Reject of the Race - Russia 2015

Post by **Miguel98** » 11 Oct 2015, 12:54

Nominations please!

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 11 Oct 2015, 12:55

Kimi!!!

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 11 Oct 2015, 12:56

1. Raikkonen
2. EJ

GerhardTalger · Post by **GerhardTalger** » 11 Oct 2015, 12:57

Raikkonen is the natural choice. But Verstappen was also showing a poor form. Sainz was also doing some strange things after his brake failure...

In regards of that, my ROTR is connected to what Sainz did. That marshall, who was almost hit by Vettel after picking up a piece of debris... what an idiot. He is definitely my ROTR.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 11 Oct 2015, 12:58

Kimi Raikkonen - stupid, stupid crash.
Daniel Ricciardo's car - stop breaking down already.

Nico Hulkenberg - That was very uncharacteristic.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:02

Kimi-Matias Räikkönen - He was exciting to watch wheel-to-wheel, but it really looked like he was an accident waiting to happen.

Nico Hulkenberg - Excellent qualifying, only to lose it at the first corner (second corner, whatever)

Meatwad · Post by **Meatwad** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:06

Kimi for bathplugging not only his but also Bottas' race up.

Dishonorable mention to Hülkenberg for throwing away what would have been his best chance for a podium since 2012 (even though we didn't know it at that point).

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:15

My ROTR is the Marshal that almost got hit by Vettel. What an idiot. Risked his own life as well as the drivers.

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:16

Raikkonen would be up there for the move but I heard something along the lines of All or nothing so whatever.

Hulkenberg for me. All that hype isn't justified especially when you knock poor Ericsson out of the race.

HM - Sainz for the crossing of the white line.

went · Post by **went** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:16

Kimi: What the hell. Throwing away a podium chance for an insane overtake where there was no physical room. Idiotic.

Car no. 6: It's like it has all the problems ever. Curse of Webber?

Brave Russian Marshal: Death wish, anyone?

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:18

Kimi Raikkonen - This is why people are saying he's lost his touch, although I'll excuse him, he helped Perez back on the podium!

Romain Grosjean - Stupid crash harking back to his earlier days at Lotus, although like Raikkonen it's an exception since Perez would not have made the podium otherwise. Still, this proves why he will never be a World Champion.

Max Verstappen - Poor pace and tyre management.

Nico Hulkenberg - Somehow he always does well EXCEPT for when Force India are in serious contention, that's why it's Perez who gets the goods and Hulk is not at Ferrari or another 'top team' right now.

Nico Rosberg's car - Seriously? I know the title fight may have been over before even the start of 2015 but this is not how it was meant to end.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:31

Kimi Räikkönen. Shows some real racecraft for 52 laps, then proceeds to destroy both his and Bottas' race. :facepalm:

Fetzie · Post by **Fetzie** » 11 Oct 2015, 13:54

Kimi Raikönnen.

Dishonourable mention to the music playing in the pit-lane.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 11 Oct 2015, 14:23

This tends to be the nature of Formula 1. You wait all year for a race with strong ROTR contenders, and then three turn up at once.

Räikkönen's incident which made him eligible for the award may have been the most spectacular, but was it the most bone-headed? Hülkenberg's mistake may have been a simple one, but it's a pretty jarring for his career prospects that every time he is in a position to challenge for his podium, he throws his chance away. Interlagos 2012 is another that comes to mind. Top of the list for stupidity is possible the Anonymous Russian Marshal who wandered into the middle of the racetrack with only waved yellows, right in front of the oncoming Vettel. The race could have taken a tragic turn.

This requires some more thought. Each incident can stake its claim, but all for completely different reasons. The self-inflicted error, the merciless mistake or the dangerously incompetent? I guess it almost comes down to a philosophical debate of what ROTR should represent.

Press_Play2002 · Post by **Press_Play2002** » 11 Oct 2015, 14:27

Kimi Raikkonen - For allowing his 2002 antics get the better of him.

Bernard Ecclestone - http://itmakessenseblog.com/files/2012/ ... seless.jpg As per usual.

The "new-and-improved" image system on this forum - I am unable to draft new images from my computer at all. The default images are simply less flexible (not to mention quite bland) for constant cycling on a monthly basis. So yeah, thanks guys. :facepalm:

Post by **Miguel98** » 11 Oct 2015, 14:43

Kimi Raikkonen - Kimi, that was way too amateurish. When the team says to give it all, they don't mean crash into him.
Max Verstappen - After the spin at the start, some could say we expected Max to deliver a Singapore-like performance. What went on was just a very dull race by him, without even any screen time. Scored a point because of penalties. More underserved than Massa's 4th place.
Marshall - Tom Pryce shading. :/
Nico Hulkenberg - It's always Perez that delivers big, while Nico was playing a Dead or Alive cover.
Honda - The images of Pastor closing a 500m gap with DRS shall not be forgotten. And Alonso made more interesting comments.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 11 Oct 2015, 14:45

1)Nico Hulkenberg: In a weekend where Checo Perez got into de podium, a lazy spin that put his race, as well as Mad Max's and Ericsson's off, deserves RotR, clearly.

2)Crazy Russian Marshalls: With all the increased safety around, seeing a marshall crossing the track just in front of Seb Vettel is insanity at the higher level

Dishonorable Mentions to Kimi Raikkonen (went for all and gain nothing against Bottas), Felipe Massa (undeserved 4th in a weekend were he had no pace at all) and Honda (the massive lack of top speed on that engine is sad)

tc3j3r · Post by **tc3j3r** » 11 Oct 2015, 15:23

Kimi Raikkonen - idiot move cost his team any mathematical chance of the constructors Championship.

Dishonourable mention to Rosberg's throttle for depriving us of a battle for the win.

Zergon · Post by **Zergon** » 11 Oct 2015, 16:36

Quite many good choices this time around but I give it to Nico Hulkenberg: as while Räikkönen at least had little help from Bottas closing the door, Hulkenberg messed up all on his own and in a race were your teammate is on podium, getting taken out on the first corner thanks to your own mistake is quite sure way to get into ROTR discussion.

(Dis)honorable mentions:
Kimi Räikkönen: While I do think that Bottas didn´t really left room for Kimi, that was still quite a dive and had little chance to success.
Max Verstappen: Despite scoring a point thanks to Alonso´s post race penalty, that wasn´t really a good performance. Now, to be fair, his race did get a poor start thanks to Hulkenberg spinning in the first corner but I just can´t figure out how Max managed to get stuck about two seconds behind Alonso with tyres that were fresher... thus becoming the only guy (exluding Marussia) that didn´t manage to pass the sitting ducks.... sorry McLarens.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 11 Oct 2015, 17:52

The spillage of diesel at turn 8 in FP1 is a very dishonorable mention but I think the marshal running onto the track deserves it.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 11 Oct 2015, 19:22

1. Raikkonen: Very desperate move there.

2. Hulkenburg: You were looking so good in practice, and qualifying, and you screw it up on the first lap!

Dishonorable Mentions:

Verstappen: Really poor race for him.

Russian Marshall: First the guy at Singapore, now this!

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 11 Oct 2015, 19:47

Been a while since Ive posted in a ROTR thread but it's clear cut for me

Kimi Raikkonen: What on earth was he thinking? That move was never going to work in a month of Sunday's. He looked like a accident waiting to happen anyway considering he touched Bottas after the stops and twice ran off at turn 5. Still I won't nominate him for the award because I'd have done exactly the same if a podium was in front of me

I'm giving it to Nico Hulkenberg for losing it all on his own in a race where Perez bagged a podium. Further evidence of what has been spoke about these 2 team-mates before.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 11 Oct 2015, 20:33

Hulkenburg - a silly mistake on the second corner of a race a race where he could have scored a strong result and don't understand why people say that he deserves a top seat

Enforcer · Post by **Enforcer** » 11 Oct 2015, 21:40

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote: Kimi Raikkonen: What on earth was he thinking? That move was never going to work in a month of Sunday's. He looked like a accident waiting to happen anyway considering he touched Bottas after the stops and twice ran off at turn 5. Still I won't nominate him for the award because I'd have done exactly the same if a podium was in front of me

Idk, a bonehead move is a bonehead move whether it's for a podium on the last lap or for 19th place on the fifth lap. As you say yourself, it was never going to work in a month of Sundays. If it actually possible to overtake, then yeah, it's okay to try an aggressive late move.

But it wasn't really possible there, he was too far back and just ended up divebombing Bottas with zero chance of actually making the pass. Look at the angle his car's at as he's arriving at the apex, I think even if Bottas had seen it and jumped out of the way, Kimi would have overshot the corner and been repassed on exit.

Therefore, my nomination is unsurprisingly enough: Kimi Raikkonen.

RAK · Post by **RAK** » 11 Oct 2015, 22:44

Kimi Raikkonen: Way to cock up any chance of the Constructors' Championship, as well as giving up a good fourth-place finish.

Nico Rosberg's car: Not the way I'd have liked to see him pretty much eliminated from the Drivers' Championship fight.

That Russian marshal: Potentially very hazardous - very lucky to escape from any consequences.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 11 Oct 2015, 23:14

My award goes to Kimi Raikkonen. A desperate move that was never going to work. He looked very quick towards the end, considering how quickly he closed the gap to the Perez-Bottas battle after Ricky retired, but still, desperate.

HM: Nico Hulkenberg - Goes too hot into first corner, spins in second corner, destroy's two drivers races.

Felipe Massa - Never have I witnessed a 4th place go to a more undeserving driver. He took half the race to pass a Sauber for god's sake...

Russian Marshall: I did wonder how Sainz' rear wing end plate suddenly disappeared from the track. And then we found out. A mad Russian. Gulag for you...

Vladimir Putin: Because I can...

Carlos Sainz: I haz brake failurez. I spinz car. I keep drivingz car. I spinz again. I drop car bitz everywhere. Now I stop.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 12 Oct 2015, 04:18

Raikkonen, with Hulkenberg a dishonourable mention

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 12 Oct 2015, 05:48

Raikkonen - Has to be.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 12 Oct 2015, 05:50

Hulkenberg deserves more the ROTR. Amateurish that almost resulted in a pile up. Destroyed Ericsson's race and damaged Verstappen's and Grosjean's cars, forcing both to pit for repairs. Raikkonen crash was silly, but an amateurish spin in first lap for the "best of the rest" and the Le Mans winner is more silly and more ROTR material than a very ambitious overtaking attempt in the last lap, especially when his team mate scores a podium with a middlefield car. Still, Raikkonen deserves a big mention.

Special mention for Grosjean and his crash due overdriving, Williams pitcrews and the marshall who was almost hit by Vettel.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 12 Oct 2015, 06:36

I don't see what Grosjean did that was so wrong - he was following Button, and was caught out by the turbulence. The position he was in, it was impossible for him to save it the moment the car wiggled.

yannicksamlad · Post by **yannicksamlad** » 12 Oct 2015, 12:00

1. Hulkenberg.....so disappointing
2. Race director for throwing SC so early the pack hadn't sorted itself out and some eased up , and nearly a crash (from deploying the SAFETY car) . I saw the Formula Renault Silverstone smash when the leaders slowed and the pack were racing each other and suddenly faced with slow cars ahead. If the incident is on lap 1 everyone knows you can complete the rest of lap 1 on a clear track, so take a moment to deploy the safety car, and let them settle down. We have had so many accidents in other formulae (Yokoyama, Viso etc, but so many little nerfs and nudges as well) with cars slowing for yellows and someone piling into the back ..sometimes there's no other choice but to put out the flags and SC, but on lap 1 with the incident behind everyone, there is no such rush. Is there?

Post by **Nuppiz** » 12 Oct 2015, 14:24

While I agree with the general sentiment of nominating Räikkönen for ROTR, I don't agree with people putting extra blame on him for "ruining" Ferrari's chances at the WCC. Let's face it, even if the crash didn't happen Mercedes would've clinched the title in Austin anyway as there's no chance in hell they'd suddenly stop scoring points for the rest of the season..

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 12 Oct 2015, 16:01

Raikkonen - he's been in that "lost his touch but once in a blue moon pulls a good performance out of the bag" zone for like 3 years now, it's honestly hard to believe he'll be in the Ferrari again next year.

And an honourable mention to Rosberg's reliability. The slightest possibility of an interesting final act to the season has been snubbed by reliability.

LeytonHouse · Post by **LeytonHouse** » 13 Oct 2015, 11:48

Raikkonen - Once again outpaced by Vettel, despite earning himself track position at the start. The last lap divebomb on Bottas ruined both their races and was 100% Kimi’s fault. I wish he’d retire at the end of the season and give some new blood an opportunity to drive a very good car.

Hulkenberg - He is one of my favourite drivers so it pains me to say this but that lazy spin at turn 2 was pretty ameteurish. I really hope the guy gets a crack at a bigger team but with Perez doing so well in the other car I fear his chances are diminishing.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Oct 2015, 13:40

After some further thought, I've elected to hand ROTR to the Crazy Russian Marshal who ran into the middle of the track as Vettel was approaching. Marshals do a dangerous job and have to be brave, but that was a step too far. My heart skipped a beat when watching him running to the middle of the track to pick up Sainz's rear wing endplate.

Or perhaps there's something about Sebastian Vettel that simply attracts track invaders?

Spectoremg · Post by **Spectoremg** » 13 Oct 2015, 19:22

1. The Russian Grand Prix.
I watched the last two thirds on x4 speed and pressed play if I thought something good was going to happen. I turned it into highlights coverage all on my own.

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 14 Oct 2015, 06:52

Biscione wrote:After some further thought, I've elected to hand ROTR to the Crazy Russian Marshal who ran into the middle of the track as Vettel was approaching. Marshals do a dangerous job and have to be brave, but that was a step too far. My heart skipped a beat when watching him running to the middle of the track to pick up Sainz's rear wing endplate.

Or perhaps there's something about Sebastian Vettel that simply attracts track invaders?

I mean come on. Who wouldn't be attracted to that smile.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 14 Oct 2015, 08:43

Biscione wrote:Or perhaps there's something about Sebastian Vettel that simply attracts track invaders?

Maybe they're all a bunch of bitter Webber fans?

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 14 Oct 2015, 11:52

LeytonHouse wrote:Raikkonen - Once again outpaced by Vettel, despite earning himself track position at the start. The last lap divebomb on Bottas ruined both their races and was 100% Kimi’s fault. I wish he’d retire at the end of the season and give some new blood an opportunity to drive a very good car.

Hulkenberg - He is one of my favourite drivers so it pains me to say this but that lazy spin at turn 2 was pretty ameteurish. I really hope the guy gets a crack at a bigger team but with Perez doing so well in the other car I fear his chances are diminishing.

Yup