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The second part of this thread. Regardless of the livery, This is the ugliest non-reject team car design. I would prefer from the 1980's on as before that, the cars were generally ugly before that. But as the 1980's arrived and cars began to be more consistant in shape. What are the ugliest ones that stands out?

I'm sure alot of people will vote for the 2004 Williams FW26, But aside from the nose, the rest of the car was fine. I'm talking overall ugly.

For me, Ferrari still gets a mention, This time with the 1996 Ferrari F310. Especially in contrast with it's predecessor the 1995 Ferrari 412 which was beautifully sleek and clean. The F310 looks like someone decided to model a car after a bathtub and a blowfish. Unbelievable when we see a car which looks like it's in need of liposuction.
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Coloni FC188.
Brick-like and the overall yellow colour didn't really help.
Edit: my bad, this is most definitely a reject.

Ferrari 643.
Ugly square high sidepods and just generally ugly when compare to 640, 641 and 642, which I found very to be very stylish.

Footwork FA12
Weird looking single pylon front wing, huge wheelbase, but a nice looking perfectly round engine air intake.

Pacific PR01
I liked the colour scheme but the car had a lot of right angle and big radii, so it looked boxy.
Edit: again, obviously a reject.

Prost AP03.
Just... weird. Strange sidepods.

Pretty much every car on the grid in 2007 and 2008. Too many protuberances, gurney flaps and wings sticking out of every surface. I hated those cars.
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McLaren MP4/10. A mid-wing on a long engine cover did not help a car that had a bulky appearance anyway. Even worse when Mansell was in it.

Lola T97/30. At least the livery wasn't ugly, but design and lap times were.

Tyrrell 025. Like the Footwork FA12, it had the single pylon front wing arrangement but coupled with the X-wings on the high downforce circuits proved to be an eyesore which unfortunately lent themselves to copies by nearly half the teams in early 1998.

Renault R29. The anvil nose, semi-enclosed rear suspension, plus 2009-spec wings created an ugly beast. Even worse in its colour scheme, which admittedly is unique, and with Piquet.
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The Ferrari F310: Ugly from any direction you look at it. It and the F310B were only competitive because of what a certain M. Schumacher was able to extract out of that Monster on Wheels. Sadly Irvine couldn't do the same
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The AGS JH22 "Periscope" airbox situated at the far end of the engine cowling in 1987.

The Ligier JS5 "Teapot" engine cowling circa 1976.

The WIlliams FW26 "Walrus-nose" back in 2004.

The Arrows A2 "Brick" design in 1979 with wide sidepods and no front wing.

The Spirit 201 from 1983 came armed with a double rear wing.

The Ensign N177 "Step-ladder" nose from 1979.

The engine cover winglet that appeared on the 1995 McLaren MP4/10.

The Tyrrell "X-wing" rear view mirrors on the Tyrrell 025 in 1997.

The March 711 "Ironing board" front wing from 1977.
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I have to disagree with Captain Hammer regarding the Arrows A2 - I think the "Buzzbomb" was one of the best-looking cars of that season, inspite of being fundamentally flawed in its design. But hey, that's part of being in a forum, is being able to disagree!!! ;)

My particular favourites (some already covered in previous threads) - I apologise for including some pre-1980s cars in here, but some were pretty horrific and need to be mentioned:

Copersucar F5 (1977) - the rectangular air intake above the driver's intake was bigger than his head; a bulky and clunky looking car
Ferrari F310 (1996) - everyone has nominated this one, and then Ferrari made it even uglier by raising the nosecone midway through the season!
Ferrari F2004M (2005) - the interim 2005 chassis, with a bulbous nosecone and that awful tea-tray wing, which they kept on the little-better F2005...
Honda RA108 (2008) - the majority of the 2008 cars were extremely ugly, but this took the biscuit with its dumbo/seagull wings sprouting from the nosecone.
Jordan 192 (1992) - an awfully slow car courtesy of its gutless Yamaha engine, but that front wing looked like it had been melted or sat on
Jordan EJ12 (2002) - awful to look at, and it wasn't very quick either...
Lotus 87B (1982) - for its integrated mirrors paired with the Mickey Mouse ear radiator intakes that sprouted either side behind the driver's head
March 711 - for the aforementioned tea-tray front wing
March 721 & 721X - for its snowplow front wing and the mirrors on stilts
McLaren MP4/10 - for that much-vaunted and much-maligned mid-wing.
Spirit 201C (1983) - for impersonating the Toleman T183B with its double rear wing
Toleman T183B (1983-84) - for its double rear wing and the bulky nosecone that doubles as a radiator intake; the car looked like a pig and drove like a pig.
Tyrrell P34 (1976) 6-wheeler - yes, it had 6 wheels and it won at Anderstorp, but was it honestly a good-looking car?

I had a few memories of some of the test and concept cars designed by the non-reject teams - while theses cars didn't do a single racing lap in anger, it is still worth mentioning them while we're on the topic (go to http://www.statsf1.com for more information):

Copersucar 1 (1974) - never more than a windtunnel / test model, but that front wing is pretty special and probably explains why it never went any further...
Ferrari 312-B3 (1973) - as per the Copersucar 1
Ferrari 639 (1988) - the predecessor to the Ferrari 640 and every bit uglier
Williams FW8D - for its 4 wheels at the read, it looked like a truck and the concept was thankfully killed.
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Captain Hammer wrote:The WIlliams FW26 "Walrus-nose" back in 2004.


Really? I liked it! Sabre-tooth tiger in disguise...

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Ugh, it's right up there wit the shark fins and Honda's tested-but-never-raced elephant ears.

Have you noticed how we've given animal names to all these parts?
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Captain Hammer wrote:Ugh, it's right up there wit the shark fins and Honda's tested-but-never-raced elephant ears.

Have you noticed how we've given animal names to all these parts?


You're right there. I remember the first Benetton with raised nose, around 93 (?), everyone called it "shark nose".
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Captain Hammer wrote:Honda's tested-but-never-raced elephant ears.


Is there anyway that I can see pictures of these!?
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AGS JH22, for a different reason than the Periscope. Even amongst the mid-80s crowd its sidepods look like a small plane collided with them prop-first.

Ferrari 312 T6. So somebody thought the FW8D wasn't a looker (And it wasn't, compared to the March 2-4-0 I suppose because it didn't look like it had been formed out of play-doh) but they didn't see this. Dually-style tires don't belong on an F1 car, much less a FERRARI!

McLaren MP4/10. Again, for the midwing. Sort of like a lady who's actually sort of pretty but has this big mole...

BMW Sauber F1.08. Never, ever, ever have I seen an F1 car look so busy. A front wing that looked like it had a zillion elements, the fins right off the nose that looked like Elephant Ears Lite, the horn things off the airbox...why didn't they finish it off and try to give it a midwing and X-wings while they were at it?

Ferrari 310. Another vote, yes, because it just sort of looks...wrong...from every angle.

Kojima KE007. Looked toylike from several angles and kinda OK from others. And I don't even remember it being competitive...

Honorable mention to the Ferrari 312 T5 for its rectangular near-tea-tray front wing and its coffee table body to match.
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Reverie Planetarian wrote:AGS JH22, for a different reason than the Periscope. Even amongst the mid-80s crowd its sidepods look like a small plane collided with them prop-first.


The sidepods were something they were stuck with, since the monocoque design actually came from the 1985 Renault, but laid-up and cured very ineptly. Roberto Moreno said in an interview with Motorsport that he could actually see the front bulkhead twist in cornering.

Reverie Planetarian wrote:BMW Sauber F1.08. Never, ever, ever have I seen an F1 car look so busy. A front wing that looked like it had a zillion elements, the fins right off the nose that looked like Elephant Ears Lite, the horn things off the airbox...why didn't they finish it off and try to give it a midwing and X-wings while they were at it?


That'll be a car that didn't have enough downforce, hence the constant upgrades and extra winglets and gurneys sprouting from every surface.
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I always thought that the Spirit 201C was a nice car but the Toleman TG183B was quite a pretty car, the rear wing just looked like nothing else and looked fairly modern at the time. It was also designed by Rory Byrne and it did do well in the last few races in 1983 with Derek Warwick scoring in the last four races and in the hands of Ayton Senna he got two sixth places before the car was replaced by the TG184.
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minrdi wrote:Tyrrell P34 (1976) 6-wheeler - yes, it had 6 wheels and it won at Anderstorp, but was it honestly a good-looking car?


Oh, it absolutely is. I saw one of them at the Coventry Transport Museum 3 weeks ago and fell in love with it. It's surprising how low to the ground and slimline it is in the circumstances.
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I guess it's one of those "your mileage may vary" cars, to use a TVTrope. I personally really liked the P34 and I loved its concept. That and it'll always remind me of the Asurada series of cars from Cyber Formula...
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Here's some reject cars that never were raced in anger
Lola T95-30
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DAMS GD-01
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And the car that started the Life debacle- the First F189
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March 2-4-0
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Here's Arrows 2001 car in it's Monaco set up
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Hah! The Dywa looks like it was hewn from cardboard!
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Pedro_Diniz wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:Honda's tested-but-never-raced elephant ears.


Is there anyway that I can see pictures of these!?

Maybe. Try going through the archives over at Formula1.com; they were tested on the RA107 at Catalunya mid-season. They were basically a pair of staks that rose up near the front of the nose, and then curved over into a roughly circuilar shape. he top half was painted in keeping with the myearthdream.com logo, but the underside was raw carbon fibre. Honda never found any particular advantage from them, and so they were neer used outside the three-day test period.

EDIT: Found a picture. Just Google "Honda Dumbo ears", and you'll get this:
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Oh, I thought of one more...the Tyrrell 012 Boomerang from 1983. Is it just me, or does Tyrrell race experiments instead of actual racers?...suffice to say it wasn't as glamourous as the X-Wings that actually started a short-lived trend or the love-it-or-hate-it P34. Forward-swept-wings are for jets, not rear downforce elements!
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Reverie Planetarian wrote:Oh, I thought of one more...the Tyrrell 012 Boomerang from 1983. Is it just me, or does Tyrrell race experiments instead of actual racers?...suffice to say it wasn't as glamourous as the X-Wings that actually started a short-lived trend or the love-it-or-hate-it P34. Forward-swept-wings are for jets, not rear downforce elements!


I love that car! The green and black looked great! But you're right, forward-swept rear wings... what the devil was Maurice Philippe thinking? Quite a striking feature, though.
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cant believe nobody has pointed this behemoth out yet......

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WeirdKerr wrote:cant believe nobody has pointed this behemoth out yet......

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It still has a chance at reject.
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Captain Hammer wrote:
Pedro_Diniz wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:Honda's tested-but-never-raced elephant ears.


Is there anyway that I can see pictures of these!?

Maybe. Try going through the archives over at Formula1.com; they were tested on the RA107 at Catalunya mid-season. They were basically a pair of staks that rose up near the front of the nose, and then curved over into a roughly circuilar shape. he top half was painted in keeping with the myearthdream.com logo, but the underside was raw carbon fibre. Honda never found any particular advantage from them, and so they were neer used outside the three-day test period.

EDIT: Found a picture. Just Google "Honda Dumbo ears", and you'll get this:
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Oh, thank you for the find! They look awful. It actually just looks like a rabbit.


Also, that Arrows from Monaco 2001... how was that passed as safe??
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If I Recall correctly, It wasnt, and was banned after the first practice. Or something similar
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There's a pic of 2001 Arrows in Monaco practice.

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Jordan had a bit similar plans:

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[quote="Bleu"]There's a pic of 2001 Arrows in Monaco practice.

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Bleu wrote:Jordan had a bit similar plans:

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I'm surprised nobody has named the OTHER Ligier-car that was ugly as hell.

The sidepodless 1983 JS21:
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Seriously, thats ugly.
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DonTirri wrote:I'm surprised nobody has named the OTHER Ligier-car that was ugly as hell.

The sidepodless 1983 JS21:
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Seriously, thats ugly.


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Yep, the whole 1983 season if i recall correctly.

But yes, it was ugly as bathplug, looks more like a cast-iron Hotwheels car than an F1
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The Brabham BT52 was another car that was an eyesore
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83 was the worst ever year design-wise until 07-08. Almost all eyes were at first basically 82 cars with shortened sidepods and then just.. ugly
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Hey, I liked the BT52. Fair bit good-looking especially considering the company it was in.

Oh, yeah, and the Ligier JS21?
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Life w12 wrote:Here's some reject cars that never were raced in anger
Lola T95-30
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DAMS GD-01
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And the car that started the Life debacle- the First F189
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That Lola just looks slow. Surely they must have had an airbox planned? Looks like they didn't update it much for 1997.

The DAMS looks like a brick. What year was that? 94? 95? Surely they must have looked at the other cars and realised, 'hey, why is our car so fat?'

I've never seen a pic of the FIRST before. Doesn't look so bad really. When Brawn said they'd paint their cars white, yellow and black, I imagined something like that.
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Those wing cars from the early 80s that didn't have a front wing do look kind of strange to me.

And that yellow Surtees livery from the 1970s just looks awfully slow, which it probably was.
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Faustus wrote:Pretty much every car on the grid in 2007 and 2008. Too many protuberances, gurney flaps and wings sticking out of every surface. I hated those cars.

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Apart from the blunt nose, I really liked the look of the Williams FW09B. The engine cover encapsulating the roll bar was a nice touch.

The DAMS effort tested for 1995, but the car was so bad that the idea was scrapped. Looked slow and delivered that promise.
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I remember reading that the DAMS car had an oil line failure as it was being driven down the pit lane and covered some potential sponsors with oil! Could be an apocryphal story, though.
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Oh yes, I remember that monstrosity alright. Only competitive at Long Beach where Jarier could potentially have won the race had he not done the usual and crashed into someone. They didn't even catch it on camera IIRC!!
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