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The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 29 Aug 2019, 09:49
by Faustus
Marcus Ericsson has been recalled by Alfa Romeo to be on standby in his capacity as reserve driver, in the event that Kimi Raikkonen is unable to take part:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14561 ... lfa-at-spa

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 29 Aug 2019, 10:19
by Faustus
Our valued forum member Ataxia (aka Jake Boxall-Legge) is on the latest Autosport podcast.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 10:30
by Miguel98
Renault have gone back to their B-Spec engines for the remainder of the weekend.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 13:15
by dr-baker
Now that's a proper old-school engine failure!

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 13:16
by Rob Dylan
Was just going to post the same thing! Holy moly.

The thing that concerned me though watching the coverage, was that Alfa Romeo could win their appeal over the DSQs in Germany, and that would take away Williams' point! This cannot be allowed to happen :shock:

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 13:25
by Fetzie
The Mercedes mechanics are pretty damn good to turn that car around in that time.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 13:26
by Rob Dylan
I was also going to suggest, what with three drivers taking massive penalties starting at the back, that there was now a really high 2% chance of either Williams driver making it to Q2. Unfortunately not :cry:

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 14:29
by Nuppiz
Fetzie wrote:The Mercedes mechanics are pretty damn good to turn that car around in that time.

Well, conveniently enough they did get a few extra minutes from Kubica's engine failure...

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 15:12
by mario
Speaking of engine failures, do we have a clearer answer as to what happened with Giovinazzi's engine? That was one of the new specification engine that Ferrari themselves were planning to use at Monza - I can't imagine the idea of a major engine failure for Ferrari would go down well there...

In fact, quite a few teams were having problems - we had Racing Point's problems in practise, Giovinazzi's engine letting go and Verstappen persistently complaining of problems during practise and in the first qualifying run.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 16:18
by Enforcer
It's really tragic that with a front row lockout, all I can do is wonder how Ferrari will manage to convert it into 4th place an a DNF.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 18:10
by RAK
Enforcer wrote:It's really tragic that with a front row lockout, all I can do is wonder how Ferrari will manage to convert it into 4th place an a DNF.


It illustrates how much of an embarrassing year Ferrari have had with a car that could have and should have won at least once so far this year.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 18:20
by WeirdKerr
I don't think the race should go ahead following the tragic event this afternoon :(

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 19:56
by Spectoremg
We all get so used to seemingly safe motorsport. What a tragedy.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 20:16
by dr-baker
Sunday's F2 sprint race certainly is not going ahead.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 20:21
by Enforcer
Yeah, that's put a cloud over it... and I used the term 'tragic' about something trivial shortly before it happened too. :(

Cannot imagine the Belgian Grand Prix being postponed though. "Show must go on" is very much the line from F1 in these circumstances.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 20:28
by Rob Dylan
Yes, for better or for worse, there's no real right or wrong answer as to what the FiA should do. But I can almost guarantee that the F1 race will go ahead.

Still in shock after hearing this news.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 22:44
by Fetzie
The race will go ahead, but I would imagine the podium will be more of a solemn affair.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 23:05
by WeirdKerr
personally: I feel the race shouldn't go ahead...in fact I think let's cease all discussion on this forum until Tuesday...

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 31 Aug 2019, 23:50
by Nessafox
WeirdKerr wrote:personally: I feel the race shouldn't go ahead...in fact I think let's cease all discussion on this forum until Tuesday...

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. I don't think many people on this forum really are into the race now anyway. This forum isn't the casual fanbase.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 06:55
by UncreativeUsername37
Spectoremg wrote:We all get so used to seemingly safe motorsport. What a tragedy.

This is a better worded version of what I planned to say.


Regarding what should and shouldn't be run, I don't think there's a right or wrong thing to do... whatever still happens I'll try watching and see if I feel comfortable with it, but I don't see myself getting too excited about anything.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 08:13
by Miguel98
Today we carry on as business as usual. Despite the black shadow cast over the weekend, we know how it works. It's what makes this sport so different than the rest. We know the dangers, even in this high safety era.

For racing drivers, you put the visor on and it's a day like any other despite what happened. For fans, we cheer on harder than ever to make sure we know and respect the dangers the drivers go through every other day when the visor go down and they race full throttle. Today, they'll race for Anthoine Hubert and we'll cheer for Hubert. That's how it goes in motorsport.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 14:49
by Londoner
I don't think there's been a more fitting race winner than this weekend. That's the tonic we all needed.

Norris broke down on the final lap and lost his chance of unrejectification, but as a result Alexander Albon is unrejectified!

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 14:55
by Fetzie
East Londoner wrote:I don't think there's been a more fitting race winner than this weekend. That's the tonic we all needed.

Norris broke down on the final lap and lost his chance of unrejectification, but as a result Alexander Albon is unrejectified!


Albon's move at the end is under investigation by the stewards because he left the track to do it.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 15:15
by Barbazza
What a shame that Sky F1's coverage has been as terrible as ever today.

On Max hitting Kimi: "Oh, that's Max's fault"....30 seconds later after seeing replays and realising that they have offended wonderboy and their friend Horner..."Oh, Kimi should have given him more room".

Damon Hill has twice just come out with anti-Ferrari crap (no change there) talking about Vettel "unsubtly" letting Leclerc by first of all (what do you want, wheel banging down the straight?!) and then commenting on the "acrid smell" from Ferrari fans letting flares off. Strange that, since all the flares I saw were orange.....

As for the race itself, delighted for Charles, what a shame he can't celebrate properly after yesterday's events. Gutted for Lando, he deserved 5th place. I think Giovinazzi might have justs thrown away a race seat as well as some decent points.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 15:37
by Firmin
Fetzie wrote:Albon's move at the end is under investigation by the stewards because he left the track to do it.

On formula1.com it is described as Perez being under investigation for forcing Albon off track.

Flying relatively under the radar on his mediums in the beginning, Albon showed his hunger for a good result in the latter half. That were some feisty overtakes!

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 17:45
by Ataxia
Honestly, this has been the toughest weekend. I'm so lucky to get to do what I do, but after Saturday I just wanted to go home and spend the evening crying.

But the show must go on. Thankfully, the race was good. Thankfully Leclerc won. And thankfully, everyone has been there for each other in this paddock.

I don't know if I can describe this weekend adequately, but what I can say is this. Anthoine was an absolute standout guy. He was kind, calm and considerate, and always had time for people. Losing anyone is a blow, but especially when they're just one of the nicest people on the planet. I think everyone in Spa today must be commended for getting out of bed this morning and being able to get on and keep the world turning.

Delighted for Charles, for Alex and Pierre too. Their results will mean the world to them.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 19:17
by Paul Hayes
*Such* a relief that Leclerc was able to hold on! I can't remember the last time I felt so nervous watching the final lap of a Grand Prix!

Very fitting that he won today, given what's happened, and huge congratulations on Leclerc finally winning his first race after the two that got away earlier this year.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 01 Sep 2019, 19:38
by Spectoremg
WeirdKerr wrote:personally: I feel the race shouldn't go ahead...in fact I think let's cease all discussion on this forum until Tuesday...

Get a grip, this is business.

Re: The strangely absent 2019 Belgian Grand Prix thread

Posted: 02 Sep 2019, 07:38
by UncreativeUsername37
Spectoremg wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:personally: I feel the race shouldn't go ahead...in fact I think let's cease all discussion on this forum until Tuesday...

Get a grip, this is business.

Someone died... evidently most of us don't agree with WeirdKerr, but it isn't an opinion that deserves a harsh response like that.