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shinji wrote:
kostas22 wrote:So, we have the following list of drivers as potential candidates thus far:

Nick Heidfeld
Michael Schumacher
Gary Paffett
Paul di Resta
Robert Kubica
Jacques Villeneuve
HWNSNBM :twisted:


Don't forget the lesser Schumacher.


You might also want to add Kobayashi to the list.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
shinji wrote:
kostas22 wrote:So, we have the following list of drivers as potential candidates thus far:

Nick Heidfeld
Michael Schumacher
Gary Paffett
Paul di Resta
Robert Kubica
Jacques Villeneuve
HWNSNBM :twisted:


Don't forget the lesser Schumacher.


You might also want to add Kobayashi to the list.


You might want to add Kamui Kobayashi to your face.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
shinji wrote:
kostas22 wrote:So, we have the following list of drivers as potential candidates thus far:

Nick Heidfeld
Michael Schumacher
Gary Paffett
Paul di Resta
Robert Kubica
Jacques Villeneuve
HWNSNBM :twisted:


Don't forget the lesser Schumacher.


You might also want to add Kobayashi to the list.


:lol: When I was writing that list, I said to myself to add him to the list. Yet I didn't. My brain is bathplugged up.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:You might also want to add Kobayashi to the list.


You might want to add Kamui Kobayashi to your face.


Your momma wants to add Kamui Kobayashi to her face.
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Klon wrote:
shinji wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:You might also want to add Kobayashi to the list.


You might want to add Kamui Kobayashi to your face.


Your momma wants to add Kamui Kobayashi to her face.



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shinji wrote:Kamui Kobayashi is my momma.


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And according to Autosport, Raikkonen is "willing to consider a seat at Mercedes".
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CarlosFerreira wrote:And according to Autosport, Raikkonen is "willing to consider a seat at Mercedes".


they should bite his hand off.

The big 3 of McLaren, Red Bull & Ferrari all have race winners and/or world champions in every seat. Mercedes are going to take that lot on with Rosberg and Heidfeld?? Not a race win between them?

Kimi should be there, and it would be a good fit and a much better season if he was.
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Chewie wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:And according to Autosport, Raikkonen is "willing to consider a seat at Mercedes".


they should bite his hand off.

The big 3 of McLaren, Red Bull & Ferrari all have race winners and/or world champions in every seat. Mercedes are going to take that lot on with Rosberg and Heidfeld?? Not a race win between them?

Kimi should be there, and it would be a good fit and a much better season if he was.


Well, I'll admit his media/press conference personality would fit into a German team! :lol:
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Chewie wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:And according to Autosport, Raikkonen is "willing to consider a seat at Mercedes".


they should bite his hand off.

The big 3 of McLaren, Red Bull & Ferrari all have race winners and/or world champions in every seat. Mercedes are going to take that lot on with Rosberg and Heidfeld?? Not a race win between them?

Kimi should be there, and it would be a good fit and a much better season if he was.


Agreed, and to be honest the choice between Raikkonen and Heidfeld is a no-brainer.
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Chewie wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:And according to Autosport, Raikkonen is "willing to consider a seat at Mercedes".


they should bite his hand off.


Maybe, but... shouldn't he be biting their hand off? He's showing a total lack of commitment, He needs to be working for the team, not vice versa.

I'd rather have a weaker lineup this year and get Vettel in for 2011.
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Of course, Kimi wants Mercedes to come to him. I can almost hear a "thanks, but no thanks" coming from Brackley right now.

Give it to Klien instead - he's Austrian, so you get someone from the region without looking like the East German All-Stars.
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Captain Hammer wrote:Give it to Klien instead - he's Austrian, so you get someone from the region without looking like the East German All-Stars.


Little problem with that - Klien ain't good enough
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Captain Hammer wrote:Of course, Kimi wants Mercedes to come to him. I can almost hear a "thanks, but no thanks" coming from Brackley right now.

Give it to Klien instead - he's Austrian, so you get someone from the region without looking like the East German All-Stars.


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New silly season headlines: Schummy would be the other Mercedes driver (source: Gazzetta dello Sport).
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It's a straight fight between Michael Schumacher and Nelsinho Piquet! :o
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rffp wrote:New silly season headlines: Schummy would be the other Mercedes driver (source: Gazzetta dello Sport).


Yeah but the Gazzetta dello Sport would protest Ferrari or anyone linked to Ferrari's inoccence even if they had been the ones involved in Spygate and had already been proven guilty...you get the point.
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rffp wrote:New silly season headlines: Schummy would be the other Mercedes driver (source: Gazzetta dello Sport).


Do they know that Schumi is 40 and he isn't willing to return to F1? (Trying to drive for Ferrari this year subbing for Massa was an exception, and I don't think he will do the exception again for Mercedes)
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fondmetal-fond wrote:Heinz Harald Frentzen


How about Bern Schneider? 20 years after...
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rffp wrote:
fondmetal-fond wrote:Heinz Harald Frentzen


How about Bern Schneider? 20 years after...


Or Stirling Moss :mrgreen:
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Phoenix wrote:
rffp wrote:
fondmetal-fond wrote:Heinz Harald Frentzen


How about Bern Schneider? 20 years after...


Or Stirling Moss :mrgreen:


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I'm of the opinion that they'll go for Heidfeld this year and then bring in Vettel in his place in 2011. That is unless they nab Kubica if he is released by Renault. I'm not sure that Mercedes will quite be on the pace in 2010 (I think they could win a couple of race), but they'll be stronger in 2011.
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Kimi would be great, if Brawn can reach a deal on salary. For all of his faults he's a big asset to F1 and we need to see him in a good car.

I'm not sure about this 'all German silver arrows' concept. Do Mercedes marketing really want this? Mercedes are an international company and Teutonic superteam may not be the most positive image for them. But if Mercedes want to do this properly then Schumi is the man, 40 or not.

Kubica driving for Mercedes? Frankly this would not be too popular in his native Poland. I think he still has his eye on Ferrari.

The way that Brawn are managing this at present then I would not be too surprised if they end up with Piquet and Bourdais.
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Ross Prawn wrote:I'm not sure about this 'all German silver arrows' concept. Do Mercedes marketing really want this? Mercedes are an international company and Aryan superteam may not be the most positive image for them.


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You have to think as well that Schumacher brings more than just the driver. You have the "teambuilding" aspect of it as well. Especially with Ross Brawn as well.

It would make sense if he was to do a one year contract to "stabilise" the team and sign, say Vettel for 2011
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Collieafc wrote:You have to think as well that Schumacher brings more than just the driver. You have the "teambuilding" aspect of it as well. Especially with Ross Brawn as well.

It would make sense if he was to do a one year contract to "stabilise" the team and sign, say Vettel for 2011


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Phoenix wrote:
Collieafc wrote:You have to think as well that Schumacher brings more than just the driver. You have the "teambuilding" aspect of it as well. Especially with Ross Brawn as well.

It would make sense if he was to do a one year contract to "stabilise" the team and sign, say Vettel for 2011


We won't see more of MSC in the F1 tracks never ever. We have to accept it.


Eddie Jordan, on the other hand, won't accept it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8368107.stm
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Enrique Bernoldi wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
Collieafc wrote:You have to think as well that Schumacher brings more than just the driver. You have the "teambuilding" aspect of it as well. Especially with Ross Brawn as well.

It would make sense if he was to do a one year contract to "stabilise" the team and sign, say Vettel for 2011


We won't see more of MSC in the F1 tracks never ever. We have to accept it.


Eddie Jordan, on the other hand, won't accept it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8368107.stm


If EJ is right then that would be a disaster for Rosberg's career as he would undoubtedly be forced to play second fiddle. :(
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I don't want to see it. It would be sensational for the sport, be very exciting and give the whole F1 world a real boost, but I don't think he's up to a full-time comeback. It would have worked for a few races with Ferrari, as the original plan was, as he had little to lose and wouldn't have spoiled his legacy whatever happened, given the circumstances. But to take a season or two's Mercedes drive would be letting his heart rule his head to an absurd degree.

However much I might want to see Schumacher race Vettel and Hamilton and co, I think he has to accept he wouldn't be at the level he once was.
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Paul Hayes wrote:I don't want to see it. It would be sensational for the sport, be very exciting and give the whole F1 world a real boost, but I don't think he's up to a full-time comeback. It would have worked for a few races with Ferrari, as the original plan was, as he had little to lose and wouldn't have spoiled his legacy whatever happened, given the circumstances. But to take a season or two's Mercedes drive would be letting his heart rule his head to an absurd degree.

However much I might want to see Schumacher race Vettel and Hamilton and co, I think he has to accept he wouldn't be at the level he once was.

I would like to see it. I think the timing from his point of view would be good. The ban on refuelling looks like it will favour drivers who can manage their tyres better and place less of an emphasis on qualifying. I think Schumi could do very well in this environment. For me, since his retirement only Hamilton and sometimes Vettel have got near the level he was still at at the end of his career.
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A German team stepping out to conquer the world with two blonde haired uber drivers!

Mercedes must be a tad concerned about the marketing potential of that, maybe a more diverse driver pairing might be more palatable!

The British press are probably salivating enough over Hamilton and Button taking on 'Ze Germans', I can almost see the spitfires and Churchill iconagraphy in the reporting; the last thing we need is to give them an excuse to start photoshopping monacles and spiked helmets on the opposition!

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i think they should sign Markus Winkelhock......
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WeirdKerr wrote:i think they should sign Markus Winkelhock......


Finally, sense.

Now, has Rosberg signed up yet?
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CarlosFerreira wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:i think they should sign Markus Winkelhock......


Finally, sense.

Now, has Rosberg signed up yet?


So, we've had first Heidfeld linked to Mercedes, followed by Kimi. Now, we have Schumacher supposedly being brought back in a Niki Lauda style move - but, of course, they want him there as a seat warmer so they can bring Vettel in, according to the latest reports. Frankly, at this rate they'll be linking HWNSNBM to the Mercedes team by the end of the week...
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WeirdKerr wrote:i think they should sign Markus Winkelhock......


Oh, that would cause fury in the DTM, seeing as Markus Winkelhock is a regular with Audi and a possible candidate for a lead drive in 2010. I'd like it... :D
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Chewie wrote:A German team stepping out to conquer the world with two blonde haired uber drivers!

Mercedes must be a tad concerned about the marketing potential of that, maybe a more diverse driver pairing might be more palatable!

The British press are probably salivating enough over Hamilton and Button taking on 'Ze Germans', I can almost see the spitfires and Churchill iconagraphy in the reporting; the last thing we need is to give them an excuse to start photoshopping monacles and spiked helmets on the opposition!

lol


Ive just clicked to your "true" background for that description! :lol:
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mario wrote:Perhaps the only thing which has surprised me is the fact that Mercedes haven't actually told us anything about Rosberg - how long are they signing him to the team might be indicative of the longer term objectives of the Mercedes team.


My best guess is Nico's got a very long name, takes him ages to sign.

Either that, or he's taking writing lessons.
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CarlosFerreira wrote:
mario wrote:Perhaps the only thing which has surprised me is the fact that Mercedes haven't actually told us anything about Rosberg - how long are they signing him to the team might be indicative of the longer term objectives of the Mercedes team.


My best guess is Nico's got a very long name, takes him ages to sign.

Either that, or he's taking writing lessons.


Maybe he's trying to write it in Finnish.
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I thought he was already signed and very signed.
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