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F1 but it's F-Zero X

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Oh, it's beautiful isn't it!
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For years now Formula 1 has been sitting depressed in the shadow of everyone's favourite racing series, F-Zero X, wondering how the sport can ever reach the heights of that incredible championship. So I'm just going to show you how amazing (or not I have no idea :D ) F1 would be using the F-Zero X points system. The system looks like this for what it's worth.

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No points for FL or Pole.

Notice: if you retire from a race, you get 0 points. This isn't like the American series where you get points for showing up. Instead, you will be rewarded for your consistency in getting to the finish. Therefore, reliable dudes like Nick Heidfeld will find they get a very good advantage from this, whilst the de Cesarises will suffer. Let's see what happens!




List of Driver Champions
1950: Luigi Fagioli
1951: Juan Manuel Fangio
1952: Alberto Ascari
1953: Mike Hawthorn
1954: Juan Manuel Fangio (2)
1955: Juan Manuel Fangio (3)
1956: Jean Behra
1957: Juan Manuel Fangio (4)
1958: Mike Hawthorn (2)
1959: Maurice Trintignant

1960: Bruce McLaren
1961: Phil Hill
1962: Graham Hill
1963: Jim Clark
1964: Richie Ginther
1965: Graham Hill (2)
1966: Jack Brabham
1967: Denny Hulme
1968: Graham Hill (3)
1969: Jackie Stewart

1970: Denny Hulme (2)
1971: Jackie Stewart (2)
1972: Emerson Fittipaldi
1973: Jackie Stewart (3)
1974: Emerson Fittipaldi (2)
1975: Niki Lauda
1976: Jody Scheckter
1977: Niki Lauda (2)
1978: Jacques Laffite
1979: Jody Scheckter (2)

1980: Alan Jones
1981: Carlos Reutemann
1982: Keke Rosberg
1983: Alain Prost
1984: Alain Prost (2)
1985: Alain Prost (3)
1986: Alain Prost (4)
1987: Nelson Piquet
1988: Alain Prost (5)
1989: Alain Prost (6)

1990: Alain Prost (7)
1991: Ayrton Senna
1992: Nigel Mansell
1993: Alain Prost (8)
1994: Damon Hill
1995: Michael Schumacher
1996: Damon Hill (2)
1997: Jean Alesi
1998: Mika Häkkinen
1999: Eddie Irvine

2000: Mika Häkkinen (2)
2001: Michael Schumacher (2)
2002: Michael Schumacher (3)
2003: Michael Schumacher (4)
2004: Michael Schumacher (5)
2005: Fernando Alonso
2006: Fernando Alonso (2)
2007: Fernando Alonso (3)
2008: Lewis Hamilton
2009: Jenson Button

2010: Fernando Alonso (4)
2011: Sebastian Vettel
2012: Fernando Alonso (5)
2013: Sebastian Vettel (2)
2014: Lewis Hamilton (2)
2015: Lewis Hamilton (3)
2016: Nico Rosberg
2017: Lewis Hamilton (4)
2018: Lewis Hamilton (5)
2019: Lewis Hamilton (6)

2020: Lewis Hamilton (7)
2021: Lewis Hamilton (8)
2022: Max Verstappen


List of Constructors Champions
1958: Ferrari
1959: Cooper

1960: Cooper (2)
1961: Ferrari (2)
1962: BRM
1963: Lotus
1964: BRM (2)
1965: Lotus (2)
1966: Cooper (3)
1967: Brabham
1968: Matra
1969: Brabham (2)

1970: March
1971: Tyrrell
1972: McLaren
1973: Lotus (3)
1974: McLaren (2)
1975: Ferrari (3)
1976: Tyrrell (2)
1977: Ferrari (4)
1978: Lotus (4)
1979: Ferrari (5)

1980: Williams
1981: Williams (2)
1982: Williams (3)
1983: Ferrari (6)
1984: McLaren (3)
1985: Ferrari (7)
1986: Williams (4)
1987: Williams (5)
1988: McLaren (4)
1989: McLaren (5)

1990: McLaren (6)
1991: McLaren (7)
1992: Williams (6)
1993: Williams (7)
1994: Williams (8)
1995: Benetton
1996: Williams (9)
1997: Benetton (2)
1998: McLaren (8)
1999: Ferrari (8)

2000: McLaren (9)
2001: Ferrari (9)
2002: Ferrari (10)
2003: Ferrari (11)
2004: Ferrari (12)
2005: Renault
2006: Renault (2)
2007: Ferrari (13)
2008: BMW-Sauber
2009: Brawn

2010: Red Bull
2011: Red Bull (2)
2012: Red Bull (3)
2013: Red Bull (4)
2014: Mercedes
2015: Mercedes (2)
2016: Mercedes (3)
2017: Mercedes (4)
2018: Mercedes (5)
2019: Mercedes (6)

2020: Mercedes (7)
2021: Mercedes (8)
2022: Red-Bull (5)
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1950
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So as you can see already, this season really really REALLY helps those folks who can get their cars to the finish. Johnny Claes who in real life you have to scroll down to find his position in the championship, here jumps up to 6th! Of course, Fangio can win as many races as he wants, but if he doesn't finish the other ones, then he's in no chance of getting a championship.

The 1950 F0 Champion is Luigi Fagioli, who wins without even winning a race!



I should also point out that drivers who make it to 100m before the finish line and don't finish, F-Zero doesn't care, they will not score points. Drivers will not be awarded points for "90% race distance" or any of that crap. They didn't finish, they get no points!
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1980s might be the most interesting era here.
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So one thing I also just noticed is that real-life F1 has drivers getting half-points for shared drives. I'll do the same thing here as it will be an issue in 1951 otherwise.
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1951

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It's incomplete below the top 6, but the front is what interests me mostly and I would get burned out putting in absolutely every entry. But here you have it: Juan Manuel Fangio wins the 1951 F0 Championship, whilst another Luigi, Villoresi almost takes it from him until the end. So many different championship leaders, although the real-life winner wins here too.

See you in 1952!
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1952

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A very strange and disparate season with very few full-time entries. Only six entrants actually finished four races or more, and so by default their points totals took them up to championship contention and the top six. Alan Brown, who scored a 5th and a 6th in the first three rounds, took an unusual championship lead :D

Once again the real-life champion won, and so Alberto Ascari is our 1952 F0 Champion. Farina's career has so far seen him come 2nd, 5th, and 2nd again. Poor dude, he may be without a championship in the end.

See you in 1953 :dance:
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1953

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A solid title defence by Ascari was for nought as Mike Hawthorn was just too damn consistent and stole the title at the last minute. I don't know what 1951 champion Fangio was doing because he wasn't doing well. Get gud Fangio, you're going to need better results than that if you hope to win your real life 5 championships. Why can't we all be more like Louis Rosier? Mike Hawthorn is the 1953 F0 Champion!

See you in 1954!
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1954

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Well at least Fangio is doing well when it actually matters for him. The most dominant season victory so far, mostly because he just put in those top 4 positions every single time. When considering that nobody was realistically doing the 500, he got 96% of the possible points. Fangio wins his second F0 Championship!

Otherwise the biggest mover was actually Maurice Trintignant, whilst champion Mike Hawthorn had a lacklustre defence of his title.

See you in 1955 :dance:
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1955

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Fangio wins again! Not just in terms of winning, but he's doing so well because he's not retiring all the time. Just getting that car to the finish each time paid massive dividends. Once again Trintignant got a great boost from this system, while there was basically no competition against Fangio bar Moss, who is now a thing.

Fangio wins his third championship, and is the 1955 F0 Champion!

See you in 1956 :dance:
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1956

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It was over as quickly as it began. Jean Behra is the 1956 F0 Champion. He got the lead and never relinquished it once, as Fangio and all the others shared far too many drives and lost results as a product of that. Behra on the other hand just kept the car on the road, and even if he didn't win a single race he still brought home that glorious trophy.

Otherwise Paco Godio was the other big winner in this format, as his consistent high finishes bumped him up the order ahead of Castellotti, who was the biggest loser.

See you in 1957 :dance:
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1957

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Fangio wins it almost by default, with Harry Schell being the only other dude to turn up for 7 races that year. It wasn't close at all, and F0 fans were treated to a snooze-fest other than at Silverstone, which at least promised a little variety in the championship standings :P But there we are, Fangio is the 1957 F0 Champion whilst Schell is the biggest winner out of the new formula.

See you in 1958, when things should start getting a little more stable at the front :dance:
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1958

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The last hurrah for Mike Hawthorn before his tragic passing, he dominates the second half of the season to take his second championship. Hawthorn is the 1958 F0 Champion! We had Luigi Musso leading, Harry Schell leading, and even Stirling Moss leading. Folks like Bonnier, Brabham and Schell all zoomed up the order with their regular finishing.

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As well as this, Ferrari also win the very first constructors championship! It's easier to be consistent when you just field five cars :D

See you in 1959 :dance:
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1959

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After leading a few rounds in 1955, he finally gets a full season together, and as a result Maurice Trintignant is the 1959 F0 Champion! Rounding out the decade, he had the consistency whilst championship rival Jack Brabham had the high scores. Stirling Moss turned up once or twice to win but then buzzed off somewhere else who knows.

In terms of winners and losers, it's relatively similar under the new system except for Moss dropping down the table.

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Cooper-Climax win the constructor's championship, and when considering that the Indy 500 did not count towards constructor's, the team really won everything the whole season basically. Good job!

See you in 1960 :dance:
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1960

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Jack Brabham is denied his first two real-life championships, as Bruce McLaren is the 1960 F0 Champion! It was a straight fight between the Kiwi and Innes Ireland. Brabham showed up far too late to make proper in-roads in the championship, then inexplicably pulled out of the Italian Grand Prix when that could have won him the whole season. Oh well, maybe he wins 1966, who knows :D

And for the second year running, Cooper-Climax dominate the constructors to win for a second year in succession.

See you in 1961 :dance:
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1961

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It's the closest championship in F0 history! Whilst Innes Ireland was hit the hardest and dropped out of the order, Giancarlo Baghetti was nowhere to be seen at all! At the front however, it was two Americans who fought to the end to win the USA's first F0 championship. Had Dan Gurney won at home, he would have been champion, but instead by a margin of only six points, Phil Hill is the 1961 F0 Champion!

And I haven't even got started on how close the constructor's championship is:

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See you in 1962 everyone :dance:
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1962

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Phil Hill's defence of his title didn't go to well, because after round 3 he just refused to score any points, and instead let his British counterpart Graham win everything. In fact, Phil's title defence was so bad, he finished behind de Beaufort, who DNQd for a race. Otherwise, Bruce McLaren had yet another strong season, and remains one of the strongest contenders in this series. Graham Hill's title was the most dominant display of anyone ever so far, but 1963 is coming up.

BRM win the constructors.
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1963

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Again, as in every year, the championship is about consistency far more than it is about winning. Moss never learned this, and John Surtees certainly hasn't learned it yet. This time it was he who finished behind de Beaufort, despite the latter again DNQing for a race. Champions Graham Hill and Bruce McLaren again challenged for victory, but this time it was Jim Clark who put in a near-perfect to destroy the competition. I don't think we'll see a championship like this for a long time, with that level of consistency at the front (I shudder to think of what 2002 will look like).

Lotus-Climax naturally destroy the constructors as well.
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1964

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As in real-life, it was a first time champion in 1964. However, in this universe it was Richie Ginther who took it, once again through consistency. Surtees, and especially Hill, had obscenely good pace, but they just couldn't get the car to the end often enough. Same goes for the constructors championship: Ferrari lose the championship to BRM just through their lack of finishes. Therefore neither Clark nor Hill take it, but Ginther does. Good job to the American who had zero retirements all season. This also means that from 1956-1964 we have had a different champion in every single season.
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1965

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It was almost total domination from Graham Hill. In probably the biggest "f*** you" to the F-Zero Championship, Jim Clark completely wiped off his chances of winning in 1965 by just skipping out on the Monaco Grand Prix to flaunt around and "win the Indy 500". Whatever he was doing, we all know that by missing a race you're almost guaranteeing yourself to lose the championship against a more consistent rival.

In the end, he still couldn't have brought back that points deficit regardless, so Graham Hill wins the 1965 F-Zero Championship, the first repeat champion since Mike Hawthorn in 1958. We've had many different champions in this time, it's been a very competitive era.

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See you in 1966 :dance: can Brabham FINALLY win a championship?
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1966

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He does! Brabham, after trying for many many seasons, finally gets a season together to win the F-Zero championship in 1966. It was a low points score for everyone there, so even with the lowest championship haul since Jean Behra, Brabham's wins put him ahead of Rindt, the only other driver to finish as many races. Further down it was pandemonium of similar scores, so the runaway top-six are shown above.

Instead of the real-life BRM, it is actually Cooper who win their first championship since 1960.

See you in 1967 :dance:
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We transported a little further into the future than intended. I have decided in coming back to this series, that I will rewind the clock from the present instead! We have the perhaps unsurprising fact that Max Verstappen won this championship on brute force alone, but his chief rival George Russell ran him scarily close for much of the season with his expert consistency.

The biggest winner by far in this format is Lance Stroll, whose consistent finishing rewarded him greatly. Those that were less reliable, such as Sainz, Tsunoda and the Haas drivers, were relegated much further back than they are in real life.

1. Max Verstappen 1 883
2. George Russell 1 684
3. Sergio Perez 1 638

4. Charles Leclerc 1 629
5. Lewis Hamilton 1 573
6. Carlos Sainz Jr. 1 352
7. Lando Norris 1 279
8. Esteban Ocon 1 235
9. Fernando Alonso 1 007
10. Lance Stroll 953
11. Daniel Ricciardo 944
12. Pierre Gasly 938
13. Sebastian Vettel 922
14. Valtteri Bottas 893
15. Mick Schumacher 812
16. Kevin Magnussen 770
17. Alex Albon 726
18. Zhou Guanyu 724
19. Yuki Tsunoda 715
20. Nicholas Latifi 627
21. Nico Hulkenberg 80
22. Nyck de Vries 58

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One year back now. 2021 had Lewis Hamilton winning it on account of fewer retirements. While further back it doesn't make massive waves, towards the front a retirement or two can kill a championship charge. With Mercedes ultra-mega-hyper-reliability, we may see quite a lot of these Hamilton championships for a while to come!

Sainz was a big winner, while Perez was a big loser. Norris jumped up to fourth in the title, while Ricciardo was actually very close to his teammate and the frontrunners here. Lance Stroll again was a winner while Vettel was a loser. Giovinazzi was the biggest riser while the last few places were a bit Noah's Ark.

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 892
2. Max Verstappen 1 802
3. Carlos Sainz Jr. 1 527

4. Lando Norris 1 457
5. Valtteri Bottas 1 407
6. Charles Leclerc 1 394
7. Sergio Perez 1 386
8. Daniel Ricciardo 1 327
9. Pierre Gasly 1 193
10. Fernando Alonso 1 183
11. Esteban Ocon 1 090
12. Lance Stroll 992
13. Antonio Giovinazzi 933
14. Sebastian Vettel 919
15. Yuki Tsunoda 888
16. Kimi Räikkönen 830
17. George Russell 760
18. Nicholas Latifi 674
19. Mick Schumacher 657
20. Nikita Mazepin 504
21. Robert Kubica 79

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You know it's a dire season for F-Zero racing when Lewis Hamilton wins by over four wins to the nearest non-Mercedes car, and then that car turns out to be none other than Daniel Ricciardo! Ricciardo and Norris jumped up the standings with their excellent reliability, while Perez and the Ferraris dropped down the order for the opposite reason.

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 514
2. Valtteri Bottas 1 310
3. Daniel Ricciardo 1 099

4. Max Verstappen 1 090
5. Lando Norris 1 030
6. Alexander Albon 997
7. Carlos Sainz Jr. 961
8. Sergio Perez 960
9. Charles Leclerc 887
10. Pierre Gasly 862
11. Esteban Ocon 805
12. Sebastian Vettel 804
13. Daniil Kvyat 799
14. Lance Stroll 745
15. Kimi Räikkönen 709
16. Antonio Giovinazzi 586
17. Nicholas Latifi 526
18. George Russell 518
19. Romain Grosjean 475
20. Kevin Magnussen 400
21. Nico Hulkenberg 128
22. Pietro Fittipaldi 62
23. Jack Aitken 35

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Sadly the overall results of this championship were almost exactly the same as the real one. However, Alex Albon was a surprise beneficiary of the new points system, while Daniil Kvyat did surprisingly well (when you think that one-off podium wouldn't have meant so much under this system). A rather dire year for Romain Grosjean, while Lewis and Merc romp to another title.

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 927
2. Valtteri Bottas 1 699
3. Max Verstappen 1 605

4. Charles Leclerc 1 526
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 457
6. Alex Albon 1 202
7. Pierre Gasly 1 123
8. Carlos Sainz Jr. 1 087
9. Sergio Perez 1 062
10. Kimi Räikkönen 990
11. Daniil Kvyat 958
12. Nico Hulkenberg 915
13. Lando Norris 889
14. Lance Stroll 884
15. Daniel Ricciardo 863
16. Antonio Giovinazzi 829
17. Kevin Magnussen 816
18. George Russell 700
19. Robert Kubica 637
20. Romain Grosjean 626

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Just as in real life, it was the closest it would be for a few years, although Hamilton won by over a win by year's end. Valtteri Bottas' season looks a whole lot better here under this points system, while those with terrible reliability look a hell of a lot worse. Especially Ricciardo, whose two wins have not helped him here. Nor so Fernando Alonso! He drops from 11th to 18th in the standings, probably the biggest drop seen in the most recent years.

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 878
2. Sebastian Vettel 1 737
3. Valtteri Bottas 1 565

4. Kimi Räikkönen 1 460
5. Max Verstappen 1 445
6. Carlos Sainz Jr. 1 079
7. Sergio Perez 1 067
8. Daniel Ricciardo 1 061
9. Kevin Magnussen 994
10. Nico Hulkenberg 875
11. Esteban Ocon 872
12. Stoffel Vandoorne 835
13. Charles Leclerc 821
14. Pierre Gasly 819
15. Marcus Ericsson 817
16. Romain Grosjean 789
17. Lance Stroll 766
18. Fernando Alonso 753
19. Sergey Sirotkin 700
20. Brendon Hartley 631

Lewis Hamilton is the 2018 F0 Champion!
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F0 fans were treated to the most exciting season in recent years when the dominant and unbeatable Mercedes drivers came together to fight tooth and nail against one another for the championship. Valtteri Bottas, in his debut season for the team, was so so close in defeating his new teammate, and had the upper hand in all the final rounds. However, it was the metronomic consistency of Lewis Hamilton that again won the day. Force Point Racing India brought an incredible upset to finish third in the championship ahead of Red Bull, with the Bulls just having the worst possible reliability all round. Again the McLarens did not prosper under this points system :facepalm: but Vandoorne beat Alonso at least!

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 796
2. Valtteri Bottas 1 748
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 522

4. Kimi Räikkönen 1 315
5. Esteban Ocon 1 192
6. Daniel Ricciardo 1 187
7. Sergio Perez 1 171
8. Max Verstappen 1 052
9. Felipe Massa 969
10. Romain Grosjean 872
11. Lance Stroll 778
12. Kevin Magnussen 743
13. Nico Hulkenberg 740
14. Carlos Sainz Jr. 739
15. Stoffel Vandoorne 679
16. Pascal Wehrlein 627
17. Jolyon Palmer 523
18. Marcus Ericsson 515
19. Daniil Kvyat 481
20. Fernando Alonso 450
21. Pierre Gasly 211
22. Brendon Hartley 82
23. Antonio Giovinazzi 47
24. Jenson Button 0
25. Paul di Resta 0

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It happened! Against all the odds, someone beat Lewis Hamilton in equal machinery ;) not just in Formula 1, but in Formula 0 too. While Daniel Ricciardo has to make do with probably the most impressive season of anyone yet to still not be within a hope in hell's chance of winning the championship, Rosberg's final year ends much in the same way as the real one did, albeit with a much bigger advantage for Rosberg caused by that Kurbelwellenlager.

Although Mercedes reaped all the rewards just as in real life, the battle here from 13th downwards is incredible. #justiceforgutierrez would be trending on Twitter if the season had ended like this!

1. Nico Rosberg 1 843
2. Lewis Hamilton 1 769
3. Daniel Ricciardo 1 681

4. Max Verstappen 1 401
5. Sebastian Vettel 1 384
6. Kimi Räikkönen 1 325
7. Sergio Perez 1 247
8. Valtteri Bottas 1 161
9. Felipe Massa 979
10. Nico Hulkenberg 976
11. Carlos Sainz Jr. 912
12. Fernando Alonso 898
13. Romain Grosjean 793
14. Jenson Button 761
15. Daniil Kvyat 728
16. Esteban Gutierrez 676
17. Kevin Magnussen 673
18. Felipe Nasr 650
19. Marcus Ericsson 619
20. Jolyon Palmer 617
21. Pascal Wehrlein 574
22. Esteban Ocon 304
23. Rio Haryanto 276
24. Stoffel Vandoorne 54

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2015 was a depressing year for Alonso fans, as it would continue to be in F0, where he finishes behind one of the Manors in the standings :lol: the biggest winners in this system are Sergio Perez, who finished an incredible 5th overall in that Force India. Räikkönen finished the season four wins behind his teammate, while Hulkenberg finished three wins behind his. There was a massive gap from 9th to 10th, where Nasr and Ericsson heavily prospered from their own excellent reliability. Maldonado's lack of reliability came to bite him, as I expect it might throughout his career.

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 716
2. Nico Rosberg 1 568
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 502

4. Valtteri Bottas 1 131
5. Sergio Perez 1 094
6. Kimi Räikkönen 1 085
7. Felipe Massa 1 082
8. Daniil Kvyat 1 047
9. Daniel Ricciardo 1 025
10. Felipe Nasr 831
11. Max Verstappen 812
12. Nico Hulkenberg 778
13. Marcus Ericsson 757
14. Romain Grosjean 738
15. Carlos Sainz Jr. 645
16. Jenson Button 621
17. Pastor Maldonado 552
18. Will Stevens 496
19. Fernando Alonso 492
20. Roberto Merhi 444
21. Alexander Rossi 188
22. Kevin Magnussen 0

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:shock:

No, your eyes do not deceive you. This is the closest world championship probably in the history of F0. Or at least I can't imagine too many of these being settled by a single point! I had to recount the top two scores just due to how close they ended up being. Lewis Hamilton wins the championship at a climactic finale in which teammate Nico Rosberg conveniently falls to the exact spot which would allow his teammate to win the championship :chilton:

Other big changes were Bottas' rise to third in the championship, Vettel's dropping down the order, Räikkönen's consistency netting him a much better place, and Felipe Massa's drop by four places down the order.

The real hero of the hour is Max Chilton :chilton: he finishes the championship ahead of both Saubers despite, as tragically so with his teammate, leaving his year incomplete.

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 553
2. Nico Rosberg 1 552
3. Valtteri Bottas 1 341

4. Daniel Ricciardo 1 334
5. Fernando Alonso 1 264
6. Sebastian Vettel 1 218
7. Jenson Button 1 151
8. Nico Hulkenberg 1 077
9. Kimi Räikkönen 1 041
10. Kevin Magnussen 1 033
11. Felipe Massa 1 021
12. Sergio Perez 838
13. Jean-Eric Vergne 743
14. Daniil Kvyat 700
15. Romain Grosjean 553
16. Pastor Maldonado 517
17. Max Chilton 457
18. Adrian Sutil 449
19. Esteban Gutierrez 454
20. Jules Bianchi 378
21. Marcus Ericsson 369
22. Kamui Kobayashi 327
23. Will Stevens 33
24. Andre Lotterer 0

Lewis Hamilton is, just, the 2014 F0 Champion!

NOTE: with double points at Abu Dhabi, it would be Hamilton-1663 and Rosberg-1593.
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It was perhaps unsurprising to see Sebastian Vettel win this with 13 wins over 19 races. It was perhaps more surprising to see the strength of Mercedes even in this early pre-2014 pace, third and fifth in the championship and very nearly runner-up to the champion. In probably the worst review of his season, Romain Grosjean finishes well over a win down on his teammate who did not even participate in the final two rounds. Knowing how important finishing is, Grosjean was never close to beating a teammate who was perhaps the central challenger to Vettel in the first half of the season.

Otherwise, Gutierrez looks a little better here, as does Max Chilton yet again. Someone like Chilton in a Red Bull or Mercedes would be truly unstoppable given the chance.

1. Sebastian Vettel 1 729
2. Fernando Alonso 1 478
3. Lewis Hamilton 1 371

4. Mark Webber 1 243
5. Nico Rosberg 1 209
6. Kimi Räikkönen 1 191
7. Felipe Massa 1 134
8. Jenson Button 1 083
9. Romain Grosjean 1 031
10. Sergio Perez 979
11. Nico Hulkenberg 913
12. Paul di Resta 774
13. Esteban Gutierrez 719
14. Valtteri Bottas 716
15. Adrian Sutil 703 (best: 5th)
16. Daniel Ricciardo 703 (best: 7th)
17. Pastor Maldonado 677
18. Jean-Eric Vergne 613
19. Max Chilton 585
20. Jules Bianchi 531
21. Charles Pic 507
22. Giedo van der Garde 496
23. Heikki Kovalainen 82

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2014 won't be the only close modern season it seems. Kimi Räikkönen's incredible consistency put him within a hair's breadth of winning the world championship upon his comeback in that Lotus. However, a poor final round at Brazil buried his hopes, while Sebastian Vettel too found himself turned around by Bruno Senna and unable to make up the places to win the championship from Fernando Alonso.

In this system, Webber goes up while Hamilton goes waaaaay down. Unfair for Hamilton as he did have much of the measure of Button for large portions of the season, but reliability is half the game in F0. You may also have noticed that a certain crashing Frenchman dropped down the order, while Michael Schumacher's swansong was nothing to write home about. Maldonado's win was wonderful, but his season didn't lend the Venezuelan many points!

This is also the latest modern season where the champion's team did not win the constructors. Red Bull take that, while Ferrari's Alonso wins the season.

1. Fernando Alonso 1 552
2. Sebastian Vettel 1 540
3. Kimi Räikkönen 1 504
4. Mark Webber 1 285
5. Felipe Massa 1 222
6. Jenson Button 1 214
7. Lewis Hamilton 1 134
8. Nico Rosberg 1 033
9. Nico Hulkenberg 996
10. Paul di Resta 992
11. Kamui Kobayashi 975
12. Daniel Ricciardo 905
13. Sergio Perez 847
14. Bruno Senna 798
15. Romain Grosjean 777
16. Jean-Eric Vergne 752
17. Michael Schumacher 709
18. Pastor Maldonado 692
19. Heikki Kovalainen 656
20. Timo Glock 599
21. Vitaly Petrov 598
22. Charles Pic 439
23. Pedro de la Rosa 431
24. Narain Karthikeyan 322
25. Jerome d’Ambrosio 44

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2011 saw a dominant Red Bull and a dominant Sebastian Vettel. Winning by two victories over his teammate (who fares a little better here), his only opposition was from Fernando Alonso, who through an extra finish managed to overhaul Jenson Button overall for the "best of the rest" category. There was a massive gap between the top five and the rest, while Nico Rosberg nearly managed to beat Felipe Massa in what would have been quite the upset. Again, Schumacher's retirements are to his detriment here, while Maldonado similarly suffers going down the order. Perez, usually known for his impeccable reliability, was even behind the Williams of Barrichello.

1. Sebastian Vettel 1 733
2. Mark Webber 1 533
3. Fernando Alonso 1 526

4. Jenson Button 1 482
5. Lewis Hamilton 1 329
6. Felipe Massa 1 113
7. Nico Rosberg 1 087
8. Adrian Sutil 939 (two 6th places)
9. Paul di Resta 939 (one 6th place)
10. Michael Schumacher 875
11. Kamui Kobayashi 790
12. Vitaly Petrov 762
13. Jaime Alguersuari 760
14. Sebastien Buemi 704
15. Rubens Barrichello 698
16. Sergio Perez 635
17. Heikki Kovalainen 505
18. Jerome d’Ambrosio 497
19. Nick Heidfeld 487
20. Pastor Maldonado 486
21. Jarno Trulli 476
22. Timo Glock 409
23. Vitantonio Liuzzi 338
24. Bruno Senna 334
25. Daniel Ricciardo 228
26. Narain Karthikeyan 192
27. Pedro de la Rosa 47
28. Karun Chandhok 27

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What a close season! When it was all over, three drivers were within half a win of the championship lead, still! It was very close between multiple teams, while Webber and Alonso took advantage of the poorer reliability on the side of Vettel. Hamilton's string of mid-season crashes sent him out of the overall running, while even drivers like Massa, Kubica, and the Mercedes were not that far off the top five by the time it was done.

Not a huge amount of interest further back, other than that Jaime Alguersuari seems to have prospered quite heavily from this system, and has now comfortably beaten his teammate Buemi twice.

1. Fernando Alonso 1 411
2. Mark Webber 1 408
3. Sebastian Vettel 1 365

4. Jenson Button 1 361
5. Lewis Hamilton 1 308
6. Felipe Massa 1 231
7. Robert Kubica 1 153
8. Nico Rosberg 1 152
9. Michael Schumacher 1 028
10. Rubens Barrichello 945
11. Adrian Sutil 839
12. Jaime Alguersuari 817
13. Nico Hulkenberg 734
14. Vitaly Petrov 660
15. Kamui Kobayashi 631
16. Sebastien Buemi 627
17. Vitantonio Liuzzi 624
18. Heikki Kovalainen 453
19. Pedro de la Rosa 342
20. Timo Glock 320
21. Bruno Senna 292
22. Lucas di Grassi 294
23. Jarno Trulli 266
24. Nick Heidfeld 203 (8th place)
25. Karun Chandhok 203 (14th place)
26. Sakon Yamamoto 185
27. Christian Klien 50

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It is the year of Brawn, and damn were the Brawn drivers a safe pair of hands. While they weren't always the fastest cars (or drivers) out there, the sheer number-crunching they did in every race was astounding. Button was able to sit in the top eight for every race bar one, while his teammate was only beaten over the aggregate time rather than in any one game-changing event.

The Red Bulls just couldn't cut it over the season, and Nico Rosberg became the standout star when he almost broke into the top 4. Only a late-season charge from Vettel put paid to those hopes.

In this system, Alonso Glock and Fisichella bump up the order, while while the Toro Rossos especially come across really badly.

1. Jenson Button 1 310
2. Rubens Barrichello 1 232
3. Mark Webber 1 103.5

4. Sebastian Vettel 1 065
5. Nico Rosberg 1 006
6. Kimi Räikkönen 972.5
7. Lewis Hamilton 867
8. Fernando Alonso 853
9. Timo Glock 851.5
10. Nick Heidfeld 823.5
11. Jarno Trulli 791.5
12. Giancarlo Fisichella 751
13. Heikki Kovalainen 738
14. Robert Kubica 730
15. Kazuki Nakajima 538.5
16. Adrian Sutil 516.5
17. Felipe Massa 490
18. Sebastien Buemi 475
19. Nelson Piquet Jr. 331
20. Sebastien Bourdais 276
21. Romain Grosjean 186
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi 170
23. Kamui Kobayashi 129
24. Jaime Alguersuari 114
25. Luca Badoer 74

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It was a square face-off duel between Lewis Hamilton and... Nick Heidfeld? Damn! The BMWs were so damn reliable and so damn fast week-in and week-out that they actually won the constructors' title! Felipe Massa's early season retirements crippled him for the rest of the year, and he was unable to challenge. Conversely, Kimi Räikkönen's later season run of retirements took him out of the order completely. Folks like Piquet Jr. and Vettel fall down the order while Jenson Button actually beats Barrichello :pantano:

1. Lewis Hamilton 1 386
2. Nick Heidfeld 1 271
3. Felipe Massa 1 261

4. Robert Kubica 1 248
5. Fernando Alonso 1 122
6. Kimi Räikkönen 1 089
7. Heikki Kovalainen 1 044
8. Jarno Trulli 953
9. Mark Webber 917
10. Nico Rosberg 872
11. Timo Glock 862
12. Sebastian Vettel 813
13. Kazuki Nakajima 768
14. David Coulthard 671
15. Jenson Button 653
16. Rubens Barrichello 635
17. Sebastien Bourdais 580
18. Nelson Piquet Jr. 565
19. Giancarlo Fisichella 431
20. Adrian Sutil 239
21. Takuma Sato 112
22. Anthony Davidson 73

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So yes. About 2011 onwards we're seeing almost identical championships to the ones we have in real life. Longer lifespan of the seasons and uber reliability means that, with one or two exceptions, everyone is just as reliable as everyone else up front, so a system like this causes little difference. However, now in the late 2000s we're getting more and more issues for championship runners, and the results are starting to get a little weirder than life again!

Fernando Alonso was able to beat his rookie teammate Lewis Hamilton by just two points, while the cheating McLarens dominated the title ahead of the Ferraris behind them. Heidfeld wasn't as consistent here as in 2008, while Kubica's absences dropped him down the order. Barrichello rises up an incredible ten places from 20th to 10th, while the Red Bulls were so closely matched they were almost identical until countback.

1. Fernando Alonso 1 409
2. Lewis Hamilton 1 407
3. Kimi Räikkönen 1 353

4. Felipe Massa 1 271
5. Nick Heidfeld 1 087
6. Heikki Kovalainen 975
7. Robert Kubica 901
8. Giancarlo Fisichella 871
9. Nico Rosberg 787
10. Rubens Barrichello 711
11. Jarno Trulli 682
12. Alexander Wurz 666
13. Takuma Sato 563
14. Mark Webber 592 (best finish 3rd)
15. David Coulthard 592 (best finish 4th)
16. Ralf Schumacher 558
17. Jenson Button 527
18. Anthony Davidson 456
19. Vitantonio Liuzzi 365
20. Adrian Sutil 354
21. Sebastian Vettel 238
22. Sakon Yamamoto 167
23. Christijan Albers 158
24. Scott Speed 143
25. Kazuki Nakajima 54
26. Markus Winkelhock 0

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This is what 3 championships Alonso has gained now? Is he secretly Captain Falcon?
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Ducktanian wrote: 31 May 2023, 11:47 This is what 3 championships Alonso has gained now? Is he secretly Captain Falcon?
I have a feeling we may see a few more on the way. Kimi's reliability at McLaren was not famously brilliant.
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Not too much change from real life in this one. Alonso was simply unstoppable and just put down any opposition with firsts and seconds. Renault very narrowly won the constructors, while Button perhaps surprisingly overtook Räikkönen overall. McLaren finish behind Honda in the standings, while Pedro de la Rosa actually beats Juan Pablo Montoya. Mark Webber had a real dire year, while Liuzzi and Coulthard can be very satisfied overall with their placing.

1. Fernando Alonso 1 503
2. Michael Schumacher 1 387
3. Felipe Massa 1 283

4. Giancarlo Fisichella 1 255
5. Jenson Button 1 000
6. Kimi Räikkönen 995
7. Rubens Barrichello 958
8. Nick Heidfeld 866
9. David Coulthard 708
10. Ralf Schumacher 690
11. Jarno Trulli 668
12. Vitantonio Liuzzi 623
13. Scott Speed 618
14. Nico Rosberg 493
15. Jacques Villeneuve 446
16. Tiago Monteiro 439
17. Christijan Albers 430
18. Pedro de la Rosa 423
19. Mark Webber 417
20. Juan Pablo Montoya 408
21. Chistian Klien 406
22. Takuma Sato 356
23. Robert Kubica 294
24. Robert Doornbos 138
25. Sakon Yamamoto 103
26. Franck Montagny 101
27. Yuji Ide 44

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In one of the more dominant displays of modern times, Fernando Alonso takes probably his first of many championships after scoring podium after podium after podium. The only drivers really challenging him were Kimi, who had far too many problems to be of any real threat, and the Toyota of Ralf Schumacher. His brother Michael collapsed for most of the early and late season, leaving him behind even his teammate Rubens! Most of you will probably be very sad that Tiago Monteiro was not higher up the order, but five places up is better than nothing.

1. Fernando Alonso 1 557
2. Kimi Räikkönen 1 354
3. Ralf Schumacher 1 166

4. Rubens Barrichello 1 115
5. Michael Schumacher 1 022
6. Giancarlo Fisichella 1 003
7. Mark Webber 879
8. David Coulthard 870
9. Felipe Massa 852
10. Juan Pablo Montoya 840
11. Tiago Monteiro 831
12. Jarno Trulli 823
13. Jenson Button 803
14. Jacques Villeneuve 737
15. Christian Klien 642
16. Narain Karthikeyan 609
17. Nick Heidfeld 607
18. Christijan Albers 515
19. Takuma Sato 388
20. Patrick Friesacher 211
21. Robert Doornbos 191
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi 120
23. Alexander Wurz 87
24. Pedro de la Rosa 76
25. Antonio Pizzonia 66
26. Anthony Davidson 0
27. Ricardo Zonta 0

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