Most Forgettable Drivers

Irisado · Post by **Irisado** » 28 Aug 2009, 19:09

Frentzen127 wrote:'Tis Aussie drove for Lotus in 1971 and 1972.
Results were as you would expect, particularly in 1972 when he waspartner to Emerson Fittipaldi, espectacular:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Walk ... ing_driver)

Thanks for that. I thought I had the seventies covered (even though they pre-date me), but I had definitely overlooked him.

A brief look through his results though suggests there was nothing memorable about him, so I think he could be a very good candidate for this thread.

Alianora La Canta · Post by **Alianora La Canta** » 28 Aug 2009, 21:07

They do. I run another PhPBB forum elsewhere, and I once set one user's name to filter out to "Douchebag". {thehemogoblin - 18 posts ago}

You can also substitute words for things other than asteriskes (I co-admin a phbPP forum - it'll be in General Admin -> Word Censors if it's the same version as mine), so for example, someone typing "Zsolt" could have it altered to "HWNSNBM" without having to remember how to spell such a long acronym.

Python · Post by **Python** » 04 Sep 2009, 22:32

kostas22 wrote:Christiano Da Matta.

What happened to him after he hit that deer at Road America anyway?

I know he made a full recovery from his accident then did a test for the Grand-Am series on March 20 2008, and basically on his first time being in that car broke the track record he was testing at. A few days later or so at Laguna Seca he teamed with Jimmy Vasser the 1996 CART National Champion for that race and was doing pretty good until Da Matta tossed his cookies in the cockpit of the car during the race because he ate fried chicken and pasta salad sometime before the race and him and Vasser finished 32nd overall.

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 05 Sep 2009, 13:15

How about Johnny Dumfries? I've never heard about that guy until I started to get interested in the 80's. He drove a few races for Lotus alongside Senna didn't he?

And: Martin Donnelly. Even though this was because of certain circumstances...

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 05 Sep 2009, 18:56

mediocre wrote:How about Johnny Dumfries? I've never heard about that guy until I started to get interested in the 80's. He drove a few races for Lotus alongside Senna didn't he?

And: Martin Donnelly. Even though this was because of certain circumstances...

Dumfries is one of the You-Lucky-Bastards.

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 05 Sep 2009, 19:17

Forgettable nevertheless.

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 06 Sep 2009, 15:06

mediocre wrote:
And: Martin Donnelly. Even though this was because of certain circumstances...

No one can forget that horror smash in Jerez!

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 06 Sep 2009, 15:35

To be quite honest, I haven't heard of it until the day before yesterday. I thought he was just a random pay driver Lotus needed because they were actually going down at that time. The I coincidentally spotted it on YouTube and was quite shocked because I thought something like that couldn't happen after Villeneuve's fatal crash.

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 07 Sep 2009, 11:37

Most forgettable drivers for me have to be Ralph Firman and Enrique Bernoldi, who I only ever really remember racing in Formula 3. Likewise Luciano Burti, who would fit into the same bracket had he not had so many huge smashes!

Most forgettable team has to be Midland F1 - I couldn't name anyone who drove for them without looking it up.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 07 Sep 2009, 12:39

Pieman wrote:Most forgettable team has to be Midland F1 - I couldn't name anyone who drove for them without looking it up.

I remember them solely for the fact that they employed Christijan Albers, who would go on to drive off with the fuel hose in Magny-Cours when the team became Spyker, allowing Markus Winkelock to take his place at the next race, and we all know what happened then. That and the fact that their cars looked like McLarens.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 07 Sep 2009, 18:41

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Pieman wrote:Most forgettable team has to be Midland F1 - I couldn't name anyone who drove for them without looking it up.

I remember them solely for the fact that they employed Christijan Albers, who would go on to drive off with the fuel hose in Magny-Cours when the team became Spyker, allowing Markus Winkelock to take his place at the next race, and we all know what happened then. That and the fact that their cars looked like McLarens.

Those Albers' antics happened when the team was named Spyker. Midland is clearly one team that it's easy to forget. For me I can remember few team-mate clashes and Albers's spectacular crash in Imola (thanks Yuji Ide)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Sep 2009, 20:37

Midland is so forgettable I can't even remember Albers' teammate!
Who was it again...hmmm...**** I KNOW THIS ONE!!!!
OMG I REMEMBER NOW! The incredibly boringly consistent Tiago Monteiro!! The only reason he isn't forgettable is because of the Indy 05 Tyre Debacle.
And I also remember they had a buttload of Test Drivers...Winkelhock, Mondini, Sutil, Viso, Premat and so on...

Basko · Post by **Basko** » 07 Sep 2009, 21:32

Slim Borgudd, ex ABBA member. He was in F1 with ATS and Tyrrell between 1981 and 1982.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 09 Sep 2009, 00:00

Basko wrote:Slim Borgudd, ex ABBA member. He was in F1 with ATS and Tyrrell between 1981 and 1982.

For that alone he is unforgettable. Name any other musicians/F1 Drivers/Truck Drivers.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 09 Sep 2009, 17:19

I know its not F1, but Maxi Jazz drove the Pro-Am category of the Porsche Carrera Cup UK.

muttley · Post by **muttley** » 11 Sep 2009, 10:31

kostas22 wrote:I know its not F1, but Maxi Jazz drove the Pro-Am category of the Porsche Carrera Cup UK.

Yes, but unfortunately they got his name wrong and he was called Jazz Maxi :roll:

watka · Post by **watka** » 11 Sep 2009, 21:37

You ever listened to Faithless mate?

"My name is Maxi Jazz and I make no apology for linking my thinking to computer technology".

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 11 Sep 2009, 22:33

I think he meant the Porsche guys called him Jazz Maxi, not his name actually is Jazz Maxi.

muttley · Post by **muttley** » 12 Sep 2009, 00:23

watka wrote:You ever listened to Faithless mate?

"My name is Maxi Jazz and I make no apology for linking my thinking to computer technology".

It was a pun, based on the assonance of Maxi Jazz with Max Jean

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 12 Sep 2009, 00:29

I actually liked Midland and even became somewhat of a supporter of them, just because everyone seemed to love bashing them.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Sep 2009, 01:02

Ferrim wrote:I actually liked Midland and even became somewhat of a supporter of them, just because everyone seemed to love bashing them.

They were a complete joke.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Sep 2009, 11:59

I dunno.
Midland is the sorta team when someone asked me about them, I'd just reply "Meh."
Pretty slow, but not Deletraz slow.

Irisado · Post by **Irisado** » 12 Sep 2009, 22:21

thehemogoblin wrote:They were a complete joke.

No, I can't go along with that I'm afraid. They were just very bland, making them a strong contender for the most forgettable team, but if you want teams which were 'a joke' then Life, Andrea Moda, and Lola (1997) win hands down in my opinion, with no other teams getting a look in.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 13 Sep 2009, 00:29

Irisado wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:They were a complete joke.

No, I can't go along with that I'm afraid. They were just very bland, making them a strong contender for the most forgettable team, but if you want teams which were 'a joke' then Life, Andrea Moda, and Lola (1997) win hands down in my opinion, with no other teams getting a look in.

Those were farces. Midland was just a joke.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 13 Sep 2009, 00:47

John Cannon, Philippe Streiff and Allen Berg

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 13 Sep 2009, 10:10

Streiff was paralysed in F1 accident and that makes him to driver to remember.

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 15 Sep 2009, 20:19

Couple of others I'd forgotten were Cristiano da Matta and Sakon Yamamoto.

watka · Post by **watka** » 15 Sep 2009, 21:21

I think the most forgettable drivers are the ones that have been mentioned more than once in this thread, because they're so forgettable that people have forgotten that they have already been mentioned.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Sep 2009, 21:46

Here's another nobody for you - Renzo Zorzi!

Has Pierluigi Martini been mentioned yet?

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 15 Sep 2009, 21:55

kostas22 wrote:Here's another nobody for you - Renzo Zorzi!

Has Pierluigi Martini been mentioned yet?

Pierluigi Martini... the only driver to lead a GP with a Minardi. That's unforgettable.

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 15 Sep 2009, 21:56

watka wrote:I think the most forgettable drivers are the ones that have been mentioned more than once in this thread, because they're so forgettable that people have forgotten that they have already been mentioned.

Indeed - I'm new here though

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 15 Sep 2009, 22:12

kostas22 wrote:Here's another nobody for you - Renzo Zorzi!

Has Pierluigi Martini been mentioned yet?

I remember Renzo Zorzi, although I have absolutely no idea where from - his name just seems really familiar

Edit: Remembered now (thank you wikipedia!) - his smoking car was the reason a marshall decided to lug a fire extingusher across Kylami circuit, causing the death of Tom Pryce, so he's pretty memorable, for either old F1 fans, or information sluts

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 16 Sep 2009, 17:07

So that's why his name was in my head...I just remembered he was an F1 driver, but not when he was from/who he drove for.

And I'm not old enough to have seen Martini leading for Minardi. I always thought it was Eddie Cheever at the Phoenix GP that lead for Minardi...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 17 Sep 2009, 09:33

It's Phillipe Adams in the Lotus in the mid-1990's I just realised I keep forgetting - did he EVER do anything memorable, in F1 or elsewhere?

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 17 Sep 2009, 11:19

I remember seeing Philippe Adams winning races in an Audi in the Belgian ProCar series in the mid-90s, but haven't heard of him since.

As for Martini, while he was leading his lap wasn't Nigel Mansell reversing having missed his pit box and being disqualified, meaning that nobody saw it?

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 17 Sep 2009, 17:04

Pieman wrote:I remember seeing Philippe Adams winning races in an Audi in the Belgian ProCar series in the mid-90s, but haven't heard of him since.

As for Martini, while he was leading his lap wasn't Nigel Mansell reversing having missed his pit box and being disqualified, meaning that nobody saw it?

I think that pitstop delayed Mansell enought to give Martini the lead. Had the pitstop been normal, Mansell had probably kept the lead.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 17 Sep 2009, 17:07

Are there any others like Tom Jones that no one's discovered yet?

Marty · Post by **Marty** » 29 Sep 2009, 18:09

Christian Klien. I remember two thing about him: Qualifying 6th at the 2005 Brazilian GP in a Red Bull, and nothing. Very anonymous and unexciting overall, not bad.

Also,

Nick Heidfeld, despite being for so long at F1 he's looked permanently average and dull. I don't remember a single outstanding drive by him, at least that wasn't improved or at least matched by his teammate. Podium in Monaco? Webber was there too. Second at Canada 2008? Kubica won. And I could go on and on I think...

Heikki Kovalainen. His first races with Renault were memorable though... for all the wrong reasons. :mrgreen:

Narain Karthikeyan. I do remember he had a massive crash at the 2005 China GP though.
Patrick Friesacher.
Albers. I think he started in the Top 10 once in a Canadian GP. No clue if it was in a Minardi, Spyker or a Midland.
Sakon Yamamoto.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 29 Sep 2009, 18:13

Whoever replaced Giorgio Pantano at Jordan. I dunno who it was, he was that forgettable. Unless said person was Timo Glock, then it wouldn't apply.

Do Test Drivers count? Then I could say Bjorn Wirdheim and Bas Leinders.

Robert Doornbos
Christiano da Matta
Marc Gene

Marty · Post by **Marty** » 29 Sep 2009, 18:18

kostas22 wrote:Whoever replaced Giorgio Pantano at Jordan. I dunno who it was, he was that forgettable. Unless said person was Timo Glock, then it wouldn't apply.

It was.