The 2016 US Grand Prix presented by...sorry, wrong series

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Oct 2016, 15:03

Race Notes

- Lawrence Stroll has "confirmed" that offspring Lance will be in an F1 seat next season. Williams are believed to be waiting for Lance to turn 18 in order to make the announcement, due to Martini's sponsorship. The deal has been described as "shaken, but not yet stirred".

- Haas have decided to wait a few more rounds before confirming Esteban Gutierrez's position in the team, presumably waiting on the result of the US presidential elections.

- With Hulkenberg's move to Renault, there will be tons of predictions about the state of the midfield next season. Watch and wait as Ocon moves to Renault, Wehrlein moves to Force India, and Manor sign "Los Pollos Hermanos" Antonio Giovinazzi and Sean Gelael. KFC Indonesia Jagonya Ayam Manor Racing Team MRT Mercedes has a ring to it, no?

- COTA is a rubbish track. There, I said it.

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 18 Oct 2016, 15:10

Ataxia wrote:- COTA is a rubbish track. There, I said it.

The Unpopular F1 Opinions thread has been in need of a comeback, hasn't it

Enforcer · Post by **Enforcer** » 18 Oct 2016, 16:56

Rob Dylan wrote:
Ataxia wrote:- COTA is a rubbish track. There, I said it.

The Unpopular F1 Opinions thread has been in need of a comeback, hasn't it

Maybe I'm getting confused with the iRacing forums, but I thought "COTA is rubbish" was a highly popular opinion?

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 18 Oct 2016, 19:48

WTF? COTA rubbish track? Since when?

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 18 Oct 2016, 19:56

Enforcer wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:
Ataxia wrote:- COTA is a rubbish track. There, I said it.

The Unpopular F1 Opinions thread has been in need of a comeback, hasn't it

Maybe I'm getting confused with the iRacing forums, but I thought "COTA is rubbish" was a highly popular opinion?

Nah, this is about the one Tilkedrome outside of Istanbul and maybe Sepang where the general consensus is "it's pretty good", even though Tilke had little to do with it.

That said, it's pretty bland after turn 11 (the hairpin before the stupidly long back straight) if you ask me...

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 18 Oct 2016, 22:11

Turn 1 is so good that I don't care how good or bad the rest of the track is.

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 19 Oct 2016, 02:05

Ataxia wrote:COTA is a rubbish track. There, I said it.

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 19 Oct 2016, 09:05

This has been one classic week for F1 news. Not only do we have Lewis Hamilton starring in Call of Duty, but after Lewis's rustling of the press's jimmies, it's seems the rustling is now on the other jimmie:
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-calls-hamilton-to-attend-us-gp-press-conference-840051/?s=1
Will Hamilton continue to ignore the conferences and play on his phone, or will the FIA simply not ask him any questions? The world tunes in tomorrow to watch the show that's currently gripping America...the press conference :chilton:

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 19 Oct 2016, 09:17

Rob Dylan wrote:Will Hamilton continue to ignore the conferences and play on his phone, or will the FIA simply not ask him any questions? The world tunes in tomorrow to watch the show that's currently gripping America...the press conference

Bizarre. For a guy who claims he doesn't like media attention he certainly goes out of his way to do things that will guarantee media attention. I wonder what questions he'll be asked this weekend?

Post by **Ataxia** » 19 Oct 2016, 09:55

CoopsII wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Will Hamilton continue to ignore the conferences and play on his phone, or will the FIA simply not ask him any questions? The world tunes in tomorrow to watch the show that's currently gripping America...the press conference

Bizarre. For a guy who claims he doesn't like media attention he certainly goes out of his way to do things that will guarantee media attention. I wonder what questions he'll be asked this weekend?

Maybe he'll perform another Prexit.

Also in tangentially related news, Ross Brawn and Adam Parr's book "Total Competition" is out on the 3rd November. According to motorsport.com, one of the contributing factors to Brawn's Mercexit (yes, I'm really doing this) was the lack of trust he had in Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda. I hope he lifts the lid on a few more bits and pieces.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 19 Oct 2016, 11:49

Ataxia wrote:Also in tangentially related news, Ross Brawn and Adam Parr's book "Total Competition" is out on the 3rd November. According to motorsport.com, one of the contributing factors to Brawn's Mercexit (yes, I'm really doing this) was the lack of trust he had in Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda. I hope he lifts the lid on a few more bits and pieces.

Not a great surprise, really, it would've been a bit of a come-down for Brawn to start answering to a young whelp like Wolff after he saved the team from extinction. I wonder if it rankles Brawn to see Wolff enjoy the fruits of what is, ostensibly, Brawns labour. It'll be interesting to see how Wolff copes in the inevitable decline. Personally, I think when the funtimes are over and he's under pressure for results that simply aren't coming it won't be long before Wolff, ahem, legzit. I thank you.

Post by **Miguel98** » 19 Oct 2016, 18:50

CoopsII wrote:
Ataxia wrote:Also in tangentially related news, Ross Brawn and Adam Parr's book "Total Competition" is out on the 3rd November. According to motorsport.com, one of the contributing factors to Brawn's Mercexit (yes, I'm really doing this) was the lack of trust he had in Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda. I hope he lifts the lid on a few more bits and pieces.

Not a great surprise, really, it would've been a bit of a come-down for Brawn to start answering to a young whelp like Wolff after he saved the team from extinction. I wonder if it rankles Brawn to see Wolff enjoy the fruits of what is, ostensibly, Brawns labour. It'll be interesting to see how Wolff copes in the inevitable decline. Personally, I think when the funtimes are over and he's under pressure for results that simply aren't coming it won't be long before Wolff, ahem, legzit. I thank you.

Considering how bad driver management side has been at Mercedes, Brawn might have been right from the get go.

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 19 Oct 2016, 22:04

Ataxia wrote:
CoopsII wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Will Hamilton continue to ignore the conferences and play on his phone, or will the FIA simply not ask him any questions? The world tunes in tomorrow to watch the show that's currently gripping America...the press conference

Bizarre. For a guy who claims he doesn't like media attention he certainly goes out of his way to do things that will guarantee media attention. I wonder what questions he'll be asked this weekend?

Maybe he'll perform another Prexit.

Followed by an early Prixit?

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 20 Oct 2016, 21:02

Crooked Bernie dragging his failing sport to another potential dictatorship. Sad! #MakeFormula1GreatAgain

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 21 Oct 2016, 12:08

GwilymJJames wrote:Crooked Bernie dragging his failing sport to another potential dictatorship. Sad! #MakeFormula1GreatAgain

#WhenwasitgreatpeoplehavecomplainedaboutsomeaspectofFormulaOneforaslongasIcanremember

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 21 Oct 2016, 19:42

great hashtag! gone into my sig lol

Post by **Miguel98** » 21 Oct 2016, 21:22

CoopsII wrote:
GwilymJJames wrote:Crooked Bernie dragging his failing sport to another potential dictatorship. Sad! #MakeFormula1GreatAgain

#WhenwasitgreatpeoplehavecomplainedaboutsomeaspectofFormulaOneforaslongasIcanremember

RIP phone view :pantano:

Fetzie · Post by **Fetzie** » 22 Oct 2016, 19:43

The drivers have been told that Verstappen's signature defence against being overtaken (moving to block an overtake while under braking) has been deemed illegal and incidents of it happening will be referred to the stewards.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 23 Oct 2016, 10:20

I'll be missing this race once again due to the late broadcast on C4. Let me know if it was any good.

I have my nominations sorted though.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 23 Oct 2016, 15:44

Don't worry Coops, if quali was anything you'll go by, at least 50% of the screen time will be taken up by celebrities, most of which I've never heard of.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 23 Oct 2016, 16:11

This is the first time since the Spanish GP that nobody has been given a grid penalty. I'm slightly suprised Palmer did not get a grid drop for blatantly blocking button in q1, although he did attempt to move out the way which would have helped.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 23 Oct 2016, 18:59

Best thing about this race so far is it's before the clock change this year, so unlike last year doesn't clash with the Strictly results show! Hurrah!

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 23 Oct 2016, 19:33

I do like it when a race goes like this, the strategies not turning out as anyone had widely predicted. I enjoy it flying in the face of the predictable. Ted Kravitz-style F1-as-a-mathematical-equation.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:13

Carlos Sainz the Younger is now running in fifth place. Interesting things can happen.

...and Kimi's doing a Mansell.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:18

Simtek wrote:Carlos Sainz the Younger is now running in fifth place. Interesting things can happen.

Unrejectification?

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:20

One more retirement and Sauber scores!

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:23

Aislabie wrote:
Simtek wrote:Carlos Sainz the Younger is now running in fifth place. Interesting things can happen.

Unrejectification?

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:24

Henrique wrote:One more retirement and Sauber scores!

And some creative braking from Massa very nearly led to two!

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:46

Haas scores at their home race :dance:

Post by **mario** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:51

Simtek wrote:Carlos Sainz the Younger is now running in fifth place. Interesting things can happen.

...and Kimi's doing a Mansell.

Well, it was a 6th in the end after a pretty feisty drive by Alonso (he was enjoying himself at the end there, wasn't he?). Incidentally, thinking about Kimi, given that he was going in reverse down the pitlane there, might he potentially be penalised for that?

Aislabie wrote:
Henrique wrote:One more retirement and Sauber scores!

And some creative braking from Massa very nearly led to two!

Of course, the flip side of that would have been the fact that Manor would have then lost out to Sauber in the WCC, and in turn seen their income slide quite substantially (because, on countback, Sauber have finished in 12th three times whilst Manor's next best result is 13th place).

went · Post by **went** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:54

Not all is lost- Alonso is under investigation so he might lose the 5th place to Sainz. Otherwise, Carlos still needs one more 6th place and he's done.

Great stuff from Nando in the last few laps though.

Post by **Miguel98** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:54

mario wrote:
Simtek wrote:Carlos Sainz the Younger is now running in fifth place. Interesting things can happen.

...and Kimi's doing a Mansell.

Well, it was a 6th in the end after a pretty feisty drive by Alonso (he was enjoying himself at the end there, wasn't he?). Incidentally, thinking about Kimi, given that he was going in reverse down the pitlane there, might he potentially be penalised for that?

Aislabie wrote:
Henrique wrote:One more retirement and Sauber scores!

And some creative braking from Massa very nearly led to two!

Of course, the flip side of that would have been the fact that Manor would have then lost out to Sauber in the WCC, and in turn seen their income slide quite substantially (because, on countback, Sauber have finished in 12th three times whilst Manor's next best result is 13th place).

Regarding Kimi, he technically didn't reverse, since on the rules, it talks about reversing the car whilst having the power on, which Kimi hadn't.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:55

I recon Alonso will get a penalty for that, although I don't think he should personally.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 23 Oct 2016, 20:59

Where would we be without Dan Ricciardo?

Post by **Miguel98** » 23 Oct 2016, 21:01

IIDOTR for Butler drinking Red Bull from Ricky's shoe.

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 23 Oct 2016, 22:18

And your official driver of the day is...........Max Verstappen.

:facepalm:

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 24 Oct 2016, 06:06

Barbazza wrote:Don't worry Coops, if quali was anything you'll go by, at least 50% of the screen time will be taken up by celebrities, most of which I've never heard of.

That's probably the future of F1 coverage.

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 24 Oct 2016, 07:03

AustralianStig wrote:And your official driver of the day is...........Max Verstappen.

Nowadays any second-rate performance wins DOTD with Rio gone.

Having the voting close before the race is even over is even sillier than having a 'vote' (which excluded Rio Haryanto, one of the drivers who was perfectly eligible to win the vote) in the first place. It's like asking F1Fanatic users to vote for a driver of the day and it not be Hamilton...

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 24 Oct 2016, 17:07

AustralianStig wrote:And your official driver of the day is...........Max Verstappen.

I confidently predicted that this would happen after he retired during the race. Perhaps it's decided by Sky's F1 team, given that they were still raving on about how great he was while desperately finding any possible way to absolve him of any blame for either the late pit stop decision (laughably saying it must be the mechanics fault) or the place he parked up. Both Max and Sky were utter crap again this weekend,

(Incidentally, I wouldn't be surprised if Max broke the car by over-revving in haste at the pit stop either, not that anyone else seems to have come up with that theory)