Unusual F1 Stats

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 07 Jun 2014, 20:11

If Mercedes finish 1-2 tomorrow, then they will break the record for the most consecutive 1-2 finishes for a team in F1 history. The record is currently 5, joint shared by Ferrari (1952 and 2002) and Mercedes (2014-). Otherwise expect those two to take each other out and Vettel or one of the Williams to win!

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 07 Jun 2014, 20:15

good_Ralf wrote:If Mercedes finish 1-2 tomorrow, then they will break the record for the most consecutive 1-2 finishes for a team in F1 history. The record is currently 5, joint shared by Ferrari (1952 and 2002) and Mercedes (2014-). Otherwise expect those two to take each other out and Vettel or one of the Williams to win!

Hes happy abotu the idea of vettel winning! BANH IM!!!~~~!

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 08 Jun 2014, 09:00

Turbogirl wrote:Points gap between a World Champion and his teammate
(or at least one of the drivers who drove a similar car during the season)

Nice work.

Turbogirl · Post by **Turbogirl** » 08 Jun 2014, 12:18

Jocke1 wrote:
Turbogirl wrote:Points gap between a World Champion and his teammate
(or at least one of the drivers who drove a similar car during the season)

Nice work.

Thank you.

After recently letting the 1984 World Championship pass me by once again, I was curious, if this was indeed the closest outcome of all time, and since I was unable to find an official stats list for this, I did some research and made my own.

And here is another one I was curious about:

Title Defenders
(How well did a World Champion defend his title the following year, if at all?)

1950: Nino Farina, 30 points - 19 points (4th)
1951: Juan Manuel Fangio, 31 points - did not defend his title in 1952
1953: Alberto Ascari, 36 points - 34,5 points (1st) - 1,1 points (25th)
1955: Juan Manuel Fangio, 42 points - 40 points (1st) - 30 points (1st) - 40 points (1st) - 7 points (14th)
1958: Mike Hawthorn, 42 points - did not defend his title in 1959
1959: Jack Brabham, 31 points - 43 points (1st) - 4 points (11th)
1961: Phil Hill, 34 points - 14 points (6th)
1962: Graham Hill, 42 points - 33 points (2nd)
1963: Jim Clark, 54 points - 32 points (3rd)
1964: John Surtees, 40 points - 17 points (5th)
1965: Jim Clark, 54 points - 16 points (6th)
1966: Jack Brabham, 42 points - 46 points (2nd)
1967: Denny Hulme, 51 points - 33 points (3rd)
1968: Graham Hill, 48 points - 19 points (7th)
1969: Jackie Stewart, 63 points - 25 points (6th)
1970: Jochen Rindt, 45 points - did not defend his title in 1971
1971: Jackie Stewart, 62 points - 45 points (2nd)
1972: Emerson Fittipaldi, 61 points - 55 points (2nd)
1973: Jackie Stewart, 71 points - did not defend his title in 1974
1974: Emerson Fittipaldi, 55 points - 45 points (2nd)
1975: Niki Lauda, 64,5 points - 68 points (2nd)
1976: James Hunt, 69 points - 40 points (5th)
1977: Niki Lauda, 72 points - 44 points (4th)
1978: Mario Andretti, 64 points - 14 points (10th)
1979: Jody Scheckter, 51 points - 2 points (19th) worst title defender
1980: Alan Jones, 67 points - 46 points (3rd)
1981: Nelson Piquet, 50 points - 20 points (11th)
1982: Keke Rosberg, 44 points - 27 points (5th)
1983: Nelson Piquet, 59 points - 29 points (5th)
1984: Niki Lauda, 72 points - 14 points (10th)
1985: Alain Prost, 73 points - 72 points (1st) - 46 points (4th)
1987: Nelson Piquet, 73 points - 22 points (6th)
1988: Ayrton Senna, 90 points - 60 points (2nd)
1989: Alain Prost, 76 points - 71 points (2nd)
1990: Ayrton Senna, 78 points - 96 points (1st) - 50 points (4th)
1992: Nigel Mansell, 108 points - did not defend his title in 1993
1993: Alain Prost, 99 points - did not defend his title in 1994
1994: Michael Schumacher, 92 points - 102 points (1st) - 59 points (3rd)
1996: Damon Hill, 97 points - 7 points (12th)
1997: Jacques Villeneuve, 81 points - 21 points (5th)
1998: Mika Häkkinen, 100 points - 76 points (1st) - 89 points (2nd)
2000: Michael Schumacher, 108 points - 123 points (1st) - 144 points (1st) - 93 points (1st) - 148 points (1st) - 62 points (3rd) best title defender
2005: Fernando Alonso, 133 points - 134 points (1st) - 109 points (3rd)
2007: Kimi Räikkönen, 110 points - 75 points (3rd)
2008: Lewis Hamilton, 98 points - 49 points (5th)
2009: Jenson Button, 95 points - 214 points (5th)
2010: Sebastian Vettel, 256 points - 392 points (1st) - 281 points (1st) - 397 points (1st) - ???

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 08 Jun 2014, 16:27

No surprise, Ferrari was trully awful and the ROTY of 1980 season.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 08 Jun 2014, 16:33

Turbogirl wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
Turbogirl wrote:Points gap between a World Champion and his teammate
(or at least one of the drivers who drove a similar car during the season)

Nice work.

Thank you.

After recently letting the 1984 World Championship pass me by once again, I was curious, if this was indeed the closest outcome of all time, and since I was unable to find an official stats list for this, I did some research and made my own.

And here is another one I was curious about:

Title Defenders
(How well did a World Champion defend his title the following year, if at all?)

1950: Nino Farina, 30 points - 19 points (4th)
1951: Juan Manuel Fangio, 31 points - did not defend his title in 1952
1953: Alberto Ascari, 36 points - 34,5 points (1st) - 1,1 points (25th)
1955: Juan Manuel Fangio, 42 points - 40 points (1st) - 30 points (1st) - 40 points (1st) - 7 points (14th)
1958: Mike Hawthorn, 42 points - did not defend his title in 1959
1959: Jack Brabham, 31 points - 43 points (1st) - 4 points (11th)
1961: Phil Hill, 34 points - 14 points (6th)
1962: Graham Hill, 42 points - 33 points (2nd)
1963: Jim Clark, 54 points - 32 points (3rd)
1964: John Surtees, 40 points - 17 points (5th)
1965: Jim Clark, 54 points - 16 points (6th)
1966: Jack Brabham, 42 points - 46 points (2nd)
1967: Denny Hulme, 51 points - 33 points (3rd)
1968: Graham Hill, 48 points - 19 points (7th)
1969: Jackie Stewart, 63 points - 25 points (6th)
1970: Jochen Rindt, 45 points - did not defend his title in 1971
1971: Jackie Stewart, 62 points - 45 points (2nd)
1972: Emerson Fittipaldi, 61 points - 55 points (2nd)
1973: Jackie Stewart, 71 points - did not defend his title in 1974
1974: Emerson Fittipaldi, 55 points - 45 points (2nd)
1975: Niki Lauda, 64,5 points - 68 points (2nd)
1976: James Hunt, 69 points - 40 points (5th)
1977: Niki Lauda, 72 points - 44 points (4th)
1978: Mario Andretti, 64 points - 14 points (10th)
1979: Jody Scheckter, 51 points - 2 points (19th) worst title defender
1980: Alan Jones, 67 points - 46 points (3rd)
1981: Nelson Piquet, 50 points - 20 points (11th)
1982: Keke Rosberg, 44 points - 27 points (5th)
1983: Nelson Piquet, 59 points - 29 points (5th)
1984: Niki Lauda, 72 points - 14 points (10th)
1985: Alain Prost, 73 points - 72 points (1st) - 46 points (4th)
1987: Nelson Piquet, 73 points - 22 points (6th)
1988: Ayrton Senna, 90 points - 60 points (2nd)
1989: Alain Prost, 76 points - 71 points (2nd)
1990: Ayrton Senna, 78 points - 96 points (1st) - 50 points (4th)
1992: Nigel Mansell, 108 points - did not defend his title in 1993
1993: Alain Prost, 99 points - did not defend his title in 1994
1994: Michael Schumacher, 92 points - 102 points (1st) - 59 points (3rd)
1996: Damon Hill, 97 points - 7 points (12th)
1997: Jacques Villeneuve, 81 points - 21 points (5th)
1998: Mika Häkkinen, 100 points - 76 points (1st) - 89 points (2nd)
2000: Michael Schumacher, 108 points - 123 points (1st) - 144 points (1st) - 93 points (1st) - 148 points (1st) - 62 points (3rd) best title defender
2005: Fernando Alonso, 133 points - 134 points (1st) - 109 points (3rd)
2007: Kimi Räikkönen, 110 points - 75 points (3rd)
2008: Lewis Hamilton, 98 points - 49 points (5th)
2009: Jenson Button, 95 points - 214 points (5th)
2010: Sebastian Vettel, 256 points - 392 points (1st) - 281 points (1st) - 397 points (1st) - ???

F1 Racing did an article about some of the worst title defences during Hamilton's struggles in the first half of 2009. Good read

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 08 Jun 2014, 16:43

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:F1 Racing did an article about some of the worst title defences during Hamilton's struggles in the first half of 2009. Good read

Do you remember any of the examples in the article? Lauda only finished about 3 races in 1985 including the win at Zandvoort, Hill only scored 1 podium all year in '97 and Villeneuve managed just two top 3 finishes in 1998.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 08 Jun 2014, 16:48

good_Ralf wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:F1 Racing did an article about some of the worst title defences during Hamilton's struggles in the first half of 2009. Good read

Do you remember any of the examples in the article? Lauda only finished about 3 races in 1985 including the win at Zandvoort, Hill only scored 1 podium all year in '97 and Villeneuve managed just two top 3 finishes in 1998.

Brabham's poor 1961 defence and Schumacher's fall in 2005 where included

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 08 Jun 2014, 19:50

This is only the sixth time a race has ended under safety car, and the second in Canada.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 08 Jun 2014, 20:29

This results, also, ends the 20 wins streak of Germany as driver or team.

Turbogirl · Post by **Turbogirl** » 09 Jun 2014, 13:17

Highscores

Granted, this is a pretty misleading title, but I can't think of a better one. You all know the lists about most pole-positions, most wins, most Championship points... But what I couldn't find was a list about when certain records were first set and when they were first broken. I did a little research, and here is what I came up with:

Highscore Championship Points
(of 1st in World Championship)

1950: 30 points (Nino Farina)
1951: 31 points (Juan Manuel Fangio)
1952: 36 points (Alberto Ascari)
1954: 42 points (Juan Manuel Fangio)
1960: 43 points (Jack Brabham)
1963: 54 points (Jim Clark)
1969: 63 points (Jackie Stewart)
1973: 71 points (Jackie Stewart)
1977: 72 points (Niki Lauda)
1985: 73 points (Alain Prost)
1988: 90 points (Ayrton Senna)
1991: 96 points (Ayrton Senna)
1992: 108 points (Nigel Mansell)
2001: 123 points (Michael Schumacher)
2002: 144 points (Michael Schumacher)
2004: 148 points (Michael Schumacher)
2010: 256 points (Sebastian Vettel)
2011: 392 points (Sebastian Vettel)
2013: 397 points (Sebastian Vettel)

Highscore Race Wins

1950: 3 wins (Nino Farina / Juan Manuel Fangio)
1952: 6 wins (Alberto Ascari)
1963: 7 wins (Jim Clark)
1988: 8 wins (Ayrton Senna)
1992: 9 wins (Nigel Mansell)
2002: 11 wins (Michael Schumacher)
2004: 13 wins (Michael Schumacher)

Highscore Pole-Positions

1950: 4 poles (Juan Manuel Fangio)
1952: 5 poles (Alberto Ascari)
1953: 6 poles (Alberto Ascari)
1963: 7 poles (Jim Clark)
1973: 9 poles (Ronnie Peterson) *
1988: 13 poles (Ayrton Senna)
1992: 14 poles (Nigel Mansell)
2011: 15 poles (Sebastian Vettel)

* Anyone else as pleasantly surprised as me to actually find Ronnie Peterson appearing in a record list? Especially since he's the only driver without a Championship title in here!

Highscore Championship Points
(of 2nd in World Championship)

1950: 27 points (Juan Manuel Fangio)
1953: 28 points (Juan Manuel Fangio)
1958: 41 points (Stirling Moss)
1967: 46 points (Jack Brabham)
1973: 55 points (Emerson Fittipaldi)
1976: 68 Points (Niki Lauda)
1984: 71,5 points (Alain Prost)
1988: 87 points (Alain Prost)
1994: 91 points (Damon Hill)
2004: 114 points (Rubens Barrichello)
2006: 121 points (Michael Schumacher)
2010: 252 points (Fernando Alonso)
2011: 270 points (Jenson Button)
2012: 278 points (Fernando Alonso)

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 10 Jun 2014, 18:20

Drivers who congratulated Ricciardo on Sunday;

Jenson Button

Big congratulations to Daniel - I'm a big fan of his, he's a great guy, and he's obviously got the skills. Your first grand prix victory is always very special, so very well done to him.

Romain Grosjean

Congratulations to Daniel for his win which I watched in the garage.

Nico Rosberg

Congratulations to Daniel for his first Formula 1 win.

Lewis Hamilton

Congratulations to Daniel today. It's awesome for him to get his first win and I know this will be a really special day for him.

Jean-Eric Vergne

First of all I would like to congratulate Daniel for his victory! This is the first but I'm sure it won't be the last. He is a fantastic guy, a very fast driver and I feel great respect for him. Well done Daniel!

Daniil Kvyat

Congratulations to Daniel on his first win!

Sebastian Vettel

Congratulations to Daniel for his first win, which is very, very special, so I’m happy for him and happy for the team, especially after such a horrible winter.

Drivers who did not congratulate Ricciardo on Sunday;

Nico Hulkenberg
Sergio Perez
Fernando Alonso
Kimi Raikkonen
Valtteri Bottas
Felipe Massa
Adrian Sutil
Esteban Gutierrez
Jules Bianchi
Max Chilton
Kevin Magnussen
Pastor Maldonado
Kamui Kobayashi
Marcus Ericsson

The above information is taken from the drivers post-race statements through their press officers.
If they didn't mention Dan on the Sunday, perhaps they congratulated him later on. I've no idea

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 10 Jun 2014, 18:35

2014 Canadian Grand Prix was the first race that none of the 2010 entrant teams had a classified finish. There weren't any 2010 entrant teams at the finish of the 2010 Monaco Grand Prix, but Chandhok and Trulli's crash was late enough that both were classified.

It was also the first double DNF for Marussia, and first for the Marussia/Virgin/Manor team since Korea 2010

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 11 Jun 2014, 17:00

Also, Marussia had first first-lap-double-DNF for single team since Toro Rosso at Spanish GP 2009.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Jun 2014, 18:38

Bleu wrote:Also, Marussia had first first-lap-double-DNF for single team since Toro Rosso at Spanish GP 2009.

Isn't that when Trulli decided to cut the first corner? I recall Sutil getting involved as well - he mentioned it when they were arguing over the Brazilian GP's first lap incident.

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 11 Jun 2014, 19:58

Ricciardo's first win came from 6th on the grid.
In 39 wins Vettel's never won from lower than 3rd on the grid. And only 3 of those wins were from 3rd.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 11 Jun 2014, 21:02

Is Panis at the 1996 the lowest starting position for a First F1 win?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 11 Jun 2014, 21:04

WeirdKerr wrote:Is Panis at the 1996 the lowest starting position for a First F1 win?

Button and Panis both started 14th en route to their maiden win.

EDIT: After checking the rest of the internet how could I forget about good old Rubens? :oops:

Eifelland · Post by **Eifelland** » 11 Jun 2014, 21:39

Rob Dylan wrote:Ricciardo's first win came from 6th on the grid.
In 39 wins Vettel's never won from lower than 3rd on the grid. And only 3 of those wins were from 3rd.

When you look at the fact that since joining RBR, prior to this season, Vettel was on pole 47% of the time, not counting p2 starts, you understand better why though.

Turbogirl · Post by **Turbogirl** » 12 Jun 2014, 14:17

good_Ralf wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:Is Panis at the 1996 the lowest starting position for a First F1 win?

Button and Panis both started 14th en route to their maiden win.

EDIT: After checking the rest of the internet how could I forget about good old Rubens?

Let me help you with this list.

Who came from where?
(A statistic about maiden wins in F1 and from which grid position they were achieved / including Indy 500 as long as it was part of the F1 Championship)

1st
Nino Farina, Great Britain 1950
Juan Manuel Fangio, Monaco 1950
Alberto Ascari, Germany 1951
Jose Froilan Gonzalez, Great Britain 1951
Bill Vukovich, Indy 500 1953
Stirling Moss, Great Britain 1955
Pat Flaherty, Indy 500 1956
Joakim Bonnier, Netherlands 1959
Phil Hill, Italy 1960
Jochen Rindt, USA 1969
Niki Lauda, Spain 1974
Jean-Pierre Jabouille, France 1979
Nelson Piquet, USA-West 1980
Ayrton Senna, Portugal 1985
David Coulthard, Portugal 1995
Juan Pablo Montoya, Italy 2001
Fernando Alonso, Hungary 2003
Jarno Trulli, Monaco 2004
Felipe Massa, Turkey 2006
Lewis Hamilton, Canada 2007
Sebastian Vettel, Italy 2008
Mark Webber, Germany 2009
Nico Rosberg, China 2012
Pastor Maldonado, Spain 2012

2nd
Lee Wallard, Indy 500 1951
Piero Taruffi, Switzerland 1952
Jim Rathman, Indy 500 1960
Wolfgang von Trips, Netherlands 1961
Graham Hill, Netherlands 1962
John Surtees, Germany 1963
Ludovico Scarfiotti, Italy 1966
Jody Scheckter, Sweden 1974
John Watson, Austria 1976
Didier Pironi, Belgium 1980
Riccardo Patrese, Monaco 1982
Damon Hill, Hungary 1993
Jacques Villeneuve, Europe 1996
Heinz-Harald Frentzen, San Marino 1997
Robert Kubica, Canada 2008
Heikki Kovalainen, Hungary 2008

3rd
Peter Collins, Belgium 1956
Luigi Musso, Argentina 1956
Tony Brooks, Great Britain 1957
Jack Brabham, Monaco 1959
Richie Ginther, Mexico 1965
Jackie Stewart, Italy 1965
Jacky Ickx, France 1968
Emerson Fittipaldi, USA 1970
Clay Regazzoni, Italy 1970
Peter Revson, Great Britain 1973
James Hunt, Netherlands 1975
Gunnar Nilsson, Belgium 1977
Gilles Villeneuve, Canada 1978
Alain Prost, France 1981
Michele Alboreto, Las Vegas 1982
Nigel Mansell, Europe 1985
Michael Schumacher, Belgium 1992
Ralf Schumacher, San Marino 2001

4th
Pedro Rodriguez, South-Africa 1967
Denny Hulme, Monaco 1967
Jo Siffert, Great Britain 1968
Mario Andretti, South-Africa 1971
Jean-Pierre Beltoise, Monaco 1972
Carlos Reutemann, South-Africa 1974
Gerhard Berger, Mexico 1986

5th
Johnnie Parsons, Indy 500 1950
Francois Cevert, USA 1971
Ronnie Peterson, France 1973
Patrick Depailler, Monaco 1978
Patrick Tambay, Germany 1982
Johnny Herbert, Great Britain 1995
Jean Alesi, Canada 1995
Mika Häkkinen, Europe 1997

6th
Roger Ward, Indy 500 1959
Dan Gurney, France 1962
Jose Carlos Pace, Brasil 1975
Rene Arnoux, Brasil 1980
Thierry Boutsen, Canada 1989
Alessandro Nannini, Japan 1989
Eddie Irvine, Australia 1999
Daniel Ricciardo, Canada 2014

7th
Luigi Fagioli, France 1951
Troy Ruttman, Indy 500 1952
Mike Hawthorn, France 1953
Jimmy Bryan, Indy 500 1958
Lorenzo Bandini, Austria 1964
Elio de Angelis, Austria 1982
Kimi Räikkönen, Malaysia 2003

8th
Innes Ireland, USA 1961
Vittorio Brambilla, Austria 1975
Jacques Laffite, Sweden 1977
Keke Rosberg, Switzerland 1982
Giancarlo Fisichella, Brasil 2003

9th
Maurice Trintignant, Monaco 1955

10th
Bruce McLaren, USA 1959

11th
Peter Gethin, Italy 1971
Jochen Mass, Spain 1975

12th
Giancarlo Baghetti, France 1961
Jim Clark, Belgium 1962

13th
Sam Hanks, Indy 500 1957

14th
Bob Sweikert, Indy 500 1955
Alan Jones, Austria 1977
Olivier Panis, Monaco 1996
Jenson Button, Hungary 2006

18th
Rubens Barrichello, Germany 2000

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 12 Jun 2014, 16:54

Eifelland wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Ricciardo's first win came from 6th on the grid.
In 39 wins Vettel's never won from lower than 3rd on the grid. And only 3 of those wins were from 3rd.

When you look at the fact that since joining RBR, prior to this season, Vettel was on pole 47% of the time, not counting p2 starts, you understand better why though.

True, true. Although there were instances like China 2013 where he failed to pull off alternative strategies or capitalise upon others' mistakes.

It's something he will need to prove he can do sometime, to really get ranked alongside peers like Alonso and Raikkonen who have capitalised incredibly well from lesser grid positions.

GerhardTalger · Post by **GerhardTalger** » 13 Jun 2014, 08:28

Dj_bereta wrote:No surprise, Ferrari was trully awful and the ROTY of 1980 season.

McLaren would also be in the hunt for that title.. but I think the season of Ferrari was just that tad more rejectful.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 13 Jun 2014, 13:40

GerhardTalger wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:No surprise, Ferrari was trully awful and the ROTY of 1980 season.

McLaren would also be in the hunt for that title.. but I think the season of Ferrari was just that tad more rejectful.

I think Scheckter's DNQ in Canada that year speaks for itself.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 21 Jun 2014, 13:06

Last time Williams had a 1-2 in qualifying;
2 august 2003 - Hockenheim

Last time Felipe Massa was on pole;
1 november 2008 - Interlagos

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 21 Jun 2014, 13:58

Massa has 4th longest gap between two poles;

Andretti - 2940 days (1968-76)
Fisichella - 2415 days (1998-2005)
Patrese - 2163 days (1983-89)
Massa - 2058 days (2008-14)

Source: Infostrada

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 22 Jun 2014, 17:29

Austria 2014 represents Williams' highest points score in a single race under the 2010- system. They grossed 27 points today while in Catalunya 2012, they only bagged 25 from Maldonado's win. If the current points system extended back to much older races, then I believe this would be Williams' best score since Monaco 2005.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 22 Jun 2014, 18:31

Jocke1 wrote:Last time Williams had a 1-2 in qualifying;
2 august 2003 - Hockenheim

Last time Felipe Massa was on pole;
1 november 2008 - Interlagos

Also, it was the first Brazilian to be in the pole position in almost 5 years. The last was Barrichello in the Brazilian GP of 2009 season.

Meatwad · Post by **Meatwad** » 22 Jun 2014, 20:23

As I already mentioned in the IIDOTR thread (but was unsure), neither Caterham nor Marussia had a driver running last at any point of the Austrian Grand Prix. Grosjean was in last place for one lap (after starting from the pit lane). Vettel then dropped to last place, which went to Gutiérrez after his retirement. He finished just three tenths behind Ericsson. I checked this from F1 Fanatic.

I'm sure this has never happened before, as Caterham and Marussia (as well as the late HRT) have rarely even beaten anyone to the finish.

I forti sopravivono · Post by **I forti sopravivono** » 01 Jul 2014, 22:20

How many races did a driver lead the WDC from 1950 till 2013?

I counted it with looking at the standings after every race and got some predictable, but also some funny results.

For example: I never knew John Surtees only led one race and that one was at the right moment: after the last race in 1964, James Hunt did the same in 1976.

Michael Schumacher was 121 times the leader after the chequered flag dropped and more than 50 other drivers ever saw themselves on top of the championship one or more times.

01 Michael Schumacher 121 gps (1994 - 1995, 1997 - 2004 and 2006)
02 Alain Prost 78 gps (1982 - 1990 and 1993)
03 Fernando Alonso 52 gps (2005 - 2007, 2010 and 2012)
04 Ayrton Senna 49 gps (1986 - 1991 and 1993)
05 Sebastian Vettel 45 gps (2010 - 2013)
06 Niki Lauda 41 gps (1974 - 1977, 1983 and 1984)
07 Jackie Stewart 34 gps (1966, 1969 - 1973)
08 Lewis Hamilton 32 gps (2007 - 2008, 2010 and 2012)
09 Juan Manuel Fangio 31 gps (1951, 1954 - 1957)
10 Graham Hill 28 gps (1962 - 1965 and 1968)

11 Mika Häkkinen 27 gps (1998 - 2000)
= Emerson Fittipaldi 27 gps (1972 - 1975)

13 Nigel Mansell 25 gps (1986 - 87, 1989 and 1992)
14 Jack Brabham 24 gps (1959 - 60, 1966 and 1970)
15 Jim Clark 21 gps (1963 - 1965 and 1968)
16 Jenson Button 20 gps (2009 - 2010 and 2012)
17 Nelson Piquet 18 gps (1980 - 1983 and 1986 - 87)

18 Kimi Räikkönen 17 gps (2003, 2007 - 08 and 2013)
= Damon Hill 17 gps (1995 - 1996)

20 Jody Scheckter 16 gps (1977 and 1979)
21 Mario Andretti 14 gps (1978)

22 Alberto Ascari 13 gps (1952 - 53)
= Carlos Reutemann 13 gps (1977 - 78 and 1981) first non-world champion in the list
= Denny Hulme 13 gps (1967, 1972 and 1974)

25 Alan Jones 11 gps (1980 - 81)
26 Jochen Rindt 8 gps (1970)

27 Giuseppe Farina 7 gps (1950)
= Stirling Moss 7 gps (1958 and 1961)

29 Bruce McLaren 6 gps (1960 and 1963)
= Clay Regazzoni 6 gps (1974)
= Michele Alboreto 6 gps (1985)
= Mark Webber 6 gps (2010)

33 Mike Hawthorn 5 gps (1958)
= Didier Pironi 5 gps (1982)
= Jacques Villeneuve 5 gps (1997)
= Eddie Irvine 5 gps (1999)

37 Phil Hill 4 gps (1961)
= Jacques Laffite 4 gps (1979)

39 Piero Taruffi 3 gps (1952)
= Jean Behra 3 gps (1956)
= Peter Collins 3 gps (1956)
= John Watson 3 gps (1982)
= Rene Arnoux 3 gps (1980)
= David Coulthard 3 gps (1997 and 2003)

45 Keke Rosberg 2 gps (1982)
= Maurice Trintignant 2 gps (1955)
= Wolfgang von Trips 2 gps (1961)
= Gilles Villeneuve 2 gps (1979)
= Elio de Angelis 2 gps (1985)
= Felipe Massa 2 gps (2008 and 2010)

51 John Surtees 1 gp (1964)
= James Hunt 1 gp (1976)
= Luigi Musso 1 gp (1958)
= Lorenzo Bandini 1 gp (1966)
= Pedro Rodriguez 1 gp (1967)
= Patrick Depailler 1 gp (1978)
= Giancarlo Fisichella 1 gp (2005)
= Robert Kubica 1 gp (2008)

watka · Post by **watka** » 01 Jul 2014, 23:05

Carlos Reutemann as a top driver without a WDC; doesn't surprise me!

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 02 Jul 2014, 19:07

Talking about this, Rubens Barrichello is the driver with most GPs without leading the WDC.

Post by **Ataxia** » 02 Jul 2014, 19:39

Dj_bereta wrote:Talking about this, Rubens Barrichello is the driver with most GPs without leading the WDC.

Well, duh...he's also the driver with the most GPs ever. You could expand and say:

- Rubens Barrichello has more F1 entries than any other Brazilian
- Rubens Barrichello has more F1 entries than any other Rubens
- Rubens Barrichello has more F1 entries than anyone who has drunk a glass of water
- Rubens Barrichello has the most F1 entries without having developed a crippling heroin addiction
- Rubens Barrichello has the most F1 entries of anyone who has teeth
- Out of everybody who has ever appeared on TV, Rubens Barrichello has entered more F1 races than them.
- If anyone's ever seen a frog, Rubens Barrichello has seen the inside of an F1 cockpit more than them.
- Everytime Ataxia provides a flippant or sarcastic response, you can remember that Rubens Barrichello has driven more F1 races than him.

Post by **tommykl** » 03 Jul 2014, 05:12

Ataxia wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Talking about this, Rubens Barrichello is the driver with most GPs without leading the WDC.

Well, duh...he's also the driver with the most GPs ever. You could expand and say:

- Rubens Barrichello has more F1 entries than any other Brazilian
- Rubens Barrichello has more F1 entries than any other Rubens
- Rubens Barrichello has more F1 entries than anyone who has drunk a glass of water
- Rubens Barrichello has the most F1 entries without having developed a crippling heroin addiction
- Rubens Barrichello has the most F1 entries of anyone who has teeth
- Out of everybody who has ever appeared on TV, Rubens Barrichello has entered more F1 races than them.
- If anyone's ever seen a frog, Rubens Barrichello has seen the inside of an F1 cockpit more than them.
- Everytime Ataxia provides a flippant or sarcastic response, you can remember that Rubens Barrichello has driven more F1 races than him.

Well, I think the point was that with such a long career and all his years as Ferrari, you'd expect Rubens to have led the championship at least once...

Post by **Ataxia** » 03 Jul 2014, 09:43

tommykl wrote:Well, I think the point was that with such a long career and all his years as Ferrari, you'd expect Rubens to have led the championship at least once...

Yes, but as Schumacher's team-mate...even if he could lead it, he wouldn't have been allowed to.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 Jul 2014, 09:52

Ataxia wrote:
tommykl wrote:Well, I think the point was that with such a long career and all his years as Ferrari, you'd expect Rubens to have led the championship at least once...

Yes, but as Schumacher's team-mate...even if he could lead it, he wouldn't have been allowed to.

His best chance was probably with Brawn but were he here now he'd probably argue that they favoured Button. Which they probably did being as he was quicker.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 03 Jul 2014, 17:43

Ataxia wrote:
tommykl wrote:Well, I think the point was that with such a long career and all his years as Ferrari, you'd expect Rubens to have led the championship at least once...

Yes, but as Schumacher's team-mate...even if he could lead it, he wouldn't have been allowed to.

The best chance would have been winning the opening race of the season when Schumacher hits problems. Which happened to Irvine in 1999. Well he led the table on three occasions: AUS-BRA, GER-HUN and MAL.

tanel · Post by **tanel** » 04 Jul 2014, 17:53

While leading the championship is for the chosen few, being a contender for the title is for everyone. So here is a list, after how many GPs have drivers had a theoretical shot at the title - meaning there was still enough points available to close the gap with current leader.

Source data is from statsf1.com.

M. SCHUMACHER 255
R. BARRICHELLO 215
N. PIQUET 184
A. PROST 184
F. ALONSO 184
J. BUTTON 177
D. COULTHARD 174
R. PATRESE 165
J. TRULLI 161
K. RAIKKONEN 155
N. MANSELL 152
F. MASSA 146
M. WEBBER 145
N. LAUDA 141
G. FISICHELLA 140
G. BERGER 136
J. ALESI 134
N. HEIDFELD 132
J. LAFFITE 132
A. SENNA 130
M. HAKKINEN 125
C. REUTEMANN 125
R. SCHUMACHER 124
S. VETTEL 121
M. ANDRETTI 118
L. HAMILTON 116
E. FITTIPALDI 114
R. ARNOUX 113
J. VILLENEUVE 109
A. De CESARIS 109
G. HILL 108
E. IRVINE 107
H. FRENTZEN 106
M. ALBORETO 105
N. ROSBERG 104
J. WATSON 102
C. REGAZZONI 102
J. BRABHAM 98
P. De La ROSA 93
J. HERBERT 92
D. HILL 90
J. ICKX 90
P. TAMBAY 89
O. PANIS 88
A. JONES 88
M. BRUNDLE 86
J. SCHECKTER 86
J. STEWART 86
D. HULME 84
B. McLAREN 82
R. PETERSON 82
J. SURTEES 81
H. KOVALAINEN 80
D. WARWICK 80
E. De ANGELIS 77
E. CHEEVER 74
A. SUTIL 73
K. ROSBERG 72
M. SALO 71
T. BOUTSEN 71
C. AMON 70
J. HUNT 69
T. SATO 69
P. DEPAILLER 69
J. MONTOYA 69
J. CLARK 68
T. GLOCK 66
D. GURNEY 64
A. WURZ 63
J. BONNIER 62
V. LIUZZI 62
R. KUBICA 61
J. JARIER 61
J. FANGIO 60
J. BELTOISE 58
C. PACE 58
D. PIRONI 57
I. CAPELLI 57
G. VILLENEUVE 55
S. JOHANSSON 54
K. KOBAYASHI 53
M. SURER 53
J. MASS 51
S. MOSS 51
H. STUCK 51
P. DINIZ 50
J. SIFFERT 50
P. RODRIGUEZ 49
S. NAKAJIMA 48
V. BRAMBILLA 48
J. VERSTAPPEN 47
M. TRINTIGNANT 47
P. MARTINI 46
J. RINDT 46
R. GROSJEAN 45
N. HULKENBERG 44
R. GINTHER 43
S. PEREZ 43
P. MALDONADO 42
D. RICCIARDO 42
C. KLIEN 41
B. GIACOMELLI 40
P. HILL 40
J. BEHRA 40
M. HAWTHORN 40
M. GENE 39
P. ALLIOT 38
M. BLUNDELL 38
S. MODENA 38
G. FARINA 36
P. Di RESTA 35
B. SENNA 35
I. IRELAND 34
V. PETROV 34
A. ASCARI 34
F. CEVERT 34
N. KARTHIKEYAN 33
J. ALGUERSUARI 32
T. BROOKS 32
S. BUEMI 32
J. VERGNE 32
J. OLIVER 31
S. YAMAMOTO 31
K. NAKAJIMA 31
T. FABI 31
L. VILLORESI 31
D. DALY 31
M. HAILWOOD 30
C. ALBERS 30
P. STREIFF 30
A. SUZUKI 30
J. JABOUILLE 30
L. BANDINI 30
J. RATHMANN 30
R. MORENO 30
R. ZONTA 29
E. BERNARD 29
M. GUGELMIN 29
A. NANNINI 29
T. PRYCE 29
L. MUSSO 29
H. REBAQUE 29
A. PIZZONIA 29
J. PALMER 28
J. LEHTO 28
J. GONZALEZ 28
G. MORBIDELLI 28
A. MERZARIO 27
W. Von TRIPS 26
L. SCARFIOTTI 26
E. COMAS 26
K. WENDLINGER 26
C. FITTIPALDI 26
H. SCHELL 24
C. PIC 23
M. SPENCE 23
J. SERVOZGAVIN 23
R. STOMMELEN 23
O. GENDEBIEN 23
K. CHANDHOK 22
J. D'AMBROSIO 22
T. BETTENHAUSEN 22
H. GANLEY 22
S. BOURDAIS 21
E. SALAZAR 21
A. DAVIDSON 21
S. HANKS 21
P. GETHIN 21
M. BALDI 21
G. NILSSON 21
T. MONTEIRO 20
R. DOORNBOS 20
D. ATTWOOD 20
C. ALLISON 20
C. DANNER 20
L. BURTI 20
G. MAZZACANE 20
N. LARINI 20
A. CAFFI 20
P. COLLINS 20
M. CHILTON 19
J. BIANCHI 19
B. ANDERSON 19
E. GUTIERREZ 19
V. BOTTAS 19
S. SPEED 19
F. BONETTO 19
B. VUKOVICH 19
E. PIRRO 19
P. REVSON 18
Z. BAUMGARTNER 18
R. SALVADORI 18
C. Da MATTA 18
B. GACHOT 18
A. YOONG 18
J. BRYAN 18
T. MAGGS 18
E. BERNOLDI 18
T. TAYLOR 17
M. GREGORY 17
G. Van LENNEP 17
A. De ADAMICH 16
J. THOMSON 16
B. REDMAN 16
C. MENDITEGUY 15
P. TARUFFI 15
V. ELFORD 15
P. COURAGE 15
L. ROSIER 15
P. FRERE 15
M. DONOHUE 15
H. HERRMANN 15
L. BIANCHI 15
D. CARTER 15
S. MOSER 14
R. WISELL 14
R. MANZON 14
H. PESCAROLO 14
T. SCHENKEN 13
S. LEWISEVANS 13
P. ARUNDELL 12
P. GOLDSMITH 12
M. PARKES 12
R. WARD 12
L. Di GRASSI 12
C. SERRA 11
M. WINKELHOCK 11
W. MAIRESSE 11
C. GODIN de BEAUFORT 11
G. BAGHETTI 11
S. NAKANO 11
R. FLOCKHART 11
P. GHINZANI 11
L. FAGIOLI 11
P. FRIESACHER 11
G. Van Der GARDE 11
R. ZORZI 11
K. KLING 10
D. SULLIVAN 10
T. RUTTMAN 10
P. BIRA 10
E. De GRAFFENRIED 10
J. PARSONS 10
A. CROSS 10
P. RUSSO 10
P. LAMY 10
S. BELLOF 10
R. PARNELL 10
S. BORGUDD 10
J. DUMFRIES 10
J. BOULLION 10
M. NAZARUK 10
E. CASTELLOTTI 10
J. CECOTTO 10
L. BADOER 10
O. MARIMON 10
A. De PORTAGO 10
J. BAILEY 10
A. LINDEN 10
N. KIESA 9
G. PANTANO 9
W. FITTIPALDI 9
C. PERDISA 9
U. MAGLIOLI 9
T. ENGE 9
J. WILSON 9
F. MONTAGNY 9
G. BRUNI 9
F. BARBAZZA 9
U. KATAYAMA 9
G. FOLLMER 9
J. MAGNUSSEN 9
T. MARQUES 9
R. MIERES 9
Y. GIRAUDCABANTOUS 9
G. TARQUINI 9
A. McNISH 9
A. ZANARDI 9
R. FIRMAN 9
Y. IDE 9
L. PEREZSALA 9
O. GROUILLARD 9
M. ERICSSON 8
K. MAGNUSSEN 8
D. KVYAT 8
I. GIUNTI 8
D. BELL 8
J. MILES 8
T. BRISE 8
L. LOMBARDI 8
J. BOYD 8
G. AMICK 8
G. LIGIER 7
C. IRWIN 7
J. LOVE 7
R. RODRIGUEZ 6
G. CABIANCA 6
E. JOHNSON 6
W. HANSGEN 6
D. BRANSON 6
H. TAYLOR 6
P. FLAHERTY 6
D. FREELAND 6
L. CHIRON 5
G. MITTER 5
J. LEWIS 5
D. RATHMANN 5
M. AYULO 5
E. BAYOL 5
A. PILETTE 5
G. SCARLATTI 5
E. THOMPSON 5

Edited for inaccuracies in 2014 season, some drivers still had a chance at the title.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 06 Jul 2014, 15:23

Its the second GP in-a-row that the race leader of British Grand Prix retires due a gearbox problem.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 06 Jul 2014, 15:29

Had he finished Rosberg would have equaled Alonso in 2006 and Vettel in 2011 for consecutive podiums from the start of the season (9)

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 06 Jul 2014, 15:35

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Had he finished Rosberg would have equaled Alonso in 2006 and Vettel in 2011 for consecutive podiums from the start of the season (9)

And all three would have had 1sts and 2nds in every one of those 9 races.