The Sportscar and Endurance Thread

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 01 Aug 2013, 09:10

go_Rubens wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:
Faustus wrote:Adrian Sutil to drive a factory Porsche LMP1 in 2014, apparently.

Will he be Webber's teammate? It's sad if he is leaving F1.

Any reliable source?

Graham Goodwin from DailySportscar.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 01 Aug 2013, 09:14

go_Rubens wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:
Faustus wrote:Adrian Sutil to drive a factory Porsche LMP1 in 2014, apparently.

Will he be Webber's teammate? It's sad if he is leaving F1.

Any reliable source?

It's Faustus. He has more connections in the paddock than a Facebook celebrity

Post by **mario** » 01 Aug 2013, 14:13

good_Ralf wrote:
Faustus wrote:Adrian Sutil to drive a factory Porsche LMP1 in 2014, apparently.

Will he be Webber's teammate? It's sad if he is leaving F1.

It is an interesting suggestion - I wonder whether Sutil is making the decision of his own free choice, or whether he is being edged out of the team in favour of somebody else (perhaps a driver from Mercedes's Young Driver program given that those two teams seem to be set for a fairly long term working relationship)?

good_Ralf, I would assume that, if it is true that Sutil is heading for Porsche, the more likely scenario would be for Porsche to put Sutil into one three man team and Webber in the other, with the remainder of the team being formed from sportscar veterans (and in Jani, Dumas and Bernhard, they have already picked up three quite experienced and competitive sportscar drivers). It'd make more sense to let those inexperienced drivers gain knowledge from two veterans within each team rather than just one.

Speaking of a crossover between F1 and sportscars, there is an interesting suggestion from Auto Motor und Sport that Ferrari are considering returning to the prototype classes at Le Mans with their turbo engine and potentially even a full blown works LMP1 team. Renault Sport have already hinted, according to Racecar Engineering, that they'd sell engines to customers in the LMP1 class, but AMuS are suggesting that Ferrari are planning a works team to utilise the spare capacity in their wind tunnel and to use the LMP1 car as a testbed for their engine.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/moto ... 19825.html

Amid a few rumours concerning the weakness of the Ferrari engine for 2014 (James Allen is reporting that, according to his sources, Ferrari have the least powerful engine (with Mercedes thought to have the strongest engine and Renault between the two)), being able to develop your engine outside of F1 and then bring those development across to the works F1 team would be a good way around the development restrictions.
I can also foresee the ACO being rather pleased about that bit of news if it does indeed come to pass - the prospect of having two premium manufacturers (Porsche and Ferrari) with works teams would raise the profile of sportscar racing quite a bit.

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 05 Aug 2013, 01:06

good_Ralf wrote:Has anyone mentioned the fact that Robert Wickens scored his first win in DTM from pole at the Norisring yesterday?

Which he then lost!

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 05 Aug 2013, 13:53

Myrvold wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:Has anyone mentioned the fact that Robert Wickens scored his first win in DTM from pole at the Norisring yesterday?

Which he then lost!

Robert Wickens = Wasted F1 Talent

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 07 Aug 2013, 00:06

good_Ralf wrote:Daniel Juncadella = Wasted F1 Talent

Fixed

Both of them are wasted F1 talents, really.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 07 Aug 2013, 02:16

mario wrote:Amid a few rumours concerning the weakness of the Ferrari engine for 2014 (James Allen is reporting that, according to his sources, Ferrari have the least powerful engine (with Mercedes thought to have the strongest engine and Renault between the two)), being able to develop your engine outside of F1 and then bring those development across to the works F1 team would be a good way around the development restrictions.

Do you have a link to the JA report?

Post by **mario** » 07 Aug 2013, 06:34

wsrgo wrote:
mario wrote:Amid a few rumours concerning the weakness of the Ferrari engine for 2014 (James Allen is reporting that, according to his sources, Ferrari have the least powerful engine (with Mercedes thought to have the strongest engine and Renault between the two)), being able to develop your engine outside of F1 and then bring those development across to the works F1 team would be a good way around the development restrictions.

Do you have a link to the JA report?

It was a passing comment that he made in this article on Alonso's interest in Red Bull when he talks about Alonso's prospects for 2014 if he stays with Ferrari, even with Allison moving to the team.

There are question marks about how potent the Ferrari powertrain will be for 2013. Industry insight puts Mercedes ahead of Renault with Ferrari behind. Allison and his clever aerodynamics may not be enough.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/07/w ... -red-bull/

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 07 Aug 2013, 10:07

mario wrote:
wsrgo wrote:
mario wrote:Amid a few rumours concerning the weakness of the Ferrari engine for 2014 (James Allen is reporting that, according to his sources, Ferrari have the least powerful engine (with Mercedes thought to have the strongest engine and Renault between the two)), being able to develop your engine outside of F1 and then bring those development across to the works F1 team would be a good way around the development restrictions.

Do you have a link to the JA report?

It was a passing comment that he made in this article on Alonso's interest in Red Bull when he talks about Alonso's prospects for 2014 if he stays with Ferrari, even with Allison moving to the team.
There are question marks about how potent the Ferrari powertrain will be for 2013. Industry insight puts Mercedes ahead of Renault with Ferrari behind. Allison and his clever aerodynamics may not be enough.

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/07/w ... -red-bull/

Okay, thanks a lot!!!

Post by **Londoner** » 13 Aug 2013, 09:53

Seems legit.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 13 Aug 2013, 09:56

East Londoner wrote:Seems legit.

Mamma mia. That is crazy.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 13 Aug 2013, 14:30

This is beyond of Rejects. :lol:

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 13 Aug 2013, 16:32

Reminds me of the time when another celebrity (don't remember who) tried to setup a team in 125cc... with a pink motorcycle :lol:

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 13 Aug 2013, 16:47

Aerospeed [JerMcC] wrote:Reminds me of the time when another celebrity (don't remember who) tried to setup a team in 125cc... with a pink motorcycle

That was Paris Hilton. I don't know what happened to that team...

Post by **Ataxia** » 13 Aug 2013, 16:56

AndreaModa wrote:
Aerospeed [JerMcC] wrote:Reminds me of the time when another celebrity (don't remember who) tried to setup a team in 125cc... with a pink motorcycle

That was Paris Hilton. I don't know what happened to that team...

Surprised she didn't make some MTV 'documentary' about it...actually, I'm not, because it's actually interesting.

Anyway, you know you're not on for many points when the principal gets ridden more than the bikes...

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 13 Aug 2013, 17:27

AndreaModa wrote:
Aerospeed [JerMcC] wrote:Reminds me of the time when another celebrity (don't remember who) tried to setup a team in 125cc... with a pink motorcycle

That was Paris Hilton. I don't know what happened to that team...

They won four races and got six more podiums in one season. Not a bad record.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 13 Aug 2013, 17:49

Ataxia wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:That was Paris Hilton. I don't know what happened to that team...

Surprised she didn't make some MTV 'documentary' about it...actually, I'm not, because it's actually interesting.

Anyway, you know you're not on for many points when the principal gets ridden more than the bikes...

classic

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 13 Aug 2013, 19:49

good_Ralf wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Seems legit.

Mamma mia. That is crazy.

Hope it doesn't go tits up...

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 13 Aug 2013, 20:43

dr-baker wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Seems legit.

Mamma mia. That is crazy.

Hope it doesn't go tits up...

I reckon she likes a nice big exhaust…

watka · Post by **watka** » 13 Aug 2013, 23:02

I never realised Pamela Anderson was Canadian.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 14 Aug 2013, 15:31

watka wrote:I never realised Pamela Anderson was Canadian.

I used to think Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Leslie Nielsen were all American but as I found out...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 14 Aug 2013, 18:01

good_Ralf wrote:
watka wrote:I never realised Pamela Anderson was Canadian.

I used to think Michael J Fox, Jim Carrey and Leslie Nielsen were all American but as I found out...

I think I knew that Jim Carrey and Michael J. Fox were Canadian, but certainly not the North American continent's answer to Katie Price...

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 07 Oct 2013, 22:09

I was going through the drivers of this seasons ADAC GT Masters, and I loled when coming upon one particular name...
Enzo Ide. :lol:

Like a mix of Enzo Ferrari and Yuji Ide.
http://www.adac-gt-masters.de/uk/fahrer ... o-ide-3209

He is a Belgian dude, who not only has an amazing name,
he also looks like a BOSS! :lol:

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 07 Oct 2013, 22:17

He looks like Andrea de Adamich.
Ide is 22 and not related to our beloved Yuji. He currently lies 4th in this year's FIA GT championship.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 07 Oct 2013, 22:48

Porsche has got more drivers lined up: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/110427

Post by **Londoner** » 15 Oct 2013, 07:39

Not sure where to put this, but there's been another tragedy in motorsports this week.

RIP Sean Edwards. :cry:

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 15 Oct 2013, 07:48

East Londoner wrote:Not sure where to put this, but there's been another tragedy in motorsports this week.

RIP Sean Edwards.

I feel this needs a separate thread in the EVDP forum.

This is so sad, de Villotta last week, Edwards today..

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 15 Oct 2013, 10:03

East Londoner wrote:Not sure where to put this, but there's been another tragedy in motorsports this week.

RIP Sean Edwards.

Oh no!

He was pretty good when driving a Porsche, so I'm sure he would have landed a seat in a LMP1 sooner or later.

This year is really cursed, with all the fatalities and heavy accidents. We can just thank god that F1 hasn't been hit (so far...) by tragedy. Still, we may need to ask if and how this sport needs to be made safer. But these questions shall be answered at a later date.

watka · Post by **watka** » 15 Oct 2013, 11:18

RIP Sean. One tragedy is bad enough but 2 in a week is just terrible. Let's hope 2013 doesn't become another 2011 in terms of tragedies.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 15 Oct 2013, 14:53

The deaths of Edwards and De Vilota in succesive weeks gives me the eerie comparison to Wheldon and Simoncelli 2 years ago. Tomorrow is 2 years to the day of Wheldon's death and likewise next week with Simoncelli. RIP Sean Edwards a super quick driver with massive talent. He will be sorely missed

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 15 Oct 2013, 16:44

Ferrarist wrote:We can just thank god that F1 hasn't been hit (so far...) by tragedy.

But it has, by Maria de Villota, dying as a result of her crash last year.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 15 Oct 2013, 17:11

RIP.

This is the second death with GT3 cars in this year, first in Le mans, now in Porsche cup.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 15 Oct 2013, 23:07

Rest in Peace Sean Edwards. I thought he was something special. He will be missed.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 17 Oct 2013, 16:01

It's errie to think that just a few months ago I was watching Sean race at Spa. RIP

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 19 Oct 2013, 22:03

Is there anywhere online where you are able to see how much a driver has driven in any one race?
Le Mans, Endurance races, GT races etc...races where there are more than one driver sharing the cockpit.
Rarely have I seen sources providing the number of laps / hours spent in the car divided by driver.
They always just show the final results like this, without individual laps or stats:

There are several series where I'd like to know how much the drivers have driven individually.
Like ADAC GT Masters, Blancpain Endurance Series, Audi R8 LMS, 24h Nürburgring, FIA GT1 World Championship, Le Mans 24h & the Le Mans Series.

Is there a place dedicated to this that I haven't found?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 Oct 2013, 20:41

Just read that Sean Edwards actually appeared in the film Rush, playing the part of his father, Guy Edwards during the (in)famous Nurburgring scene.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 27 Oct 2013, 01:14

dr-baker wrote:Just read that Sean Edwards actually appeared in the film Rush, playing the part of his father, Guy Edwards during the (in)famous Nurburgring scene.

Wow

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 08 Dec 2013, 20:13

And here is the new Audi for 2014:

watka · Post by **watka** » 08 Dec 2013, 23:30

Pretty much the same as the old model then.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 13 Dec 2013, 03:50

Looks the same, but at least I can see some of the changes made for the nee regs. I like how narrow the cars will be next year, and the new safety regs. And the new powertrains for hybrid systems. I will certainly focus on WEC next year.