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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Wiliams
Chassis: A
Engine choice 1: Honda RA166E Works
Engine choice 2: Ford Cosworth GBA Works
Engine choice 3: Renault EF4B Semi-Works
Tyres: Goodyear
Designer:
Bid 1: Frank Dernie (2 years)
Bid 2: John Bernard (2 years)
Bid 3 Harvey Postlewaite (2 years)
Chassis: A
Engine choice 1: Honda RA166E Works
Engine choice 2: Ford Cosworth GBA Works
Engine choice 3: Renault EF4B Semi-Works
Tyres: Goodyear
Designer:
Bid 1: Frank Dernie (2 years)
Bid 2: John Bernard (2 years)
Bid 3 Harvey Postlewaite (2 years)
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
AGS Driver Bids (sorry, me late)
---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Alain Ferté
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Corrado Fabi
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Pascal Fabre
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
[in case all of the above fails] Candidate: Philippe Streiff
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Tommy Byrne
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Nicola Larini
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Luis Pérez-Sala
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
[In case all of the above fails] Candidate: Michel Ferté
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
And now, the chassis+engine/designer bids from here, this time in time
Team: AGS
Chassis: E
Engine choice 1: Alfa Romeo 890T (customer)
Engine choice 2: we can't afford other engines
Engine choice 3: see above
Tyres: Pirelli
Designer: Jean-Claude Migeot, Gustav Brunner, Gordon Coppuck, Christian Vanderplayn (in that order of preference)
---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Alain Ferté
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Corrado Fabi
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Pascal Fabre
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
[in case all of the above fails] Candidate: Philippe Streiff
Offered Wage: £200,000 [£750,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Tommy Byrne
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Nicola Larini
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
Candidate: Luis Pérez-Sala
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
[In case all of the above fails] Candidate: Michel Ferté
Offered Wage: £150,000 [£600,000]
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses:
And now, the chassis+engine/designer bids from here, this time in time
Team: AGS
Chassis: E
Engine choice 1: Alfa Romeo 890T (customer)
Engine choice 2: we can't afford other engines
Engine choice 3: see above
Tyres: Pirelli
Designer: Jean-Claude Migeot, Gustav Brunner, Gordon Coppuck, Christian Vanderplayn (in that order of preference)
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Lotus
Chassis: A
Engine choice 1: Ford Cosworth GBA works
Engine choice 2: Honda RA166E works
Engine choice 3: Renault EF4B semi-works
Tyres: Goodyear
Designer: John Barnard (£1,000,000 per year for two years, with £50,000 bonus for each win during that time period)
Ross Brawn (£500,000 for two years)
Gustav Brunner (£500,000 for two years)
Chassis: A
Engine choice 1: Ford Cosworth GBA works
Engine choice 2: Honda RA166E works
Engine choice 3: Renault EF4B semi-works
Tyres: Goodyear
Designer: John Barnard (£1,000,000 per year for two years, with £50,000 bonus for each win during that time period)
Ross Brawn (£500,000 for two years)
Gustav Brunner (£500,000 for two years)
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Seeing as all teams except Osella have posted their bids, I shall host the RNG earlier than the deadline (I might do it today or tomorrow, I'm not quite sure). If Osella could get their bids in ASAP, that would be great.
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Sorry about missing the deadline gone too late
Team: Osella
Chassis: E
Engine choice 1: Renault EF4B customer
Engine choice 2: Motori Moderni Tipo 615-90 customer
Engine choice 3: Hart 415T customer
Tyres: Pirelli
Designer 1: Antonio Tomaini
Designer 2: Gustav Brunner
Team: Osella
Chassis: E
Engine choice 1: Renault EF4B customer
Engine choice 2: Motori Moderni Tipo 615-90 customer
Engine choice 3: Hart 415T customer
Tyres: Pirelli
Designer 1: Antonio Tomaini
Designer 2: Gustav Brunner
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Engine RNG’s
Honda RA166E works - Williams #1 choice - Lotus #2 choice
1-80 Williams
81-100 Lotus
36!
Honda RA166E customer - Minardi #1 choice - No RNG needed.
BMW M12/13 works - Brabham #1 choice - No RNG needed.
BMW M12/13 semi-works - Arrows #1 choice - Benetton #1 choice
1-55 Arrows
56-100 Benetton
64!
BMW M12/13 customer - Ligier #2 choice - No RNG needed.
TAG/Porsche TTE PO1 works - McLaren #1 choice - No RNG needed.
Ford Cosworth GBA works - Arrows #1 choice (due to Benetton getting the BMWs) - Tyrrell #1 choice - Lotus #1 choice
1-60 Lotus
61-90 Tyrrell
91-100 Arrows
45!
Ford Cosworth GBA customer - Tyrrell #1 choice (due to Lotus getting the works units) - No RNG needed.
Motori Moderni Tipo 615-90 semi-works - Haas #1 choice - No RNG needed.
Hart 415T customer - Osella #1 choice (only one they can afford) - No RNG needed.
Alfa Romeo 890T works - Arrows #1 choice (last one left) - No RNG needed.
Alfa Romeo 890T customer - AGS #1 choice - No RNG needed.
Williams get the works Honda RA166E.
Tyrrell get the customer Ford Cosworth GBA.
McLaren get the works TAG/Porsche TTE PO1.
Brabham get the works BMW M12/13.
Lotus get the works Ford Cosworth GBA.
Haas get the semi-works Motori Moderni Tipo 615-90.
Arrows get the works Alfa Romeo 890T.
Benetton get the semi-works BMW M12/13.
Osella get the customer Hart 415T.
Minardi get the customer Honda RA166E.
Ligier get the customer BMW M12/13.
AGS get the customer Alfa Romeo 890T.
Designer RNGs
John Barnard
1-60 McLaren
61-95 Lotus
96-100 Waits for Williams
18!
Harvey Postlethwaite
1-75 Ferrari
76-100 Waits for Williams
49!
Frank Dernie
No RNG needed.
Gordon Murray
No RNG needed.
Antonio Tomaini
No RNG needed.
Neil Oatley
1-70 Tyrrell
71-100 Waits For Arrows
44!
Rory Byrne
No RNG needed.
Ross Brawn
1-95 Lotus
96-100 Waits for Arrows
58!
Gustav Brunner
1-80 Arrows
81-100 Zakspeed
19!
Christian Vanderplayn
No RNG needed.
Jean-Claude Migeot
No RNG needed.
Williams sign Frank Dernie.
Tyrrell sign Neil Oatley.
McLaren sign John Barnard.
Brabham sign Gordon Murray.
Lotus sign Ross Brawn.
Zakspeed sign Christian Vanderplayn.
Haas sign Eric Broadley.
Arrows sign Gustav Brunner.
Benetton sign Rory Byrne.
Osella sign Antonio Tomaini.
Minardi sign Giacomo Caliri.
Ligier sign Michel Tétu.
Ferrari sign Harvey Postlethwaite.
AGS sign Jean-Claude Migeot.
Honda RA166E works - Williams #1 choice - Lotus #2 choice
1-80 Williams
81-100 Lotus
36!
Honda RA166E customer - Minardi #1 choice - No RNG needed.
BMW M12/13 works - Brabham #1 choice - No RNG needed.
BMW M12/13 semi-works - Arrows #1 choice - Benetton #1 choice
1-55 Arrows
56-100 Benetton
64!
BMW M12/13 customer - Ligier #2 choice - No RNG needed.
TAG/Porsche TTE PO1 works - McLaren #1 choice - No RNG needed.
Ford Cosworth GBA works - Arrows #1 choice (due to Benetton getting the BMWs) - Tyrrell #1 choice - Lotus #1 choice
1-60 Lotus
61-90 Tyrrell
91-100 Arrows
45!
Ford Cosworth GBA customer - Tyrrell #1 choice (due to Lotus getting the works units) - No RNG needed.
Motori Moderni Tipo 615-90 semi-works - Haas #1 choice - No RNG needed.
Hart 415T customer - Osella #1 choice (only one they can afford) - No RNG needed.
Alfa Romeo 890T works - Arrows #1 choice (last one left) - No RNG needed.
Alfa Romeo 890T customer - AGS #1 choice - No RNG needed.
Williams get the works Honda RA166E.
Tyrrell get the customer Ford Cosworth GBA.
McLaren get the works TAG/Porsche TTE PO1.
Brabham get the works BMW M12/13.
Lotus get the works Ford Cosworth GBA.
Haas get the semi-works Motori Moderni Tipo 615-90.
Arrows get the works Alfa Romeo 890T.
Benetton get the semi-works BMW M12/13.
Osella get the customer Hart 415T.
Minardi get the customer Honda RA166E.
Ligier get the customer BMW M12/13.
AGS get the customer Alfa Romeo 890T.
Designer RNGs
John Barnard
1-60 McLaren
61-95 Lotus
96-100 Waits for Williams
18!
Harvey Postlethwaite
1-75 Ferrari
76-100 Waits for Williams
49!
Frank Dernie
No RNG needed.
Gordon Murray
No RNG needed.
Antonio Tomaini
No RNG needed.
Neil Oatley
1-70 Tyrrell
71-100 Waits For Arrows
44!
Rory Byrne
No RNG needed.
Ross Brawn
1-95 Lotus
96-100 Waits for Arrows
58!
Gustav Brunner
1-80 Arrows
81-100 Zakspeed
19!
Christian Vanderplayn
No RNG needed.
Jean-Claude Migeot
No RNG needed.
Williams sign Frank Dernie.
Tyrrell sign Neil Oatley.
McLaren sign John Barnard.
Brabham sign Gordon Murray.
Lotus sign Ross Brawn.
Zakspeed sign Christian Vanderplayn.
Haas sign Eric Broadley.
Arrows sign Gustav Brunner.
Benetton sign Rory Byrne.
Osella sign Antonio Tomaini.
Minardi sign Giacomo Caliri.
Ligier sign Michel Tétu.
Ferrari sign Harvey Postlethwaite.
AGS sign Jean-Claude Migeot.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Time for Phase 3 of this series...
Suppliers, gearboxes, politics and developmental direction
Suppliers
An excerpt from the rulebook:
And speaking of gearboxes, let's move on to the next phase:
Gearboxes
- You can outsource your gearbox manufacturing to a third party supplier (Hewland, Weismann) or
you can manufacture your own gearbox in-house.
- Designing a gearbox works like chassis design: you buy a tier, the different areas (weight, shift time and CFP) are RNGed and the end result gets added onto your car.
- The advantage to this is that you can upgrade your gearbox throughout the season using your token allowance, to either lower the shift time, reduce the weight or make it more reliable.
- If you make your gearboxes in-house then you are responsible for carrying out repairs on it should one of your cars retire from a race with a gearbox problem. If you outsource your gearbox then the repairs will be carried out by the manufacturer without extra charge.
Politics
- There is a political element to this series, which will raise it's head at a later point in time (hint: look at the season calendar at Race 16 if you're really interested).
- For now though, all you need to do is choose to align yourself to either FISA or FOCA.
- The benefits of choosing each are as follows:
- If you choose FISA, then you get a 20% increase on FISA end-of-race and end-of-season prize money.
- If you choose FOCA, then you get a 50% increase on FOCA end-of-race and end-of-season TV money.
- In return, you are expected to vote with your organisation's standing point for all issues.
- If you do not for one-off occasions, you will have your prize money/TV money rescinded for that race.
- If you consistently vote against your affiliated organisations, your membership will be rescinded and you will not be able to rejoin the organisation until the beginning of 1988.
Use this format:
The deadline is 18:00 BST on Wednesday 6th June 2018 (if you are unavailable for whatever reason before or on that date you will be granted an extension if I am informed about it. This currently applies to pasta_maldonado)
Engine development direction (works teams only)
- This only applies to managers of teams with a works contract. At present this is:
Honda - Collieafc
BMW - SeedStriker
Ferrari - (anybody want them? )
TAG/Porsche - pasta_maldonado
Ford Cosworth - takagi_for_the_win
Zakspeed - Iso Masa
Alfa Romeo - This Could Be You
- The available directions of engine development are as follows:
- Use this format:
Suppliers, gearboxes, politics and developmental direction
Suppliers
An excerpt from the rulebook:
The Rules wrote:- There are three types of supplier: Fuel, Gearbox and Parts. Each supplier brings benefits to the team.
- Each team must sign a tyre supplier, a gearbox supplier and a fuel supplier. Parts suppliers are optional.
- The amount of contracts available for a supplier is listed.
- The price listed is paid once to secure the supplier, and once to purchase the upgrade.
- Supplier upgrades come at random times, and an RNG will be run to determine the effectiveness of the upgrade.
- If more offers than number of contracts are received, an RNG will be run.
- Pay attention to the Brand Image.
And speaking of gearboxes, let's move on to the next phase:
Gearboxes
- You can outsource your gearbox manufacturing to a third party supplier (Hewland, Weismann) or
you can manufacture your own gearbox in-house.
- Designing a gearbox works like chassis design: you buy a tier, the different areas (weight, shift time and CFP) are RNGed and the end result gets added onto your car.
- The advantage to this is that you can upgrade your gearbox throughout the season using your token allowance, to either lower the shift time, reduce the weight or make it more reliable.
- If you make your gearboxes in-house then you are responsible for carrying out repairs on it should one of your cars retire from a race with a gearbox problem. If you outsource your gearbox then the repairs will be carried out by the manufacturer without extra charge.
Politics
- There is a political element to this series, which will raise it's head at a later point in time (hint: look at the season calendar at Race 16 if you're really interested).
- For now though, all you need to do is choose to align yourself to either FISA or FOCA.
- The benefits of choosing each are as follows:
- If you choose FISA, then you get a 20% increase on FISA end-of-race and end-of-season prize money.
- If you choose FOCA, then you get a 50% increase on FOCA end-of-race and end-of-season TV money.
- In return, you are expected to vote with your organisation's standing point for all issues.
- If you do not for one-off occasions, you will have your prize money/TV money rescinded for that race.
- If you consistently vote against your affiliated organisations, your membership will be rescinded and you will not be able to rejoin the organisation until the beginning of 1988.
Use this format:
Code: Select all
Team:
User:
Fuel Supplier: (repeat as necessary)
Gearbox Supplier: (repeat as necessary)
Parts Supplier: (repeat as necessary)
Political Organisation: FISA/FOCA
The deadline is 18:00 BST on Wednesday 6th June 2018 (if you are unavailable for whatever reason before or on that date you will be granted an extension if I am informed about it. This currently applies to pasta_maldonado)
Engine development direction (works teams only)
- This only applies to managers of teams with a works contract. At present this is:
Honda - Collieafc
BMW - SeedStriker
Ferrari - (anybody want them? )
TAG/Porsche - pasta_maldonado
Ford Cosworth - takagi_for_the_win
Zakspeed - Iso Masa
Alfa Romeo - This Could Be You
- The available directions of engine development are as follows:
- Increase Horsepower
Reduce Weight
Reduce CFP
Reduce Turbo Lag
- Use this format:
Code: Select all
Engine:
Direction of development:
Last edited by Gertrand Bachot on 03 Jun 2018, 19:04, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Tyrrell
User: Bleu
Fuel Supplier #1: Shell
Fuel Supplier #2: Agip
Fuel Supplier #3: BP
Gearbox Supplier: In-house (Class B)
Parts Supplier #1: Momo
Parts Supplier #2: Brembo
Parts Supplier #3: NGK
Political Organisation: FISA
User: Bleu
Fuel Supplier #1: Shell
Fuel Supplier #2: Agip
Fuel Supplier #3: BP
Gearbox Supplier: In-house (Class B)
Parts Supplier #1: Momo
Parts Supplier #2: Brembo
Parts Supplier #3: NGK
Political Organisation: FISA
Last edited by Bleu on 03 Jun 2018, 19:09, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Bleu wrote:Do I understand correctly than in-house gearbox has cost for one unit? So if a team makes a new gearbox for each event for both drivers, it costs 1.7 million in total? I want confirmation about this before I choose whether to make in-house gearbox or use third party supplier.
Team: Tyrrell
User: Bleu
Fuel Supplier #1: Shell
Fuel Supplier #2: Agip
Fuel Supplier #3: BP
Gearbox Supplier:
Parts Supplier #1: Momo
Parts Supplier #2: Brembo
Parts Supplier #3: NGK
Political Organisation: FOCA
The way the spreadsheet has the numbers formatted is like this: "£100,000.00", which is actually £100,000. So all numbers in the gearbox section are in thousands. I've changed the number format however so there is less confusion.
The design cost is for both units (say £100,000 for a Tier A) and you then have to pay an extra £50,000 per unit to make the gearboxes (so £100,000 to make gearboxes for a 2 car team).
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Understood, edited previous post to confirm my plans.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
I've added a new section on vehicle damage here.
Note: construction costs for 1 chassis are actually £1,000,000, not £2,000,000.
Note: construction costs for 1 chassis are actually £1,000,000, not £2,000,000.
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Osella
User: Bandon23
Fuel Supplier 1: Elf
Fuel Supplier 2: Agip
Fuel Supplier 3: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier: In-house (Class E)
Parts Supplier 1: Personal
Parts Supplier 2: Koni
Parts Supplier 3: NGK
Political Organisation: FISA
User: Bandon23
Fuel Supplier 1: Elf
Fuel Supplier 2: Agip
Fuel Supplier 3: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier: In-house (Class E)
Parts Supplier 1: Personal
Parts Supplier 2: Koni
Parts Supplier 3: NGK
Political Organisation: FISA
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
So we have outdated chassis, gutless engine, that has a habit of blowing up ever so often, twat designer and mountain of debt before the season has even started... #EverythingIsFine...
Team: Zakspeed
User: Iso Masa
Fuel Supplier:
Bid 1: Agip
Bid 2: BP
Bid 3: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier:
Bid 1: Wiesmann
Bid 2: Hewland
Parts Supplier:
Bid 1: Momo
Bid 2: Koni
Bid 3: ATS
Political Organisation: FOCA
Engine: Zakspeed
Direction of development: Increase Horse POWAHHHH!!!!
Team: Zakspeed
User: Iso Masa
Fuel Supplier:
Bid 1: Agip
Bid 2: BP
Bid 3: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier:
Bid 1: Wiesmann
Bid 2: Hewland
Parts Supplier:
Bid 1: Momo
Bid 2: Koni
Bid 3: ATS
Political Organisation: FOCA
Engine: Zakspeed
Direction of development: Increase Horse POWAHHHH!!!!
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Arrows
User: This Could Be You
Fuel Supplier #1: BP
Fuel Supplier #2: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier: Arrows (Tier A) (our gearboxes will also be available for sale at the low, low price of £80k per unit, or £160k for a two car team)
Parts Supplier #1: Momo
Parts Supplier #2: Bilstein
Parts Supplier #3: Koni
Political Organisation: FOCA
Surprisingly enough, Arrows will set the development direction of our Alfa Romeo engine/grenade towards improving reliability
User: This Could Be You
Fuel Supplier #1: BP
Fuel Supplier #2: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier: Arrows (Tier A) (our gearboxes will also be available for sale at the low, low price of £80k per unit, or £160k for a two car team)
Parts Supplier #1: Momo
Parts Supplier #2: Bilstein
Parts Supplier #3: Koni
Political Organisation: FOCA
Surprisingly enough, Arrows will set the development direction of our Alfa Romeo engine/grenade towards improving reliability
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Benetton
User: Dexter249
Fuel Supplier: BMW Wintershall (repeat as necessary)
Gearbox Supplier: Hewland (repeat as necessary)
Parts Supplier #1 : Brembo (repeat as necessary)
Parts Supplier #2 : Personal
Parts Supplier #3 : BBS
Political Organisation: FOCA
User: Dexter249
Fuel Supplier: BMW Wintershall (repeat as necessary)
Gearbox Supplier: Hewland (repeat as necessary)
Parts Supplier #1 : Brembo (repeat as necessary)
Parts Supplier #2 : Personal
Parts Supplier #3 : BBS
Political Organisation: FOCA
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Williams
User: Collieafc
Fuel Supplier:
Bid 1: Mobil
Bid 2: BP
Bid 3: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier:
Bid 1: Hewland
Parts Supplier:
Bid 1: Momo
Bid 2: Koni
Bid 3: Bilstein
Political Organisation: FISA
Engine: Honda RA166E 1.5 V6t
Engine Development direction: Increase Horsepower
User: Collieafc
Fuel Supplier:
Bid 1: Mobil
Bid 2: BP
Bid 3: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier:
Bid 1: Hewland
Parts Supplier:
Bid 1: Momo
Bid 2: Koni
Bid 3: Bilstein
Political Organisation: FISA
Engine: Honda RA166E 1.5 V6t
Engine Development direction: Increase Horsepower
Last edited by Collieafc on 06 Jun 2018, 11:55, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Brabham
User: SeedStriker
Fuel Supplier: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier: Weismann, In-House Class A
Parts Supplier: Momo, Koni, Champion
Political Organisation: FOCA
Engine: BMW M12/13 1.5 L4t
Direction of development: Reduce CFP
User: SeedStriker
Fuel Supplier: Castrol
Gearbox Supplier: Weismann, In-House Class A
Parts Supplier: Momo, Koni, Champion
Political Organisation: FOCA
Engine: BMW M12/13 1.5 L4t
Direction of development: Reduce CFP
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: Lotus
User: Colin Chapman
Fuel Supplier: Shell, Castrol, Mobil
Gearbox Supplier: Weismann, Hewland
Parts Supplier: Momo, Magnetti Marelli, Bilstein
Political Organisation: FISA
Engine: Ford Cosworth
Direction of development: Increase horsepower
User: Colin Chapman
Fuel Supplier: Shell, Castrol, Mobil
Gearbox Supplier: Weismann, Hewland
Parts Supplier: Momo, Magnetti Marelli, Bilstein
Political Organisation: FISA
Engine: Ford Cosworth
Direction of development: Increase horsepower
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Team: McLaren
User: Pasta
Fuel Supplier #1: BP
Fuel Supplier #2: Shell
Fuel Supplier #3: Agip
Gearbox Supplier: In-house (Class A)
Parts Supplier #1: Momo
Parts Supplier #2: Brembo
Parts Supplier #3: NGK
Political Organisation: FOCA
Engine: TAG-Porsche
Direction of development: Increase horsepower
User: Pasta
Fuel Supplier #1: BP
Fuel Supplier #2: Shell
Fuel Supplier #3: Agip
Gearbox Supplier: In-house (Class A)
Parts Supplier #1: Momo
Parts Supplier #2: Brembo
Parts Supplier #3: NGK
Political Organisation: FOCA
Engine: TAG-Porsche
Direction of development: Increase horsepower
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Right, after forgetting my own deadline , it's time to reveal which suppliers will supply which teams:
Fuel
Shell: Lotus, Tyrrell
Agip: Ferrari, Minardi, Osella
Elf: AGS*, Ligier, Zakspeed
Mobil: Williams
Castrol: Brabham, Haas
BP: McLaren, Arrows
BMW Wintershall: Benetton
Gearboxes
Weismann: Brabham
Parts
Brembo: Benetton
Personal: Osella
Momo: Zakspeed
Bilstein: Arrows
BBS: AGS*
NGK: McLaren
Koni: Williams
Champion: Brabham
Magneti Marelli: Lotus
ATS: Tyrrell**
*AGS were given these suppliers due to them not supplying bids.
** Tyrrell were given ATS as their parts supplier due to them failing to get all three of their chosen bids.
Right, now with the pre-season phase over, it's soon time to go to Brazil and begin the 1986 season!
Fuel
Shell: Lotus, Tyrrell
Agip: Ferrari, Minardi, Osella
Elf: AGS*, Ligier, Zakspeed
Mobil: Williams
Castrol: Brabham, Haas
BP: McLaren, Arrows
BMW Wintershall: Benetton
Gearboxes
Weismann: Brabham
Parts
Brembo: Benetton
Personal: Osella
Momo: Zakspeed
Bilstein: Arrows
BBS: AGS*
NGK: McLaren
Koni: Williams
Champion: Brabham
Magneti Marelli: Lotus
ATS: Tyrrell**
*AGS were given these suppliers due to them not supplying bids.
** Tyrrell were given ATS as their parts supplier due to them failing to get all three of their chosen bids.
Right, now with the pre-season phase over, it's soon time to go to Brazil and begin the 1986 season!
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Grande Prémio do Brasil
Qualifying
Race
The race... was red-flagged due to a high number of accidents, although mercifully only 3 accidents had damage. Special mention goes to Nigel Mansell who was dominating the race from pole until he had a suspension problem which caused him to retire.
The results of those who finished are as follows:
Elio De Angelis - 1st - 4.5
Philippe Alliot - 2nd - 3
Christian Danner - 3rd - 2
Ayrton Senna - 4th - 1.5
Keke Rosberg - 5th - 1
Nelson Piquet - 6th - 0.5
Thierry Boutsen - 7th
Danny Sullivan - 8th
Ivan Capelli - 9th
Riccardo Patrese - 10th
Everybody else retired.
Damage Report
Mike Thackwell (Tyrrell 015/2): £600,000
Andrea De Cesaris (Minardi M186/1): £280,000
Keke Rosberg (Arrows A9/1): £610,000
Repairs must be done by 18:00 BST on Tuesday 12th June.
You may start to spend your development tokens (the more you spend the bigger the improvement will be) on the following areas:
Design of new car
At any point before the first race of the next season, you may begin developing your new car. Once the first race of the next season begins, this new car becomes your current car, and the cycle repeats. Utilise this development token opportunity continuously to improve the final quality of your new car; the more times you do it, the better you car for next year will be. For next year's car, you need not mention, nor cannot focus on, specific areas - it is a randomised process.
Development of current car
You may choose an area of focus for testing and development of your current car, which will result in an appropriate improvement. Possible directions of current car development:
Engine Development
You may only do this if you are a works or semi-works team. You also have an allotted amount of tokens for development, which you may spend on developing your engine in the specified developmental direction you specified before the first race. Works teams may change the developmental direction of the engine when they please; semi-works teams have no say.
Race
The race... was red-flagged due to a high number of accidents, although mercifully only 3 accidents had damage. Special mention goes to Nigel Mansell who was dominating the race from pole until he had a suspension problem which caused him to retire.
The results of those who finished are as follows:
Elio De Angelis - 1st - 4.5
Philippe Alliot - 2nd - 3
Christian Danner - 3rd - 2
Ayrton Senna - 4th - 1.5
Keke Rosberg - 5th - 1
Nelson Piquet - 6th - 0.5
Thierry Boutsen - 7th
Danny Sullivan - 8th
Ivan Capelli - 9th
Riccardo Patrese - 10th
Everybody else retired.
Damage Report
Mike Thackwell (Tyrrell 015/2): £600,000
Andrea De Cesaris (Minardi M186/1): £280,000
Keke Rosberg (Arrows A9/1): £610,000
Repairs must be done by 18:00 BST on Tuesday 12th June.
You may start to spend your development tokens (the more you spend the bigger the improvement will be) on the following areas:
Design of new car
At any point before the first race of the next season, you may begin developing your new car. Once the first race of the next season begins, this new car becomes your current car, and the cycle repeats. Utilise this development token opportunity continuously to improve the final quality of your new car; the more times you do it, the better you car for next year will be. For next year's car, you need not mention, nor cannot focus on, specific areas - it is a randomised process.
Development of current car
You may choose an area of focus for testing and development of your current car, which will result in an appropriate improvement. Possible directions of current car development:
- Increase downforce
Reduce drag
Increase mechanical grip
Improve Handling
Reduce weight
Increase reliability
Engine Development
You may only do this if you are a works or semi-works team. You also have an allotted amount of tokens for development, which you may spend on developing your engine in the specified developmental direction you specified before the first race. Works teams may change the developmental direction of the engine when they please; semi-works teams have no say.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
As of now, Thackwell takes chassis 1 or 3 (the one which isn't used by Palmer at the moment), 2 will be a spare car.
(btw, the Team Assets sheet has three chassis and two everything else so it shows McLaren using Hart and Ferrari engines etc.)
(btw, the Team Assets sheet has three chassis and two everything else so it shows McLaren using Hart and Ferrari engines etc.)
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Bleu wrote:As of now, Thackwell takes chassis 1 or 3 (the one which isn't used by Palmer at the moment), 2 will be a spare car.
(btw, the Team Assets sheet has three chassis and two everything else so it shows McLaren using Hart and Ferrari engines etc.)
The chassis and engine lists aren't laid out together, because the design tiers included the cost for a spare car, and the engine contract does not, so the chassis, engine and gearbox lists are all separate from one another.
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Double finish!! (Could have been points finish, if the race hadn't been flagged...)
Well, in order to keep (slightly) ahead of the rest, Zakspeed would like to spend 2 engine tokens...
Well, in order to keep (slightly) ahead of the rest, Zakspeed would like to spend 2 engine tokens...
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Iso Masa wrote:Well, in order to keep (slightly) ahead of the rest, Zakspeed would like to spend 2 engine tokens...
Zakspeed engine upgrades
Engine Development Token 1 (max upgrade 10BHP): 5BHP, £500,000
Engine Development Token 2 (max upgrade 11BHP): 6BHP, £600,000
Overall upgrade: 11BHP extra power
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Autosport wrote:Track surface found to be in shocking condition
A post-race inspection of the track surface at the Jacarepagua Circuit following the chaotic Brazilian Grand Prix, which was red-flagged due to the number of accidents at the 'Box' corner, showed that the track surface there was 'literally in pieces'. Several drivers had complained to FISA on Friday, but Jean-Marie Balestre had dismissed these claims, and FOCA boss Bernie Ecclestone was unwilling to have to send the crowd of 70,000 home fans away and incur the huge revenue losses that would have happened. Instead the race went on and was an utter farce, with constant crashing, until the organizers had had enough and called the red flag. Whilst some, such as Zakspeed boss Erich Zakowski, were benefiting hugely from this chaos, the majority of teams were being affected by the poor track surface, and the backlash has been huge, with F1 receiving large negative publicity and is expected to incur large revenue losses for the foreseeable future, and with the very future of the Brazilian Grand Prix in doubt, Formula One is gripped in a crisis to come.
Effect: 50% reduction in FOCA TV money for the rest of the season, 20% reduction for the end of season TV money and for the whole of 1987, 10% reduction in 1987 end of season TV money.
60% reduction for the Brazilian Grand Prix in 1987, a 40% reduction for the 1988 event, and a 20% reduction for the 1989 event.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Brabham will expend one token on mechanical grip, one for reducing weight, and one for the engine CFP improvement
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
SeedStriker wrote:Brabham will expend one token on mechanical grip, one for reducing weight, and one for the engine CFP improvement
Brabham BT55 Chassis Upgrades
Mechanical Grip Token: (max possible +100 Grip) +25 Grip, £500,000
Reduce Weight Token: (max possible -10kg) -6kg, £600,000
BMW Engine Upgrades
Engine Development Token 1: (max possible -500 CFP) -74 CFP, £500,000
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Williams would like to invest 2 tokens into next years car
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Osella will use one token for handling improvement, one token for mechanical grip.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Collieafc wrote:Williams would like to invest 2 tokens into next years car
Williams 1987 chassis development
Drag: -1 Drag for 1987 car - £500,000
Downforce: (max 200 DF) +77 Downforce for 1987 car - £600,000
Bandon23 wrote:Osella will use one token for handling improvement, one token for mechanical grip.
Osella Chassis development
Improve Handling: (max -3 Handling) -1 Handling - £500,000
Increase Mechanical Grip: (Max +100 Grip) +17 Grip - £600,000
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Benetton will develop next year's car, 2 tokens.
FIAT Group, finding loopholes in the FIA rulebook since it's inception.
Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Two development tokens: One to reduce weight and one to increase grip.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Arrows will repair Rosberg's chassis, and spend two development tokens, one on improving Handling, and the other on developing our Alfa engine (as I am convinced it will blow up on us in it's current state)
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Dexter249 wrote:Benetton will develop next year's car, 2 tokens.
Benetton 1987 chassis development
Mechanical Grip: (max +100 Grip) +7 Grip for 1987 car - £500,000
Handling: -1 Handling for 1987 car - £600,000
Bleu wrote:Two development tokens: One to reduce weight and one to increase grip.
Tyrrell Chassis Development
Reduce Weight: (max -10kg) -9kg - £500,000
Increase Mechanical Grip: (max +100 Grip) +13 Grip - £600,000
This Could Be You wrote:Arrows will repair Rosberg's chassis, and spend two development tokens, one on improving Handling, and the other on developing our Alfa engine (as I am convinced it will blow up on us in it's current state)
Arrows Chassis Development
Improve Handling: -1 Handling - £500,000
Alfa Romeo Engine Development
Engine Development Token 1: (max upgrade -500 CFP) -414 CFP - £500,000
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Just a quick thing: works and semi-works teams can sell their engine upgrades to semi-works and customer teams with the same engines for a price of their choosing (as long as it is FAIR).
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
McLaren will spend two tokens on next year's car, as well as two tokens on reducing weight. TAG/Porsche will also spend three tokens on engine upgrades.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
Lotus will plonk a token on next year's car, as well as token on reducing weight.
Cosworth will throw two tokens into finding more power from the engine.
Cosworth will throw two tokens into finding more power from the engine.
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Re: Formula One 1986 - The Year Of Power - Chassis+Engine/De
pasta_maldonado wrote:McLaren will spend two tokens on next year's car, as well as two tokens on reducing weight. TAG/Porsche will also spend three tokens on engine upgrades.
McLaren Chassis Development
Reducing Weight 1: (max upgrade -10kg) -8kg - £500,000
Reducing Weight 2: (max upgrade -10kg) -2kg - £600,000
McLaren 1987 Chassis Development
Increase Reliability: (max 500 CFP) -117 CFP for 1987 car - £720,000
Reduce Weight: (max -10kg) -10kg for 1987 car - £864,000
TAG/Porsche Engine Development
Engine Development Token 1: (max upgrade +10BHP) +1BHP - £500,000
Engine Development Token 2: (max upgrade +10BHP) +9BHP - £600,000
Engine Development Token 3: (max upgrade +10BHP) +3BHP - £720,000
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Lotus will plonk a token on next year's car, as well as token on reducing weight.
Cosworth will throw two tokens into finding more power from the engine.
Lotus Chassis Development
Reduce Weight: (max upgrade -10kg) -7kg - £500,000
Lotus 1987 Chassis Development
Increase Mechanical Grip: (max +100 Grip) +7 Grip for 1987 car - £600,000
Ford Cosworth Engine Development
Engine Development Token 1: (max upgrade +10BHP) +1BHP - £500,000
Engine Development Token 2: (max upgrade +10BHP) +5BHP - £600,000