1924 AIACR World Championship

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1924 AIACR World Championship

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Welcome, all of you prospective team owners!

Today is January the 1st, 1924, which means it is finally time for the second AIACR World Championship season for Grand Prix racing to begin. :dance:

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Champions in season 1 were Sunbeam and Dario Resta, the 39-year-old Briton born in Faenza, who had now seemingly won everything there was to win in both America and Europe.

Henry Segrave won the Italian Championship and Tommy Milton the AAA Championship USA.

1923 thread --> https://gprejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8934

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The following factory teams have pulled out of the sport: Ansaldo, Ceirano, Nazzaro, Bianchi, CMN, SIAM, and Ballot
The following factory teams have entered the sport: OM, FAST, SPA, BUC, AGA, Steiger and Vauxhall

The following manufacturers are no longer interested in funding the racing team: Fiat, Elizalde. The managers Novitopoli and DigitDan are (option a) free to keep racing as a factory outfit, but they will receive no money in 1924. (If they have a very successful season, the manufacturer might be interested in restarting funding the team.)

The (option b) they have is cutting ties with their manufacturer and converting their team into a privateer outfit, and selecting a new name for it, which enables them to buy and sell cars in the market, but obviously that means no chance of their manufacturer returning for 1925. Both teams have retained their existing driver contracts and will be able to retain the cars in their garage.

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GAMEPLAY INSTRUCTIONS

As a team owner in this game, your focus will be neither on car development, nor really even on your financial situation. Instead, the most important thing to manage is politics. After all, in a post-WW1 world, bringing your cars to the racetrack may prove to be the most difficult of all challenges!

In this championship, you may wield your political power by making important decisions within your national Automobile Club (AIACR, after all stands for "International Association of International Automobile Clubs") - vote on rulesets, select the race tracks in your countries, decide on political alignments with the powers-that-be, organize boycotts of your rival countries, GP’s and World Championship, and so much more. The more cunning your moves, the better!

To join the game - just post your intention to do so on this thread, state the name of your owner and select whether you wish to manage a factory team (in which case, please state which team) or a privateer (in which case, also state where your team is based).

AVAILABLE TEAMS (LINK)
Teams that say "Free" on the manager tab are available.

Factory teams will always get an annual income on January the 1st. The amount, though, depends on the whims of their factory! Factory teams are not allowed to buy cars, and are only allowed to sell cars at the permission of their factory. On the other hand, privateers start with $1500, are free to base their operations anywhere in the world, but get no annual income. Note that if a privateer does well enough they may be asked by a factory team to become their factory team instead.

Factory teams that do not get a manager will be managed by girry-AI.

Privateer teams will get $1500 of cash but no annual income (other than possible extra funding from their national government if success is achieved). They are able to use any car and get to have their base anywhere in the world. Note that if a privateer does well enough, a struggling factory outfit may ask one to become their factory team instead!

AI-managed privateers might also enter the occasional race.

Word of warning though - the odds are heavily stacked in favour of the factory teams, at least at the beginning of the game!

Car development is automatic and more or less follows the reality (so factory teams will get new shiny cars in their factory automatically - unless the make has a BMW moment & pulls out, of course :sauber:), as does driver skill development. All drivers in the game are real and have realistic talent levels. However, drivers gain experience only by going races (and also improve as they enter their prime / decline as they age and exit it). (There are also ways for privateer teams to develop their cars or even build their own, but it is up for the players to discover how that might happen.)

Driver injuries and deaths will occur through RNG. Hence they are, in fact, fairly likely. So be careful fielding certain IRL famous names too much on the most dangerous circuits of the era - or you might open some sliding doors...

Gameplay is very simple for the team owners. Before each season, there are two phases where you need to make bids, either on this forum thread or through discord. (If you fail to do this, don't worry - your decisions will be AI simulated.) The rest of the season will go through automatically.

Phase 1) Bid on drivers, buy your cars & vote on issues in your Automobile Club

Bidding on drivers is simple - just send a list of drivers & bids you wish to make on in order of priority. The highest bid wins, unless the bid is so small the driver does not wish to accept it, or one of the bids is from his local team, in which case the driver may be more likely to join your team. You can sign unlimited drivers, though after you sign your third driver, the drivers become gradually less likely to accept your bids.

LIST OF AVAILABLE DRIVERS (LINK)

Buying your cars is also simple. Either a) you agree on a fee with a fellow team to buy their old engine and chassis, or b) buy a chassis on the free market - just make your bids; the highest bid wins, this time regardless of nationality.

The issues to vote are subject to change annually. Throughout the season, you will be able to raise issues for the following year - only your imagination (and the AIACR boss’s discretion) is the limit on what you may propose for 1925 and beyond.

In the meantime, here are the 1924 issues all members of the Automobile Clubs will be able to vote for. The option that gets a majority of the votes will win.

1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
a) Adopt the new format (Effects: The calendar gets completely redrawn)
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre
b) 2-litre
c) 1.5-litre

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

GREAT BRITAIN ONLY:
4. Where should the British GP be hosted?
a) Brooklands Outer
b) Brooklands Mountain
c) Ards

ITALY ONLY:
5. Should Fiume be allowed to host a round in the Italian championship from 1925 onwards?
a) Yes
b) No
8. Should the Italian Championship adopt the Formula Libre regulations, effective immediately?
a) Yes
b) Keep the 2 litre regulations for 1924

GERMANY ONLY:
6. Should Germany apply to host a GP in 1925?
a) Yes, Each team pays a fee of $500 to host a GP in 1925
b) No

UNITED STATES ONLY:
7. Should the AAA championship continue to host the races to the World Championship ruleset?
a) Continue with the World Championship ruleset
b) Select an independent ruleset for 1925

This phase will end on February 20.



Phase 2) Select the events you wish to take part in

No team is going be able to take part in every event, so as team owner you will have to prioritize events. To enter events, just select the events where you wish to enter your cars #1, #2, #3 etc. and then enter your drivers accordingly. Your team will proceed to try to enter them if it has money to enter them, and enough teams / drivers to race. (Calendar will be found below this section)

You may also request your driver to PUSH HARD at any selected event, which means a similar boost as a favourite track will be used - but his error proneness will also double!

If a driver crashes out of the race with an accident, their car will have to be sent back to the shop. The cost will be covered by insurance, however the car may have to miss races.

In 1924 there are three championships, with the most prestigious, World Championship events bolded. In addition to the World Championship, there is also the Italian Drivers’ Championship and the AAA Championship in America. If a country hosts enough non championship races, they might also organize a national championship of their own. Each race will be simulated and results posted here and on Discord. A full season will take around 3 to 4 weeks to sim.

This phase will end on February 27.


(Preliminary) SEASON CALENDAR (LINK)

Travel/Entry Costs:
Crossing the Atlantic, USA - United Kingdom, USA - Brazil or Brazil - USA: 45 days, fee: $1000 + $100 per car
Moving the team to a neighbouring country by road network - 4 days. (France and UK, and UK and Ireland are considered neighbouring countries.)
Entry fee for a regular race in home country: $50 per car
Entry fee for a regular race abroad: $100 per car
Entry fee for a World Championship GP: $400 per team

Entry form example (this imaginary team has two cars and three drivers available):
Targa Florio - Car 1 and Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge, B. Stooge (in order of priority)
Circuito di Cremona - Car 1 and Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge, B. Stooge
Grand Prix de France - Car 1 - drivers: B. Stooge, C. Stooge
Gran Premio do San Sebastian - Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge
Beverly Hills Race Autumn - Car 1 and Car 2 - drivers: A. Stooge, B. Stooge, C. Stooge


This imaginary race plan (which, for the record, is *not* financially the smartest race plan - but alas) would incur the total cost of 2*$50 (Targa Florio entry fee) + 2*$50 (Cremona entry fee) + $400 (French GP entry fee) + $100 (San Sebastian entry fee) + $1200 (crossing the Atlantic with two cars) + 2*$100 (Beverly Hills entry fee) = $2100.

Using this race plan with more than two drivers, will help to deal with emergencies. If A. or B. Stooge are injured or dead, they will be replaced by C. Stooge at the French GP and at Beverly Hills - not at the Cremona nor at the San Sebastian, however.


Don’t forget to check the ruleset of the race you are planning to attend! If the car you enter will not comply to the ruleset of the race, you will be disqualified but pay the entry fees anyway.

Rules

World Championship - rules that are set in stone:
To be classified for a World Championship GP, a driver must finish the entire race alone, without relief or a riding mechanic.
To classify for the final standings of the World Championship, a constructor / a driver must start at least two races. Otherwise they will not be classified.
To be classified as a World Championship, the Championship must have at least four events on at least two different continents.
To classify for the World Championship event, the driver must use a car that complies to the pre-agreed rules of the World Championship. Otherwise the car will not be classified for points.

World Championship Rules that are set in stone for 1923 and 1924 but are subject to change for the years after
Only full member countries of AIACR have a right to host a World Championship GP.
The engine capacity must be a maximum of 2000cc (2.0 litres) in size.

Prize money for the World Championship: $25 000 for the winning constructor if a drivers’ championship does not exist, or $12 500 for the constructor if a drivers’ championship exists
Prize money for a World Championship event victory: $10 000

Italian Championship
Prize money for the Italian Championship: $10 000 (if foreign entries are permitted) or $5 000 (if foreign entries are not permitted)

AAA Championship
Prize money for the AAA Championship: $10 000
The engine capacity must be a maximum of 2000cc (2.0 litres) in size.

For the “races abroad” purposes, the ingame countries are the same as the actual 1924 countries.

For home team / home track purposes, countries are treated as a single region - with the following exceptions to make it fairer because the vast majority of drivers are from a handful of countries (so a driver with hometown in France won’t have 800 favourite tracks etc):
- USA is split into the real States
- UK is split into Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Northern England, Midlands and Southern England
- Spain is split into Spain, Basque Country and Catalunya
- France is split into Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Corsica, Southeastern France, Occitanie, Bourgogne-Franche-Comte, Nouvelle-Atlantique, Brittany, Normandy, Haute-de-France, Île-de-France, Northeastern France, Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes and Central France
- Italy is split into Libya, Sardinia, Sicily, Southern Italy, Central Italy, Tuscany, Emilia-Romagna, Northwestern Italy, Lombardy and Southeastern italy
- Germany is split into Bavaria, Southwestern Germany, Northwestern Germany and Eastern Germany

Drivers are more likely to join a team whose headquarters are on the same region as their hometown. They are also more likely to perform better on a track that is located on the same region as their hometown.

Relevant Countries in 1924:
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Here's to a successful 1924 season - and again, any new players are welcome to join the game anytime!
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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I would like to leave Napier in the lurch and instead take over running of Duesenberg please

Duesenberg Driver Bids
  1. Image Louis Chevrolet - $1,500 (+ $500 compensation to Frontenac) - 2 years
  2. Image Alfieri Maserati - $1,500 (+ $500 compensation to Diatto) - 2 years
  3. Image Enzo Ferrari - $1,000 - 2 years
  4. Image Prince Bertrand de Cystria - -$5,000 (2 years)
  5. Image Ernesto Maserati - $1,000 - 2 years
  6. Image Bindo Maserati - $1,000 - 2 years
  7. Image Ettore Maserati - $1,000 - 2 years
  8. Image Pete DePaolo - $500
  9. Image Eddie Hearne - $500
  10. Image Cornelius van Ranst - $500
  11. Image Baron Jean de l'Espée - -$5,000 (2 years)
  12. Image Wade Morton - $100
  13. Image Fred Harder - $100
The first three drivers to accept will drive at Beverly Hills. Also, please stop once we've signed a total of seven drivers.

Duesenberg Votes
1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
a) Adopt the new format (Effects: The calendar gets completely redrawn)
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre
b) 2-litre
c) 1.5-litre

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)


UNITED STATES ONLY:
7. Should the AAA championship continue to host the races to the World Championship ruleset?
a) Continue with the World Championship ruleset
b) Select an independent ruleset for 1925
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Alfa Romeo wishes to pay our condoleances to Signore Campari. He was a great driver, and we will dearly miss him.

With that said, here are our bids for our 4th driver:

1) Tazio Nuvolari (ITA)- $700
2) Rene Thomas (FRA)- $500
3) Dario Resta (GBR)- $1000 + $500 in compensation to Sunbeam
4) Enzo Ferrari (ITA)- $500
5) Alfred Divo (FRA)- $600

Also, Alfa would like to offer $400 to Ralph DePalma to drive for us at this year's Indianapolis 500 alongside monsieur Wagner and Signore Bordino. we will build him an alfa romeo P1 to race.





1924 Votes

1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
a) Adopt the new format (Effects: The calendar gets completely redrawn)
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

Alfa Romeo votes Option B. We don't need no silly gimmicks.


2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre
b) 2-litre
c) 1.5-litre

Alfa Romeo votes B. If it ain't broke, dont fix it.

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)


Alfa Romeo chooses option A. Same reason as no.2.

4. Where should the British GP be hosted?
a) Brooklands Outer
b) Brooklands Mountain
c) Ards

Alfa says brooklands mountain.

5. Should Fiume be allowed to host a round in the Italian championship from 1925 onwards?
a) Yes
b) No

Sure, why not.

6. Should Germany apply to host a GP in 1925?
a) Yes, Each team pays a fee of $500 to host a GP in 1925
b) No

Alfa says yes. More world championship expansion pls.
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Sunbeam has rejected Alfa's request to negotiate with Dario Resta.
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Since Bugatti has signed up both their drivers for 1924, we will leave it as it is.

1924 Votes

1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
a) Adopt the new format (Effects: The calendar gets completely redrawn)
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

Bugatti will opt for Option B - keep it as it is.


2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre
b) 2-litre
c) 1.5-litre

Bugatti will stick with the current format (Option B).

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)


Bugatti will choose Option B.

4. Where should the British GP be hosted?
a) Brooklands Outer
b) Brooklands Mountain
c) Ards

Bugatti will go for the Brooklands Outer for funsies.

5. Should Fiume be allowed to host a round in the Italian championship from 1925 onwards?
a) Yes
b) No

Option B - keep it at Monza.

6. Should Germany apply to host a GP in 1925?
a) Yes, Each team pays a fee of $500 to host a GP in 1925
b) No

Option B - Sure, why not?
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In the meantime, here are the 1924 issues all members of the Automobile Clubs will be able to vote for. The option that gets a majority of the votes will win.

1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
a) Adopt the new format (Effects: The calendar gets completely redrawn)
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre
b) 2-litre
c) 1.5-litre

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

ITALY ONLY:
5. Should Fiume be allowed to host a round in the Italian championship from 1925 onwards?
a) Yes
b) No

8. Should the Italian Championship adopt the Formula Libre regulations, effective immediately?
a) Yes
b) Keep the 2 litre regulations for 1924

Abstain

This phase will end on February 20.


Decisions for Scuderia Porco Rosso:
The current car will be retained.

Enzo Ferrari shall be shot into the sun and replaced with a driver according to these preferences:
  1. Marchese Diego de Sterlich (gib 6k)
  2. Comte Aymo Maggi (gib 6k)
  3. Baronessa Maria Antonietta d'Avanzo (gib 6k)

In addition, Marco Pagot will call upon his blue-blooded friends made during his service in the Great War as one of the top aces of the Royal Italian Air Force, including noted poet, playwright, orator, journalist, and fighter pilot Gabriele d'Annunzio in an attempt to shore up funding for the Scuderia, with the outfit intending to celebrate the Futurist cause through motorsports.
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Alfa Romeo proposes a vote on turning the Italian Championship into a formula Libre championship, effective this year. Az such, we'd also add that, should the italian championship turns to formula libre, that the Targa Florio should be added on the calendar as a championship race
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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The following proposal has been added:

8. Should the Italian Championship adopt the Formula Libre regulations, effective immediately?
a) Yes
b) Keep the 2 litre regulations for 1924


(Only members of the Italian Automobile Union can vote)
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Sunbeam Driver Arrangements - 1924

First Team:

Dario Resta - Under Contract
Henry Segrave - Under Contract
Kenelm Lee Guinness - £126 ($500) - Two Years

Second Team:

Malcolm Campbell - £76 ($300) - One Year
Ernest Eldridge - £76 ($300) - One Year
Clive Gallop - £76 ($300) - One Year,

Sunbeam AIACR vote slip wrote:1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
a) Adopt the new format (Effects: The calendar gets completely redrawn)
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

B. "Continental qualifiers? What the bloody devil is this abstruse, newfangled arrangement? Scrap it!"

2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre
b) 2-litre
c) 1.5-litre

B. "The 2-litre displacement class is quite apparently the displacement standard of the future; any foul, perverse experimentation with other displacements shall invariably result in a wholly unnecessary frustration of the inexorable currents of progress."

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
c) "Any and all winnings should be put in a piggy bank dedicated solely to the repairs of cars by teams that already compete. A new team needs to compete for 25 years before they get access to this repair fund" (Effects: this happens)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

A. "Non-championship races exist to satisfy the dilettantish whims of amateurs; championship events exist to test the mettle of racing men and machines in a grand, cosmic setting, and ought to be compensated accordingly."

GREAT BRITAIN ONLY:
4. Where should the British GP be hosted?
a) Brooklands Outer
b) Brooklands Mountain
c) Ards

A. "Brooklands Outer is an appropriately significant setting for the Premier Grand Prix of the World. Sunbeam further condemns Alfa Romeo and Bugatti for attempts to interfere in matters reserved for the Royal Automobile Club."

ITALY ONLY:
5. Should Fiume be allowed to host a round in the Italian championship from 1925 onwards?
a) Yes
b) No

8. Should the Italian Championship adopt the Formula Libre regulations, effective immediately?
a) Yes
b) Keep the 2 litre regulations for 1924

"Sunbeam regards Alfa Romeo's utterly nonsensical attempt to degrade the proud Italian Championship to the unbecoming fracas of Formula Libre as being solely compelled by unsportsmanlike feelings of jealousy towards the incumbent champion, and a concomitant desire to monopolise the Italian Championship as its captive fiefdom."

"Sunbeam thus calls upon the ACI, and members still in possession of their sense of honour and gentleman-like comportment, to vote against this dastardly motion and preserve the prestige of the Italian Championship. As an affirmation to its good intentions and feelings of friendship toward the great Italian people, Sunbeam offers a one-off stipend of £126 ($500) to each ACI member (excepting Alfa Romeo) to vote to maintain the Italian Championship in concert with World Championship regulations."
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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While Alfa understands some people's concerns about the italian Championship switching to Formula Libre, rest assured, switching to a more open formula isn't motivated by gaining any sort of competitive advantage or perceived Jealousy towards anyone.


We believe that such a switch in regulations would allow for more aspiring Constructors and Gentlemen to participate in events that would be otherwise inaccessible for them. It would also be an excellent platform to experiment with technology and test various innovations that will move the Automobile forward.

It is in the best interest of everyone involved in this great sport and this even greater industry. It's not about now, its about the future.
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ASTON MARTIN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
1. Do not adopt the new format

2. c) 1.5-litre

3. "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events."

4. Brooklands Outer



Now, I wasn't necessarily expecting to be this broke. Somehow we lost $500 over the Winter so I have no idea where that went.

Therefore, while last year we paid Cliff Durant $100 to race for us, this year we're going to have to ask for that money back. Therefore, we are offering Cliff Durant to drive for us under the condition that he pays US $1000.

If he doesn't accept this offer (and if another team doesn't pick him up in the first round of RNG), we'll do a second round offer that he pays us $250. God bless America.
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1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)

UNITED STATES ONLY:
7. Should the AAA championship continue to host the races to the World Championship ruleset?
a) Continue with the World Championship ruleset
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The Sunbeam Motor Car Company has reached an agreement with the Earl of Sandwich, in which, in the fullest spirit of English sportsmanship and fair play, Sunbeam shall extend to the distinguished Earl, and the Bamford and Martin concern which he manages and represents, credit amounting to £252 ($1,000), without any conditions stipulated with respect to the interest or term of repayment.

However, Sunbeam strictly expects that, in the same gentlemanlike spirit, the Earl shall vote in total solidarity with Sunbeam in matters pertaining to the AIACR, the RAC, and all other matters concerning the administration of national and international motor racing where applicable, so long as said credit remains outstanding. Any breach in this mutual expectation shall compel Sunbeam to demand repayment forthwith.
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1924 News: Disappointed with their 1923, Fiat departs the grand prix racing scene.

Their legendary driver Felice Nazzaro has decided to take the team's management in his own hands, taking over the three Fiat's, investing $3000 of his own money and renaming the squad "Scuderia Nazzaro" while attempting to develop the old Fiat cars further.

Meanwhile, the famed orator, poet and public figure Gabriele d'Annunzio has decided to take on management. He takes over 50% of the control Scuderia Porco Rosso and invests $2500 in the team, which shall henceforth be known as Scuderia Tortuga Rosso.

(User Novitopoli has left Fiat/Nazzaro and now manages Gabriele d'Annunzio's half of Tortuga Rosso)
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AI bids

Nazzaro
"$500 Hermann Rützler - 2 years
$500 Enrico Giaccone - 1 year
$100 Nazzaro Tipo 5 Sport
$100 Nazzaro Tipo 5 Sport"

Chiribiri
"$200 Eugenio Silvani - 1 year
$200 Gigi Platé - 1 year"

OM
"$100 Giuseppe Morandi - 3 years
$100 Emilio Materassi - 2 years
-$500 Aymo Maggi - 1 year"

Diatto
"$100 Guido Meregalli - 1 year
$0 Ernesto Maserati - 1 year"

Fast
"$100 Carlo Salamano - 1 year
$0 Mario Lepori - 1 year"

SPA
"-$1000 Diego de Sterlich - 1 year
$0 Gaspare Bona - 1 year
$0 Caberto Conelli - 1 year"

Peugeot
"$500 ""Dribus"" - 2 years
$500 René Thomas - 2 years
$0 Arthur Duray - 1 year
$0 Robert Sénéchal - 1 year
$0 Henry Stoffel - 1 year"

Bignan
"$0 Gaston Delalande - 1 year
$0 Antoine Mourre - 1 year
$0 Robert Benoist - 1 year"

Rolland-Pilain
"$700 Jules Goux - 1 year
$0 Giulio Foresti - 1 year
$0 Albert Guyot - 1 year"

BUC
-$500 Jean de l'Espée - 1 year

Miller
"$300 Earl Cooper - 1 year
$0 Bob McDonogh - 1 year
$0 Jules Ellingboe - 1 year"

Frontenac
"$0 Eddie Hearne - 1 year
$0 Harry Hartz - 1 year
$0 Fred Harder - 1 year
$0 Alfred Moss - 1 year
$0 Bill Hunt - 1 year"

Durant
"-$1000 Cliff Durant - 2 years
-$1000 Peter Kreis - 2 years
$500 Eddie Hearne - 1 year
$0 Jerry Wonderlich - 1 year"

Mercedes
"$1000 Christian Werner - 2 years
$500 Christian Lautenschlager - 1 year
$500 Carlo Masetti - 1 year
$0 Alfred Neubauer - 1 year
$0 Rudolf Caracciola - 1 year"

Benz
"$0 Otto Merz - 1 year
$0 Carl Jörns - 1 year"

Aga
"$100 Jakob Scholl - 1 year
$0 Robert Siercke - 1 year"

Steiger
"$100 Hans Kolb - 1 year
$0 Rudi Caracciola - 1 year"

Napier
"$100 Ernest Eldridge - 1 year"

Vauxhall
"-$500 Louis Zborowski - 1 year"

Bidding will close in roughly 48 hours.
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Team: Österreichische Waffenfabriks Gesellschaft

1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
b) Do not adopt the new format

2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
a) Formula Libre

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)


Further we would like to propose the "Österreichische Rennwagen Meisterschaft", which should be voted on before the start of the 1925 season. If it is permitted, it should be held to Formula Libre standards and start either in 1925 or 1926. The calendar should consist of no less than 2 races and no more than 4 races, with exact locations tbd(Either street circuits or very dangerous mountain circuits come to mind).


Drivers:
we would like to offer 0$ for the season to the following drivers(in order of preference):

Rudolf "Rudi" Caracciola
Alfred Neubauer
Hermann Rützler
Robert Siercke
Otto Merz
Jakob Scholl
Hans Kolb

a max of 3 drivers will be signed from the list
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Automobiles Delâge

We will continue with 1 car this season.

Active Driver Bids (Bid until 1 driver is signed)

René Thomas - $500 - 2 years
Jean Chassagne - $200 - 1 year
Emilio Materassi - $150 - 1 year
André Dubonnet - $0 - 1 year
Ernest Friderich - $0 - 1 year
Jules Moriceau - $0 - 1 year
Albert Guyot - $0 - 1 year

Reserve Driver Bids (Until 1 is signed, do after active bids)

Ernest Friderich - $0 - 1 year
Robert Sénéchal - $0 - 1 year
Edmond Bourlier - $0 - 1 year
Robert Benoist - $0 - 1 year

- - - - - - - -
Questions

1) Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924?... Option B

2) The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards? 2-Litre

3) Should the Prize Money system be adjusted? Option D
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Given as Pete DePaulo is under contract as is, there will be two more spots open in the newly-expanded Packard lineup.

Driver 2:
$150 Arthur Duray - 1 year
$400 Raúl Riganti - 1 year
$150 Christian Werner - 1 year
$100 Enzo Ferrari - 1 year

Driver 3:
-$500 Lora Lawrence Corum
-$500 Louis Zborowski
-$500 Howdy Wilcox
-$500 Fred Comer
-$500 Jerry Wonderlich
-$500 Caberto Conelli
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Martin de Alzaga wishes to remain in european competition for the year of our lord 1924. To that end, he wishes to hire the following drivers as follows:

Privateer (de Alzaga) - 6 drivers
2x $100 Bugatti T29 chassis, $100 Miller 122 chassis
-$1500 Raúl Riganti 2 year
-$1500 Martín de Álzaga 2 year
-$2500 Marchese Diego de Sterlich 1 year
-$1000 Baronessa Maria Antonietta d'Avanzo 1 year
-$2500 Baron Jean de l'Espee 1 year
-$2500 Comte Aymo Maggi 1 year
-$500 Fernand de Vizcaya 1 year
To accomodate these new drivers, de Alzaga wishes to purchase the following cars (in that order and depending on the successful number of hires + 1):
$100 Miller 122 Durant, $200 Itala Hispano-Suiza, $100 Bianchi 18, $70 AGA 6/30 (If N/A swap for Chiribiri Monza)
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Elizalde will remain a factory team representing Spain's automotive industry.
Driver bids:
-Fernand de Vizcaya (100$, 1 year).
-Ignacio Zubizaga (100$, 1 year).
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Voisin bids:
$0 Ernest Friderich
$0 Gaston Delalande
$0 Andre Dubonnet
1 year each
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1924 decisions:

1. Should the Championship adopt a new Championship format in 1924? "Two races in Europe and two in the US will be marked as "Continental qualifiers" - the best manufacturers from each are qualified for the final three races of the world championship, where the Champion is determined as normal"
b) Do not adopt the new format (Effects: The proposed calendar (on the spreadsheet) will take effect)

2. The Championship will run to the 2-litre ruleset until the end of 1924. Which ruleset should the Championship adhere to from 1925 onwards?
b) 2-litre

3. Should the Prize Money system be adjusted?
a) Keep using the the 1923 prize money system
b) "Competing should be purely for the love of it" (Effects: no prize money for anything)
d) "A race that isn't part of a championship pays out for a race win between 1/15th and 1/10th of the championship prize money for the lowest-paying National Championship that season. The exact value is rolled the week before the event to show the irregular payout from non-championship events." (Effects: This happens, the non-championship race entry fees increase by $30)
Three way tie with each option gaining 3 votes each. Because a clear majority was not established, the 1923 prize money system will be retained.

GREAT BRITAIN ONLY:
4. Where should the British GP be hosted?
a) Brooklands Outer

ITALY ONLY:
5. Should Fiume be allowed to host a round in the Italian championship from 1925 onwards?
a) Yes

8. Should the Italian Championship adopt the Formula Libre regulations, effective immediately?
a) Yes

GERMANY ONLY:
6. Should Germany apply to host a GP in 1925? [AI decision]
b) No

UNITED STATES ONLY:
7. Should the AAA championship continue to host the races to the World Championship ruleset?
a) Continue with the World Championship ruleset
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After much debate at the factory, Delage will field a second driver (since we're not contesting the one race in February anyway)

We will ask for the following drivers, bidding until we have 1 driver for the second 2LCV:

Edmond Bourlier - $0 - 1 year
Antoine Mourre - $0 - 1 year
Robert Benoist - $0 - 1 year

In addition, we will ask for the following driver to run a solo run of the Indy 500:

Ira Vail - $0 - Indy 500 Only
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Duesenberg Driver Schedules

  1. Image Alfieri Maserati
    Image Beverly Hills Race - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Circuito del Tigullio - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Targa Florio - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Kansas City Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Altoona Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Syracuse 100 - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image San Joaquin Valley Classic - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Charlotte Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Culver City Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD

    - * -
  2. Image Enzo Ferrari
    Image Beverly Hills Race - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Circuito del Tigullio - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Targa Florio - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Kansas City Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Altoona Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Syracuse 100 - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image San Joaquin Valley Classic - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Charlotte Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Culver City Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD

    - * -
  3. Image Prince Bertrand de Cystria
    Image Indianapolis 500 - Duesenberg 122
    Image Kansas City Race - Duesenberg
    Image Altoona Race - Duesenberg
    Image Syracuse 100 - Duesenberg
    Image San Joaquin Valley Classic - Duesenberg
    Image Charlotte Race - Duesenberg
    Image Culver City Race - Duesenberg

    - * -
  4. Image Ernesto Maserati
    Image Beverly Hills Race - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Indianapolis 500 - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Kansas City Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Altoona Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Syracuse 100 - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image San Joaquin Valley Classic - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Charlotte Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD
    Image Culver City Race - Duesenberg 122 - PUSH HARD

    - * -
  5. Image Bindo Maserati
    Image Circuito del Tigullio - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Targa Florio - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Kansas City Race - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Altoona Race - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Syracuse 100 - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image San Joaquin Valley Classic - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Charlotte Race - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD
    Image Culver City Race - Duesenberg - PUSH HARD

    - * -
  6. Image Eddie Hearne
    Image Indianapolis 500 - Duesenberg 122
    Image Kansas City Race - Duesenberg
    Image Altoona Race - Duesenberg
    Image Syracuse 100 - Duesenberg
    Image San Joaquin Valley Classic - Duesenberg
    Image Charlotte Race - Duesenberg
    Image Culver City Race - Duesenberg
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The failure by Martin de Álzaga to hire additional drivers this season during the initial bidding process has left him shorthanded and so having a lot more cars than the argentine duo can drive he is forced to send some last minute bids:
Howdy Wilcox / $15
Dave Lewis / $10
Herbert Scheel / $5
Andre Morel / $5
Robert Benoist / $5
Depending on how many accept will he put together the teams calendar. All of them are only valid for one year.
In preparation for this year's races and as a show of intent, de Álzaga is also shipping himself off to America with 2 of his cars (the Miller 122, and a Bugatti) and setting up a parallel base in Dayton, OH to take part in the races there and as a possible hook for whatever other American drivers he can attract for the American championship, funds permitting.
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Frentzen127 wrote:The failure by Martin de Álzaga to hire additional drivers this season during the initial bidding process has left him shorthanded and so having a lot more cars than the argentine duo can drive he is forced to send some last minute bids:
Howdy Wilcox / $15
Dave Lewis / $10
Herbert Scheel / $5
Andre Morel / $5
Robert Benoist / $5
Depending on how many accept will he put together the teams calendar. All of them are only valid for one year.


Morel and Benoist have accept the offer.
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With voting now at an end, Sunbeam, having had its well-intentioned overtures with respect to the future of the Italian Championship most rudely rebuffed, recognises that the winds of protectionism are billowing through the halls of international motor sport and shall act correspondingly.

To advance the cause of British motor racing, Sunbeam shall table a proposal, to be voted on by the RAC, for the creation of an RAC National Championship. This proposed championship shall remain in total concert with AIACR World Championship regulations, and shall be comprised of races at Ards Circuit, Phoenix Park, Crystal Palace, Donington Park, and Brooklands, with the current British Grand Prix to additionally count towards National Championship results.
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kevinbotz wrote:With voting now at an end, Sunbeam, having had its well-intentioned overtures with respect to the future of the Italian Championship most rudely rebuffed, recognises that the winds of protectionism are billowing through the halls of international motor sport, and shall act correspondingly.

To advance the cause of British motor racing, Sunbeam shall table a proposal, to be voted on by the RAC, for the creation of an RAC National Championship. This proposed championship shall remain in total concert with AIACR World Championship regulations, and shall be comprised of races at Ards Circuit, Phoenix Park, Crystal Palace, Donington Park, and Brooklands, with the current British Grand Prix to additionally count towards National Championship results.


As we are in the same boat, Delage will support creating this championship, and we urge all other French teams to do the same, lest we end up on the backfoot against the Italians.
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Just before he steps on the boat, Martin de Álzaga sends the following telegram:
TO: HOWDY WILCOX, CRAWFORDSVILLE, IN
NAME IS MARTIN ALZAGA. COMING TO AMERICA W TWO CARS. WILL PAY $80 TO DRIVE IN INDIANAPOLIS. WILL HAVE CHOICE OF CAR (ONE AMERICAN)
REPLY MR IBARGUENGOITIA DAYTON OH
He knocks on the wooden doorframe of the exchange as he steps out.
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Alfa Romeo 1924 Plans


LOUIS WAGNER


Circuito de tigullio- Alfa RLTF
Targa Florio- Alfa RLTF
Circuit Del Belfiorre- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Perugina- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Savio- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Polesine- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di Cremona- Alfa RLTF
BRITISH GP- Alfa P1 (PUSH HARD)
FRENCH GP- Alfa P1
Coppa Montenero- Alfa RLTF
Mugello- Alfa RLTF
ITALIAN GP- Alfa P1 (PUSH HARD)
Gran Premio De san sebastian- Alfa P1
SPANISH GP- Alfa P1
Circuito Del Garda- Alfa RLTF

PIETRO BRODINO

Circuito de tigullio- Alfa RLTF
Targa Florio- Alfa RLTF
Circuit Del Belfiorre- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Perugina- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Savio- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Polesine- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di Cremona- Alfa RLTF
BRITISH GP- Alfa P1 (PUSH HARD)
FRENCH GP- Alfa P1
Coppa Montenero- Alfa RLTF
Mugello- Alfa RLTF
ITALIAN GP- Alfa P1 (PUSH HARD)
Gran Premio De san sebastian- Alfa P1
SPANISH GP- Alfa P1
Circuito Del Garda- Alfa RLTF

ANTONIO ASCARI

Circuito de tigullio- Alfa RLTF
Targa Florio- Alfa RLTF
Circuit Del Belfiorre- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Perugina- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Savio- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Polesine- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di Cremona- Alfa RLTF
Coppa Acerbo- Alfa RLTF
FRENCH GP- Alfa P1
Coppa Montenero- Alfa RLTF
Mugello- Alfa RLTF
ITALIAN GP- Alfa P1 (PUSH HARD)
Gran Premio De san sebastian- Alfa RTLF
Circuito Del Garda- Alfa RLTF

TAZIO NUVOLARI


Circuito de tigullio- Alfa RLTF
Targa Florio- Alfa RLTF
Circuit Del Belfiorre- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Perugina- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Savio- Alfa RLTF
Circuito Del Polesine- Alfa RLTF
Circuito di Cremona- Alfa RLTF
Coppa Acerbo- Alfa RLTF
Coppa Montenero- Alfa P1
Mugello- Alfa RLTF
Gran Premio De san sebastian- Alfa P1
SPANISH GP- Alfa P1
Circuito Del Garda- Alfa RLTF


RALPH DEPALMA

Indianapolis 500- Alfa P1

Alfa will send Mr. DePalma's Alfa P1 by boat on sunday march 16th, to arrive approximately in april 29th. The Alfa P1 is to be immediately sent back to Italy right after the Indianapolis 500 is over.

Also, Alfa Romeo will be traveling to Spain by road through southern France. Just to specify
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Automobiles Delâge Plans
Each Delage 2LCV will be the 1924 spec car with increased horsepower unless otherwise noted.

René Thomas
Circuito del Tigullio - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
Targa Florio - 2LCV - $100
Circuito del Belfiore - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
Coppa della Perugina - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
Circuito del Savio - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
Circuito del Polesine - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
Circuito del Cremona - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
British Grand Prix - 2LCV - $400 PUSH HARD
Coppa Acerbo - 2LCV - $100
Eifelrennen - 2LCV - $100
Grand Prix de France - 2LCV - $400
Coppa Montenero - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
Circuito di Mugello - 2LCV - $100
Gran Premio d'Italia - 2LCV - $400
Gran Premio do San Sebastián - 2LCV - $100
Gran Premio d'España - 2LCV - $400
Circuito del Garda - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD


Ira Vail
Indianapolis 500 - 2LCV - $1500


Edmond Bourlier
Targa Florio - 2LCV (95 HP) - $100
British Grand Prix - 2LCV (95 HP) - $0 PUSH HARD
Eifelrennen - 2LCV - $100
Grand Prix de France - 2LCV - $0
Coppa Montenero - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD
Circuito di Mugello - 2LCV - $100
Gran Premio d'Italia - 2LCV - $0
Gran Premio do San Sebastián - 2LCV - $100
Gran Premio d'España - 2LCV - $0
Circuito del Garda - 2LCV - $100 PUSH HARD

Total fees: $5100
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Aston Martin don't have a driver, and our efforts to get a pay driver kind of failed. Therefore our new driver bids are:

Filippo Sartorio, 1 year, free
Luigi Spinozzi, 1 year, free
Filippo Tassara, 1 year, free
Renato Balestrero, 1 year, free
in that order. Obviously we're only signing one driver, the first one that says yes :D

We are currently praying to all available gods for one of them to sign up with us.

In the meantime while we organise the races we'll attend:

1. Circuito del Tigullio
2. Circuito di Alessandria
3. Targa Florio [PUSH HARD]
4. Circuito del Belfiore
5. Coppa della Perugina
6. Circuito del Savio

Aston Martin will attend all the Italian rounds between April and May because that's basically all we can afford. If we have a massive accident and need to repair, we will pack up and go home.
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Alvis Car & Engineering Company Ltd. plan to make our entry into grand prix racing, with a single example of our well-proven Type 12/50 sporting automobile, before moving to the 1924 specification in August

Driver Bids:
1. John F. Duff (CAN/GBR, 20 Guineas (~ $80.85) )
2. Frank Clement (GBR, 18 Guineas (~ $72.77) )
3. Dr Dudley Benjafield (GBR, 18 Guineas (~ $72.77))


Rounds entered:
Circuito de Alessandria - Duff
British GP - Duff
Junior Car Club 200 (PUSH HARD) - Duff/Clement/Benjafield (Duff and Clement in '24 spec cars)
Grand Prix de l'Ouverture - Duff/Clement

(if our 1923 12/50 is heavily damaged during or after the British GP we will most likely not repair it (and only run two cars for Duff and Clement at the Junior Car Club 200) unless interested parties offer a reasonable price for sale or hire of it once repaired. This car will be available for sale for £POA after the Junior Car Club 200 if in saleable condition regardless)
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Can I take control of Vauxhall Motors please? :)
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Bugatti will contest the following races - which applies for both our drivers Albert Divo and Pierre de Viscaya :
1) Targa Florio
2) British Grand Prix
3) Grand Prix de France
4) Circuito di Mugello
5) Gran Premio d'Italia
6) Grand Prix de l'Ouverture
7 Gran Premio d'España (PUSH HARD)
8) Circuito del Garda
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Vauxhall Motors of Luton, Bedfordshire plan to enter a handful of races in 1924 using their wonderful pair of Vauxhall GPs.

Driver bids:
Alfred James (A.J.) Hancock (GBR), free, 1yr. (Hancock is a Vauxhall General Manager at the Luton plant)
Count Louis Zborowski (POL), -$500, 1yr.
Boyd Robertson Edkins (AUS), free, 1yr.

Schedule:
British Grand Prix
Junior Car Club 200
Grand Prix de l'Ouverture
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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Duesenberg Official Statement wrote:The Duesenberg Brothers Racing Team must report with the heaviest possible heart that three of our drivers and racing car were aboard the Transatlantic vessel that sank en route to Italy for the Targa Florio and a preparatory race.

We mourn three modern great racing figures in Alfieri and Bindo Maserati and Enzo Ferrari.

The Duesenberg Brothers Racing Team today pledges that all of our racing cars will henceforth be painted only in black, to pay respects to our lost drivers.
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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The cargo ship Zovetto indeed sank into the Atlantic Ocean on 17 March 1924 15 miles from the island of Bermuda. With her, three Duesenberg cars, Enzo Ferrari of Modena, and brothers Alfieri & Bindo Maserati of Bologna.

Maria d'Avanzo unfortunately lost her life in her privateer team Tortuga Rosso's Diatto on 26 April as well. She was practising for the Targa Florio in extremely wet weather.
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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I, Nicola Romeo, founder and president of Alfa Romeo Automobiles S.p.A, send my personal congratulations to Signore Raffaele DePalma for a stunning victory at the Indianapolis 500! We knew that, by combining Italy's finest racing machines with the country's finest representative on the new continent, we would achieve something special. This day will be remembered as one of Italy's greatest ever achievements and one of the greatest nights in the history of the sport.


FORZA ITALIA!

Yours truly.

Nicola Romeo.

P.S: Come by our factory in Milan during the off-season!
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Re: 1924 AIACR World Championship

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On behalf of the 1924 French Automobile Grand Prix winner, signore Pietro Bordino, and Alfa Romeo Automobiles S.p.A, it is with strong emotions that I, Nicola Romeo, dedicate this great victory to our fallen compatriotes, signores Enzo Ferrari and the brothers Alfieri and Bindo Maserati, who tragically lost their lives in the sinking of the Zovetto on March 17th of this year. We will send a portion of the winnings to the Maserati and Ferrari families.

Yours truly.

Nicola Romeo.
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