The 2012 Unrejectifying Discussion Topic

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 13 May 2012, 14:36

DOSBoot wrote:
eytl wrote:As for all-time unrejectifications by way of a victory, apart from 1950 I can only think of Giancarlo Baghetti and Peter Gethin before Pastor Maldonado, off the top of my head. Anyone come up with any others?

Jaun Manuel Fangio. 1950 Monaco GP.

Someone else at Monaco I believe. Jean-Marie or Jean-something I think.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 13 May 2012, 14:44

DOSBoot wrote:
eytl wrote:As for all-time unrejectifications by way of a victory, apart from 1950 I can only think of Giancarlo Baghetti and Peter Gethin before Pastor Maldonado, off the top of my head. Anyone come up with any others?

Jaun Manuel Fangio. 1950 Monaco GP.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 13 May 2012, 15:10

AdrianSutil wrote:Someone else at Monaco I believe. Jean-Marie or Jean-something I think.

I think you might mean Jean-Pierre Beltoise. But he was already unrejectified by then. Still, it was a brilliant drive from the dude. It was also his only career win, also BRM's last win as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6hGtqOuLJw

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 13 May 2012, 15:17

DOSBoot wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6hGtqOuLJw

Take a close look at that guy at 01:25 :lol:

Isn't he familiar?

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 13 May 2012, 15:21

Shizuka wrote:
DOSBoot wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6hGtqOuLJw

Take a close look at that guy at 01:25 Isn't he familiar?

Anyways, Mike Hailwood at 1:32. "I'm the best crasher in the rain". :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 13 May 2012, 15:57

DOSBoot wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6hGtqOuLJw

Oh my, I had to rewind this thing three times to understand just what Marko was saying, and I am supposed to understand German perfectly. Damn Austrians. :lol:

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 13 May 2012, 17:05

Shadaza wrote:I didn't think it would happen this way but alas, it did and I still win.

Paul di Resta next! Anyone want any lottery predictions?

I'm thinking that Vergne and Senna could unrejectify throughout this season too...

MyHamsterRacedAnOnyx · Post by **MyHamsterRacedAnOnyx** » 13 May 2012, 21:50

AdrianSutil wrote:
DOSBoot wrote:
eytl wrote:As for all-time unrejectifications by way of a victory, apart from 1950 I can only think of Giancarlo Baghetti and Peter Gethin before Pastor Maldonado, off the top of my head. Anyone come up with any others?

What about Jean-Pierre Jabouille? Had he scored any points before he won France '79... Apart from his other win I don't recall him scoring any other points

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 13 May 2012, 22:03

He had scored a 4th place the previous year, so he had barely unrejectified.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 May 2012, 06:36

I can't see anyone else unrejectifying themselves this year except maybe Senna if he stops being crap.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 May 2012, 07:06

Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 14 May 2012, 07:11

AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I'm willing to bet against it on pure merit alone however. Simply because the Force India's about 8th best at most.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 May 2012, 07:32

AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I seriously doubt it, the Force India is not good enough.

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 14 May 2012, 07:34

eytl wrote:As for all-time unrejectifications by way of a victory, apart from 1950 I can only think of Giancarlo Baghetti and Peter Gethin before Pastor Maldonado, off the top of my head. Anyone come up with any others?

Nino Farina, Silverstone 1950
Juan Manuel Fangio, Monaco 1950
Johnnie Parsons, Indy 500 1950
Lee Wallard, Indy 500 1951
Troy Ruttman, Indy 500 1952
Bill Vukovich, Indy 500 1953
Bob Sweikert, Indy 500 1955
Pat Flaherty, Indy 500 1956
Rodger Ward, Indy 500 1959
Giancarlo Baghetii, Reims-Guex 1961
Ludovico Scarfiotti, Monza 1966
Peter Gethin, Monza 1971
Pastor Maldonado, Catalunya 2012

There's a number of near misses - Emerson Fittipaldi, for example, had finished 4th just 3 grands prix before his first win, his only previous points finish.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 May 2012, 08:19

Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I'm willing to bet against it on pure merit alone however. Simply because the Force India's about 8th best at most.

eurobrun wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I seriously doubt it, the Force India is not good enough.

He's good at managing tyres. He's very good in the wet. He's very consistent with lap times. He's not crash happy.

Sorry but I can see it this year. Bahrain remember?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 May 2012, 08:25

AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I'm willing to bet against it on pure merit alone however. Simply because the Force India's about 8th best at most.
eurobrun wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I seriously doubt it, the Force India is not good enough.

He's good at managing tyres. He's very good in the wet. He's very consistent with lap times. He's not crash happy.

Sorry but I can see it this year. Bahrain remember?

I think that Bahrain was the exception rather than the rule.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 14 May 2012, 08:45

AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I'm willing to bet against it on pure merit alone however. Simply because the Force India's about 8th best at most.
eurobrun wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Paul Di Resta next. Spain was a 'blip'. I'll bet serious money he's unrejectified by seasons end.

I seriously doubt it, the Force India is not good enough.

He's good at managing tyres. He's very good in the wet. He's very consistent with lap times. He's not crash happy.

Sorry but I can see it this year. Bahrain remember?

We're not denying he's a good driver, because he is. It's just that he's been saddled with some crappy machinery and will need luck to go his way to get any higher than about 8th on any given weekend.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 May 2012, 08:52

Wizzie wrote:
We're not denying he's a good driver, because he is. It's just that he's been saddled with some crappy machinery and will need luck to go his way to get any higher than about 8th on any given weekend.

Force India have been left well and truly behind Williams and Sauber but I still believe they can recover like last year. Di Resta might take advantage of it.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 14 May 2012, 09:13

The field closes and suddenly the unrejectification criteria doesn't look that bad, in spite of reliability...

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 14 May 2012, 11:31

Ferrim wrote:The field closes and suddenly the unrejectification criteria doesn't look that bad, in spite of reliability...

It's interesting isn't it? I've been thinking the same, that we've recently gone through a period of it being quite difficult to achieve unrejectification, especially last year where you could guarantee the top 5 would be Red Bull, McLaren and Alonso. It's lovely to see different teams able to realistically challenge for good points even though reliability is still very low. Taking yesterday's race for example, only Karthikeyan and Pic retired due to mechanical failure. Perez was out due to that botched stop, and Senna and Schumacher crashed out. Just a shame the back three teams still have no hope of scoring!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 14 May 2012, 11:59

AndreaModa wrote:Just a shame the back three teams still have no hope of scoring!

For all their crapness in qualifying, Caterham's race pace isn't actually that bad so, given some luck, they may be able to take a 9th or 10th somewhere, most likely somewhere like Canada where chaos is almost guaranteed.

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 14 May 2012, 20:12

AndreaModa wrote:Just a shame the back three teams still have no hope of scoring!

The only chance could be a six cars race as Indianapolis 2005.

I'm wondering how would it be a race with just Caterhams, Marussias and HRTs! :roll:

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 14 May 2012, 21:03

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:Just a shame the back three teams still have no hope of scoring!

The only chance could be a six cars race as Indianapolis 2005.
I'm wondering how would it be a race with just Caterhams, Marussias and HRTs!

Kers equiped cars aren't alllowed to race.....

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 May 2012, 21:26

Of the three backmarkers, Caterham's race pace seems fairly competitive. It was nice to see Kovalainen running in P5 for a few laps during the first round of stops, and he wasn't getting mugged either. Their one-lap pace is still 2011-spec mind.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 14 May 2012, 21:26

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:Just a shame the back three teams still have no hope of scoring!

The only chance could be a six cars race as Indianapolis 2005.
I'm wondering how would it be a race with just Caterhams, Marussias and HRTs!

1.- Kovalainen
2.- Petrov
3.- Glock
4.- Pic
5.- de la Rosa
6.- Karthikeyan

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 14 May 2012, 21:28

Phoenix wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:Just a shame the back three teams still have no hope of scoring!

The only chance could be a six cars race as Indianapolis 2005.
I'm wondering how would it be a race with just Caterhams, Marussias and HRTs!

1.- Kovalainen
2.- Petrov
3.- Glock
4.- Pic
5.- de la Rosa
6.- Karthikeyan

As rejectfully awesome as that'd be, it would be the most boring race ever

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 14 May 2012, 21:52

Phoenix wrote:1.- Kovalainen
2.- Petrov
3.- Glock
4.- Pic
5.- de la Rosa
6.- Karthikeyan

So Pic would unrejectify!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 14 May 2012, 21:54

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
Phoenix wrote:1.- Kovalainen
2.- Petrov
3.- Glock
4.- Pic
5.- de la Rosa
6.- Karthikeyan

So Pic would unrejectify!

Pic for World Champion!!

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 14 May 2012, 22:11

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 14 May 2012, 22:22

Who do I think will be the next driver to unrejectify themselves?

Jules Bianchi

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 May 2012, 22:24

kostas22 wrote:Who do I think will be the next driver to unrejectify themselves?

Jules Bianchi

Mr D. Melrose will not like that.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 May 2012, 22:25

kostas22 wrote:Who do I think will be the next driver to unrejectify themselves?

Jules Bianchi

really? I assume you think Massa will be replaced by Bianchi this year yeah?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 14 May 2012, 22:33

AdrianSutil wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Who do I think will be the next driver to unrejectify themselves?

Jules Bianchi

really? I assume you think Massa will be replaced by Bianchi this year yeah?

Yep. I think Perez is Ferrari's first choice to replace Massa mid-season, but Checo is too smart to just abandon ship at Sauber mid-season into a car he's never driven before, whereas I can see Bianchi jumping up and down at the chance to race in F1 for Ferrari. I could see him edging three 6th places before the season is out, the Ferrari isn't that bad at all, it can score good points easily. Wins? Not so much.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 14 May 2012, 22:57

the next person to unrejectify himself will be Luca Badoer

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 14 May 2012, 23:46

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
Phoenix wrote:1.- Kovalainen
2.- Petrov
3.- Glock
4.- Pic
5.- de la Rosa
6.- Karthikeyan

So Pic would unrejectify!

Pic for World Champion!!

Mhm... and what about Karthikeyan for world champion?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 15 May 2012, 10:36

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Mhm... and what about Karthikeyan for world reject champion?

Guaranteed!

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 15 May 2012, 10:51

dr-baker wrote:
Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Mhm... and what about Karthikeyan for world reject champion?

Guaranteed!

I can't avoit to think that Karthy should be a honourary reject!

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 15 May 2012, 22:39

This wrote:the next person to unrejectify himself will be Luca Badoer

WTH!!!!!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 16 May 2012, 08:45

This wrote:the next person to unrejectify himself will be Dries van der Lof

fixed

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 16 May 2012, 08:49

eurobrun wrote:
This wrote:the next person to unrejectify himself will be Pedro Chaves

fixed

Double fixed.