Alt-1957: Post-season auction!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 05 Mar 2017, 20:39

DemocalypseNow wrote:
kevinbotz wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:Speaking of loan deals - Ecurie Ecosse already has a loan deal in principle agreed with B.C.M.A for the British and Irish GPs, but we would like to know if we could loan two packages, rather than just the one, for both races, so that Ivor Bueb and Ninian Sanderson can be fielded in both races, rather than having to alternate.

Unfortunately not; we presently only have the one readily available package at the moment.

This indicates then you are planning to rent out the old spec cars, rather than 1957 spec ones. I will take 2x chassis and 1x engine, and attempt to get the other engine required to make a set from Lotus, who have three units on their books.

Team Lotus is more than happy to loan an engine to Ecurie Ecosse to make the complete set

Post by **kevinbotz** » 05 Mar 2017, 21:47

DemocalypseNow wrote:
kevinbotz wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:Speaking of loan deals - Ecurie Ecosse already has a loan deal in principle agreed with B.C.M.A for the British and Irish GPs, but we would like to know if we could loan two packages, rather than just the one, for both races, so that Ivor Bueb and Ninian Sanderson can be fielded in both races, rather than having to alternate.

Unfortunately not; we presently only have the one readily available package at the moment.

This indicates then you are planning to rent out the old spec cars, rather than 1957 spec ones. I will take 2x chassis and 1x engine, and attempt to get the other engine required to make a set from Lotus, who have three units on their books.

That'd be fine. B.C.M.A. will thus additionally loan C-01 chassis 4 to Ecurie Ecosse for the specified races.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 05 Mar 2017, 23:58

DemocalypseNow wrote:
Aislabie wrote:
peteroli34 wrote:If anyone wants to lease any cars from us fell free to get in touch.

Would you be able to provide equipment for Bekaert in the British & Irish Grands Prix? He's a budgetless privateer

Given Ecurie Voeckler have an existing deal in place to rent the 4th Gordini at Silverstone, unless they build another one they won't be able to loan one out.

However, Ferrari have plenty of spare equipment, namely the 1956 factory-spec cars, to loan out. Bekaert could field a team-mate if he so desired, we have enough spare capacity.

Speaking of loan deals - Ecurie Ecosse already has a loan deal in principle agreed with B.C.M.A for the British and Irish GPs, but we would like to know if we could loan two packages, rather than just the one, for both races, so that Ivor Bueb and Ninian Sanderson can be fielded in both races, rather than having to alternate.

This would be ideal for Bekaert. If you're interested in providing a second car, Roy Bloxam was Bekaert's long-standing team-mate at HWM.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 06 Mar 2017, 00:25

Aislabie wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:However, Ferrari have plenty of spare equipment, namely the 1956 factory-spec cars, to loan out. Bekaert could field a team-mate if he so desired, we have enough spare capacity.

This would be ideal for Bekaert. If you're interested in providing a second car, Roy Bloxam was Bekaert's long-standing team-mate at HWM.

Deal. Two 1956 factory-spec Ferraris to Bekaert for the British and Irish GPs have been set aside. Your equipment allocations with which you can enter when their respective entry lists open are;

Ferrari R560 chassis 1 & 5
Ferrari RS560 engines 1 & 2

Gonzalez · Post by **Gonzalez** » 06 Mar 2017, 22:36

Following poor performances that saw Luigi Musso failing to qualify for any of them in the last couple of races, Connaught will be seeking in British Driver Les Leston to replace Musso from the Irish GP onwards.

If the RNG allows him, Musso will be transferred to Centro Sud. (As agreed with Pasta)

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Mar 2017, 23:56

Arie van Ramshorst is looking to rent some machinery from any manufacturer to compete in the Dutch Grand Prix as a privateer.

Jean Lucas again approaches Gordini, looking to rent their Alfa Romeo AR161-Balkan Lion combination.

J. M. Swaap also approaches Gordini, looking to rent their Guidobaldi-Loonmotor combination.

Scuderia Ugolini will loan Bentley Speed 4 chassis 11 to Loonmotor for the Dutch Grand Prix.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 07 Mar 2017, 00:18

pasta_maldonado wrote:Arie van Ramshorst is looking to rent some machinery from any manufacturer to compete in the Dutch Grand Prix as a privateer.

Jean Lucas again approaches Gordini, looking to rent their Alfa Romeo AR161-Balkan Lion combination.

J. M. Swaap also approaches Gordini, looking to rent their Guidobaldi-Loonmotor combination.

Gordini will loan the following for the Dutch GP
Jean Lucas - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 8 - O.S.C.A. F154 chassis 4
JM Swaap - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 5 - Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 3

we would also be willing to loan Arie van Ramshorst. Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 2 - Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 2

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Mar 2017, 00:22

peteroli34 wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Arie van Ramshorst is looking to rent some machinery from any manufacturer to compete in the Dutch Grand Prix as a privateer.

Jean Lucas again approaches Gordini, looking to rent their Alfa Romeo AR161-Balkan Lion combination.

J. M. Swaap also approaches Gordini, looking to rent their Guidobaldi-Loonmotor combination.

Gordini will loan the following for the Dutch GP
Jean Lucas - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 8 - O.S.C.A. F154 chassis 4
JM Swaap - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 5 - Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 3

we would also be willing to loan Arie van Ramshorst. Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 2 - Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 2

All three drivers accept their offers.

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 07 Mar 2017, 01:25

BRM is willing to loan any of their chassis to privateers this weekend for a small fee

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 07 Mar 2017, 01:40

DemocalypseNow wrote:
Aislabie wrote:
DemocalypseNow wrote:However, Ferrari have plenty of spare equipment, namely the 1956 factory-spec cars, to loan out. Bekaert could field a team-mate if he so desired, we have enough spare capacity.

This would be ideal for Bekaert. If you're interested in providing a second car, Roy Bloxam was Bekaert's long-standing team-mate at HWM.

Deal. Two 1956 factory-spec Ferraris to Bekaert for the British and Irish GPs have been set aside. Your equipment allocations with which you can enter when their respective entry lists open are;
Ferrari R560 chassis 1 & 5
Ferrari RS560 engines 1 & 2

That's excellent, thank you.

Might it also be possible to borrow one for the Dutch Grand Prix so that Rob Slotemaker can enter the race under a "Slotemakers Slipschool" banner? I know I'm taking the piss a little, but it's fun finding obscure drivers and thrusting them into Grands Prix.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Mar 2017, 01:44

Aislabie wrote: Rob Slotemaker can enter the race under a "Slotemakers Slipschool" banner? I know I'm taking the piss a little, but it's fun finding obscure drivers and thrusting them into Grands Prix.

Rob Slotemaker is currently under contract to the genius that is Jonkheer
Gijsbert van Loon.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 07 Mar 2017, 02:02

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Aislabie wrote: Rob Slotemaker can enter the race under a "Slotemakers Slipschool" banner? I know I'm taking the piss a little, but it's fun finding obscure drivers and thrusting them into Grands Prix.

Rob Slotemaker is currently under contract to the genius that is Jonkheer
Gijsbert van Loon.

I see. Will the aforementioned genius be entering his charge into the Dutch Grand Prix?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Mar 2017, 08:37

Aislabie wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:
Aislabie wrote: Rob Slotemaker can enter the race under a "Slotemakers Slipschool" banner? I know I'm taking the piss a little, but it's fun finding obscure drivers and thrusting them into Grands Prix.

Rob Slotemaker is currently under contract to the genius that is Jonkheer
Gijsbert van Loon.

I see. Will the aforementioned genius be entering his charge into the Dutch Grand Prix?

He indeed will be.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 07 Mar 2017, 10:22

pasta_maldonado wrote:He indeed will be.

Excellent

Post by **tommykl** » 07 Mar 2017, 19:23

VI Grote Prijs van Nederland - entry list
1. Duncan Hamilton (Vandervell Products Ltd.) - Vanwall VW57 chassis 1, Vanwall VE2 engine 1
2. Berardo Taraschi (Automobiles Deutsch & Bonnet) - DB 01 chassis 1, DB 84-1 engine 1
3. Umberto Maglioli (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 801 chassis 3, Ferrari DS50 engine 2
4. Consalvo Sanesi (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 801 chassis 4, Ferrari DS50 engine 3
5. Giulio Cabianca (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 801 chassis 1, Ferrari DS50 engine 1
6. Tony Gaze (Scuderia Ferrari) - Ferrari 801 chassis 2, Ferrari DS50 engine 4
7. André Simon (Écurie Voeckler) - Gordini Type 56 chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2
8. Stirling Moss (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 5, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 4
9. Juan Manuel Fangio (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 5
10. José Froilán González (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 7, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 6
11. Ottorino Volonterio (O.S.C.A.) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 8, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 7
12. André Guelfi (Ecurie Maghreb) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 11, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 11
13. Hans Herrmann (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 12
14. Masten Gregory (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3
15. Luigi Musso (Scuderia Ugolini) - B.C.M.A. C-01 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 9
16. Rob Slotemaker (Jonkheer Gijsbert van Loon) - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 1, Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 1
17. Jean Behra (Jonkheer Gijsbert van Loon) - Bentley Speed 4 chassis 11, Vanwall 254 engine 2
18. Mathieu Hezemans (Jonkheer Gijsbert van Loon) - Guidbaldi FG01 chassis 3, Mercedes-Benz UM153 engine 10
19. Henk van Zalinge (Tulpen en Windmolens) - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 2, Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 2
20. Jean Lucas (Jean Lucas) - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 8, O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 4
21. Hans Davids (Loonmotor van Holland) - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 5, Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 3
22. Archie Scott Brown (Norfolk Engineering) - Vanwall VW56 chassis 6, Vanwall VE2 engine 3
23. Jim Russell (Norfolk Engineering) - Vanwall VW56 chassis 5, Vanwall VE2 engine 4
24. Robert Manzon (Alexander Racing Team-Gordini) Gordini Type 56 chassis 1, Gordini G258/A engine 5
25. Jo Bonnier (Alexander Racing Team-Gordini) Gordini Type 56 chassis 2, Gordini G258/A engine 1
26. Harry Schell (Alexander Racing Team-Gordini) Gordini Type 56 chassis 4, Gordini G258/A engine 3
27. Boris Dienerstein (Volga Testa Russo) - Volga NK1 chassis 1, Volga GZ1 engine 1
28. Mikhail Metelev (Volga Testa Russo) - Volga NK1 chassis 4, Volga GZ1 engine 4
29. Gerino Gerini (Officine Alfieri Maserati) - Cooper T41 chassis 2, Maserati 56A engine 2
30. Carel Godin de Beaufort (Ecurie Maarsbergen) - Ferrari R560 chassis 1, Ferrari RS560 engine 1
31. Maria Teresa de Filippis (Reg Parnell Racing) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 17, Maserati 56A engine 1
32. B. Bira (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 10 chassis 6, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 1
33. Maurice Trintignant (Rob Walker Racing) - Lotus 10 chassis 7, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 2
34. Peter Collins (B.C.M.A.) - B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 1, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 1
35. Jack Brabham (B.C.M.A.) - B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 2, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
36. Mike Hawthorn (B.C.M.A.) - B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 3
37. Lucien Bianchi (Scuderia Adriatica) - Lancia D50 chassis 1, Lancia DS50 engine 3
38. Giorgio Scarlatti (Scuderia Adriatica) - Lancia D50 chassis 2, Lancia DS50 engine 4
39. Jack Fairman (Owen Racing Organisation) - OSCA F156A chassis 13, BRM P26 engine 3
40. Alan Stacey (Owen Racing Organisation) - OSCA F156A chassis 10, BRM P26 engine 4
41. Heinz Melkus (MSG Köthen) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 9, O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 8
42. Horace Gould (Connaught Engineering) - Connaught Type B chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 9
43. Stuart Lewis-Evans (Connaught Engineering) - Connaught Type B chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 10

You have until Sunday March 12th at noon CET.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 07 Mar 2017, 19:25

Tony Vandervell & co. will be around with their usual stuff.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 07 Mar 2017, 19:29

Same entries as usual for DB.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Mar 2017, 19:49

Entries for Zandvoort;

Scuderia Ferrari
Umberto Maglioli - Ferrari 801 chassis 3, DS50 engine 2
Consalvo Sanesi - Ferrari 801 chassis 4, DS50 engine 3
Giulio Cabianca - Ferrari 801 chassis 1, DS50 engine 1
Tony Gaze - Ferrari 801 chassis 2, DS50 engine 4

Ecurie Voeckler
Andre Simon - Gordini Type 56 chassis 3, Gordini G258/A engine 2

Ferrari R560 chassis 1 & Ferrari RS560 engine 1 will be leased to Carel Godin de Beaufort for this event. More 1956 Ferrari packages are available for lease for this event on request for any interested team.

I'd also like to formally ratify some intended signings for later in the season, just to get them sorted out in advance. Ecurie Ecosse intends to sign both Ivor Bueb and Ninian Sanderson to race their loaned B.C.M.A.s at the British and Irish GPs. Ferrari intends to sign Tony Bettenhausen and Phil Hill for the season-ending US GP.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 07 Mar 2017, 20:08

The four usual entries for O.S.C.A.

CaptainGetz12 · Post by **CaptainGetz12** » 07 Mar 2017, 20:27

Ecurie Maghreb will enter the Dutch GP with Andre Guelfi. We should know the drill by now:

Chassis: O.S.C.A. F156 Chassis 11
Engine: O.S.C.A. 1557 Engine 11

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Mar 2017, 20:43

Entries for the Netherlands:

Scuderia Centro-Sud
Hans Herrmann (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 12
Masten Gregory (Scuderia Centro Sud) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3

SCS will transfer Luigi Musso's contract to Scuderia Ugolini.

Scuderia Ugolini
Luigi Musso (Scuderia Ugolini) - B.C.M.A. C-01 chassis 3, B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 9
Jean Behra (Scuderia Ugolini) - Bentley Speed 4 chassis 11, Vanwall 254 engine 2 (loaned from Vanwall)

Jonkheer Gijsbert Van Loon
Rob Slotemaker (Jonkheer Gijsbert van Loon) - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 1, Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 1
Mathieur Hezemans (Jonkheer Gijsbert van Loon) - Guidbaldi FGO1 chassis 3, Mercedes-Benz UM153 engine 10

Privateers
Henk van Zalinge (Tulpen en Windmolens) - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 2, Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 2 (both loaned from Gordini)
Jean Lucas (Jean Lucas) - Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 8 (loaned from Gordini), O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 4 (loaned from O.S.C.A.)
Hans Davids (Loonmotor van Holland) - Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 5, Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 3 (both loaned from Gordini)

Post by **Nuppiz** » 07 Mar 2017, 20:58

Vanwall will borrow Vanwall 254 engine 2 to Loonmotor, with Mr. van Loon responsible for any transport expenses.

Bandon23 · Post by **Bandon23** » 07 Mar 2017, 22:25

Norfolk Engineering will enter Dutch GP with the same lineup in previous race.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 07 Mar 2017, 22:47

Gordini Type 56 chassis 1 - Gordini G258/A engine 5 - Robert Manzon
Gordini Type 56 chassis 2 - Gordini G258/A engine 1 - Jo Bonnier
Gordini Type 56 chassis 4 - Gordini G258/A engine 3 - Harry Schell

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 07 Mar 2017, 23:36

After embarrassing the Motherland at Spa-Francorchamps, many of Volga's drivers have been sent home in disgrace. It remains to be seen how often we will encounter some of the slower drivers in the future.

However, Boris Dienerstein and Mikhail Metelev will be remaining in the Low Countries to take part in the Dutch Grand Prix, using the same chassis and engines as previously.

Also, given that we both are state-run operations, it might make some sense for Wizzie and I to pool resources in some way

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 08 Mar 2017, 02:30

Officine Alfieri Maserati races Gerino Gerini with a Cooper T41 (chassis 3) with Maserati 56A engine 2

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 08 Mar 2017, 13:42

Guess i'll confim Ecurie Maarsbergen/Carel Godin De Beaufort entry with whatever car Ferrari is willing to give.

Reg Parnell racing will enter De Felippis with O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 17 + Maserati 56A engine 1

We use the Maserati because Climax still hasn't told me yet wether they stand for the repair bills of their engines or not.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 08 Mar 2017, 13:55

This wrote:Guess i'll confim Ecurie Maarsbergen/Carel Godin De Beaufort entry with whatever car Ferrari is willing to give.

DemocalypseNow wrote:Ferrari R560 chassis 1 & Ferrari RS560 engine 1 will be leased to Carel Godin de Beaufort for this event. More 1956 Ferrari packages are available for lease for this event on request for any interested team.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 08 Mar 2017, 15:44

Hernandez will buy 14 BRM calendars, if possible.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Mar 2017, 21:40

Rob Walker Racing will enter with their two usual combinations, and we will repair the damaged engine.

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 08 Mar 2017, 22:30

Normal32 wrote:Hernandez will buy 14 BRM calendars, if possible.

BRM would be happy to supply you with calendars

Post by **kevinbotz** » 09 Mar 2017, 03:16

B.C.M.A. will submit its usual entries.

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 09 Mar 2017, 08:37

Lucien Bianchi (Scuderia Adriatica) - Lancia D50 chassis 1, Lancia DS50 engine 3
Giorgio Scarlatti (Scuderia Adriatica) - Lancia D50 chassis 2, Lancia DS50 engine 4

Post by **Ataxia** » 09 Mar 2017, 10:45

Owen Entries:

Jack Fairman - OSCA F156A chassis 13, BRM P26 engine 3
Alan Stacey - OSCA F156A chassis 10, BRM P26 engine 4

Rated · Post by **Rated** » 11 Mar 2017, 08:38

MSG Köthen's entry for the Dutch GP

Heinz Melkus - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 9 - O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 8

Gonzalez · Post by **Gonzalez** » 11 Mar 2017, 17:46

Despite being doubtfully scared over the small grid size, Connaught will attempt to enter the fiollowing entries:

Les Leston*: Connaught Type B chassis 1, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 9
Staurt Lewis Evans: Connaught Type B chassis 2, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 10

*RNG Pending

And Yes, Connaught will ask Leston to take over Musso's car from this round onwards.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 12 Mar 2017, 13:30

Onofre Marimón (Asso di Fiori) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 14, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 8

Gonzalez · Post by **Gonzalez** » 12 Mar 2017, 14:47

RonDenisDeletraz wrote:Onofre Marimón (Asso di Fiori) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 14, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 8

I think you were a little bit too late there, but whatever way, I doubt that would even happen since Tommykl is taking a small vacation off the forums.

Post by **tommykl** » 12 Mar 2017, 21:42

Gonzalez wrote:
RonDenisDeletraz wrote:Onofre Marimón (Asso di Fiori) - O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 14, O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 8

I think you were a little bit too late there, but whatever way, I doubt that would even happen since Tommykl is taking a small vacation off the forums.

I'm not taking a vacation, I'm simply restricting my activities. This doesn't make any deadlines void, though

RDD, I'm afraid your entry was too late.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 13 Mar 2017, 02:23

Bugger, sorry about that.

What track should be tenth in the 1958 season?