F1 1985+

Dexter249 · Post by **Dexter249** » 28 Jul 2017, 12:38

Drag Reduction and Next Year's car for Toleman.

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 28 Jul 2017, 18:03

Lola: 2 D&T's on the 1986 car, and 2 on drag.

Post by **tommykl** » 28 Jul 2017, 20:41

Spirit will spend the opportunities on drag reduction (x2), mechanical grip and reliability.

CarloSpace · Post by **CarloSpace** » 29 Jul 2017, 05:48

Zakspeed F1 management informs Zakspeed HQ they wish to go this route:

Pay £6,510,000 for development, and non-exclusive use, of the '1500/8' engine, next season.

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Reduce weight (x2), Increase reliability and Increase downforce for Zakspeed, please.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 29 Jul 2017, 09:27

The entire Williams team are ecstatic with our Monaco and wider season performance in that despite Ferrari possessing a larger pool of resources and additional car per race, at every straight and corner Williams are able to challenge and take the game to them. This is undoubtably due to the high levels of skill and professionalism of our drivers Ayrton Senna and Stefan Bellof, and the tireless work and dedication of our wider Williams team from the chief designer and mechanics to the cleaners and tea ladies to help make all this possible. We hope to keep the pressure on Ferrari as long as we can and are also looking for further resourses in order to aid our team development to continue this.

1 D&T on Mechanical grip, 1 on Downforce and the remaining 2 on next years car please. Given Williams position in the title chase, is there any way to fill the vacant sponsor slot? (Increased TV and media exposure, presence of wider sponsors at Monaco etc?)

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 29 Jul 2017, 10:00

x1 on Mechnical Grip x1 on Downforce and x2 on Next year car

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 29 Jul 2017, 21:14

CarloSpace wrote:Zakspeed F1 management informs Zakspeed HQ they wish to go this route: Pay £6,510,000 for development, and non-exclusive use, of the '1500/8' engine, next season.

Very good, Sir~, very good~ :roll:

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Collieafc wrote:Given Williams position in the title chase, is there any way to fill the vacant sponsor slot? (Increased TV and media exposure, presence of wider sponsors at Monaco etc?)

... ^ Delboy Williams, here, trying to wrangle himself a knocked-orf~ sponsor, or two. Get outta here!

Collieafc wrote:We hope to keep the pressure on Ferrari as long as we can and are also looking for further resourses in order to aid our team development to continue this.

Oh, well, you're in luck then; your team is about to get more resources than you can handle, in the very next 'Special Event' I've been planning (you keep shtum, TCBY!).

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 30 Jul 2017, 23:14

Five D&Ts for Ferrari? Five?

Yeeeeeaaaaaaa.

Firstly, Scuderia Ferrari gonna shift their engine development focus to increase reliability. Then, Scuderia Ferrari gonna spend the following D&Ts;

1x Increase Reliability [chassis]
1x Reduce Drag
3x Engine Upgrade

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 31 Jul 2017, 21:08

Everything on drag reduction.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 04 Aug 2017, 04:31

McLaren - 2 for next year's car and other two in downforce

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 04 Aug 2017, 18:49

D&T after Round 4

McLaren

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £360,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £400,000.
Downforce increase of 6% (Downforce = 37% > Downforce = 43%). D&T cost was £440,000.
Downforce increase of 6% (Downforce = 43% > Downforce = 49%). D&T cost was £480,000.

Ferrari

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Reliability increase of 4% (Reliability = 79% > Reliability = 83%). D&T cost was £540,000.
Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 23% < Drag = 19%). D&T cost was £600,000.
Engine reliability increase of 7% (Reliability = 64% > Reliability = 71%). D&T cost was £660,000.
Engine reliability increase of 5% (Reliability = 71% > Reliability = 76%). D&T cost was £720,000.
Engine reliability increase of 4% (Reliability = 76% > Reliability = 80%). D&T cost was paid for by the Minardi team.

Tyrrell

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Downforce increase of 5% (Downforce = 57% > Downforce = 62%). D&T cost was £280,000.
Drag decrease of 9% (Drag = 83% < Drag = 74%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 7% (Mechanical grip = 44% > Mechanical grip = 51%). D&T cost was £360,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £400,000.

Alfa Romeo

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Mechanical grip increase of 6% (Mechanical grip = 48% > Mechanical grip = 54%). D&T cost was £360,000.
Downforce increase of 6% (Downforce = 33% > Downforce = 39%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £440,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £480,000.

Williams

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Mechanical grip increase of 2% (Mechanical grip = 72% > Mechanical grip = 74%). D&T cost was £360,000.
Downforce increase of 4% (Downforce = 68% > Downforce = 72%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £440,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £480,000.

Arrows

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Weight decrease of 2kg (Weight = 555kg < Weight = 553kg). D&T cost was £360,000.
Reliability increase of 4% (Reliability = 57% > Reliability = 61%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £440,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £480,000.

Osella Squadra Corse Alfa

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Drag decrease of 5% (Drag = 48% < Drag = 43%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Tyre dry grip increase of 3% (Dry Grip = 63% > Dry Grip = 66%). D&T cost was waived.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £360,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £400,000.

Toleman

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Drag decrease of 9% (Drag = 72% < Drag = 63%). D&T cost was £280,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £320,000.

Spirit

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Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 96% < Drag = 92%). D&T cost was £180,000.
Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 92% < Drag = 88%). D&T cost was £200,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 4% (Mechanical grip = 18% > Mechanical grip = 22%). D&T cost was £220,000.
Reliability increase of 4% (Reliability = 20% > Reliability = 24%). D&T cost was £240,000.

Ligier

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Drag decrease of 8% (Drag = 80% < Drag = 72%). D&T cost was £360,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 6% (Mechanical grip = 34% > Mechanical grip = 40%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £440,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £480,000.

Minardi

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Downforce increase of 6% (Downforce = 40% > Downforce = 46%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Downforce increase of 7% (Downforce = 46% > Downforce = 53%). D&T cost was £160,000.
Downforce increase of 5% (Downforce = 53% > Downforce = 58%). D&T cost was £200,000.

RAM

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Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 80% < Drag = 76%). D&T cost was £100,000.
Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 76% < Drag = 72%). D&T cost was £120,000.
Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 72% < Drag = 68%). D&T cost was £140,000.
Drag decrease of 3% (Drag = 68% < Drag = 65%). D&T cost was £160,000.

Zakspeed

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Weight decrease of 3kg (Weight = 605kg < Weight = 602kg). D&T cost was £180,000.
Weight decrease of 3kg (Weight = 602kg < Weight = 599kg). D&T cost was £200,000.
Reliability increase of 4% (Reliability = 26% > Reliability = 30%). D&T cost was £220,000.
Downforce increase of 4% (Downforce = 22% > Downforce = 26%). D&T cost was £240,000.

Lola

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £180,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £200,000.
Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 70% < Drag = 66%). D&T cost was £220,000.
Drag decrease of 3% (Drag = 66% < Drag = 63%). D&T cost was £240,000.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 04 Aug 2017, 18:50

Round 5 - Canadian Grand Prix, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, 16th June 1985

Qualifying Results:
It was the perfect weekend for a Ferrari one-two-three; even the Canadian crowd were enjoying the sight and sound of a trio of Ferraris whizzing around, and the density of Italian flags-to-other-countries was at least two-to-one. Prost was completely untouchable, while Pironi and Alboreto looked like they had to work a bit harder for their grid positions. The circuit seemed well-suited to the Arrows-Alfa combination, with both cars in the top seven, and Rosberg a surprising fourth. Minardi had all the straight-line speed in the world, but both their drivers had trouble slowing the cars down, especially under the bridge before turn six. No-one was sure what Williams were up to, other than keeping their cards close to their chest; if their cars expired in the race, one might think the team were struggling for performance in Montreal. From dizzying-highs to terrifying-lows, the Toleman team's lack of power ensured they would squabble with the Ligier team's year-old Renaults; neither team had any real chance of qualifying for the race.

1. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) 01:23.686 (Trap: 270 km/h)
2. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) +02.387 (Trap: 276 km/h)
3. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) +02.460 (Trap: 271 km/h)
4. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +02.567 (Trap: 262 km/h)
5. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +02.582 (Trap: 262 km/h)
6. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +02.757 (Trap: 296 km/h)
7. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +03.225 (Trap: 263 km/h)
8. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) +03.512 (Trap: 268 km/h)
9. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +04.180 (Trap: 262 km/h)
10. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +04.199 (Trap: 260 km/h)
11. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +04.204 (Trap: 268 km/h)
12. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +04.608 (Trap: 296 km/h)
13. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +04.652 (Trap: 261 km/h)
14. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +04.750 (Trap: 262 km/h)
15. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +04.794 (Trap: 272 km/h)
16. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +05.256 (Trap: 275 km/h)
17. Derek Daly - RAM-Hart (Pirelli) +05.442 (Trap: 256 km/h)
18. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) +05.656 (Trap: 268 km/h)
19. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +05.763 (Trap: 265 km/h)
20. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +06.299 (Trap: 262 km/h)
21. Pierluigi Martini - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +06.319 (Trap: 264 km/h)
22. Corrado Fabi - Spirit-Hart (Pirelli) +06.674 (Trap: 254 km/h)
23. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +06.796 (Trap: 260 km/h)
25. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +07.225 (Trap: 262 km/h)
26. Eddie Cheever - Lola-Renault (Goodyear) +07.410 (Trap: 254 km/h)
24. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +07.790 (Trap: 265 km/h)
DNQ. Christian Danner - Zakspeed (Pirelli) +08.603 (Trap: 262 km/h)
DNQ. Alain Ferté - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +08.837 (Trap: 256 km/h)
DNQ. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +09.441 (Trap: 253 km/h)
DNQ. Alan Jones - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +10.148 (Trap: 257 km/h)
DNQ. Philippe Streiff - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +10.810 (Trap: 256 km/h)

Race Results:
Pironi quickly lost second place when his turbo blew very early-on, followed by Ricardo Patrese in the Minardi, who spun-off on the turn-in to Droit du Casino. Throughout the race, the Williams cars made use of their straight-line speed to power their way to the head of the leading pack. Patrese's team-mate, de Cesaris, was left rather more red-faced, as he locked-up both front wheels on the approach to the hairpin and sideswiped Prost. Prost himself would eventually retire with a steering-induced suspension problem, which caused one of the front-right rods to vibrate and weaken, when he flat-spotted the tyre.

All of this meant that Alboreto was left to glide his perfect-handling Ferrari to his first victory of the year, but Rosberg had other ideas. The red-and-white Arrows steadily closed-up on Alboreto, the gap decreasing until the two cars looked as one, when on the penultimate lap Rosberg threw himself down the inside of L'Epingle; his two right-side tyres were on the grass, they stopped rotating, the grass became the kerbing, the Arrows bounced up into the air a few inches, landed, touched wheels with the Ferrari, the crowd shouted and yelled with excitement at what was happening, and Rosberg turned into the hairpin one position higher than he had been a few seconds ago. It was a move than belied the Finn's (supposed) maturity, was more like the sort of clumsy maneuver one expected from the non-championship Formula Atlantic round held earlier, and nearly allowed Bellof to catch them both, but it would give the Arrows team their first win in Formula One - and quite possibly the 1982 World Champion's last.

Ferrari and Williams are now equal in the Constructor's Championship, while Alboreto's second-place meant his first points of the season. Mansell finished where he started - and considering the Brabham team's performance so-far this season - that wasn't bad.

1. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) 1hr 58:29.940
2. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) +0:01.339
3. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +0:03.287
4. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +0:58.936
5. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +01:00.625
6. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +01:23.486
7. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +03:07.593
8. Derek Daly - RAM-Hart (Pirelli) +04:29.938
9. Eddie Cheever - Lola-Renault (Goodyear) +04:48.975
10. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +04:52.613
11. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +05:03.906
12. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +05:29.780
13. Corrado Fabi - Spirit-Hart (Pirelli) +06:14.400
Ret. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) - Steering
Ret. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) - Exhaust
Ret. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) - Exhaust
Ret. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) - Spun-off
Ret. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) - Throttle
Ret. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Engine
Ret. Pierluigi Martini - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Turbo
Ret. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) - Spun-off
Ret. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) - Spun-off
Ret. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Throttle

Championship Standings:
Driver's Championship
1. Ayrton Senna (28 points)
2. Didier Pironi (24 points)
3. Keke Rosberg (11 points)
4. Steffan Bellof (11 points)
5. Alain Prost (9 points)
6. Alessandro Nannini (9 points)
7. Jean-Pierre Jarier (7 points)
8. Michele Albereto (6 points)
9. Jacques Laffitte (5 points)
10. Derek Warwick (4 points)
11. Nigel Mansell (4 points)
12. Stefan Johansson (2 points)
13. Ricardo Patrese (2 points)
14. René Arnoux (1 point)
15. Alan Jones (1 point)
16. John Watson (1 point)

Constructor's Championship
1. Ferrari (39 points)
2. Williams (39 points)
3. Arrows (20 points)
4. Tyrrell (11 points)
5. McLaren (5 points)
6. Brabham (5 points)
7. BMW (2 points)
8. Minardi (2 points)
9. Lotus (1 point)
10. Toleman (1 point)

There is 1 D&T opportunity before the next race.

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 04 Aug 2017, 19:44

Yes! We've managed what some would consider (and what actually was) impossible- getting an Arrows to win a race- and we've repaid Rosberg for a pretty rubbish 1984. To keep up the momentum and try and retain 3rd in the WCC, we will spend our D&T on weight reduction

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Aug 2017, 21:01

Scuderia Ferrari will spend its one D&T on increasing reliability of the chassis.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 04 Aug 2017, 21:23

Excellent top-six qualifying effort from Andrea de Cesaris. Really getting the most out of the car. One D&T to downforce

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 05 Aug 2017, 01:38

McLaren wants D&T to increase Mechanical grip

CarloSpace · Post by **CarloSpace** » 05 Aug 2017, 05:09

Downforce upgrade for Zakspeed.

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 05 Aug 2017, 08:01

Osella will use our D&T on Mechanical Grip

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 05 Aug 2017, 09:09

1 drag decrease

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 05 Aug 2017, 10:13

Spend it one Next Years Chassis

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 05 Aug 2017, 10:49

Williams will spend their point on next years car

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 05 Aug 2017, 16:58

Downforce for Lola.

Dexter249 · Post by **Dexter249** » 06 Aug 2017, 19:53

Next Year's car for D&T

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 07 Aug 2017, 08:18

BMW will improve reliability

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 12 Aug 2017, 23:29

D&T after Round 5

McLaren

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Mechanical grip increase of 7% (Mechanical grip = 49% > Mechanical grip = 56%). D&T cost was £520,000.

Ferrari

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Reliability increase of 3% (Reliability = 83% > Reliability = 86%). D&T cost was £780,000.

Alfa Romeo

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £520,000.

BMW

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Reliability increase of 7% (Reliability = 42% > Reliability = 49%). D&T cost was £360,000.

Williams

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £520,000.

Arrows

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Weight decrease of 3kg (Weight = 553kg < Weight = 550kg). D&T cost was £520,000.

Osella Squadra Corse Alfa

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Mechanical grip increase of 7% (Mechanical grip = 34% > Mechanical grip = 41%). D&T cost was £440,000.

Toleman

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £360,000.

Ligier

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Drag decrease of 9% (Drag = 72% < Drag = 63%). D&T cost was £520,000.

Minardi

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Downforce increase of 5% (Downforce = 58% > Downforce = 63%). D&T cost was £240,000.

Zakspeed

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Downforce increase of 4% (Downforce = 26% > Downforce = 30%). D&T cost was £260,000.

Lola

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Downforce increase of 3% (Downforce = 40% > Downforce = 43%). D&T cost was £260,000.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 12 Aug 2017, 23:30

Round 6 - Detroit Grand Prix, Detroit, 23rd June 1985

Qualifying Results:
Alboreto made short-work of the haphazard, stereotypical angular Detroit street track, revisited for the fourth time. His Ferrari chassis looked especially grippy, and the V6 turbo engine in the back seemed to behave predicatively, which could not be said for certain other teams, who's turbos - at such a low speed - kicked-in seemingly at random, nearly propelling their pilots into either the grey Armco and cream-coloured concrete blocks on half the corners of every lap they attempted. The US, of course, is an important market for Fiat to make bigger inroads into, and the many American fans in the crowd who knew what a Ferrari was, and - unlike BMW and Alfa Romeo - didn't pull a face like a bulldog liking urine off a thistle when asked if they'd like to own one - could be proud of a bright red front row. Williams asserted, once again, how much a threat to Italian domination they were, splitting the sluggish Pironi and Prost, and surrounding the latter. The event was unusually well-catered; it was a strange sight seeing entire Formula One teams all gobbling hot-dogs and burgers around the paddock.

Teo Fabi, in what the American media had quickly nicknamed 'The Oscar', put himself an impressive twelfth on the grid, but team-mate Pierluigi Martini could not capitalize on the same equipment due to a misfire. There were more than just a few skillful drivers in half-decent chassis', who were otherwise competitive with powerful engines, like BMW, Alfa Romeo and Lotus, but in Detroit, they would all struggle to convert that horsepower into on-track performance. After the elation of Canada, the Arrows team could do no better than sixteenth and eighteenth. The Minardi's were also unusually off-the-pace, both cars struggling with Detroit's tight, twisty, low-grip corners, despite being easily the quickest cars down the extended - and chicane-less - straightaway, after the Ford Corner.

1. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) 01:42.920 (Trap: 266 km/h)
2. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) +01.266 (Trap: 269 km/h)
3. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +01.308 (Trap: 267 km/h)
4. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) +01.529 (Trap: 267 km/h)
5. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +02.626 (Trap: 266 km/h)
6. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +02.704 (Trap: 260 km/h)
7. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +02.813 (Trap: 257 km/h)
9. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +03.354 (Trap: 257 km/h)
8. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +03.600 (Trap: 255 km/h)
10. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +03.991 (Trap: 255 km/h)
11. Alan Jones - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +04.500 (Trap: 252 km/h)
12. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +04.609 (Trap: 256 km/h)
13. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) +04.951 (Trap: 266 km/h)
15. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +05.278 (Trap: 257 km/h)
16. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) +05.390 (Trap: 267 km/h)
17. Corrado Fabi - Spirit-Hart (Pirelli) +05.450 (Trap: 248 km/h)
18. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +05.453 (Trap: 256 km/h)
19. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +05.710 (Trap: 260 km/h)
14. Eddie Cheever - Lola-Renault (Goodyear) +05.740 (Trap: 252 km/h)
20. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +05.798 (Trap: 254 km/h)
21. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +05.956 (Trap: 250 km/h)
22. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +05.974 (Trap: 256 km/h)
23. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +06.199 (Trap: 294 km/h)
24. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +06.339 (Trap: 291 km/h)
25. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +06.642 (Trap: 253 km/h)
26. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +07.173 (Trap: 259 km/h)
DNQ. Philippe Streiff - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +07.461 (Trap: 249 km/h)
DNQ. Derek Daly - RAM-Hart (Pirelli) +07.545 (Trap: 250 km/h)
DNQ. Pierluigi Martini - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +07.668 (Trap: 261 km/h)
DNQ. Christian Danner - Zakspeed (Pirelli) +07.675 (Trap: 256 km/h)
DNQ. Alain Ferté - Ligier-Renault (Pirelli) +09.817 (Trap: 248 km/h)

Race Results:
It had all looked so easy for Alboreto; after bringing up the rear of the Ferrari team so far in the season, his championship challenge could surely now begin in earnest. Prost and Pironi were left behind to battle it out and entertain the crowd, the Frenchman looking uncomfortable in the heat all throughout the three-day weekend. The Williams team's race-craft could not save them on this occasion, and Senna did what he could - maximizing the team's points tally - but even his well-balanced chassis could not compete with Ferrari's brilliance. Bellof, on the other hand, just... plum crashed into the wall, and parked parallel to Jefferson Avenue. John Watson kept a steady-head, and moved up from his starting position of seventh, to eventually come home with two well-earned points for the Brabham team. Fabi retired his Alfa junior car from a top-ten finish, points still seeming a distant hope for the Osella team.

1. Michele Albereto - Ferrari (Goodyear) 1hr 58:13.617
2. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Goodyear) +01:17.609
3. Didier Pironi - Ferrari (Goodyear) +01:18.701
4. Ayrton Senna - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) +02:02.823
5. John Watson - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) +02:43.837
6. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) +04:15.500
7. Jacques Laffitte - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) +04:23.464
8. Patrick Tambay - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +04:32.968
9. René Arnoux - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) +04:44.930
10. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +04:45.430
11. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) +05:05.337
12. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +05:29.360
13. Manfred Winkelhock - BMW (Pirelli) +06:04.659
14. Corrado Fabi - Spirit-Hart (Pirelli) +06:36.595
15. Ricardo Patrese - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +07:20.340
16. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Ferrari (Pirelli) +07:53.777
Ret. Teo Fabi - Osella Squadra Corse Alfa-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Puncture
Ret. Alan Jones - Toleman-Hart (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Goodyear) - Wheel
Ret. Steffan Bellof - Williams-BMW (Goodyear) - Accident
Ret. Stefan Johansson - BMW (Pirelli) - Engine
Ret. Jean-Pierre Jarier - Tyrrell-BMW (Goodyear) - Oil pressure
Ret. Elio de Angelis - Lotus-Renault (Pirelli) - Exhaust
Ret. Nigel Mansell - Brabham-Porsche (Goodyear) - Steering
Ret. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Spun-off
Ret. Eddie Cheever - Lola-Renault (Goodyear) - Driveshaft

Championship Standings:
Driver's Championship
1. Ayrton Senna (31 points)
2. Didier Pironi (28 points)
3. Michele Albereto (15 points)
4. Alain Prost (15 points)
5. Keke Rosberg (11 points)
6. Steffan Bellof (11 points)
7. Alessandro Nannini (9 points)
8. Jean-Pierre Jarier (7 points)
9. Jacques Laffitte (5 points)
10. Derek Warwick (5 points)
11. Nigel Mansell (4 points)
12. John Watson (3 points)
13. Stefan Johansson (2 points)
14. Ricardo Patrese (2 points)
15. René Arnoux (1 point)
16. Alan Jones (1 point)

Constructor's Championship
1. Ferrari (58 points)
2. Williams (42 points)
3. Arrows (20 points)
4. Tyrrell (12 points)
5. Brabham (7 points)
6. McLaren (5 points)
7. BMW (2 points)
8. Minardi (2 points)
9. Lotus (1 point)
10. Toleman (1 point)

There are 2* D&T opportunities before the next race *(3 for Ferrari, 1 for Minardi).

This Could Be You · Post by **This Could Be You** » 12 Aug 2017, 23:43

After a disappointing weekend where we've been nowhere near the ultimate pace, Arrows will spend it's D&Ts on Mechanical Grip and Next Year's Car.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Aug 2017, 23:44

The first Ferrari 1-2-3 since the 1961 British GP, and the eighth occurrence of such a result in F1 history. A magnificent day indeed :glasses:

Scuderia Ferrari will switch their engine development to increasing reliability (just in case it isn't already so), and spend 2 D&T tokens on the engine. We will spend 1 D&T token on next year's car.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 13 Aug 2017, 00:06

One on Next years car and One on Mechincal Grip

thor97 · Post by **thor97** » 13 Aug 2017, 01:06

Two for Next years car.

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 13 Aug 2017, 01:36

Tyrrell will spend 2 D&Ts on drag reduction

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 13 Aug 2017, 06:41

We'll get points eventually... Hopefully...

Anyways, we shall use 1 D&T on Reliability and one on Drag Reduction.

CarloSpace · Post by **CarloSpace** » 13 Aug 2017, 08:18

1 Downforce upgrade + 1 Weight reduction for Zakspeed. Next year's car can wait, we just want to qualify for races this season.

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 13 Aug 2017, 08:26

BMW will put both D&T's on next years car

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 13 Aug 2017, 10:41

Williams will put one on downforce and one on next years car

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 13 Aug 2017, 12:51

Not sure how we've managed to be so awful so far despite having a car with such good base numbers. Anyhow, one downforce update for us. We'd be very grateful to see Ferrari use their spare D&T opportunity to work on the engine that we're helping them to develop, but we don't really expect it.

Post by **tommykl** » 13 Aug 2017, 14:10

Spirit will spend both opportunities on developing next year's car.

BioBiro · Post by **BioBiro** » 13 Aug 2017, 14:19

Aislabie wrote:Not sure how we've managed to be so awful so far despite having a car with such good base numbers. Anyhow, one downforce update for us.

I started to wonder this, also.

Although I wrote the code that simulates the sessions, I don't really understand why it treats your car this way. On a fast track (of which there are far more in the second-half of the season) your cars seem to be wayyy~ faster, and on slower tracks it seems to massiveeelllyyy~ exaggerate~ yourrr~ slownesss~.

We'd be very grateful to see Ferrari use their spare D&T opportunity to work on the engine that we're helping them to develop, but we don't really expect it.

Permitting a team to perform R&D on an engine they aren't using wasn't a functionally I envisaged, but if Ferrari wishes to perform development on the 015T rather than the 031/2 then I'm fine with this, if they state this intention.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 13 Aug 2017, 16:53

Both on downforce.

Aislabie · Post by **Aislabie** » 13 Aug 2017, 17:35

BioBiro wrote:
Aislabie wrote:Not sure how we've managed to be so awful so far despite having a car with such good base numbers. Anyhow, one downforce update for us.
I started to wonder this, also.

Although I wrote the code that simulates the sessions, I don't really understand why it treats your car this way. On a fast track (of which there are far more in the second-half of the season) your cars seem to be wayyy~ faster, and on slower tracks it seems to massiveeelllyyy~ exaggerate~ yourrr~ slownesss~.

Particularly given that, by the base numbers you put out before the season, our chassis is the fourth-best or something on the grid:

Aislabie wrote:
BioBiro wrote:I've added a new 'rankings' feature at the start of the thread. It shows a rainbow-coloured list of each team's car's performance.
For anyone curious about my sanity, I promise you that I didn't spend all-night making the list by hand.

And here is an overall ranking of the chassis, but not so well formatted as yours:

Ferrari - 9
Williams - 10
Lotus - 15
Minardi - 19
Brabham - 23
Arrows - 33
... the rest

Strap a 1500 horse-power behemoth in the back of that and I'd have expected it to get better, not worse.