Alt-1957: Post-season auction!

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What track should be tenth in the 1958 season?

Poll ended at 07 Oct 2017, 21:52

Ain-Diab
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Sebring
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Total votes: 6

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Alt-1957: Post-season auction!

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While waiting for Simtek to kindly finish the 1956 review (thank you so much for taking it on!), let's get this show on the road.

You may start posting tentative plans while I begin to make preparations.

1950: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4410
1951: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4682
1952: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5322
1953: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6253
1954: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6826
1955: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7255
1956: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7607

Chassis/engine costs - http://www.gprejects.com/forum/viewtopi ... 21#p370214
Damage costs - viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6253&start=360#p260024

Calendar
1. Moroccan Grand Prix (Anfa) - February 24th
2. Monaco Grand Prix (Monaco) - May 19th
3. French Grand Prix (Reims-Gueux) - June 16th
4. Belgian Grand Prix (Spa-Francorchamps) - July 7th
5. Dutch Grand Prix (Zandvoort) - July 14th
6. Irish Grand Prix (Wicklow) - July 28th
7. British Grand Prix (Silverstone) - August 4th
8. German Grand Prix (Nürburgring) - September 1st
9. Italian Grand Prix (Monza) - September 22nd
10. Spanish Grand Prix (Pedralbes) - October 6th
11. United States Grand Prix (Watkins Glen) - October 27th

Laps for each race
Anfa - 78 laps
Monaco - 100 laps
Reims - 43 laps
Spa - 25 laps
Zandvoort - 84 laps
Wicklow - 26 laps
Silverstone - 75 laps
Nürburgring - 16 laps
Monza - 35 laps
Pedralbes - 56 laps
Watkins Glen - 93 laps

Deceased drivers in the past five years
Joe James - November 5th 1952
Tazio Nuvolari - August 11th 1953
Charles de Tornaco - September 18th 1953
Felice Bonetto - November 21st 1953
Bobby Ball - February 27th 1954
Guy Mairesse - April 24th 1954
Wilbur Shaw - October 30th 1954
Clemente Biondetti - February 24th 1955
Mike Nazaruk - May 1st 1955
Manny Ayulo - May 17th 1955
Alberto Ascari - May 26th 1955
Bill Vukovich - May 30th 1955
Pierre Levegh - June 11th 1955
Don Beauman - July 9th 1955
Jack McGrath - November 6th 1955
Johnny Claes - February 3rd 1956
Dries van der Lof - June 3rd 1956
Bob Sweikert - June 17th 1956
André Milhoux - August 5th 1956
Tony Brooks - September 30th 1956
Paco Godia - September 30th 1956
Louis Rosier - October 29th 1956
Ken Wharton - January 12th 1957
Eugenio Castellotti - May 12th 1957
Piero Carini - May 30th 1957

Injured drivers by date of next availability
Gilberte Thirion: December 9th 1957
Jan Flinterman: March 12th 1958
Geoff Richardson: December 18th 1958
Peter Whitehead: May 11th 1959
Piero Taruffi: September 18th 1960
John Fitch: May 12th 1961

Manufacturers
Ferrari (Biscione)
- £724 742
Base: Maranello, Italy
Chassis: 801
R560
Engine: DS50
RS560

Cashflow
£0 - received 555 chassis 5 and 6 and 555 engines 5 and 6 from BRM
-£100 000 - chassis design: 801
-£60 000 - engine design: DS50
-£120 000 - built 801 chassis 1, 2 and 3 and DS50 engines 1, 2 and 3
-£2 167 - repair costs: R560 chassis 5
+£40 000 - sold 555 chassis 5 and 6 and 555 engines 5 and 6 to private collectors
-£12 012 - Anfa expenses
+£21 949 - Anfa prize money
-£575 - repairs: 801 chassis 3
-£13 466 - Monaco expenses
+£20 720 - Monaco prize money
-£10 676 - Reims expenses
+£22 285 - Reims prize money
-£5 376 - repair costs: DS50 engine 2
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 6 and RS560 engine 1 to Maarsbergen
-£11 541 - Spa expenses
+£26 160 - Spa prize money
-£780 - repair costs: 801 chassis 1
+£4 000 - scrapped R560 chassis 6 and RS560 engine 6
-£40 000 - built 801 chassis 4 and DS50 engine 4
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 1 and RS560 engine 1 to Maarsbergen
-£9 704 - Zandvoort expenses
+£30 571 - Zandvoort prize money
-£8 475 - repair costs: 801 chassis 1
+£1 500 - scrapped DS50 engine 4
+£16 000 - loaned R560 chassis 1 and 5 and RS560 engines 1 and 2 to Bekaert
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 3 and RS560 engine 7 to Ireland
-£8 151 - Wicklow expenses
+£20 750 - Wicklow prize money
-£710 - repair costs: RS560 engine 1
+£16 000 - loaned R560 chassis 1 and 5 and RS560 engines 1 and 2 to Bekaert
-£9 611 - Silverstone expenses
+£19 324 - Silverstone prize money
-£6 659 - repair costs: DS50 engine 1
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 1 and RS560 engine 1 to Maarsbergen
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 5 and RS560 engine 2 to Gendebien
-£10 348 - Nürburgring expenses
+£13 875 - Nürburgring prize money
-£15 874 - repair costs: R560 chassis 1 and 801 chassis 2
+£16 000 - loaned R560 chassis 1 and 4 and RS560 engines 2 and 7 to Marzotto
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 5 and RS560 engine 9 to Peduzzi
-£10 212 - Monza expenses
+£33 457 - Monza prize money
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 1 and RS560 engine 1 to Pegaso
+£8 000 - loaned R560 chassis 3 and RS560 engine 2 to de Oliveira
-£10 976 - Pedralbes expenses
+£24 125 - Pedralbes prize money
+£16 000 - loaned 801 chassis 1 and 2 and DS50 engines 1 and 3 to NART
-£8 299 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£13 675 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£24 296 - returned machinery to base
+£107 050 - post-season prize money
+£95 000 - sold R560 chassis 1, 3, 4 and 5 and RS560 engines 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 and 9 to collectors

Possessions
Ferrari 801 chassis 1
Ferrari 801 chassis 2
Ferrari 801 chassis 3
Ferrari 801 chassis 4
Ferrari DS50 engine 1
Ferrari DS50 engine 2
Ferrari DS50 engine 3

Gordini (peteroli34) - £966 819
Base: Blvd Victor, Paris 15th, France
Chassis: Type 56, available on command for £28 000
G-953
Engine: G258/A, available on command for £17 000
ART-004
The purchase of a full package reduces the cost from £45 000 to £43 000

Cashflow
-£11 661 - Anfa expenses
+£36 622 - Anfa prize money
+£8 000 - loaned Type 56 chassis 3 and G258/A engine 2 to Chiron
-£6 417 - Monaco expenses
+£7 840 - Monaco prize money
+£11 000 - sold Speed 4 chassis 11 to Ugolini
-£1 294 - repair costs: Type 56 chassis 2
+£8 000 - loaned Type 56 chassis 3 and G258/A engine 2 to Voeckler
+£8 000 - loaned AR161 chassis 7 and AR2V8 engine 5 to de Changy
+£6 000 - loaned 53C chassis 1 and F154 engine 3 to Lucas
-£9 328 - Reims expenses
+£4 163 - Reims prize money
-£10 885 - repair costs: Type 56 chassis 2
+£8 000 - loaned Type 56 chassis 3 and G258/A engine 2 to Voeckler
-£6 591 - Spa expenses
+£28 740 - Spa prize money
-£4 515 - repair costs: Type 56 chassis 2
+£8 000 - loaned Type 56 chassis 3 and G258/A engine 2 to Voeckler
+£8 000 - loaned AR161 chassis 2 and AR2V8 engine 2 to Tulpen en Windmolens
+£5 000 - loaned AR161 chassis 8 to Lucas
+£3 375 - loaned FG01 chassis 5 and SAMC-1A engine 3 to Loonmotor van Holland
-£6 714 - Zandvoort expenses
+£20 548 - Zandvoort prize money
-£8 151 - Wicklow expenses
+£7 288 - Wicklow prize money
-£22 437 - repair costs: G258/A engine 5
+£8 000 - loaned Type 56 chassis 3 and G258/A engine 2 to Voeckler
-£7 092 - Silverstone expenses
+£12 493 - Silverstone prize money
-£15 346 - repair costs: Type 56 chassis 1 and G258/A engine 1
+£8 000 - loaned Type 56 chassis 3 and G258/A engine 2 to Voeckler
-£7 761 - Nürburgring expenses
+£14 375 - Nürburgring prize money
-£23 648 - Monza expenses
+£20 192 - Monza prize money
-£12 292 - repair costs: Type 56 chassis 2
-£10 976 - Pedralbes expenses
+£24 589 - Pedralbes prize money
-£6 449 - repair costs: G258/A engine 5
-£33 196 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£26 887 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£26 694 - returned machinery to base
+£137 400 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Gordini Type 56 chassis 1
Gordini Type 56 chassis 2
Gordini Type 56 chassis 3
Gordini Type 56 chassis 4
Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 1
Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 2
Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 7
Alfa Romeo AR161 chassis 8
O.S.C.A. F154 chassis 4
Bentley 53C chassis 1
Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 5
Gordini G258/A engine 1
Gordini G258/A engine 2
Gordini G258/A engine 3
Gordini G258/A engine 5
Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 1
Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 2
Alfa Romeo AR2V8 engine 5
Balkan Lion F154 engine 3
Jaguar JFE-2 engine 7
Porsche 755 engine 5
Bentley 16VL-1 engine 11
Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 3

Maserati (FantometteBR) - £55 013
Base: Modena, Italy
Chassis: AM53
Engine: 56A, 200F
The combined AM53 and 200F package costs £40 000 (available on command)

Cashflow
-£20 000 - built 56A engine 4
+£10 000 - sold 66% of Cooper T41 IP to and received 10 chassis 3 and 5 from Lotus
-£4 017 - Anfa expenses
+£3 641 - Anfa prize money
-£5 876 - repairs: T41 chassis 2
-£2 298 - Monaco expenses
+£500 - Monaco prize money
-£3 990 - Reims expenses
+£4 430 - Reims prize money
-£2 744 - Spa expenses
+£1 480 - Spa prize money
-£2 351 - Zandvoort expenses
+£500 - Zandvoort prize money
-£2 283 - Nürburgring expenses
+£1 500 - Nürburgring prize money
-£2 591 - Monza expenses
+£2 350 - Monza prize money
-£3 063 - Pedralbes expenses
+£6 661 - Pedralbes prize money
-£1 270 - returned machinery to base
+£18 383 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Lotus 10 chassis 3
Lotus 10 chassis 5
Cooper T40 chassis 3
Cooper T41 chassis 2
Maserati 56A engine 2
Maserati 56A engine 4 (damaged: £18 256)

Lotus (Wizzie) - £735 658
Base: Gaydon, England
Chassis: 10, available at a price to be determined
AM-04
Engine: none so far

Cashflow
-£50 000 - built 10 chassis 6 and 7
+£50 000 - sold 10 chassis 6 and 7 to Walker
-£3 144 - repair costs: A/AS Griffin engine 6
-£10 000 - purchased 66% of IP of Cooper T41 from and sent 10 chassis 3 and 5 to Maserati
+£3 000 - loaned A/AS Griffin engine 6 to Ecosse
+£3 000 - loaned A/AS Griffin engine 6 to Ecosse
+£22 667 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Lotus 10 chassis 1
Lotus 10 chassis 2 (write-off)
B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 6
B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 7
B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 8
One very nice BRM calendar
Multiple wax figurines of Kenneth McAlpine

Ultimate (Shadaza) - £0 - DEFUNCT
Base: Strasbourg, France
Chassis: 002, none available for purchase
Engine: none planned

Cashflow
-£58 488 - left F1, money to bank

Possessions

O.S.C.A. (pi314159) - £1 629 380
Base: San Lazzaro di Savena, Bologna, Italy
Chassis: F156A available on command for £27 500
F156, available on command for £27 500
F154
Speed 3 (formerly Bentley)
53C (formerly Bentley)
Speed 4 (formerly Bentley)
Engine: 1557, available on command for £17 500
1500S-56, available on command for £12 500
156s
163-1 (formerly Bentley)
84-1 (formerly Bentley)
16VL-1 (formerly Bentley)

Cashflow
-£60 000 - engine design: 1557
-£30 000 - built 1557 engines 1 and 2
+£25 000 - sold 1557 engines 1 and 2 to Walker
-£40 000 - built F156A chassis 12 and 1557 engine 3
+£44 500 - sold F156A chassis 12 and 1557 engine 3 to Centro Sud
-£25 000 - built F156A chassis 13
+£50 000 - sold F156A chassis 10 and 13 to Owen
-£60 000 - built 1557 engines 4, 5, 6 and 7
-£40 000 - built F156A chassis 14 and 1557 engine 8
+£45 000 - sold F156A chassis 14 and 1557 engine 8 to Asso di Fiori
-£30 000 - built 1557 engines 9 and 10
+£35 000 - sold 1557 engines 9 and 10 to Connaught
+£12 500 - sold 1500S-56 engine 9 to Guastalla
-£15 000 - built 1557 engine 11
+£17 500 - sold 1557 engine 11 to Maghreb
-£16 152 - Anfa expenses
+£43 436 - Anfa prize money
-£50 000 - built F156A chassis 15 and 16
-£14 904 - Monaco expenses
+£59 970 - Monaco prize money
+£27 500 - sold F156A chassis 16 to Hampshire
-£27 407 - repair costs: F156A chassis 1
-£15 000 - built 1557 engine 12
-£25 000 - built F156A chassis 17
+£55 000 - sold F156A chassis 15 and 17 to Climax
-£10 676 - Reims expenses
+£22 332 - Reims prize money
-£8 788 - Spa expenses
+£65 750 - Spa prize money
+£3 000 - loaned 1500S-56 engine 4 to Lucas
-£8 952 - Zandvoort expenses
+£27 011 - Zandvoort prize money
-£14 950 - repair costs: F156A chassis 7
-£15 000 - built 1557 engine 13
+£3 000 - loaned 1557 engine 13 to IRC
-£10 868 - Wicklow expenses
+£49 424 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 354 - repair costs: F156A chassis 8
+£3 000 - loaned 1557 engine 13 to IRC
-£9 424 - Silverstone expenses
+£12 680 - Silverstone prize money
+£1 500 - scrapped 1557 engine 4
-£15 000 - built 1557 engine 14
-£10 348 - Nürburgring expenses
+£43 563 - Nürburgring prize money
-£5 000 - loaned F156A chassis 3 from Ecclestone
+£6 000 - loaned 1500S-56 engines 4 and 5 to Marzotto
+£3 000 - loaned 1557 engine 13 to Arzani-Volpini
-£13 147 - Monza expenses
+£28 485 - Monza prize money
-£9 247 - repair costs: F156A chassis 8
+£1 500 - scrapped 1557 engine 14
-£15 000 - built 1557 engine 15
-£10 976 - Pedralbes expenses
+£39 769 - Pedralbes prize money
+£3 000 - loaned 1557 engine 12 to Haskell
-£33 196 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£15 932 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£27 096 - returned machinery to base
+£403 825 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 5
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 6
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 7
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 8
Cooper T40 chassis 2
O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 4
O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 5
O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 6
O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 7
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 5 (damaged: £1 496)
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 6
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 7 (damaged: £14 946)
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 12
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 13
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 15

Coventry Climax (Miguel98) - £86 775
Base: Whitley, England
Chassis: none planned
Engine: FPF IV, available only for teams purchasing a Lotus 10 chassis for £20 000.
FPF III, available only for teams purchasing a Lotus 10 chassis for £17 500.
FPF I, available on command for £14 000.
FPF II, available on command for £14 000.

Cashflow
+£7 500 - sold FPF I engine 1 to collectors
-£55 000 - purchased F156A chassis 15 and 17 from O.S.C.A.
£0 - transfered F156A chassis 15 and 17 to Parnell
+£6 750 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Climax FPF IV engine 2

Vanwall (Nuppiz) - £184 015
Base: Acton, London, UK
Chassis: VW57, available on command for £28 000 (£27 000 for British customers)
VW56, available on command for £26 000 (£25 500 for British customers)
VW55, 2 available for £15 000 (£13 500 for British customers)
Engine: VE2, available on command for £17 500 (£17 000 for British customers)
254, available on command for £16 000 (£15 500 for British customers), 4 used available for £12 000 (£10 000 for British customers)
VW57-VE2 package available on command for £44 000 (£42 000 for British customers)

Cashflow
-£572 - repair costs: 254 engine 2
+£1 500 - scrapped 254 engine 6
+£20 000 - sold VW56 chassis 4 and 254 engine 1 to Owen
-£100 000 - chassis design: VW57
-£60 000 - engine design: VE2
-£40 000 - built VW57 chassis 1 and VE2 engine 1
-£4 083 - Anfa expenses
+£1 013 - Anfa prize money
-£669 - repairs: VW57 chassis 1
-£3 726 - Monaco expenses
+£13 730 - Monaco prize money
-£15 000 - built VE2 engine 2
+£17 000 - sold VE2 engine 2 to Hampshire
-£2 669 - Reims expenses
+£10 953 - Reims prize money
-£55 000 - built VW56 chassis 6 and VE2 engines 3 and 4
+£75 000 - sold VW56 chassis 5 and 6 and VE2 engines 3 and 4 to Norfolk
-£2 197 - Spa expenses
+£4 500 - Spa prize money
-£2 238 - Zandvoort expenses
+£8 107 - Zandvoort prize money
-£2 717 - Wicklow expenses
+£1 154 - Wicklow prize money
+£1 500 - scrapped VE2 engine 1
-£15 000 - built VE2 engine 5
+£6 500 - loaned VW55 chassis 1 and 254 engine 2 to Daily Express
-£2 356 - Silverstone expenses
+£1 423 - Silverstone prize money
-£2 587 - Nürburgring expenses
+£1 188 - Nürburgring prize money
-£5 323 - repair costs: VW57 chassis 1
-£2 553 - Monza expenses
+£8 221 - Monza prize money
-£2 744 - Pedralbes expenses
+£8 196 - Pedralbes prize money
-£1 223 - returned machinery to base
+£38 300 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Vanwall VW57 chassis 1
Vanwall VW55 chassis 1
Vanwall VW55 chassis 2
Vanwall VE2 engine 5
Vanwall 254 engine 2
Vanwall 254 engine 4
Vanwall 254 engine 7

Hernandez (Normal32) - £251 560
Base: Turin, Italy
Chassis: F56, available on command for £26 000
Engine: 155, available on command for £15 000
Combined package available for £40 000

Cashflow
+£5 000 - loaned T41 chassis 1 to Flockhart
-£2 548 - Reims expenses
+£1 419 - Reims prize money
-£2 197 - Spa expenses
+£3 960 - Spa prize money
-£2 875 - Wicklow expenses
+£3 558 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 944 - Nürburgring expenses
+£6 000 - Nürburgring prize money
+£5 000 - loaned T41 chassis 1 to Arzani-Volpini
-£2 553 - Monza expenses
+£1 976 - Monza prize money
+£2 500 - scrapped Tipo 56 chassis 1
-£142 - returned machinery to base
+£14 550 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Cooper T41 chassis 1
Hernandez H/258A engine 1
One very nice BRM calendar
One pristine wax figurine of Kenneth McAlpine

B.C.M.A. (kevinbotz) - £1 293 732
Base: Coventry, UK
Chassis: RP.1001
C-01
Engine: A/AS Wyvern
A/AS Griffin

Cashflow
-£100 000 - chassis design: RP.1001
-£60 000 - engine design: A/AS Wyvern
-£120 000 - built RP.1001 chassis 1, 2 and 3 and A/AS Wyvern engines 1, 2 and 3
-£12 450 - Anfa expenses
+£32 674 - Anfa prize money
-£11 178 - Monaco expenses
+£28 010 - Monaco prize money
-£6 281 - repair costs: RP.1001 chassis 2
+£3 000 - scrapped A/AS Griffin engines 2 and 5
-£15 000 - built A/AS Griffin engine 9
+£25 000 - sold C-01 chassis 3 and A/AS Griffin engine 9 to Ugolini
+£625 - loaned C-01.EX chassis 2 and 84-1 engine 2 to Picard
-£8 007 - Reims expenses
+£37 256 - Reims prize money
-£6 591 - Spa expenses
+£6 180 - Spa prize money
-£6 714 - Zandvoort expenses
+£37 488 - Zandvoort prize money
+£13 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 1 and 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 to Ecosse
-£8 151 - Wicklow expenses
+£41 385 - Wicklow prize money
+£13 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 1 and 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 to Ecosse
-£7 068 - Silverstone expenses
+£58 047 - Silverstone prize money
+£7 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 to Walker
-£7 761 - Nürburgring expenses
+£33 813 - Nürburgring prize money
-£1 355 - repair costs: RP.1001 chassis 3
+£7 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 to Walker
-£7 659 - Monza expenses
+£3 400 - Monza prize money
+£3 000 - scrapped A/AS Wyvern engines 1 and 3
-£30 000 - built A/AS Wyvern engines 4 and 5
+£7 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 to Walker
-£8 232 - Pedralbes expenses
+£32 429 - Pedralbes prize money
-£7 050 - repair costs: RP.1001 chassis 3
-£24 897 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£55 618 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£18 410 - returned machinery to base
+£339 475 - post-season prize money

Possessions
B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 1
B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 2
B.C.M.A. RP.1001 chassis 3 (damaged: £1 906)
B.C.M.A. C-01 chassis 1
B.C.M.A. C-01 chassis 4
B.C.M.A. C-01.EX chassis 1 (damaged: £195)
B.C.M.A. C-01.EX chassis 2
B.C.M.A. C-01.EX chassis 3 (damaged: £183)
B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 2
B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 4
B.C.M.A. A/AS Wyvern engine 5
B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 1 (damaged: £10 230)
Bentley 84-1 engine 2
Bentley 84-1 engine 3
Bentley 84-1 engine 4

Loonmotor (Salamander) - £33 853
Base: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Chassis: FG01
Engine: SAMC-1A, available on command for £9 500

Cashflow
-£2 229 - Spa expenses
£0 - loaned Speed 4 chassis 11 from Ugolini and 254 engine 2 from Vanwall
-£7 261 - Zandvoort expenses
+£500 - Zandvoort prize money
-£4 782 - Silverstone expenses
-£5 174 - Nürburgring expenses
+£1 000 - Nürburgring prize money
-£5 106 - Monza expenses
-£1 658 - returned machinery to base
+£6 400 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 1
Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 2
Guidobaldi FG01 chassis 3
Mercedes-Benz UM153 engine 10
Mercedes-Benz UM153 engine 14
Loonmotor SAMC-1A engine 1
12 very nice BRM calendars
One pristine wax figurine of Kenneth McAlpine
One 18-carat gold statue of Tony Vandervell crushing a hammer & sickle
One copy of the "Hunt the Commie" board game

British Racing Motors (V8fan12) - £15 823
Base: Aintree, UK
Chassis: P25, available on command for £25 000
Engine: P25, available on command for £20 000
Combined package: £40 000

Cashflow
£0 - returned 555 chassis 5 and 6 and 555 engines 5 and 6 to Ferrari
-£50 000 - engine design: P26
-£25 000 - built P26 engines 1 and 2
-£25 000 - built P26 engines 3 and 4
+£32 000 - sold P26 engines 3 and 4 to Owen
-£8 492 - Anfa expenses
+£2 667 - Anfa prize money
-£7 452 - Monaco expenses
+£1 000 - Monaco prize money
-£2 754 - Spa expenses
+£500 - Spa prize money
+£6 250 - loaned P25 chassis 1 and P26 engine 1 to Anglaise
-£1 461 - returned machinery to base
+£15 050 - post-season prize money

Possessions
BRM P25 chassis 1
BRM P25 chassis 2
BRM P25 engine 1
BRM P25 engine 2
BRM P26 engine 1
BRM P26 engine 2

DB (Normal32) - £52 559
Base: Champigny-sur-Marne, France
Chassis: 01
Engine: 84-1

Cashflow
-£12 000 - purchased 16VL-1 engines 6 and 8 from Connaught
-£3 894 - Anfa expenses
+£500 - Anfa prize money
+£3 000 - loaned 16VL-1 engine 8 to Flockhart
-£3 990 - Reims expenses
+£500 - Reims prize money
-£2 197 - Spa expenses
-£2 238 - Zandvoort expenses
-£2 717 - Wicklow expenses
+£500 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 944 - Nürburgring expenses
+£500 - Nürburgring prize money
-£2 553 - Monza expenses
-£2 744 - Pedralbes expenses
+£500 - Pedralbes prize money
-£828 - returned machinery to base
-£14 375 - built 01 chassis 2 and 84-1 engine 2
+£5 000 - sold 01 chassis 2 and 84-1 engine 2 to Norfolk
-£3 017 - purchased LF153 chassis 3, 002 chassis a and b, UM153 engines 8 and 12, 555 engine 10 and 1500S-56 engine 9 at auction
-£1 000 - donated money to Norfolk
+£57 500 - sold 002 chassis a and b, 16VL-1 engines 6 and 8, UM153 engines 8 and 12 and 1500S-56 engine 9 to collectors
+£5 550 - post-season prize money

Possessions
DB 01 chassis 1
Leader LF153 chassis 3
DB 84-1 engine 1
Ferrari 555 engine 10

Connaught (Gonzalez) - £31 808
Base: Send, Surrey
Chassis: Type B

Cashflow
+£12 000 - sold 16VL-1 engines 6 and 8 to DB
+£22 000 - sold FPF IV engines 1 and 4 to Cooper
-£35 000 - purchased 1557 engines 9 and 10 from O.S.C.A.
-£4 780 - Reims expenses
+£1 500 - Reims prize money
-£4 394 - Spa expenses
+£3 880 - Spa prize money
-£4 476 - Zandvoort expenses
+£500 - Zandvoort prize money
-£5 434 - Wicklow expenses
+£4 346 - Wicklow prize money
£0 - loaned Type B chassis 1 and 1557 engine 9 to Daily Express and Type B chassis 2 and 1557 engine 10 to Flockhart
-£5 888 - Nürburgring expenses
+£4 688 - Nürburgring prize money
-£5 106 - Monza expenses
+£7 057 - Monza prize money
-£5 488 - Pedralbes expenses
+£2 447 - Pedralbes prize money
-£8 299 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£500 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£6 756 - returned machinery to base
+£11 950 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Connaught Type B chassis 1
Connaught Type B chassis 2
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 9
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 10

Volga (Aislabie) - £0 - CEASED OPERATIONS
Base: Kaliningrad, USSR
Chassis: NK1 (Available for 3,000 to Soviet Allies*; for 5,000 to others)
Engine: GZ1 (Available for 3,000 to Soviet Allies*; for 5,000 to others)

Cashflow
-£10 000 - chassis design: NK1
-£10 000 - engine design: GZ1
-£40 000 - built NK1 chassis 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 and GZ1 engines 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8
-£10 426 - Anfa expenses
+£1 000 - Anfa prize money
-£3 543 - Monaco expenses
+£500 - Monaco prize money
-£3 284 - Reims expenses
-£25 671 - Spa expenses
+£1 000 - Spa prize money
-£4 476 - Zandvoort expenses
-£2 875 - Wicklow expenses
+£500 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 519 - Silverstone expenses
-£18 377 - Nürburgring expenses
+£1 500 - Nürburgring prize money
-£5 106 - Monza expenses
-£8 796 - returned machinery to base
-£9 427 - ceased motorsport operations, transferred assets to USSR

Possessions

Irish Racing Cars (Simtek) - £67 533
Base: Clondalkin, Ireland
Chassis: Mk1

Cashflow
-£100 000 - chassis design: Mk1
-£25 000 - built Mk1 chassis 1
-£3 000 - loaned 1557 engine 13 from O.S.C.A.
-£2 042 - Wicklow expenses
+£8 250 - Wicklow prize money
-£3 000 - loaned 1557 engine 13 from O.S.C.A.
-£2 356 - Silverstone expenses
+£2 967 - Silverstone prize money
-£386 - returned machinery to base
+£12 100 - post-season prize money

Possessions
IRC Mk1 chassis 1

Customers
Asso di Fiori (RonDenisDeletraz) - £173 869
Base: Bologna, Italy
Cashflow
-£45 000 - purchased F156A chassis 14 and 1557 engine 8
+£30 000 - scrapped AM-04 chassis 10 and sold AM-04 chassis 5 and JFE-2 engines 8 and 10 to collectors
-£4 038 - Anfa expenses
+£4 410 - Anfa prize money
-£3 726 - Monaco expenses
+£8 220 - Monaco prize money
-£2 669 - Reims expenses
+£1 349 - Reims prize money
-£2 197 - Spa expenses
+£6 000 - Spa prize money
-£2 875 - Wicklow expenses
+£1 077 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 356 - Silverstone expenses
+£18 460 - Silverstone prize money
-£3 040 - Monza expenses
+£28 000 - Monza prize money
-£2 744 - Pedralbes expenses
+£1 036 - Pedralbes prize money
-£8 299 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£10 914 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£6 767 - returned machinery to base
+£38 500 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 4
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 14
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 8
O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 3

Hampshire Racing Alliance (East Londoner) - £75 747
Base: Derby, England
Cashflow
+£47 500 - sold VW56 chassis 2 and 3, 254 engine 5, 156s engine 10 and 1500S-56 engine 2
-£44 500 - purchased F156A chassis 16 from O.S.C.A. and VE2 engine 2 from Vanwall
-£2 557 - Reims expenses
+£2 058 - Reims prize money
-£2 197 - Spa expenses
+£4 210 - Spa prize money
-£2 875 - Wicklow expenses
+£1 231 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 356 - Silverstone expenses
+£500 - Silverstone prize money
+£5 000 - loaned F156A chassis 16 to Marzotto
-£2 744 - Pedralbes expenses
+£1 071 - Pedralbes prize money
+£5 000 - loaned F156A chassis 16 to Haskell
-£5 507 - returned machinery to base
+£5 050 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 16
Vanwall VE2 engine 2
2 very nice BRM calendars
Two suggestively positioned wax figurines of Kenneth McAlpine
Two majestic gold-plated statues of Tony Vandervell crushing a hammer & sickle
Two copies of the "Hunt the Commie" board game

Assasti Millanti (andrew) - £0 - DEFUNCT
Base: Milan, Italy
Cashflow
-£2 037 - left F1, money to bank, LF153 chassis 3, 002 chassis a and b and UM153 engines 8 and 12 put up for auction

Possessions

Ecurie Albertini (Pointrox) - £0 - DEFUNCT
Base: Monaco
Cashflow
-£16 910 - left F1, money to bank, 555 engine 10 put up for auction

Possessions

Bernie C. Ecclestone (Klon) - £170 806
Base: Bexleyheath, UK
Cashflow
+£5 000 - loaned F156A chassis 3 to O.S.C.A.
+£5 000 - loaned F156A chassis 2 to Marzotto
-£1 868 - returned machinery to base
+£1 250 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 2
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 3

Ecurie Maghreb (CaptainGetz12) - £7 290
Base: Anfa, Morocco
Cashflow
-£17 500 - purchased 1557 engine 11 from O.S.C.A.
-£2 000 - Anfa expenses
+£5 186 - Anfa prize money
-£3 726 - Monaco expenses
+£500 - Monaco prize money
-£2 754 - Spa expenses
+£5 250 - Spa prize money
-£2 238 - Zandvoort expenses
+£500 - Zandvoort prize money
-£2 717 - Wicklow expenses
+£1 038 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 356 - Silverstone expenses
+£500 - Silverstone prize money
-£2 587 - Nürburgring expenses
+£1 313 - Nürburgring prize money
-£2 214 - returned machinery to base
+£5 500 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 11 (damaged: £2 718)
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 11
O.S.C.A. 156s engine 3

State Committee for Sports and Body Culture of USSR (Wizzie) - £76 255
Base: Moscow, USSR
Cashflow
+£9 427 - received assets from Volga
+£5 950 - post-season prize money

Possessions
GAZ OK01 chassis 1
Volga NK1 chassis 1
Volga NK1 chassis 2
Volga NK1 chassis 3
Volga NK1 chassis 4
Volga NK1 chassis 5
Volga NK1 chassis 6
Volga NK1 chassis 7
Volga NK1 chassis 8
GAZ M650 engine 1
Volga GZ1 engine 1
Volga GZ1 engine 2
Volga GZ1 engine 3
Volga GZ1 engine 4
Volga GZ1 engine 5
Volga GZ1 engine 6
Volga GZ1 engine 7
Volga GZ1 engine 8

Julius Kubinsky (pi314159) - £57 920
Base: Brno, Czechoslovakia
Cashflow
-£2 677 - Monza expenses
-£677 - returned machinery to base
+£550 - post-season prize money

Possessions
JK Mono 3000 chassis 1 (damaged - £24 081)
JK Mono IV chassis 1
Tatra F1 V8 engine 1
Wartburg 310 engine 1

Scuderia Adriatica (novitopoli) - £11 495
Base: Bari, Italy
Cashflow
-£8 626 - Anfa expenses
+£1 500 - Anfa prize money
-£4 782 - repairs: D50 chassis 2
-£7 452 - Monaco expenses
+£1 000 - Monaco prize money
-£5 338 - Reims expenses
+£1 709 - Reims prize money
-£4 394 - Spa expenses
+£1 000 - Spa prize money
-£4 476 - Zandvoort expenses
-£5 434 - Wicklow expenses
+£2 538 - Wicklow prize money
+£5 000 - scrapped D50 chassis 1 and 2
-£3 820 - Silverstone expenses
-£2 587 - Nürburgring expenses
+£1 500 - Nürburgring prize money
-£2 553 - Monza expenses
+£500 - Monza prize money
-£2 744 - Pedralbes expenses
+£500 - Pedralbes prize money
-£1 231 - returned machinery to base
+£4 850 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Lancia D50 chassis 4
Lancia DS50 engine 3
Lancia DS50 engine 4

Scuderia Centro Sud (pasta_maldonado) - £32 678
Base: Rome, Italy
Cashflow
-£44 500 - purchased F156A chassis 12 and 1557 engine 3 from O.S.C.A.
-£4 924 - Monaco expenses
+£5 810 - Monaco prize money
£0 - loaned 1557 engine 12 from O.S.C.A.
-£5 338 - Reims expenses
+£11 860 - Reims prize money
-£4 394 - Spa expenses
+£4 280 - Spa prize money
-£4 476 - Zandvoort expenses
+£11 369 - Zandvoort prize money
-£5 434 - Wicklow expenses
+£7 711 - Wicklow prize money
-£4 712 - Silverstone expenses
+£2 213 - Silverstone prize money
-£7 318 - repairs costs: F156A chassis 12
-£5 174 - Nürburgring expenses
+£9 563 - Nürburgring prize money
-£5 106 - Monza expenses
+£3 436 - Monza prize money
-£978 - returned machinery to base
+£10 900 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 1
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 12
O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 1 (damaged: £8 008)
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 3 (damaged: £6 185)

MSG Köthen (Rated) - £66 283
Base: Köthen, East Germany
Cashflow
-£2 634 - Reims expenses
+£2 878 - Reims prize money
-£2 197 - Spa expenses
+£6 750 - Spa prize money
-£2 238 - Zandvoort expenses
+£500 - Zandvoort prize money
-£2 283 - Nürburgring expenses
+£1 500 - Nürburgring prize money
-£2 553 - Monza expenses
+£1 343 - Monza prize money
-£711 - returned machinery to base
+£6 250 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 9
O.S.C.A. 1500S-56 engine 8

Owen Racing Organisation (Ataxia) - £307 294
Base: Bourne, UK
Cashflow
-£50 000 - purchased F156A chassis 10 and 13 from O.S.C.A.
-£20 000 - purchased VW56 chassis 4 and 254 engine 1 from Vanwall
-£32 000 - purchased P26 engines 3 and 4 from BRM
-£4 986 - Reims expenses
+£8 238 - Reims prize money
-£4 394 - Spa expenses
+£4 650 - Spa prize money
-£4 052 - repair costs: F156A chassis 10
-£4 476 - Zandvoort expenses
+£9 547 - Zandvoort prize money
-£5 434 - Wicklow expenses
+£2 654 - Wicklow prize money
-£10 717 - repair costs: P26 engine 4
-£4 712 - Silverstone expenses
+£8 670 - Silverstone prize money
-£5 174 - Nürburgring expenses
+£9 188 - Nürburgring prize money
-£5 106 - Monza expenses
+£10 714 - Monza prize money
-£5 488 - Pedralbes expenses
+£2 232 - Pedralbes prize money
-£2 560 - returned machinery to base
+£10 500 - post-season prize money

Possessions
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 10
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 13
Vanwall VW56 chassis 4
Vanwall 254 engine 1
BRM P26 engine 3
BRM P26 engine 4

Rob Walker Racing (Wizzie) - £139 910
Base: Dorking, UK
Cashflow
-£50 000 - purchased 10 chassis 6 and 7 from Lotus
-£25 000 - purchased 1557 engines 1 and 2 from O.S.C.A.
-£8 106 - Anfa expenses
+£4 654 - Anfa prize money
-£15 778 - repairs: 10 chassis 6 and 7
-£7 452 - Monaco expenses
+£10 760 - Monaco prize money
-£5 338 - Reims expenses
+£15 633 - Reims prize money
-£4 394 - Spa expenses
+£2 640 - Spa prize money
-£9 021 - repairs: 1557 engine 2
-£4 476 - Zandvoort expenses
+£8 309 - Zandvoort prize money
-£8 449 - repair costs: 10 chassis 6
-£4 760 - Silverstone expenses
+£14 203 - Silverstone prize money
-£7 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 from B.C.M.A.
-£7 761 - Nürburgring expenses
+£8 438 - Nürburgring prize money
-£7 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 from B.C.M.A.
-£7 659 - Monza expenses
+£27 186 - Monza prize money
-£7 000 - loaned C-01 chassis 4 and A/AS Griffin engine 1 from B.C.M.A.
-£8 232 - Pedralbes expenses
+£20 143 - Pedralbes prize money
-£16 598 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£9 514 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£11 300 - returned machinery to base
+£23 700 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Lotus 10 chassis 6
Lotus 10 chassis 7
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 1
O.S.C.A. 1557 engine 2

Scuderia Guastalla (Dexter249) - £0 - DEFUNCT
Base: Guastalla, Italy
Cashflow
-£12 500 - purchased 1500S-56 engine 9 from O.S.C.A.
-£37 500 - left F1, money to bank, 1500S-56 engine 9 put up for auction

Possessions

Scuderia Ugolini (Pasta) - £59 791
Base: Vignola, Italy

Cashflow
-£25 000 - purchased C-01 chassis 3 and A/AS Griffin engine 9 from B.C.M.A.
-£11 000 - purchased Speed 4 chassis 11 from Gordini
-£2 755 - Reims expenses
+£3 151 - Reims prize money
-£2 197 - Spa expenses
+£500 - Spa prize money
-£2 238 - Zandvoort expenses
-£2 717 - Wicklow expenses
+£2 038 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 356 - Silverstone expenses
-£2 587 - Nürburgring expenses
+£3 688 - Nürburgring prize money
-£2 553 - Monza expenses
+£500 - Monza prize money
-£1 183 - returned machinery to base
+£4 500 - post-season prize money

Possessions
B.C.M.A. C-01 chassis 3
Bentley Speed 4 chassis 11
B.C.M.A. A/AS Griffin engine 9

Reg Parnell Racing (This) - £6 351
Base: Surbiton, Surrey
Also on sale: T41 model cars, available for £2

Cashflow
-£22 000 - purchased FPF IV engines 1 and 4 from Connaught
-£5 906 - repair costs: T41 chassis 5
-£4 069 - Anfa expenses
+£4 135 - Anfa prize money
+£2 500 - scrapped T41 chassis 7
-£6 060 - Monaco expenses
+£4 940 - Monaco prize money
£0 - transferred 33% of Cooper T41 IP to Maserati and became Reg Parnell Racing
£0 - received F156A chassis 15 and 17 from Climax
-£7 722 - Reims expenses
+£1 500 - Reims prize money
-£6 847 - Spa expenses
+£3 300 - Spa prize money
-£2 238 - Zandvoort expenses
+£1 - sold BRM calendar to a collector
-£8 467 - Wicklow expenses
+£9 058 - Wicklow prize money
+£1 500 - scrapped FPF IV engine 1
+£12 500 - sold T41 chassis 5 to a private collector
-£7 068 - Silverstone expenses
-£270 - returned machinery to base
+£5 350 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Cooper T41 chassis 6
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 15
O.S.C.A. F156A chassis 17
Maserati 56A engine 1
Climax FPF IV engine 3
Climax FPF IV engine 4
One very nice BRM calendar

Norfolk Engineering (Bandon23) - £10 204
Base: Norwich, Norfolk
Cashflow
-£75 000 - purchased VW56 chassis 5 and 6 and VE2 engines 3 and 4 from Vanwall
-£4 806 - Spa expenses
+£3 710 - Spa prize money
-£4 476 - Zandvoort expenses
+£1 548 - Zandvoort prize money
-£5 434 - Wicklow expenses
+£8 500 - Wicklow prize money
-£2 882 - repair costs: VE2 engine 4
-£4 712 - Silverstone expenses
+£4 060 - Silverstone prize money
-£3 090 - repair costs: VW56 chassis 6
-£5 174 - Nürburgring expenses
+£2 626 - Nürburgring prize money
+£4 000 - scrapped VW56 chassis 5 and VE2 engine 3
-£2 553 - Monza expenses
+£1 257 - Monza prize money
-£2 744 - Pedralbes expenses
+£2 661 - Pedralbes prize money
-£8 299 - Watkins Glen expenses
+£2 809 - Watkins Glen prize money
-£5 697 - returned machinery to base
-£5 000 - purchased 01 chassis 2 and 84-1 engine 2 from DB
+£1 000 - received donation from DB
+£7 900 - post-season prize money

Possessions
Vanwall VW56 chassis 6
DB 01 chassis 2
Vanwall VE2 engine 4
DB 84-1 engine 2
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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Cooper most likely is planning to enter 5 races. I'm likely sticking to the T41.
Due to our co-operation with Maserati, i can not decide to lower our prices on my own, but 35000/25000/55000 defenitely proved to be way too expensive for what we have in offer. The car is getting old, so i suggest simply reducing it to merely the construction prize (25000) and the engines to below 20000 and the package to below 45000. Simply nobody is going to pay much more for our cars. Especially considering that you can get Gordinis or Oscas for less money.

I figured that 1957 might be good to enter Ecurie Maarsbergen as a privateer in Netherlands and possibly Germany and Belgium. I'd like to wait to see which manufacturers will be available before i buy something. I suppose that buying a Cooper would be considered 'conflict of interest' ?
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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This wrote:Cooper most likely is planning to enter 5 races. I'm likely sticking to the T41.
Due to our co-operation with Maserati, i can not decide to lower our prices on my own, but 35000/25000/55000 defenitely proved to be way too expensive for what we have in offer. The car is getting old, so i suggest simply reducing it to merely the construction prize (25000) and the engines to below 20000 and the package to below 40000. Simply nobody is going to pay much more for our cars. Especially considering that you can get Gordinis or Oscas for less money.

I figured that 1957 might be good to enter Ecurie Maarsbergen as a privateer in Netherlands and possibly Germany and Belgium. I'd like to wait to see which manufacturers will be available before i buy something. I suppose that buying a Cooper would be considered 'conflict of interest' ?

I would not recommend lowering a package below £40 000, as this is below build cost. Most manufacturers sell at a profit, around £45 000. Ultimately the pricing is up to you, though.

As for Maarsbergen, if you want to avoid a lot of headaches, I'd recommend entering as a budget-less privateer, which only requires renting cars from other teams. You may not rent cars from teams you own, but nothing's stopping you from loaning a Cooper from another team, or getting someone else to loan yours for you.
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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tommykl wrote:
This wrote:Cooper most likely is planning to enter 5 races. I'm likely sticking to the T41.
Due to our co-operation with Maserati, i can not decide to lower our prices on my own, but 35000/25000/55000 defenitely proved to be way too expensive for what we have in offer. The car is getting old, so i suggest simply reducing it to merely the construction prize (25000) and the engines to below 20000 and the package to below 40000. Simply nobody is going to pay much more for our cars. Especially considering that you can get Gordinis or Oscas for less money.

I figured that 1957 might be good to enter Ecurie Maarsbergen as a privateer in Netherlands and possibly Germany and Belgium. I'd like to wait to see which manufacturers will be available before i buy something. I suppose that buying a Cooper would be considered 'conflict of interest' ?

I would not recommend lowering a package below £40 000, as this is below build cost. Most manufacturers sell at a profit, around £45 000. Ultimately the pricing is up to you, though.

As for Maarsbergen, if you want to avoid a lot of headaches, I'd recommend entering as a budget-less privateer, which only requires renting cars from other teams. You may not rent cars from teams you own, but nothing's stopping you from loaning a Cooper from another team, or getting someone else to loan yours for you.

The 40000 was a typo. Typos aren't helping my cause :D I'll correct it. Well, Maarsbergen will wait, renting is certainly an option, as there's no Porsches available (and De Beaufort might be rich, but not rich enough to enter a works team) There might get new manufacturers involved and they have time until the first Germanic speaking race of the season.
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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This wrote:Well, Maarsbergen will wait, renting is certainly an option, as there's no Porsches available (and De Beaufort might be rich, but not rich enough to enter a works team)

Gordini has a Porsche 755 engine in its inventory. There are no Porsche chassis left kicking about however.
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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Owen Racing Organisation will be making more than a few token entries this year. So, we need like, a car, an engine...oh, and some money.

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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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Since Simtek has formally left the Forum, i will have to resume control of Centro Sud, but because of my team Connaught in which i will also be entering this season, i will be altering my management between the 2 teams on altering races for the time being.

Here is my draft proposal and it's subject to change.

Moroccan Grand Prix - Centro Sud
Monaco Grand Prix - None
French Grand Prix - Connaught
Belgian Grand Prix - Centro Sud
Dutch Grand Prix - Centro Sud
Irish Grand Prix - Connaught
British Grand Prix - Connaught
German Grand Prix - Centro Sud
Italian Grand Prix - Centro Sud
Spanish Grand Prix - Centro Sud
United States Grand Prix - None



Centro Sud is currently open to anyone willing to take over. I would highly recommend new owners. If anyone is willing to take over Centro Sud, do let me know.

More info and plans will be posted shortly.
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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Gonzalez wrote:
Centro Sud is currently open to anyone willing to take over. I would highly recommend new owners. If anyone is willing to take over Centro Sud, do let me know.

More info and plans will be posted shortly.

I put my hat into the ring to assume control of Scuderia Centro Sud
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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Ataxia wrote:Owen Racing Organisation will be making more than a few token entries this year. So, we need like, a car, an engine...oh, and some money.

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Vanwall is ready to supply Owen Racing Organisation with their finest British-built racing machinery.

In anticipation of a new chassis design for this year, the VW55 will be dropped from Vanwall's manufacturing schedule. We'll likely design a new engine as well (the current design is two years old by now), but until we know more about the revised costs we won't lock into any plans yet.

The existing VW55s still in stock will be sold at a discount price of £15 000 (£13 500 for British customers). Vanwall VW56 chassis 4 is on sale for £24 000 (£23 000 for British customers). The price of a new VW56 is £27 500 (£27 000 for British customers).

Used, but factory refurbished 254 engines are available for £12 000 (£10 000 for British customers). New 254 engines will cost £16 000 (£15 500 for British customers).

Package deals (chassis + engine) carry additional discounts; these will be negotiated separatedly with each customer.

Vanwall 254 engine 2 will be refurbished and put in storage. Vanwall 254 engine 6 is deemed a total loss and will be sold for scrap metal.
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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

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Re: Alt-1957: It begins.

Post by Bobby Doorknobs »

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Gonzalez wrote:
Centro Sud is currently open to anyone willing to take over. I would highly recommend new owners. If anyone is willing to take over Centro Sud, do let me know.

More info and plans will be posted shortly.

I put my hat into the ring to assume control of Scuderia Centro Sud

Just want to drop in to say I fully support Mr. P. Maldonado's candidacy for the Centro Sud managerial role.

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pasta_maldonado wrote:
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Centro Sud is currently open to anyone willing to take over. I would highly recommend new owners. If anyone is willing to take over Centro Sud, do let me know.

More info and plans will be posted shortly.

I put my hat into the ring to assume control of Scuderia Centro Sud



After a formal chat in the Mibbit Channal, i can now announce i will be giving Pasta control of Centro Sud. He will sort out the team from this point onwards.
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Ecurie Voeckler intends to return as a non-budgeted privateer in 1957. We hope to enter the French, Belgian, Dutch, British and German GPs. We hope that Gordini will consider renting us a package for these events, given their extremely close proximity to our team base in Paris.

Ecurie Ecosse will return for the British and Irish GPs, and have agreed a rental deal with B.C.M.A for a full package at each event.
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Gonzalez wrote:After a formal chat in the Mibbit Channal, i can now announce i will be giving Pasta control of Centro Sud. He will sort out the team from this point onwards.

With this announcement, Scuderia Centro-Sud intends to continue in 1957, with an aim of attending all European races bar Monaco.
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Rob Walker Racing formally announce their intention to run the whole 1957 campaign. They will buy two Lotus 10 chassis from Team Lotus at cost price, and buy two OSCA engines at $12 500 each, as agreed to with Pi. Lotus themselves will not be entering any races in 1957, but plan to return in 1958 with an all-new car.
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Adriatica will go on as a two-car operation with the Lancias we bought at the auction - our goal is to run all rounds bar the US one.
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Maserati will still run a one-car operation so far, mostly based at the continental rounds unless Cooper or other partner tells us otherwise
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Wizzie wrote:Rob Walker Racing formally announce their intention to run the whole 1957 campaign. They will buy two Lotus 10 chassis from Team Lotus at cost price, and buy two OSCA engines at $12 500 each, as agreed to with Pi. Lotus themselves will not be entering any races in 1957, but plan to return in 1958 with an all-new car.

OSCA confirm the deal with Rob Walker. I'll decide on building a new engine once the new RNG ranges and costs are posted. Since I promised Rob Walker the latest specification of engines, they will be delivered once I have decided whether to build a new engine.
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I have the intention of eventually bringing both Lola and Cosworth into this series. Don't quite know when though, as both commenced in real life in 1958.
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Volga Testa Russo will be flying the Soviet flag with pride this year as a manufacturer. Build plans will be penned as soon as Volga's budget and the build costs have both been released.
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Gordini will return in 1957 to defend its titles for what possibly maybe its swansong year.
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Owen Racing Organisation, Rob Walker Racing and Volga Testa Russo have been given budgets. And now...

Chassis
Design cost/Building cost/Performance
5 000//1 250//0-6
10 000//2 500//0-7.5
15 000//3 750//0-9
20 000//5 000//0-10.5
25 000//6 250//1.5-12
30 000//7 500//3-13.5
35 000//8 750//4.5-15
40 000//10 000//6-16.5
45 000//11 250//7.5-18
50 000//12 500//9-19.5
55 000//13 750//10.5-21
60 000//15 000//12-22.5
65 000//16 250//13.5-24
70 000//17 500//15-25.5
75 000//18 750//16.5-27
80 000//20 000//18-28.5
85 000//21 250//19.5-30
90 000//22 500//21-30
95 000//23 750//22.5-30
100 000//25 000//24-30

Engines
5 000//1 250//0-4
10 000//2 500//0-6.5
15 000//3 750//0-9
20 000//5 000//0-11.5
25 000//6 250//2.5-14
30 000//7 500//5-16.5
35 000//8 750//7.5-19
40 000//10 000//10-21.5
45 000//11 250//12.5-24
50 000//12 500//15-24
55 000//13 750//17.5-24
60 000//15 000//20-24

The system is the same as last year, with the only differences being in the RNG ranges. See this post for a full explanation of the workings of the RNG.

The above post also goes over the procedure for driver signings, which is the same as for last season.

You may now design and build new cars and sign drivers. The deadline for driver signings will be announced at a later date, with a few days' notice given beforehand.
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O.S.C.A. will design a new engine for 60,000, the OSCA 1557, which will be available to customers for 17,500. Rob Walker will receive the new engines for the previously agreed price.

Our existing OSCA 1500S-56 engines will be available to customers for 12,500.

The OSCA F156A chassis continues to be available to customers for 27,500
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Scuderia Centro-Sud will purchase one O.S.C.A. F156A chassis and one O.S.C.A. 1557 engine for a total price of £44500.
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BRM plans:

We will design a new engine for 50,000. 2x BRM P26 engines will be built for 25,000

(drivers ranked in order of preference)

Car 1 (BRM P25 chassis 1-BRM P26 engine 1)
1. Paul Frere
2. Horace Gould
3. Les Leston
4. Archie Scott-Brown

Car 2 (BRM P25 chassis 2-BRM P26 engine 1)
1. Jack Fairman
2. Bob Gerard
3. Ninian Sanderson
4. Ivor Bueb

We are also still selling BRM calendars for £2. 1957 calendars are now in stock :D
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V8fan12 wrote:BRM plans:
(drivers ranked in order of preference)

Car 1 (BRM P25 chassis 1-BRM P25 engine 1)
1. Paul Frere
2. Horace Gould
3. Les Leston
4. Archie Scott-Brown

Car 2 (BRM P25 chassis 2-BRM P25 engine 2)
1. Jack Fairman
2. Bob Gerard
3. Ninian Sanderson
4. Ivor Bueb

Car 3 (AAC 555 chassis 5-AAC 555 engine 5) - part-time entry (for at this stage):
Irish & British GPs - Ninian Sanderson or Archie-Scott Brown (2nd pick)
French & Belgian GP - Jean Behra or Jean Guichet (2nd pick)

AAC 555 chassis 6-AAC 555 engine 6 will be used as a spare car

We would also like to remind any privateers that the P25 chassis is available for £25,000 or a combined package for £40,000

We are also still selling BRM calendars for £2. 1957 calendars are now in stock :D

BRM should be aware they do not own any of the AAC equipment in question. It was sent to them on a loan basis, and you did not trigger the right of redemption in the agreed timeframe, so this equipment should be in our inventory if it currently is not.
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Scuderia Adriatica plans:

Car 1 (Lancia D50 chassis 1, Lancia DS50 engine 3)
1. Gerino Gerini
2. Giulio Cabianca
3. Giorgio Scarlatti

Car 2 (Lancia D50 chassis 2, Lancia DS50 engine 4)
1. Lucien Bianchi
2. Ken Kavanagh
3. Luigi Piotti
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Rob Walker Racing Plans:

Car 1 (Lotus 10/6 - OSCA TBA)
B. Bira
Maurice Trintignant
Maston Gregory
Jo Bonnier

Car 1 (Lotus 10/7 - OSCA TBA)
Maurice Trintignant
Maston Gregory
Jo Bonnier
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novitopoli wrote:Scuderia Adriatica plans:

Car 1 (Lancia D50 chassis 1, Lancia DS50 engine 3)
1. Gerino Gerini
2. Giulio Cabianca
3. Alfonso de Portago

Car 2 (Lancia D50 chassis 2, Lancia DS50 engine 4)
1. Lucien Bianchi
2. Ken Kavanagh
3. Luigi Piotti



You do know Alfonso De Portago is currently injured right? You won't be able to use him for the first half of the season.
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Gonzalez wrote:
novitopoli wrote:Scuderia Adriatica plans:

Car 1 (Lancia D50 chassis 1, Lancia DS50 engine 3)
1. Gerino Gerini
2. Giulio Cabianca
3. Alfonso de Portago

Car 2 (Lancia D50 chassis 2, Lancia DS50 engine 4)
1. Lucien Bianchi
2. Ken Kavanagh
3. Luigi Piotti



You do know Alfonso De Portago is currently injured right? You won't be able to use him for the first half of the season.


Sorry, I forgot to check it, I altered it accordingly.
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Scuderia Guastalla will be back for a multi-round run, we need a budget
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Volga Testa Russo (Remaining Budget - 90,000)
Base: Kaliningrad, USSR
Chassis: Volga NK1 (Available for 3,000 to Soviet Allies*; for 5,000 to others)
Engine: Volga GZ1 (Available for 3,000 to Soviet Allies*; for 5,000 to others)

Volga Chassis NK1 design (Design cost: 10,000)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.1 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.2 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.3 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.4 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.5 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.6 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.7 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Chassis NK1.8 (Build cost: 2,500)

Volga Engine GZ1 design (Design cost: 10,000)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.1 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.2 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.3 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.4 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.5 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.6 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.7 (Build cost: 2,500)
  • Volga Engine GZ1.8 (Build cost: 2,500)

Drivers:
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Image George Sharanov
Image Zahar Ya Shteyngrud

* To qualify for the discounted rate, the item for sale must either be operated by a team based in a nation allied with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, or be driven by a driver from a nation allied with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Such countries include: Albania, Bulgaria, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Egypt, Hungary, Mongolia, North Korea, North Vietnam, Poland, Romania, Syria.
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Owen Racing Organisation have an offer from OSCA to purchase the F156A we used last season for 22,500. Naturally, we'd like to purchase that chassis, although we'd like to purchase a second. We would offer a combined price of 50,000 for the pair.

We are in the market for a pair of strong engines. Offers will be accepted, but I'm not going to entertain any rubbish proposals.

We intend to put together a two-car operation for the bulk of the season, and hence will offer deals to the following drivers in order of preference.

Jack Fairman
Alan Stacey
Brian Naylor
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Ataxia wrote:Owen Racing Organisation have an offer from OSCA to purchase the F156A we used last season for 22,500. Naturally, we'd like to purchase that chassis, although we'd like to purchase a second. We would offer a combined price of 50,000 for the pair.

Offer accepted. F156A chassis 10 and a newly constructed one will be sent to Owen for 50,000
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As agreed on the chat over a telegram, Vanwall VW56 chassis 4 and Vanwall 254 engine 1 will be sent to Owen Racing Organisation in exchange for £20,000.
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Pleased to confirm the above pair of deals, and I'm still on the hunt for a couple more engines. Timewasters will be shot with Mr Owen's antique blunderbuss.
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La Gazzetta Dello Sport wrote:Bizzarri: Smaller squad, bigger objective for Ferrari

Coming off the back of a poor 1956 campaign, one of Italy's traditional flag bearers in motorsport, Ferrari, is looking to rebuild for a return to winning ways in 1957. Team Manager Simone Bizzarri took time to sit down with GdS writer Gennaro Padovano to discuss past mistakes and future hopes.

Gennaro Padovano: It was clear that Ferrari was already struggling to compete on level terms with Alfa Romeo, but even with them now gone you are still second the in the national order, now behind O.S.C.A. Have you identified the reasons for this?

Simone Bizzarri: We had an overreaction. 1955 was a dark place, and we wanted to show that the team was strong again by fielding a big lineup with respected individuals piloting them. But with the push to manufacture so many cars in a short window, there was perhaps a deficiency in the quality of their designs and implementation.

GP: So is the plan to spend more time designing and less building?

SB: Indeed this is the case. We have been spending much of last year designing another new car, with a philosophy closer to the 555. The 560 was trying new ideas, ones which did not bear success. The plan is to have a smaller squad, with a bigger objective. Three cars appears to be the optimum.

GP: That means drivers in the stable currently would not be returning for next season. Who can we expect to see riding the prancing horses next year, and who is being put out to pasture?

SB: Given our customer programs are coming to a close, this means that Cesare [Perdisa] and Gerino [Gerini] are no longer with us. For Dorino [Serafini], his injury was a terrible way to end the season, we continue to support him, but from the conversations we have had, it appears he may want to retire. As for Mr Fangio, we were happy to honour our agreement to facilitate his return to Formula 1, but we have decided to go our separate ways, and he will race for Maserati in sportscars.

While Ferrari is very much an international team, we still want Italians as part of our lineup. To that end, the intention is to continue our relationship with Umberto [Maglioli] and Giulio [Cabianca], the latter a young driver I rate very much.

GP: Of course, no matter how strong the stallion in your own stable, Gordini have bred a fine specimen with their 1956 car. Even if it is a year old, how can you expect to beat it?

SB: A tough position for sure. The idea is to build a strong but reliable workhorse. One that is capable of keeping pace, but does not possess the same fragility of the French car.

GP: So in your opinion, where does Ferrari classify in the championship in the 1957 season?

SB: Every championship has its own characteristic. With the drivers, it can go to many drivers, because generally you need only the points of three wins for this. If you are reliable and take a podium most races, while others win once in a while, you can win this championship. For the teams, this is harder, the one with the faster car will often win, as only one car out of however many - three, four, five - can take the 9 points.

It's hard to say. If the other teams get larger, as they might given they have their designs working well, it could be more difficult. If Gordini, OSCA and ourselves have three apiece, we can contend for all the championships. But if they expand, if they have four or five, then the minimum expectation is third. Anything less is completely unsatisfactory.
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DemocalypseNow wrote:BRM should be aware they do not own any of the AAC equipment in question. It was sent to them on a loan basis, and you did not trigger the right of redemption in the agreed timeframe, so this equipment should be in our inventory if it currently is not.


Ok, no worries. I have changed my plans in the post above.
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Gordini will enter 3 cars for this season and offer the seats to these drivers in order of prefrence

Jack Brabham
Consalvo Sanesi
Jo Bonnier
Stirling Moss
José Froilán González
Peter Collins
Mike Hawthorn
Robert Manzon
Tony Gaze
Eugenio Castellotti
Maria Teresa de Filippis
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