2014 Canadian Grand Prix Thread

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 07 Jun 2014, 15:41

My name is Chilton. Max Chilton. 8-)

He was .007 behind Bianchi in FP3.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 07 Jun 2014, 15:49

GutSquared requires a chassis swap, so he's out of qualifying.
GJ.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 07 Jun 2014, 16:51

With Gutierrez gone, I predict the back of the grid will look something like this;

17th Sutil
18th Chilton
19th Bianchi
20th Ericsson
21st Kobayashi
22nd Gutierrez

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 07 Jun 2014, 17:14

Chilton on course for Q2 as Perez spins.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 07 Jun 2014, 17:20

Chilton ahead of Bianchi. Oh dear, Ericsson has his 3rd quali shunt of the season.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 07 Jun 2014, 17:23

Note that Chilton was on his last hot lap of the session when Ericsson crashed - he wasn't that far away from the cut-off.

I smell a conspiracy over at Caterham! :lol:

SgtPepper · Post by **SgtPepper** » 07 Jun 2014, 17:45

God I hope this pace from Williams is real

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 07 Jun 2014, 18:04

There goes the friendship. .

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 07 Jun 2014, 18:07

Hamilton will be very frustrated with himself after that mistake, he was ahead of Rosberg for most of the weekend but was behind when it mattered. Surprised to see the Red Bulls right with the Williams. And of course my prediction of Kevin being on pole faltered

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 07 Jun 2014, 19:21

Oh dear, Caterham is almost 1s behind Marussia.

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 07 Jun 2014, 19:32

That's the first time Hamilton's ever been out-qualified by his team-mate at this track. Admittedly Button and Kovalainen were never exactly star qualifiers but when people say that it's Lewis's track I truly understand now. To paraphrase Jonathan Legard, if Rosberg beats Hamilton tomorrow, there's gonna be "all sorts of problems there"...or should it be "that's going to end in tears"

Post by **Londoner** » 07 Jun 2014, 20:20

Pastor, please stop being an idiot and show the casuals that you're actually a great driver.

Just seen footage of Gutierrez's crash. I just...I just...why?

Post by **mario** » 07 Jun 2014, 20:49

good_Ralf wrote:Hamilton will be very frustrated with himself after that mistake, he was ahead of Rosberg for most of the weekend but was behind when it mattered. Surprised to see the Red Bulls right with the Williams. And of course my prediction of Kevin being on pole faltered

Vettel's final lap was a big surprise given that both Williams drivers had looked like they had an edge over a single lap compared to Vettel - Vettel himself has admitted that he was taking a lot more risks than he would normally, and it looks like they paid off.

In fact, Vettel must have been flying through the corners because Massa and Bottas were both substantially quicker in the speed traps - Massa was the fastest driver at each sector timing beam and had a fairly consistent 10kph straight line speed advantage over Vettel, whilst down the back straight Massa was second fastest and had a 12kph speed advantage over Vettel. Bottas, meanwhile, was only fractionally slower than Massa and also had a similar straight line speed advantage over Vettel - the RB10 chassis is certainly not lacking if they can make that much time up around the rest of the lap.
That said, if Vettel is having to push that had over a single lap to beat the Williams drivers, I suspect that they might be able to pass him in the race - the fuel use, and possibly the tyre wear, would probably be too high to prevent him from doing that.

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 07 Jun 2014, 23:02

East Londoner wrote:Just seen footage of Gutierrez's crash. I just...I just...why?

Who was that in the commentary box with Crofty?

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 07 Jun 2014, 23:24

eytl wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Just seen footage of Gutierrez's crash. I just...I just...why?

Who was that in the commentary box with Crofty?

It's not Alexander Rossi is it?

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 07 Jun 2014, 23:55

AndreaModa wrote:
eytl wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Just seen footage of Gutierrez's crash. I just...I just...why?

Who was that in the commentary box with Crofty?

It's not Alexander Rossi is it?

It is.

OsellaFA1L · Post by **OsellaFA1L** » 08 Jun 2014, 01:42

SgtPepper wrote:God I hope this pace from Williams is real

Doubt it, it is Williams after all :lol:

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 08 Jun 2014, 01:54

Sorry to burst the bubble guys, but there's a reason why Bianchi popped in his best time early in the session and failed to come out and improve on it.

There was no chance to improve on the second because we had a problem starting the car

ROTQ goes to David Croft for mentioning twice that this was the fourth time Chilton outqualified Bianchi this year, when it's actually 4-3 in Bianchi's favour.

And I've got a helmet ready for the backlash that will come from the forumites for me being a nitpicker and point this out, instead of being ecstatic at Chilton beating his supposedly more-talented teammate.

Post by **Londoner** » 08 Jun 2014, 08:38

wsrgo wrote:Sorry to burst the bubble guys, but there's a reason why Bianchi popped in his best time early in the session and failed to come out and improve on it.

There was no chance to improve on the second because we had a problem starting the car

ROTQ goes to David Croft for mentioning twice that this was the fourth time Chilton outqualified Bianchi this year, when it's actually 4-3 in Bianchi's favour.

And I've got a helmet ready for the backlash that will come from the forumites for me being a nitpicker and point this out, instead of being ecstatic at Chilton beating his supposedly more-talented teammate.

Just because you can't handle the GOAT swag Chilton has, doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us.

Post by **mario** » 08 Jun 2014, 08:53

East Londoner wrote:Pastor, please stop being an idiot and show the casuals that you're actually a great driver.

Just seen footage of Gutierrez's crash. I just...I just...why?

Now you bring it up, the way that Gutierrez lost the car in that corner was a bit strange - normally, you either end up spinning in the first part because you've put a wheel on the grass or end up going into the wall on the exit of the corner because you carried too much speed through the entry phase.

I'm not sure that I can remember a driver crashing into that part of the wall on their own in the way Gutierrez did - and to damage the chassis sufficiently to require a new one to boot just adds insult to injury for Sauber.

On another note, Kobayashi is set to be hit with a five place grid penalty for having to change his gearbox - that said, given how far back he is starting anyway, that's not exactly that much of a blow anyway.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 08 Jun 2014, 09:43

East Londoner wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Sorry to burst the bubble guys, but there's a reason why Bianchi popped in his best time early in the session and failed to come out and improve on it.

There was no chance to improve on the second because we had a problem starting the car

ROTQ goes to David Croft for mentioning twice that this was the fourth time Chilton outqualified Bianchi this year, when it's actually 4-3 in Bianchi's favour.

And I've got a helmet ready for the backlash that will come from the forumites for me being a nitpicker and point this out, instead of being ecstatic at Chilton beating his supposedly more-talented teammate.

Just because you can't handle the GOAT swag Chilton has, doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us.

Talent has more swag than all the other drivers put together.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 08 Jun 2014, 10:26

East Londoner wrote:
wsrgo wrote:Sorry to burst the bubble guys, but there's a reason why Bianchi popped in his best time early in the session and failed to come out and improve on it.

There was no chance to improve on the second because we had a problem starting the car

ROTQ goes to David Croft for mentioning twice that this was the fourth time Chilton outqualified Bianchi this year, when it's actually 4-3 in Bianchi's favour.

And I've got a helmet ready for the backlash that will come from the forumites for me being a nitpicker and point this out, instead of being ecstatic at Chilton beating his supposedly more-talented teammate.

Just because you can't handle the GOAT swag Chilton has, doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us.

Max Chilton is Capra hircus?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 08 Jun 2014, 10:32

mario wrote:Kobayashi is set to be hit with a five place grid penalty for having to change his gearbox - that said, given how far back he is starting anyway, that's not exactly that much of a blow anyway.

Caterham is having an absolutely horrendous weekend so far.

Edit: Chandhok posted an interesting picture, which just makes their situation even worse for the rest of the year:

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 08 Jun 2014, 13:09

Shizuka wrote:Caterham is having an absolutely horrendous weekend so far.

Edit: Chandhok posted an interesting picture, which just makes their situation even worse for the rest of the year:

fixed

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 08 Jun 2014, 13:27

Shizuka wrote:Caterham is having an absolutely horrendous weekend so far.

Now that is an understatement and a half. The cars are a second slower than even the Marussia's which is poor. I suppose the only positive for them is at least they weren't as far off the pace as we thought on Friday (6 to 4 seconds) and some of it might be down to the Renault power but it confirms that there is a long way to go for them

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 08 Jun 2014, 13:36

I wouldn't be surprised if Marussia manages to lap them.

Post by **Miguel98** » 08 Jun 2014, 13:47

Shizuka wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Marussia manages to lap them.

I'm not sure that. Or better, if the cars finish, that might happen. Ericsson has been, well, awful to say at least, and I wouldn't be surprised if he something like Trulli did in 1998 into turn 1. But he will end up crashing. Kobayshi, well, he might finish, but he'll probably bin it because of his frustration.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 08 Jun 2014, 13:50

Does anyone else think of a 'piggybank slot' when looking at the Lotus nose? I have all year.
I keep imagining it something like this;

jackanderton · Post by **jackanderton** » 08 Jun 2014, 14:09

Not too unbelievable having read about their finances.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 08 Jun 2014, 14:49

Red Bull have confirmed on twitter that Adrian Newey will be staying on a multi-year deal

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 08 Jun 2014, 14:52

...with focus on other projects as well, not exclusively focusing on F1!

Post by **mario** » 08 Jun 2014, 16:09

Shizuka wrote:...with focus on other projects as well, not exclusively focusing on F1!

That is the more interesting aspect - Newey is staying on for a good yew years yet, but Autosport are indicating that Newey's role will be as an advisor to the team instead of being directly involved in the day to day activities of the team. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114345

This is going to be an interesting test of the depth and strength of Red Bull's technical department - with Newey scaling back his involvement and Prodromou heading for McLaren, that is a fairly substantial change to the senior ranks of Red Bull's design team. It'll also be interesting to see what Newey decides to focus his attention on - perhaps towards aquatic sports given his love of yachting?

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 08 Jun 2014, 16:41

Shizuka wrote:...with focus on other projects as well, not exclusively focusing on F1!

Perhaps he will stop crashing GT cars and build one to win with. Le Mans is calling.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 08 Jun 2014, 17:20

I hope Canada lives up to its regular reputation for entertaining, and it would be nice if Williams were able to sneak a podium from their good grid slots.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 08 Jun 2014, 17:58

Temperatures are going to go through the roof at the first corner. I can feel it

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 08 Jun 2014, 18:02

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Temperatures are going to go through the roof at the first corner. I can feel it

As long as nobody does a Wurz barrel-roll!

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 08 Jun 2014, 18:04

NOOOOOOO!!!!!! :cry:

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 08 Jun 2014, 18:04

Oops! Caterham will be hoping for a high attrition rate now, with the two Marussias out.

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 08 Jun 2014, 18:05

CHILTON IS GONE OH GOD

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 08 Jun 2014, 18:06

FullMetalJack wrote:NOOOOOOO!!!!!!

I have just screamed that in front of the tv. :cry: