2021 Discussion Thread
Re: 2021 Discussion Thread - Azerbaijan GP discussion!
Re: 2021 Discussion Thread - Azerbaijan GP discussion!
If anyone other than Pérez had won it would have been a travesty. Max crashed, he was out, they shouldn't have red-flagged it to allow him to win. They also shouldn't have restarted the race after the red flag. They should have just done what they've always done and put the safety car out, and get them to safely make their way to the finish line.
I have the feeling that many people's joy out of those last two laps was just from seeing Hamilton finish outside the points. If it were Pérez or Vettel in 15th come race end there would have been a lot more sour faces I'm sure
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Re: 2021 Discussion Thread - Azerbaijan GP discussion!
Would be interesting to know why it was handled under yellows while Max's incident needed reds.
IMHO Stroll's should have been a red flag too.
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I was surprised to see the BBC News Online report describe it as a "snorefest" before the incidents, as I still found it to be an engaging race, but the safety car and then of course the red flag and restart did ratchet up the drama. I'm glad they did go for the red flag option rather than ending it under the safety car.
I'm also glad both Verstappen and Hamilton failed to score, as obviously had it just been one or the other it would have dented this great title fight they currently have.
Amazing to think that had there been another lap or two, Vettel might have won it!
But many drivers and teams happy after a good day, and lots of drama.
There was a superb moment I really loved just before the final restart, with about a minute and a half to go on the countdown timer, when the pitlane seemed to fall silent and you got various shots of drivers and mechanics poised and ready, with an odd feeling of stillness and quiet, before the engines all then started firing into life. Loved that.
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IceG wrote:I would swear I heard a very worried-sounding Stroll say "red flag - get me out of here" while he sat in his stationary car while other cars whizzed past at 200mph. A not unreasonable request under the circumstances.
Would be interesting to know why it was handled under yellows while Max's incident needed reds.
IMHO Stroll's should have been a red flag too.
He did indeed say that, and I don't blame him for being scared of being hit by another driver whilst being stranded on the straight.
As for why that wasn't a red flag situation, we've now had Masi come out after the race and strongly indicate that the reason why those two events were treated differently was "the show".
He's confirmed that he didn't red flag the race when Stroll crashed because "in the middle of the race, there was more than enough time, and space on the right-hand side of the track when we were recovering it" - basically, the attitude was that he didn't want to stop the race with a red flag, so they used yellow flags, and then the safety car, to keep the race going.
However, in the case of Verstappen, as they wouldn't be able to clear the track in time for the race to finish without a safety car, Masi then decided that it would be "in the interests of the sport" to stop the race and then restart it so it could be completed under green flag conditions - basically, the desire to create more action by restarting the race became the overriding priority.
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mario wrote:IceG wrote:I would swear I heard a very worried-sounding Stroll say "red flag - get me out of here" while he sat in his stationary car while other cars whizzed past at 200mph. A not unreasonable request under the circumstances.
Would be interesting to know why it was handled under yellows while Max's incident needed reds.
IMHO Stroll's should have been a red flag too.
He did indeed say that, and I don't blame him for being scared of being hit by another driver whilst being stranded on the straight.
As for why that wasn't a red flag situation, we've now had Masi come out after the race and strongly indicate that the reason why those two events were treated differently was "the show".
He's confirmed that he didn't red flag the race when Stroll crashed because "in the middle of the race, there was more than enough time, and space on the right-hand side of the track when we were recovering it" - basically, the attitude was that he didn't want to stop the race with a red flag, so they used yellow flags, and then the safety car, to keep the race going.
However, in the case of Verstappen, as they wouldn't be able to clear the track in time for the race to finish without a safety car, Masi then decided that it would be "in the interests of the sport" to stop the race and then restart it so it could be completed under green flag conditions - basically, the desire to create more action by restarting the race became the overriding priority.
Do you have a link for that, mario?
EDIT: Nevermind, found it. https://www.racefans.net/2021/06/06/why-verstappens-crash-caused-a-red-flag-but-strolls-didnt/
Oh my god. So did he look at the ratings NASCAR pull these days and thought "yes, this is the future of the sport"?
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