Reject of the Race - Japan

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:40

So yeah.

Gonna have to go with Red Bull's luck on this one. Really unfortunate for both cars not to score points. Also, a mention for Will Stevens for that spin.

GerhardTalger · Post by **GerhardTalger** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:40

Red Bull, definitely.

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:42

Will Stevens. Speeding in the pit lane and that spin.

Oh wait Sainz for hitting the marker.

I mean the race didn't really have much to offer to find a dead set RPOTR.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:44

Red bull. Horrible race and finished behind a McLaren.

Special mention for Stevens and Sauber.

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:44

Maybe that podium press conference.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:45

Carlos Sainz, for hitting that pit lane marker. That was just silly.

Post by **Miguel98** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:46

Red Bull - Kvyat had no brakes, and while Ricky was unlucky (Pirelli y make such easy cut tyres), they ran pnowhere the for the rest of the race.
Honda - Not McLaren. But Honda. We know how shite they would be. But Alonso and Button are tired of this bullshit. When you hear your #1 driver saying it's as good as a GP2 engine, you know you're bathplug. And are shite.
Felipe Massa - Dumb move, and ruined one race before we reached turn 1, and then ruined his own and Perez's into turn 1. Top lel.
Rosberg's start - Stop making bad starts.
Carlos Sainz - Destroys Max for one half of the race, and then decides crashing into the bollard is a good idea.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:51

The only one who did something both bad and unique, Carlos Sainz.

Post by **Londoner** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:53

Red Bull - Everything that could go wrong did go wrong.
Honda - It's not funny anymore. Wouldn't be surprised if Alonso ragequits early next year if this continues.

But ROTR has to go to:

Felipe Massa - What an utter assclown.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:58

I would post my nomination for Reject Of The Race, but all you'll hear is static and the occasional spit and pop as the microphone tries and fails to connect with its receiver.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 27 Sep 2015, 06:59

Traffic for giving way to the leaders. Fack blue flags

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 27 Sep 2015, 07:14

Carlos Sainz certainly deserves his mentions but me it's Pireli tires that go down to canvas after on lock up is not only rejectful, but dangerous!

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 27 Sep 2015, 07:16

Sainz is 1st but Johnny Herbert slagging off Fernando is getting up there.

Dude really hates Fernando. When Button makes comments, it is cute but when Fernando does it....

Spectoremg · Post by **Spectoremg** » 27 Sep 2015, 08:23

Not much rejectfulness around IMO so it's the race coverage; far too many shots of empty tarmac.

Fetzie · Post by **Fetzie** » 27 Sep 2015, 08:38

Honda. This is getting embarrassing.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 27 Sep 2015, 08:47

dinizintheoven wrote:I would post my nomination for Reject Of The Race, but all you'll hear is static and the occasional spit and pop as the microphone tries and fails to connect with its receiver.

this

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 27 Sep 2015, 09:23

The Sky commentary team - Crofty for saying it was Lewis' first ever win at Suzuka (last year anyone?), and Brundle is usually good at correcting errors (like he used to with Murray Walker) totally missing it too!

Apart from that, Massa, Sainz and the podium microphones are all in with a shout.

Zergon · Post by **Zergon** » 27 Sep 2015, 09:33

Nothing really awful this time so I give this to Carlos Sainz, as even if that front wing damage only ended up costing one place to his teammate (and he still scored point) it was still stupid mistake that should had been easily avoided.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 27 Sep 2015, 10:05

I change my nominations to Niki Lauda for a report that they are baffled by lack of tv coverage. Why would one watch a car alone in the front doing no overtaking (except blue flags) instead of midpack battle?

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 27 Sep 2015, 10:17

James1978 wrote:The Sky commentary team - Crofty for saying it was Lewis' first ever win at Suzuka (last year anyone?), and Brundle is usually good at correcting errors (like he used to with Murray Walker) totally missing it too!

Sky Italy said it too - whilst everyone would like to forget that race for reasons we sadly know, it's still a quite remarkable blunder given the amount of stats they have access to.

I'll go for Red Bull. Apart from Kvyat's rookie mistake in Q3, both drivers finished outside the points and got humiliated by the Toro Rossos.

Post by **tommykl** » 27 Sep 2015, 10:31

Felipe Massa - ruined three races, including his own, in the space of one corner.
Carlos Sainz - as much as I like him, and as much as he was dominating Verstappen for most of the race, hitting a pitlane bollard is silly, and also for putting up no resistance whatsoever when Max came up to pass him.
David Croft - for claiming that Jenson Button was in a "Daniil Kvyat-Felipe Nasr sandwich". He seems to enjoy eating piece-of-bread-and-another-piece-of-bread sandwiches.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 Sep 2015, 11:39

tommykl wrote:David Croft - for claiming that Jenson Button was in a "Daniil Kvyat-Felipe Nasr sandwich". He seems to enjoy eating piece-of-bread-and-another-piece-of-bread sandwiches.

I bet he would if Hamilton asked him to.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 27 Sep 2015, 14:39

1)Carlos Sainz Jr.: Maybe he thought that he was racing at NASCAR, and took the commitment cone...

2)Felipe Massa: Rookie mistake runied his race, as well Dale's and Checo's.

Dishonorable mentions to Honda (GP2 engine) and Red Bull (dissastrous weekend)

Vassago · Post by **Vassago** » 27 Sep 2015, 14:43

Fernando Alonso - Yes, the engine sucks but we know that since Melbourne. However bitching about it in public on Honda's home turf is plain dumb. His political approach to holding the paddock hostage over the best seat available has bitten him in the ass and he can't do anything about it anymore. Sure, Button is equally downbeat but Alonso acts like a spoiled brat while allegedly getting paid the highest salary on the grid. Man up, cry baby!

Dan B · Post by **Dan B** » 27 Sep 2015, 15:13

Vassago wrote:Fernando Alonso - Yes, the engine sucks but we know that since Melbourne. However bitching about it in public on Honda's home turf is plain dumb. His political approach to holding the paddock hostage over the best seat available has bitten him in the ass and he can't do anything about it anymore. Sure, Button is equally downbeat but Alonso acts like a spoiled brat while allegedly getting paid the highest salary on the grid. Man up, cry baby!

While I get what you are saying, I think the comment was completely justified. Of course it was political, but at the same time it showed how poor (in race context) the engine really is. It's one thing to be wound up by the Saubers; their cars might not be as good but they have Ferrari power, whilst it's another thing to be passed by the Toro Rossos, which utilize Renaults. Both Alonso and Button are tired of the team's lack of performance, and what used to be a top flight team became at best a midfield team.

So my ROTR goes to McLaren-Honda; yes they're crap and they've been the worst team all year (Manor gets a bye because of their situation), but at the same time it is embarrassing to have your drivers beaten soundly by their rivals.

Other ROTRs:
Red Bull: Actually did worse than McLaren; Kvyat with multiple mechanical issues whilst Riccardo got pinballed around at the start. And like the McLarens, they were beaten by the Toro Rossos.

Felipe Massa: Not the first time we've seen him do startline shenanigans here but it still isn't excusable.

The TV coverage: Not for not showing the Mercedes, but rather for the shots of empty tarmac and/or random parts of the track (like one of the service areas). Could've been way better.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 Sep 2015, 17:02

Dan B wrote:The TV coverage: Not for not showing the Mercedes, but rather for the shots of empty tarmac and/or random parts of the track (like one of the service areas). Could've been way better.

They also somehow managed to place the camera at turn 1 in a position where it entirely missed both the tussle at the start and Hamilton forcing Rosberg off.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 27 Sep 2015, 17:02

1. Red Bull: Hell, even Manor were giving them a run for their money.

2. Honda: I think GP2 engines are faster than them right now.

Dishonorable Mentions:

Massa: Hung around in the back for the whole race after his bad start.

Sainz Jr.: Threw away a very good result today over a pole.

Post by **mario** » 27 Sep 2015, 18:20

AxelP800 wrote:I change my nominations to Niki Lauda for a report that they are baffled by lack of tv coverage. Why would one watch a car alone in the front doing no overtaking (except blue flags) instead of midpack battle?

That's nothing to F1 Fanatic now trying to circulate a conspiracy theory that FOM were deliberately avoiding Mercedes as punishment for not giving Red Bull an engine deal - Keith, as ever, is demonstrating his ability to be a thundering arse.

I guess that Sainz Jr.'s clumsy pit lane incident is probably the silliest moment worth of a ROTR - whilst it is true that Massa was a bit ham fisted at the start, Ricciardo has admitted that he was probably a little over optimistic with his move and placed the car into a gap that was always going to narrow.

MartinJS81 · Post by **MartinJS81** » 27 Sep 2015, 19:26

As for the cameras, what idiot decided to mount that fancy swivelling camera on the left of Perez's car, when all the overtakes are made on left-handers, meaning it missed most of the action it was there for.

The whole thing was pretty rejectful really, only enlivened by some great midfield jostling and the best 52.8 lpas of Nico's season. Glad I didn't get up at 5am for it.

Fetzie · Post by **Fetzie** » 27 Sep 2015, 19:52

Dan B wrote:So my ROTR goes to McLaren-Honda; yes they're crap and they've been the worst team all year (Manor gets a bye because of their situation), but at the same time it is embarrassing to have your drivers beaten soundly by their rivals.

Although the McLaren designed bit is actually quite good. They have plenty of traction in corners and off the line, and hardly any over or understeer. The thing that is costing them points is that pig of a Honda engine which runs out of ERS boost after 300 metres.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 27 Sep 2015, 20:33

Red Bull - Kyvat Qualifying crash didnt help them nore did Ricciardo getting damage but the fact thay couldnt even move forward in the race is just woeful on a day where Mclaren looked faster then Red Bull

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 28 Sep 2015, 00:14

RedBull - A bit of a massive fail to finish THAT far down.

HM: Carlos Sainz - Because hitting the pitlane bollard is a good idea...
Felipe Massa - Usually one of the first to bitch and moan when someone hit's him, unusually quiet this time after his start crash...

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 28 Sep 2015, 02:34

1. Red Bull for their terrible race and non-points finish
2. Will Stevens for spinning right in front of Alexander Rossi

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 28 Sep 2015, 05:43

Alonso - If you want to leave the team then simply Man Up and leave. Stage-managed radio messages aren't going to bring about any changes. The Honda engine is poor? We knew that.

Rosberg - This weekend has been his recent career in a microcosm; gets pole position and advantage when Hamilton is prevented from responding. Loses advantage right away due to Hamilton out-racing him.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Sep 2015, 07:28

CoopsII wrote:Rosberg - This weekend has been his recent career in a microcosm; gets pole position and advantage when Hamilton is prevented from responding. Loses advantage right away due to Hamilton out-racing him.

If you define "out-racing" as just plain forcing him off the road, sure...

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 28 Sep 2015, 08:24

Salamander wrote:
CoopsII wrote:Rosberg - This weekend has been his recent career in a microcosm; gets pole position and advantage when Hamilton is prevented from responding. Loses advantage right away due to Hamilton out-racing him.

If you define "out-racing" as just plain forcing him off the road, sure...

He'd got a wheel in front and then after that left it to Rosberg to decide what to do next. So basically "yes".

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 28 Sep 2015, 11:51

CoopsII wrote:
Salamander wrote:
CoopsII wrote:Rosberg - This weekend has been his recent career in a microcosm; gets pole position and advantage when Hamilton is prevented from responding. Loses advantage right away due to Hamilton out-racing him.

If you define "out-racing" as just plain forcing him off the road, sure...

He'd got a wheel in front and then after that left it to Rosberg to decide what to do next. So basically "yes".

Autosport is suggesting that Rosberg was slightly down on power at the start due to a hotter power unit. So....

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