2013 Korean Grand Prix

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 01 Oct 2013, 23:23

So Korea returns again in 2013.

Hopefully we will see an exciting grand prix that is full of drama and a race that is closely fought until the very last lap.

However the total lack of enthusiasm from plenty of people around the globe for this race apart from Red Bull and Vettel tells a very different story. And seeing as Korea hasn't given us a classic (2010 was a fluke) 2013 is hardly going to change things. I think.

Now we all know who has won the championship and Vettel is a totally deserving winner of it. His last 3 wins have been flawless and they is little reason to doubt why he can't make it 3 Korean Gp's in a row and 4 wins on the bounce. Red Bull must hope that Webber can score some good points to hopefully win both titles in India.

Ferrari can only pray that something goes wrong with Vettel's car to even get a win now cause by god they won't win another race on the car's speed. A 4th successive 2nd place for Alonso must be the best he can achieve right now. Massa really needs a strong drive to get a Lotus drive but I can't see it myself.

Both Rosberg and Hamilton were okay in Singapore but must do better in Korea to Get second place for Mercedes. The tyre issue for them could cost them now.

For someone who isn't being paid Raikkonen is actually doing his best. Probably to show alonso what he is facing next year. Grosjean was very unlucky in singapore and if he continues his form he could still go after Massa in the points total.

Mclaren must love di resta at the moment. They are pulling away from FI but are stuck in limbo land. I can't see them getting on the podium this season.

Force India must hate di resta at the moment and surely its make or break for him now. Sutil needs a good race as well to help the team.

Toro Rosso have left it too late to go after 5th now and really are in limbo. It would be nice to see both drivers having strong races though.

The Hulk had another strong race in Singapore and could bring some more points. The pay driver won't of course.

No points for Williams again. That is all.

Caterham are starting to get desperate for that 12th place in a race to finish above Marussia. No rain is predicted for this weekend though so tough on them

Marussia will come last.

So Vettel will win with Alonso Second. Maybe something interesting will happen in the midfield but I have a feeling this race could be more dominant for Vettel than the last one (he wins by a minute this time)

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 02 Oct 2013, 07:24

I just hope there will be a great battle for second place. I can't really see other taking the fight to Vettel at the moment.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 02 Oct 2013, 08:36

It's about that time of year for me to post Red Bull's CGI representation of the track from 2010 :

http://youtu.be/y6OZT8_j944

Let's see how similar it looks this year

Gvozdenovic · Post by **Gvozdenovic** » 02 Oct 2013, 09:03

Well ok, Vettel is favourite and he will probably win championship but things are still nowhere as absolute as they are painted here and in general public. I mean, i wouldn't want you guys on first line of defences in England 1940 or Russia 1941 lolo

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 02 Oct 2013, 09:51

Weather: Could be a wet one. By which I mean, a literal typhoon. Which will either create a classic race OR more likely, give the guys with the red flags some much needed arm exercise.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 02 Oct 2013, 10:00

I wouldn't be surprised if Vettel won here again. He has won the last two and would have won in 2010, barring the engine breaking. I doubt he will win by a minute though, as he hasn't been as dominant in Yeongnam as he has been in Marina Bay. Vettel also broke that curse I found in Singapore where he has never won at a specific track for 3 successive years, so he is certain to do it again in Korea.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 02 Oct 2013, 10:05

Korea 2013 prediction:

Chilton gives a lift to.......Hamilton?

Ben Gilbert · Post by **Ben Gilbert** » 02 Oct 2013, 10:27

rachel1990 wrote:However the total lack of enthusiasm from plenty of people around the globe for this race apart from Red Bull and Vettel tells a very different story. And seeing as Korea hasn't given us a classic (2010 was a fluke) 2013 is hardly going to change things. I think.

So, tell me, which 'classic' races happened in utterly conventional conditions, with no outside influences such as rain, people on the circuit, enormous accidents, or a tense championship battle?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 02 Oct 2013, 11:34

Jocke1 wrote:

Nowadays Piquet would be given at least a race ban for bringing Johannson, Alliout and Arnoux home...

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 02 Oct 2013, 13:39

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26437.html

This could get interesting.......

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 02 Oct 2013, 14:59

Wallio wrote:http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26437.html

This could get interesting.......

If the rain actually shows up unlike the last two times it was supposed to.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 02 Oct 2013, 15:04

Wallio wrote:http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26437.html

This could get interesting.......

I'm not buying it!

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 02 Oct 2013, 15:44

Wallio wrote:http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26437.html

This could get interesting.......

I'm not counting my chickens just yet. Wasn't both Belgium and Italy meant to be wet races as well :roll:

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 02 Oct 2013, 15:45

Shizuka wrote:
Wallio wrote:http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26437.html

This could get interesting.......

I'm not buying it!

We should ban Weather predictions from F1, Look at Japan's 2004 ROTR to find out why

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 02 Oct 2013, 16:01

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:We should ban Weather predictions from F1, Look at Japan's 2004 ROTR to find out why

Seconded.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 02 Oct 2013, 18:45

Jocke1 wrote:

Am I the only one that found this photo ridiculously funny?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 02 Oct 2013, 19:21

rachel1990 wrote:
Wallio wrote:http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns26437.html

This could get interesting.......

I'm not counting my chickens just yet. Wasn't both Belgium and Italy meant to be wet races as well

I thought Singapore was predicted to be wet as well early on. In fact I think this is the first time since 2004 that none of the races have been properly wet, although you have to consider the start (only) in Malaysia. STO again but wet races really contribute to an exciting season of F1. In 2012 there was rain in Malaysia and Brazil already.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 Oct 2013, 08:12

As long as frigging Gangnam Style doesnt make an appearence at any point during the coverage I expect an exciting race for 2nd

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 03 Oct 2013, 08:32

CoopsII wrote:As long as frigging Gangnam Style doesnt make an appearence at any point during the coverage I expect an exciting race for 2nd

Gangnam Style is old news, and nobody cares about PSY anymore. I think we should be safe.

Post by **Londoner** » 03 Oct 2013, 10:04

I think we should just nominate K-Pop as an dishonourable mention for ROTR for being the most vapid and awful music genre to ever exist.

Onto more serious matters, is this one of the races that the BBC are showing live?

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 03 Oct 2013, 10:19

East Londoner wrote:Is this one of the races that the BBC are showing live?

No, only 3 more this year : http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17238688

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 03 Oct 2013, 10:48

Look at this

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 Oct 2013, 11:37

You've got to hand it to Bernie, summoning a Tropical Storm suggests he really wants an exciting race on Sunday.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 03 Oct 2013, 11:38

good_Ralf wrote:Look at this

I'll believe it when the raindrops actually fall on the racing surface. Not before.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 Oct 2013, 11:43

Salamander wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:Look at this

I'll believe it when the raindrops actually fall on the racing surface. Not before.

Quite right as I believe the last FOUR races have had rain predicted for Sunday only for to amount to nothing.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 03 Oct 2013, 13:54

eurobrun wrote:
CoopsII wrote:As long as frigging Gangnam Style doesnt make an appearence at any point during the coverage I expect an exciting race for 2nd

Gangnam Style is old news, and nobody cares about PSY anymore. I think we should be safe.

Whenever i go to a party and Gangnam Style comes on I always shout "Turn that f*****g song off". Gangnam style should be called the Song that must not be named (TSTMNBM)

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 03 Oct 2013, 14:01

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Whenever i go to a party and Gangnam Style comes on I always shout "Turn that f*****g song off". Gangnam style should be called the Song that must not be named (TSTMNBM)

There are many much better contenders for that.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 03 Oct 2013, 14:15

Salamander wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:Look at this

I'll believe it when the raindrops actually fall on the racing surface. Not before.

Exactly, if there will not be any rain again, there will be a huge chance for the weather forecast to take the RotR.

SgtPepper · Post by **SgtPepper** » 04 Oct 2013, 09:27

Crofty read my tweet out in FP1!

Definitely worth staying up till 4am before work for

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 04 Oct 2013, 10:40

So Hamilton was top in both Practice sessions.

Sense of false Hope from Mercedes or will Korea give an expected last Hurrah?

By the way read this (Vettel has led 93% of all laps at Korea) That is frightening

IceG · Post by **IceG** » 04 Oct 2013, 11:07

Watching that last right/left before the finish with the pit-lane entrance on the left scares the heck out of me. Kimi's crash in FP1 there looked very odd and Alonso nearly binned it at the end of FP2 at the same place. Brundell says that the entry to the pits is 130mph.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Oct 2013, 11:39

SgtPepper wrote:Crofty read my tweet out in FP1!

Definitely worth staying up till 4am before work for

Pandawhale.com? What strange websites you find your images of Emma Watson from. Crushable was the last website, wasn't it?

When I was at Kingston University, a group of us were speculation which animal we all most resembled. I was a panda. Miss Watson is clearly not either a panda or a whale.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 04 Oct 2013, 11:50

Marussia will be in last not because of Bianchi who might still be able to keep up with the Caterham guys, but Max Chilton who is little more than Mazzacane.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 04 Oct 2013, 11:51

Onxy Wrecked wrote:Marussia will be in last not because of Bianchi who might still be able to keep up with the Caterham guys, but Max Chilton who is little more than Mazzacane.

FP1 result :

Code: Select all

Pos No.  Name                 Car            Time     +/-    Laps
21   23 Max Chilton       Marussia-Cosworth 1:44.100  4.470  14 
22   22 Rodolfo Gonzalez  Marussia-Cosworth 1:46.810  7.180  10

What does that make Rodolfo Gonzalez then?

Answer : Well funded ...

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 04 Oct 2013, 12:04

eurobrun wrote:
CoopsII wrote:As long as frigging Gangnam Style doesnt make an appearence at any point during the coverage I expect an exciting race for 2nd

Gangnam Style is old news, and nobody cares about PSY anymore. I think we should be safe.

Psy is Korean... It's either him or a bunch of K-Pop girls.

madmark1974 wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:Marussia will be in last not because of Bianchi who might still be able to keep up with the Caterham guys, but Max Chilton who is little more than Mazzacane.

FP1 result :
Code: Select all
Pos No.  Name                 Car            Time     +/-    Laps
21   23 Max Chilton       Marussia-Cosworth 1:44.100  4.470  14 
22   22 Rodolfo Gonzalez  Marussia-Cosworth 1:46.810  7.180  10 
What does that make Rodolfo Gonzalez then?

Answer : Well funded ...

Finally, we found a driver worse than Chilton. I bet Gonzalez will be as good as Chilton given enough track time as I am sure Bianchi was that much faster than Chilton in preseason testing.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 04 Oct 2013, 12:06

Onxy Wrecked wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
CoopsII wrote:As long as frigging Gangnam Style doesnt make an appearence at any point during the coverage I expect an exciting race for 2nd

Gangnam Style is old news, and nobody cares about PSY anymore. I think we should be safe.

Psy is Korean... It's either him or a bunch of K-Pop girls.
madmark1974 wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:... but Max Chilton who is little more than Mazzacane.

FP1 result :
Code: Select all
Pos No.  Name                 Car            Time     +/-    Laps
21   23 Max Chilton       Marussia-Cosworth 1:44.100  4.470  14 
22   22 Rodolfo Gonzalez  Marussia-Cosworth 1:46.810  7.180  10 
What does that make Rodolfo Gonzalez then?

Answer : Well funded ...
Finally, we found a driver worse than Chilton.

What about Yuji Ide? Chanoch Nissany? Al Pease?

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 04 Oct 2013, 12:19

dr-baker wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:
Finally, we found a driver worse than Chilton.

What about Yuji Ide? Chanoch Nissany? Al Pease?

Yuji Ide might be but then the superlicense being pulled is proof he was erratic, slow, or both.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 04 Oct 2013, 12:25

From the 'pedia, about Mr. Gonzalez :

After previously competing in karting, González raced in the 2003 Formula Renault 2.0 UK Winter Series, before racing in the main series in 2004 and 2005 while attending City College Norwich.

He is now my favourite driver

SgtPepper · Post by **SgtPepper** » 04 Oct 2013, 12:43

dr-baker wrote:
SgtPepper wrote:Crofty read my tweet out in FP1!

Definitely worth staying up till 4am before work for

Pandawhale.com? What strange websites you find your images of Emma Watson from. Crushable was the last website, wasn't it?

When I was at Kingston University, a group of us were speculation which animal we all most resembled. I was a panda. Miss Watson is clearly not either a panda or a whale.

How do you resemble a panda? And yes Pandawhale is an extremely odd sounding website, I just google different Emma gifs/images, and am always too lost in her perfection to notice where they're from.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 04 Oct 2013, 12:46

FP2 brought out a very Noah's Ark-ish result.

It seemed that Mercedes and Red Bull were a league above Ferrari and Lotus, then came McLaren and Force India, followed by perfectly lined Saubers, STRs, Williamses, Caterhams and Marussias. Frightening.