GPM2 2008 - The Manufacture Era

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 17 Dec 2015, 11:29

Hello all! I return from the wilderness once more to bring back the best manager series out there.

2008 Pre financial crash was the last big year for manufacture teams with Five factory teams and six engine companies. (Ferrari, Renault, BMW, Toyota, Honda and Mercedes Engines).

So it is as good a season as any to begin our next (hopefully!) epic run.

Like the very first series, a long long time ago! drivers will be picked in a draft format. Teams will have different budgets based on manufacture and non-manufacture status and there will be more engines and even teams to chose from than in the actual 08 year, so good times can be had.

As this was the era of extravagance, all teams will have a slightly higher budget than ever before. But it is important that all teams take care of it and don't run out. In many ways the true winner will be the person with the most money by the end of the season!

There are 13 teams, of which 12 are available for human control (the team not picked will be AI.) With teams being put in two categories, Manufacture and Independent. Manufacture teams will have a higher budget but will be locked to the team name and engine (E.g Ferrari have to run Ferrari engines chaps!) whilst Independents (E.G Red Bull, Pro drive) can even change their name for free and run whatever engine they like! But in exchange will have a smaller budget.

I will update this first post for rules. The Second post will be updated for teams, budgets and other information.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 17 Dec 2015, 11:33

The Teams:

Ferrari - 30,000,000 - Klon
Drivers: Jacques Villeneuve, Karun Chandhok, Jarno Trulli

Car Weight: 664 KG
EMS: Level 3
Fuel Tank 40%

McLaren - 25,000,000 - Collieafc
Fellipe Massa - Jenson Button - Sebastien Buemi

Car Weight: 663kg
EMS Level 3
Fuel Tank 40%

Renault - 30,000,000 - Novitopoli
Drivers: Lewis Hamilton, Mark Webber, Romain Grosjean
Car Weight: 654 KG
EMS Level 2
Fuel Tank 40%

BMW Sauber - 30,000,000 - peteroli
Drivers: Fernando Alonso, Christian Klien, Pedro de la Rosa
Car Weight: 647 KG
EMS level 1
Fuel Tank 40%

Red Bull - Renault - 20,000,000 - East Londoner
Drivers: Nico Rosberg, AJ Allmendinger, Giedo van der Garde
Car Weight 657 KG
EMS level 1
Fuel tank 40%

Toyota - 30,000,000 - THE AI
Drivers Kimi Raikkonen, Michael Schumacher, Narain Karthikeyan
658 KG
EMS Level 1

Toro Rosso - Ferrari - 20,000,000 - Normal32
Mika Hakkinen, Anthony Davidson, Adrian Sutil
Weight: 665 KG
EMS Level 4
Fuel Tank 50%

Williams - BMW 20,000,000 - Wizzie
Sebastien Vettel, Heikki Kovalainen, Scott Dixon
Weight 649 KG
EMS Level 3
Fuel Tank 90%

Force India -Ferrari - 20,000,000 - Miguel98
Sebastien Bourdais, Takuma Sato, Nico Hulkenberg
Weight: 665
EMS Level 3
Fuel Tank: 70%

Honda - 30,000,000 - Fmecha

Nick Heidfeld, Sakon Yamamoto, Bruno Senna
Weight 664 KG
EMS Level 5
Fuel Tank: 60%

[b]Super Aguri - Toyota - 20,000,000 - Ataxia
Timo Glock, Kazuki Nakajima, Kamui Kobayashi
Weight 647 KG
EMS Level 5
Fuel Tank 40%

Prodrive - Mercedes - 20,000,000 - Biscione
Robert Kubica, Ralf Schumacher, Jos Verstappen
Weight 669 KG
EMS Level 1
Fuel Tank 80%

Jordan - Chevrolet 20,000,000 - Wallio
Juan Montoya, David Coulthard, Antonio Pizzonia
Weight 675 KG
EMS level 5
Fuel Tank 40%

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 17 Dec 2015, 11:35

Ferrari for me, the way things ought to be.

Post by **Ataxia** » 17 Dec 2015, 11:45

I would like to take Super Aguri, pweeeeease.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 17 Dec 2015, 12:23

BMW Sauber please

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 17 Dec 2015, 13:02

For a change, I am going to pick a front runner and go McLaren - I will pick Mercedes for 2008 as well

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 17 Dec 2015, 13:35

I'll pick Honda

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 17 Dec 2015, 15:48

I'll take Jordan please.

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 17 Dec 2015, 16:14

I'll take Renault.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 17 Dec 2015, 18:45

Prodrive for me.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 17 Dec 2015, 19:53

Toro Rosso to me.

Post by **Londoner** » 17 Dec 2015, 19:54

Let's see if I can make Red Bull a more successful entity than my escapades with BAR in the earlier games.

Post by **Miguel98** » 17 Dec 2015, 20:36

Force India for me!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 17 Dec 2015, 20:41

I'll take Williams

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 17 Dec 2015, 23:53

That means Entry is now Full. Will post further details in the morning.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 18 Dec 2015, 12:07

Okay, the very first thing that needs to be decided on is engines.

1) All teams can run their real life 2008 engine for no cost. So for example Toro Rosso can run Ferrari engines without seeking permission. In this case Prodrive have customer Mercedes engines as default, Jordan have Ford Cosworth!

2) To run a Ferrari, Renault, BMW, Honda or Mercedes engine, you must get permission from the manufacture team boss. (In Mercedes case you must ask Collieafc the McLaren boss.)

- The next step after engines will be the driver draft, I suggest manufactures offer engines in exchange for driver picks.

With the rules set here are the list of engines and their stats. Power, Weight and Reliability (out of 5)

The last three engines can be rebadged to any name you wish. In terms of power spread, this is much smaller than in other seasons and although difficult for the weaker engines, I believe any engine could lead to a win.

Weight could be a very important stat depending on how heavy the base car is, but unfortunatly this can't be revealed until the game is loaded, so you are rolling the dice.

I have listed the customer specs of each engine, in general works engines are 0.5 stars more reliable but are identical in all other ways.

Post by **Miguel98** » 18 Dec 2015, 12:15

Force India are running Ferrari engines as in real life.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 18 Dec 2015, 12:21

I will stick with the default Merc engines.

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Dec 2015, 12:25

Super Aguri would like to run with Toyotas, if possible.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 18 Dec 2015, 12:32

Ataxia wrote:Super Aguri would like to run with Toyotas, if possible.

Well with no one controlling Toyota, there is nothing stopping that. Done.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 18 Dec 2015, 15:26

How much do the three "other" engines cost?

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 18 Dec 2015, 16:07

Wallio wrote:How much do the three "other" engines cost?

No cost at this stage, manually adjusting budgets via chating is clunky in this game (can only be done in chunks of 5 million at a time!)

The best engines are covered by the manufacture teams but the rest are a free choice. There will be an operating cost ingame, I'll have a look.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 18 Dec 2015, 18:13

Shadaza wrote:
Wallio wrote:How much do the three "other" engines cost?

No cost at this stage, manually adjusting budgets via chating is clunky in this game (can only be done in chunks of 5 million at a time!)

The best engines are covered by the manufacture teams but the rest are a free choice. There will be an operating cost ingame, I'll have a look.

Then Jordan say the heck with it and chose the Chevys for POWAH!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 18 Dec 2015, 23:36

After two years of being in exile, Williams have seen it in their hearts to forgive BMW, and will sign with them for 2008.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 19 Dec 2015, 13:46

Wizzie wrote:After two years of being in exile, Williams have seen it in their hearts to forgive BMW, and will sign with them for 2008.

You will need BMW's permission to do this (peteroli) and may get it fine, they may say no, they may make demands (just non financial).

Post by **Londoner** » 19 Dec 2015, 17:41

Red Bull has decided to honour their existing contract with Renault.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 19 Dec 2015, 20:32

STR will honor their contract with Ferrari.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 19 Dec 2015, 21:30

Shadaza wrote:
Wizzie wrote:After two years of being in exile, Williams have seen it in their hearts to forgive BMW, and will sign with them for 2008.

You will need BMW's permission to do this (peteroli) and may get it fine, they may say no, they may make demands (just non financial).

BMW will happily supply Williams we have no demands

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 21 Dec 2015, 18:19

All teams have engines. I will very soon reveal the draft order for all teams. But before that can start I will list all the drivers in the game and their cost. (But no other stats.)

All drivers will have their exp raised to 3 stars to prevent the rookie bug, but will have some other stats lowered to compensate.

Some drivers will have their stats modified from the base game to fit a more realistic performance.

If you wish to have a driver not listed on your team, make a request and I will price him/her up if I believe the driver is realistic.

The drivers in order of price (For the entire season) are:

Fernando Alonso 15 Million - BMW
Kimi Raikkonen 15 Million
Michael Schumacher 15 Million
Lewis Hamilton 10 Million - Renault
Juan Pablo Montoya 9 Million - Jordan
Jenson Button 8 Million - McLaren
Felipe Massa 7 Million - McLaren
Jarno Trulli 6 Million - Ferrari
Nick Heidfeld 5 Million - Honda
Nico Rosberg 5 Million - Red Bull
Robert Kubica 4 Million - Prodrive
Mark Webber 4 Million - Renault
Rubens Barrichello 4 Million
Mika Hakkinen 4 Million - Toro Rosso
Giancarlo Fisichella 3.5 Million
Ralf Schumacher 3 Million - Prodrive
Jacques Villeneuve 3 Million - Ferrari
Heikki Kovalainen 3 Million - Williams
David Coulthard 2.5 Million - Jordan
Sebastian Vettel 2 Million - Williams
Nelson Piquet 2 Million
Sebastien Bourdais 2 Million - Force India
Timo Glock 2 Million - Super Aguri
Adrian Sutil 1.5 Million - Toro Rosso
Vitantonio Liuzzi 1.5 Million
Pedro de la Rosa 1.5 Million - BMW
Giorgio Pantano 1.5 Million
Valentino Rossi 1.5 Million
Luca Badoer 1 Million
Alex Wurz 1 Million
Christian Klien 1 Million - BMW
Marc Gene 1 Million
Dario Franchitti 1 Million
Bruno Junqueira 1 Million
Scott Speed 1 Million
Luca Fillippi 0.9 Million
Neel Jani 0.9 Million
Justin Wilson 0.8 Million
Antonio Pizzonia 0.75 Million
Marko Asmer 0.75 Million
Paul di Resta 0.75 Million
Anthony Davidson 0.75 Million - Toro Rosso
Robert Doornbos 0.75 Million
Romain Grosjean 0.7 Million
Scott Dixon 0.7 Million - Williams
Sebastien Buemi 0.6 Million
Markus Winkelhock 0.6 Million
Lucas di Grassi 0.5 Million
Graham Rahal 0.5 Million
Nico Hulkeberg 0.5 Million
Giedo van der Garde 0.5 Million
Jos Verstappen 0.5 Million
Adrian Valles 0.5 Million
Ryan Briscoe 0.5 Million
Tiago Monteiro 0.5 Million
Danica Patrick 0.5 Million
Bruno Senna 0.4 Million
Gary Paffet 0.4 Million
Sam Hornish Jnr 0.4 Million
Roldan Rodriquez 0.4 Million
Kamui Kobayashi 0.4 Million - Super Aguri
Michael Ammermuller 0.4 Million
Jerome d'Ambrosio 0.4 Million
Robbie Kerr 0.3 Million
Javier Villa 0.25 Million
Mike Conway 0.25 Million
Alexandre Premat 0.25 Million
James Rossiter 0.2 Million
Tarso Marques 0.2 Million
Brendon Hartley 0.2 Million
James Rossiter 0.2 Million
Alvaro Parente 0.1 Million
Karun Chandhok 0.1 Million Ferrari, yes I'm serious

Pastor Maldonado -0.3 Million
Sakon Yamamoto -0,75 Million - Honda
Christian Albers -0.75 Million
Kazuki Nakajima -1.5 Million - Super Aguri
Takuma Sato -2 Million - Force India
Narain Karthikeyan -4 Million

Bonus:

Aj Allmendinger 1.1 Million - Red Bull

The last drivers are pay drivers, they will pay you to race, but not to be 3rd driver.

I will decide pick order with RNG in the chat. Watch this space.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 21 Dec 2015, 18:38

After the live draw the pick order for drivers is thus:

BMW
Super Aguri
Honda
Prodrive
Renault
Ferrari
Force India
McLaren
Williams
Toro Rosso
Red Bull
Jordan

and the list is reversed for second drivers, so Jordan will be able to pick two drivers at once and it will go back to Red Bull all the way up to BMW. After that, 3rd drivers will be taken on a first come first serve basis (which technically means BMW can pick a 3rd driver right away!)

It is BMW that get first choice on the relaunched series, I wonder who they will pick to lead their team, they can have anybody! After that it's a trio of the smaller teams who will be hoping for inspired choices with pre season favourites Renault. Ferrari and McLaren all in the middle pack. The Red Bull stable is near the back and will be hoping to be able to back a strong pair of drivers if they can't get a massive leader figure.

Driver draft is now LIVE. If you wish to add a driver to the list, you better ask me quick.

This process might take some time, until after Christmas perhaps, but there is no rush.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Dec 2015, 21:42

Williams would like to know why they're missing from the draft list entirely

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 21 Dec 2015, 21:49

Fernando Alonso after one stained season with Mclaren will jump ship to Hinwil to lead BMW Sauber into 2008

Post by **Ataxia** » 21 Dec 2015, 22:31

Autosport wrote:Super Aguri announce partnership with Toyota

After two seasons of Honda support, Super Aguri have entered into a technical partnership with automotive giant Toyota for the 2008 season.

Honda decided to withdraw their support of Super Aguri after the board was persuaded to by team principal Nick Fry; a poor 2007 caused Honda to make large operating losses and Fry argued - successfully - that focusing on one team would be beneficial to their long-term targets.

As part of the new deal, Super Aguri will run Kazuki Nakajima as one of their drivers; Nakajima made his debut for Williams last year in Brazil, and Toyota will continue to support the Japanese driver's efforts into the new year.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 21 Dec 2015, 23:55

Wizzie wrote:Williams would like to know why they're missing from the draft list entirely

You were on the draft list, I just didn't copy you over, I even mentioned in the chat when I drew Williams. My fault.

Checking the logs, you were just before Toro Rosso. So I'll stealth edit you in.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Dec 2015, 01:20

Shadaza wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Williams would like to know why they're missing from the draft list entirely

You were on the draft list, I just didn't copy you over, I even mentioned in the chat when I drew Williams. My fault.

Checking the logs, you were just before Toro Rosso. So I'll stealth edit you in.

All good. Sir Frank would like to claim $5 million in damages for the emotional trauma he went through this morning, by the way

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 22 Dec 2015, 04:03

Honda picks the slightly boring Nick Heidfeld

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 22 Dec 2015, 15:57

Whelp, theres always next year

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Dec 2015, 19:50

Autosport wrote:Kubica defects to McLaren-backed Prodrive

In a surprise move, 2007 season BMW Sauber driver Robert Kubica has followed Nick Heidfeld out of the Hinwil exit door, moving to the new McLaren B-Team run by Prodrive.

It would appear that Kubica is angling for a McLaren ride in the near future, having seen his former paymasters elect to splash out on nabbing Fernando Alonso from the British squad - a driver well known for demanding number one status.

Kubica, despite his young years, is expected to step-up as the team leader at Prodrive, with the second seat linked to a string of rookies from junior formulae.

novitopoli · Post by **novitopoli** » 22 Dec 2015, 21:03

Autosport wrote:F1 world in shock as Hamilton moves to Renault

British driver Lewis Hamilton, who impressed during his rookie season with McLaren, is set to join Renault for the 2008 season in a surprise move, Autosport understands.

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Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Dec 2015, 21:20

Ferrari have decided to be led into this new era by a true world champion: they hire Jacques Villeneuve.