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I had an idea months ago to exclude certain drivers based on having some letter in their name, but I couldn’t find anything that was both funny and didn’t exclude too many people. The Scrabble Tile Championship made me look into it again, and I came up with this.

Any driver with both A and E in their name never existed. Shared drives with one eligible driver are fully credited to that driver. The "best x races" rule won't be applied, there's no fastest lap point, and F2 drivers will get the points they deserve.

1950
Luigi Fagioli (40)
Louis Rosier (30)
Louis Chiron (10)
Bill Holland (8)
George Connor (6)
Cuth Harrison (4)
Paul Russo (4)
Felice Bonetto (4)
Luigi Villoresi (4)
Joe Fry (3)
Myron Fohr (3)
Pierre Levegh (3)
Jack McGrath (2)
Toni Branca (2)
Geoffrey Crossley (2)

FAGIOLIWINSLOL, though Rosier's consistency meant he was only completely safe after the penultimate race.

1951
Luigi Villoresi (36)
Louis Rosier (22)
Felice Bonetto (14)
Louis Chiron (12)
Rudi Fischer (9)
Luigi Fagioli (8)
Pierre Levegh (7)
Stirling Moss (6)
Bobby Ball (6)
Jack McGrath (4)
Manny Ayulo (4)
Gene Force (4)
Sam Hanks (3)
Duncan Hamilton (3)
Franco Rol (3)
Bill Schindler (2)

It was all to play for going into the second half of the season, then Villoresi won two races and pulled a 12-point gap on Rosier.

1952
Rudi Fischer (21)
Luigi Villoresi (16)
Alan Brown (14)
Dennis Poore (10)
Troy Ruttman (8)
Peter Collins (8)
Chico Landi (8)
Peter Hirt (7)
Jim Rathmann (6)
Robert O'Brien (6)
Eric Thompson (6)
Fritz Reiss (6)
Duncan Hamilton (6)
Felice Bonetto (6)
Sam Hanks (4)
Franco Comotti (4)
Roy Salvadori (4)
Toni Ulmen (4)
Art Cross (3)
Ken Downing (3)
Ernst Klodwig (3)
Louis Rosier (3)
Jimmy Bryan (2)

With three races left, Alan Brown on 14, Rudi Fischer on 13, and Peter Collins on 8 were the main contenders. Fischer then won with neither of the rivals scoring. No one important showed up for Zandvoort, but both Fischer and Brown came to Monza. Still, unless Brown won and Fischer didn't score, the title was Fischer's. Brown didn't win.

1953
Luigi Villoresi (42)
Felice Bonetto (32)
Louis Rosier (27)
Stirling Moss (9)
Bill Vukovich (8)
Peter Collins (8)
Alan Brown (6)
Art Cross (6)
Roberto Mieres (6)
Louis Chiron (5)
Sam Hanks (4)
Luigi Musso (4)
Jack McGrath (3)
Jimmy Daywalt (2)
Rodney Nuckey (2)

Villoresi and Rosier were tied with three races to go, Bonetto a win behind. Bonetto won with the others having lacklustre races, and Rosier was 1 point behind with Bonetto 4. Bonetto won again, but Villoresi came second. Villoresi then won extremely comfortably at Monza.

1954
Karl Kling (26)
Roberto Mieres (22)
Louis Rosier (14)
Stirling Moss (12)
Bill Vukovich (8)
Peter Collins (8)
Luigi Musso (8)
Jimmy Bryan (6)
Luigi Villoresi (6)
Jack McGrath (4)
Leslie Thorne (4)
Troy Ruttman (3)
Paco Godia (3)
Paul Russo (1)
Jerry Hoyt (1)

Originally the story of this championship was a bit different because I missed Umberto Maglioli. I had the post up for about a minute then deleted it. Anyway, it’s still all different winners for the first half of the season, then Kling still beats season-long underdog Mieres to the title with a safe drive in Spain.
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1955
Stirling Moss (32)
Roberto Mieres (24)
Luigi Musso (18)
Karl Kling (10)
Luigi Villoresi (8)
Bob Sweikert (8)
Louis Chiron (6)
Paul Russo (6)
Louis Rosier (6)
John Fitch (6)
Johnny Thomson (4)
Bill Homeier (3)
Pat O'Connor (2)

Stirling Moss won easily, but unlike previous seasons, there was no other consistent finisher to prolong the title race.

1956
Peter Collins (36)
Stirling Moss (36)
Paco Godia (15)
Louis Rosier (11)
Luigi Musso (8)
Sam Hanks (8)
Luigi Villoresi (8)
Jack Fairman (8)
Dick Rathmann (6)
Olivier Gendebien (4)
Bob Sweikert (4)
Ron Flockhart (4)
Chico Landi (3)
Gerino Gerini (3)
Bob Veith (3)
Jimmy Reece (2)

After 5 rounds of 8, Collins was on 22 and Moss 20. At Silverstone, Collins won with Moss failing to score. The opposite happened at the Nürburgring. Moss won the final race with Collins second, and with three wins and two seconds each, the championship was a tie.

1957
Stirling Moss (28)
Peter Collins (22)
Luigi Musso (22)
Tony Brooks (18)
Jack Brabham (14)
Giorgio Scarlatti (12)
Wolfgang von Trips (10)
Sam Hanks (8)
Jo Bonnier (6)
Jim Rathmann (6)
Jim Rathmann (4)
Luigi Piotti (3)
Paul Russo (3)
Roy Salvadori (3)
Johnny Boyd (2)
Ivor Bueb (2)

Five drivers had 6 to 10 points at the halfway mark, not counting Indy drivers. After two more races, Collins and Musso had a gap on the rest with 22 and 20. Then Collins didn't show, Musso didn't score, and Moss won, putting him equal with Musso for the final race. At Monza, Moss won with Musso in a lowly position and Collins retiring, and so he took the championship from almost nowhere.

1958
Stirling Moss (40)
Roy Salvadori (31)
Tony Brooks (27)
Peter Collins (18)
Luigi Musso (17)
Jack Brabham (17)
Wolfgang von Trips (16)
Phil Hill (16)
Cliff Allison (15)
Jimmy Bryan (8)
Johnny Boyd (6)
Jo Bonnier (6)
Paco Godia (4)
Jim Rathmann (4)
Olivier Gendebien (4)
Jimmy Reece (3)
Tony Marsh (3)
Graham Hill (3)
Jud Larson (2)
Jack Fairman (2)

Musso and Moss looked like the main contenders after Zandvoort with 17 and 16, Allison next on 7. Musso's death at Reims seemed to give the championship to Moss, then his engine failed at Silverstone and Collins won, putting him six points behind and creating a new title race. Moss' car failed again in Germany and Collins died, and now Salvadori and Brooks were three and five points behind. Moss won at Porto and neither of the others did well at all, Salvadori the closest to Moss eight points behind. Then Brooks put himself back in with a win at Monza, Moss' car failing again. Moss 32, Salvadori 28, and Brooks 27 were the standings coming into the decider at Ain-Diab. Then Moss just beat Salvadori by two laps, Brooks not finishing.

1959
Jack Brabham (36)
Tony Brooks (33)
Phil Hill (26)
Stirling Moss (22)
Roy Salvadori (13)
Jo Bonnier (12)
Jim Rathmann (8)
Johnny Thomson (6)
Graham Hill (6)
Ron Flockhart (6)
Cliff Allison (5)
Olivier Gendebien (5)
Paul Goldsmith (4)
Wolfgang von Trips (4)
Johnny Boyd (3)
Harry Blanchard (3)
Eddie Johnson (2)
Chris Bristow (2)

Brabham 26, Brooks 22, Hill 20 with three races to go. Only Brooks scored at Porto, bringing him one point behind Brabham. After Monza, it was Brabham 30, Hill 26, Brooks 25. It looked like Brabham was going to win the last race anyway, then he ran out of fuel with one straight and a bit to go. Brooks passed him to take the win, but as we all know, he pushed his car to the finish for second place and the championship.
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1960
Jack Brabham (46)
Stirling Moss (26)
Phil Hill (26)
Wolfgang von Trips (19)
Olivier Gendebien (14)
Jim Clark (13)
Tony Brooks (11)
Richie Ginther (10)
Jo Bonnier (10)
Cliff Allison (8)
Jim Rathmann (8)
Graham Hill (7)
John Surtees (6)
Paul Goldsmith (6)
Giulio Cabianca (4)
Don Branson (4)
Ron Flockhart (3)
Johnny Thomson (3)
Piero Drogo (2)
Jim Hall (2)
Eddie Johnson (2)
Roberto Bonomi (1)
Roy Salvadori (1)
Lloyd Ruby (1)

This was never going to be very interesting.

1961
Phil Hill (40)
Wolfgang von Trips (33)
Stirling Moss (21)
Jim Clark (19)
Richie Ginther (18)
Tony Brooks (15)
Graham Hill (12)
Jo Bonnier (11)
Roy Salvadori (7)
John Surtees (5)
Jack Brabham (4)
Olivier Gendebien (3)
Cliff Allison (2)
Roger Penske (2)
Roy Salvadori (1)
Hap Sharp (1)

Like real life, we have a battle between Hill and von Trips decided by von Trips' death.

1962
Graham Hill (58)
Jim Clark (33)
Tony Maggs (28)
John Surtees (25)
Phil Hill (21)
Richie Ginther (16)
Jack Brabham (15)
Jo Bonnier (14)
Neville Lederle (3)
Roger Penske (2)
Jo Siffert (1)
Tony Settember (1)
Rob Schroeder (1)
John Love (1)

Tony Maggs FTW

1963
Jim Clark (74)
Richie Ginther (39)
Graham Hill (31)
John Surtees (25)
Tony Maggs (18)
Jack Brabham (17)
Jo Bonnier (15)
Jim Hall (7)
Jo Siffert (4)
Ludovico Scarfiotti (3)
Jo Bonnier (2)
Tony Settember (2)
Chris Amon (2)
Peter Broeker (2)
John Love (2)
Hap Sharp (1)
Doug Serrurier (1)

Duh.

1964
Graham Hill (46)
John Surtees (43)
Richie Ginther (37)
Jim Clark (36)
Jack Brabham (18)
Mike Spence (12)
Jo Siffert (13)
Tony Maggs (9)
Jo Bonnier (9)
Phil Hill (9)
Chris Amon (5)
Pedro Rodríguez (3)
Ludovico Scarfiotti (2)

Hill 31, Clark 31 after five races. Then both their seasons broke down, and with two to go, it was Hill 37, Ginther 32, Clark 31. Then Hill won.
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1965
Jim Clark (56)
Graham Hill (56)
John Surtees (24)
Richie Ginther (17)
Mike Spence (17)
Jack Brabham (16)
Jo Siffert (14)
Jo Bonnier (12)
Denny Hulme (10)
Jochen Rindt (10)
Richard Attwood (6)
Pedro Rodríguez (6)
Ronnie Bucknum (3)
Paul Hawkins (1)

Clark obviously has more wins, so no co-champions this time.

1966
Jack Brabham (46)
John Surtees (28)
Jochen Rindt (26)
Graham Hill (22)
Denny Hulme (22)
Jim Clark (16)
Ludovico Scarfiotti (9)
Bob Bondurant (8)
Mike Spence (6)
Richie Ginther (6)
John Taylor (4)
Jo Bonnier (4)
Jo Siffert (3)
Chris Amon (2)
Jo Schlesser (2)
Chris Irwin (1)
Geki (1)
Ronnie Bucknum (1)

Nothing too surprising. Meh.

1967
Denny Hulme (51)
Jack Brabham (49)
Jim Clark (43)
Chris Amon (26)
John Surtees (20)
Pedro Rodríguez (18)
Graham Hill (16)
Mike Spence (13)
Jochen Rindt (9)
Jo Siffert (9)
John Love (6)
Chris Irwin (4)
Jo Bonnier (4)
Ludovico Scarfiotti (2)
Guy Ligier (1)
Jacky Ickx (1)

After the Nürburgring, Hulme led Brabham by 11. After Mosport, 8. After Monza, 2. In the penultimate race at Watkins Glen, Hulme came third with Brabham fifth, and Hulme finished one position behind at the final race to do just enough.

1968
Graham Hill (55)
Denny Hulme (36)
Jacky Ickx (35)
Pedro Rodríguez (32)
Jo Siffert (21)
John Surtees (14)
Chris Amon (13)
Richard Attwood (10)
Jochen Rindt (10)
Jim Clark (9)
Jo Bonnier (9)
Vic Elford (9)
Ludovico Scarfiotti (8)
Silvio Moser (4)
Jack Brabham (4)

Hill 24, Ickx 21, Rodríguez 18, Hulme 14 after six races. Ickx got third at Brands Hatch, putting him one point into the lead. Hill won the next race with Ickx third again. Then Ickx got a 2nd with Hill retiring, putting Ickx two points ahead. Also, Hulme won, putting him eight points behind Ickx. Hulme won again at Canada with Hill third, making it Hill 37 and Hulme 36 with two races left, a broken leg ruling Ickx out of the race and probably championship fight. Then Hill won with Hulme retiring.

1969
Jacky Ickx (50)
Denny Hulme (37)
Graham Hill (34)
Jochen Rindt (28)
Jo Siffert (26)
Jack Brabham (16)
Vic Elford (12)
John Surtees (12)
Pedro Rodríguez (12)
Richard Attwood (8)
Chris Amon (6)
Silvio Moser (6)
Pete Lovely (5)
Rolf Stommelen (3)
Peter Westbury (2)
John Miles (1)

After four races, the standings were Hulme 22, Siffert 19, Hill 19, others a lot less. Everyone scored in France, Hulme now leading Hill by 1. Ickx's win put him 8 behind and so in serious contention. He won again at Silverstone, with Hulme not scoring, and now all four were within four points of each other. At the Nürburgring, Ickx won again with Hill in second, and now Ickx led by two points from Hill. Hill gained a point on him at Monza, with the other two getting themselves back in contention. Ickx then won with none of the others scoring, and in the penultimate race none of them scored. Teased again.
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1970
Jochen Rindt (45)
Jacky Ickx (44)
Denny Hulme (39)
Pedro Rodríguez (34)
Chris Amon (34)
Rolf Stommelen (20)
Jack Brabham (19)
Graham Hill (18)
John Surtees (10)
John Miles (8)
Ignazio Giunti (7)
Jo Siffert (6)
Reine Wisell (6)
Ronnie Peterson (5)
John Love (2)
Peter Gethin (2)
Derek Bell (2)

Going into Canada, Hulme was 13 points behind Rindt. Hulme didn't score, but Ickx won, putting him 14 behind. Low finishes for both in the US meant Rindt won.

1971
Ronnie Peterson (54)
Jo Siffert (37)
Jacky Ickx (30)
Reine Wisell (24)
Chris Amon (24)
Denny Hulme (17)
John Surtees (16)
Peter Gethin (16)
Tim Schenken (14)
Rolf Stommelen (13)
Graham Hill (12)
Pedro Rodríguez (11)
Nanni Galli (2)
Jo Bonnier (2)
David Hobbs (2)

Jacky Ickx had a 13-point lead after four races. A couple mechanical failures later and Peterson was 4 points behind him and Amon 9. Another non-score later, Peterson was ahead by 5. More non-finishes for Ickx and points for Peterson meant an 11-point gap going into the penultimate race at Canada, which Peterson won.

1972
Denny Hulme (68)
Peter Revson (46)
Jacky Ickx (42)
Ronnie Peterson (36)
Chris Amon (35)
Graham Hill (19)
Wilson Fittipaldi (14)
Tim Schenken (13)
Niki Lauda (10)
Rolf Stommelen (6)
Peter Gethin (3)
Mike Beuttler (3)
Jody Scheckter (3)
Reine Wisell (2)

After five races of twelve, Ickx and Hulme were tied on 27, Revson the next on 16. In the next two races, Hulme scored some minor points and then he was seven ahead, with Amon and Revson now just 1 and 3 points off Ickx. Ickx won in Germany with none of the others scoring, then he didn't score in Austria with Hulme winning. The same result at Monza left Hulme with a huge gap, and he sealed it with a 2nd in Canada.

1973
Peter Revson (68)
Denny Hulme (66)
Ronnie Peterson (63)
Jacky Ickx (44)
George Follmer (22)
Wilson Fittipaldi (19)
Niki Lauda (18)
Mike Beuttler (13)
Chris Amon (12)
Rolf Stommelen (8)
Graham Hill (7)
Nanni Galli (4)
Jody Scheckter (3)
Luiz Bueno (2)
Rikky von Opel (1)
Tim Schenken (1)
Graham Hill (1)

After five races of suddenly fifteen, Hulme had 29 points, with Revson the next on 18. After the middle third, Hulme and Revson were five points apart. A couple wins for Peterson meant that he was suddenly a contender, and specifically, with two races to go, Hulme led Revson by three points and Peterson by four. Revson won with Hulme in a low position and Peterson retiring, giving Revson a four-point lead into the final race. He finished a position behind Hulme to take the championship.

1974
Jody Scheckter (67)
Ronnie Peterson (54)
Denny Hulme (47)
Niki Lauda (43)
John Watson (31)
Graham Hill (28)
Jacky Ickx (24)
Hans-Joachim Stuck (17)
Vittorio Brambilla (12)
Guy Edwards (10)
Rolf Stommelen (6)
Tom Pryce (5)
Rikky von Opel (4)
David Hobbs (4)
Helmuth Koinigg (4)
Chris Amon (4)
Tom Belsø (3)
Tim Schenken (3)
Dieter Quester (2)
Richard Robarts (1)
François Migault (1)

After round 6 at Monaco, it was Lauda 24, Scheckter 24, Hulme 23, Peterson 17, Stuck 15. Three races later, there was a simpler message, Lauda 4 behind Scheckter and the only one within a win. Scheckter then won a couple races and no one was close again.
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1975
Niki Lauda (103)
Jody Scheckter (49)
Tom Pryce (32)
Ronnie Peterson (26)
Vittorio Brambilla (25)
Jacky Ickx (21.5)
Tony Brise (20)
John Watson (16.5)
Wilson Fittipaldi (7)
Graham Hill (6)
Rolf Stommelen (5)
Brett Lunger (3)
Chris Amon (2)
Hans-Joachim Stuck (2)
Guy Tunmer (1)
John Nicholson (1)
Jim Crawford (1)
LAUDAWINSLOL

1976
Niki Lauda (87)
Jody Scheckter (79)
Tom Pryce (41)
John Watson (41)
Gunnar Nilsson (28)
Ronnie Peterson (25)
Hans-Joachim Stuck (16)
Vittorio Brambilla (11)
Chris Amon (10)
Jacky Ickx (8)
Rolf Stommelen (7)
Brett Lunger (7)
Michel Leclère (5)
Renzo Zorzi (1)
Loris Kessel (1)
Guy Edwards (1)
Warwick Brown (1)
Lauda won the first six races. Like real life, his season dropped off after that. Scheckter's consistency meant there was also no battle for second. When Lauda came back, he still had twelve points on Scheckter, but better results for Scheckter over the following races meant that he could win in the final race if he won and Lauda didn't score. He didn't win.

1977
Niki Lauda (94)
Jody Scheckter (72)
Gunnar Nilsson (42)
Hans-Joachim Stuck (39)
Vittorio Brambilla (38)
John Watson (28)
Ronnie Peterson (24)
Brett Lunger (19)
Patrick Tambay (6)
Renzo Zorzi (4)
Kunimitsu Takahashi (4)
Ingo Hoffmann (3)
Jacky Ickx (3)
Danny Ongais (3)
Gilles Villeneuve (3)
Kazuyoshi Hoshino (2)
Lauda and Scheckter traded wins, and after seven races, they were tied on 39. Nilsson was next on 27. Nilsson got some minor points with neither scoring, then a win, suddenly making him a factor. Then Lauda WONLOL and sealed up the championship with three races to go.

1978
Ronnie Peterson (75)
Niki Lauda (60)
John Watson (47)
Jody Scheckter (44)
Gilles Villeneuve (38)
Patrick Tambay (35)
Didier Pironi (34)
Vittorio Brambilla (11)
Brett Lunger (10)
Rolf Stommelen (10)
Hans-Joachim Stuck (7)
Nelson PiqA (4)
BobbE Rahal (3)
Jacky Ickx (2)
Keke Rosberg (2)
Rolf Stommelen (1)
After five races, it was Lauda 27, Peterson 24. Peterson won the next two with Lauda not scoring. The Swedish crowd got hyped for a hat trick, then Lauda beat him by 34 seconds. Then at the very next race, Peterson won and Lauda didn't score. He was 24 points ahead for the antepenultimate race at Monza, where as we know he died. Lauda won, but his engine failed in the next race.

1979
Jody Scheckter (94)
Gilles Villeneuve (76)
John Watson (48)
Didier Pironi (42)
Nelson Piquet (14)
Patrick Tambay (11)
Hans-Joachim Stuck (10)
Jacky Ickx (8)
Niki Lauda (8)
Keke Rosberg (4)
Geoff Lees (4)
Ricardo Zunino (2)
Patrick Gaillard (1)
Vittorio Brambilla (1)
Scheckter versus Villeneuve. The first significant lead came after Monaco, Scheckter's win with Villeneuve's non-score putting him 12 points ahead. Scheckter pulled out a gap, 21 ahead after Hockenheim. He won the title at Monza with two races to spare.
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Predictions 1980 - date

1980 Piquet
1981 Piquet
1982 Rosberg
1983 Think Prost may benefit more from elimination so will say him over Piquet
1984 Lauda
1985 Prost
1986 Prost
1987 Piquet
1988 Prost
1989 Prost
1990 Prost
1991 Some obscure Frenchman driving a truck.....

1992 REALLY looking forward to this one. You can't have Mansell, Patrese, Schumacher, Senna, Berger, Brundle, Alesi, Hakkinen, De Cesaris, Alboreto, Comas, Wendlinger or Capelli. The top eligible driver is Boutsen who was 14th!!! JJ Lehto could get it on finishes but if he goes under his full name then he's out as well!!! :)

1993 Prost
1994 Hill
1995 Hill
1996 Hill
1997 Coulthard
1998 Coulthard
1999 Irvine
2000 Coulthard
2001 Coulthard
2002 Montoya
2003 Montoya
2004 Button
2005 Trulli's got a chance there with Montoya DNFing a lot and missing 2 races.
2006 Button
2007 Slightly bored!!
2008 And again!!
2009 Button
2010 Button
2011 Button
2012 Button
2013 Rosberg
2014 Rosberg
2015 Rosberg
"Poor old Warwick takes it from behind all throughout this season". :) (Tony Jardine, 1988)
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1980
Nelson Piquet (84)
Didier Pironi (62)
Alain Prost (35)
Keke Rosberg (30)
Gilles Villeneuve (34)
John Watson (25)
Jody Scheckter (23)
Ricardo Zunino (11)
Geoff Lees (2)
Eddie Cheever (1)
After four races, it looked like a battle between Piquet and Pironi, 24-22 the championship scoreline. They both kept winning and keeping the championship close, then Piquet got four consecutive wins from the UK to the Netherlands and clinched it with three races to spare.

1981
Nelson Piquet (72)
John Watson (59)
Alain Prost (48)
Gilles Villeneuve (39)
Didier Pironi (33)
Eddie Cheever (31)
Patrick Tambay (16)
Keke Rosberg (12)
Siegfried Stohr (9)
Slim Borgudd (8)
Ricardo Zunino (5)
The next year looked very different after its first four races, or the same depending on which portion of the year you're talking about. Piquet had 30 points, Watson next on 12. Villeneuve won the next three races and Piquet didn't score at all, putting GillEs VillEnEuvE ahead by one point. Villeneuve then stopped scoring, but Piquet didn't keep winning, and only two races later, John Watson led Piquet by 3. Piquet won the next two races. Going into the penultimate race at Canada, Watson was 16 behind. He did all he could, but Piquet's third place was enough.

1982
Keke Rosberg (56)
John Watson (55)
Didier Pironi (51)
Alain Prost (48)
Niki Lauda (37)
Patrick Tambay (33)
Eddie Cheever (22)
Nelson Piquet (21)
Mauro Baldi (15)
Slim Borgudd (8)
Gilles Villeneuve (6)
Roberto Guerrero (4)
Geoff Lees (1)
So, was nintn ighty-two nearly as crazy as the real 1982? Well, after the first quarter of the season, nine points covered the top five. Four more races and this was down to two, Watson 37, Pironi 30. Watson's season went the wrong way, and after race 11, Pironi had a 14-point lead, the first time someone led by more than a win. Of course, he died, but it took a while for anyone to catch up. Rosberg suddenly became amazing and, with two races left, he had the effective lead on 50, with Prost on 44 and Watson 40. Watson came second at Monza and cut the gap to 7. Watson won the final race comfortably, but Rosberg finished fourth, and so he was denied again.

1983
Alain Prost (70)
Nelson Piquet (67)
Patrick Tambay (47)
Keke Rosberg (44)
Eddie Cheever (36)
John Watson (34)
Niki Lauda (17)
Thierry Boutsen (14)
Mauro Baldi (10)
Johnny Cecotto (10)
Danny Sullivan (10)
Roberto Guerrero (5)
Corrado Fabi (3)
Piquet, Watson, Prost, Tambay, and Rosberg won the first five races. Prost became the first repeat winner at Spa. He kept a small lead over Rosberg, Tambay, and Piquet, then won three races from the UK to Austria. The rest of the season was more troubled, but he still won the championship with a race to go. Piquet won the last three races, so don't let the final score fool you; it was Prost's to lose after the middle third of the season.

1984
Alain Prost (77.5)
Niki Lauda (73)
Nelson Piquet (44)
Keke Rosberg (34)
Patrick Tambay (30)
Thierry Boutsen (23)
Eddie Cheever (19)
Mauro Baldi (12)
Corrado Fabi (6)
Johnny Cecotto (3)
Prost held a moderate lead for much of the season, just more than a win. That came in pretty handy when he spun on oil in Austria and Lauda won, putting Lauda 2.5 points back. Prost won at Zandvoort with Lauda behind, but a failure at Monza put Lauda 3.5 ahead, but Prost won at the Newrburgring with Lauda third. So, could Prost keep Lauda from gaining two points on him in the final race in Estoril? Prost rendered all permutation talk pointless by winning by 13 seconds.
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James, Lehto will be eligible. I'm calling him Jyrki Järvilehto, but Ä is a letter in Finnish and not an accented A.

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Jyrki Järvilehto: no A
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UgncreativeUsergname wrote:1982
Keke Rosberg (56)
John Watson (55)
Didier Pironi (51)
Pironi had a 14-point lead, the first time someone led by more than a win. Of course, he died.

Well, yes, he did die, but not until 1987 in a powerboat race round the Isle of Wight. Four days before I was born, he crashed in the German Grand Prix, severely smashing his legs. An insurance policy on his career paid out, meaning that he would have to repay the money if he ever returned to F1.
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dr-baker wrote:
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:1982
Keke Rosberg (56)
John Watson (55)
Didier Pironi (51)
Pironi had a 14-point lead, the first time someone led by more than a win. Of course, he died.

Well, yes, he did die, but not until 1987 in a powerboat race round the Isle of Wight. Four days before I was born, he crashed in the German Grand Prix, severely smashing his legs. An insurance policy on his career paid out, meaning that he would have to repay the money if he ever returned to F1.

I forgot that a certain person didn't actually die :facepalm: I'm like those idiots on YouTube asking if Zanardi died. (Yes, some people needed to be corrected on that)
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1985
Alain Prost (92)
Keke Rosberg (63)
Thierry Boutsen (51)
Nelson Piquet (38)
Patrick Tambay (36)
Niki Lauda (17)
Philippe Streiff (13)
Eddie Cheever (7)
John Watson (3)
Tambay, Prost, and Boutsen looked like the main contenders after four races. Prost and Rosberg picked it up, and with half the season gone, Prost led Tambay by 12, who led Piquet in fifth by 4. Prost won three of the next four races, no one else consistent, and one more made him champion.

1986
Alain Prost (109)
Nelson Piquet (85)
Keke Rosberg (40)
Philippe Streiff (35)
Johnny Dumfries (26)
Thierry Boutsen (21)
Patrick Tambay (16)
Prost won races 2-8. Finally, Piquet won at Brands, cutting the gap down to 29. Piquet won again at Hockenheim. And Hungary. But Prost resumed winning at Austria and Piquet retired, and so the championship never got close.

1987
Nelson Piquet (99)
Alain Prost (74)
Satoru Nakajima (44)
Thierry Boutsen (43)
Philippe Streiff (38)
Eddie Cheever (29)
Yannick Dalmas (10)
Roberto Moreno (4)
Adrián Campos (1)

Philippe Streiff (90)
Yannick Dalmas (21)
Roberto Moreno (6)
Prost had the lead for the first six races, then Piquet took it off him and pulled away. I know Dalmas officially couldn't score in Australia, but it's in the true spirit of the "F2 drivers get points" rule to say he could.

1988
Alain Prost (126)
Thierry Boutsen (65)
Nelson Piquet (52)
Eddie Cheever (36)
Satoru Nakajima (29)
Yannick Dalmas (23)
Philippe Streiff (16)
Nicola Larini (8)
Bernd Schneider (4)
Oscar Larrauri (2)
Aguri Suzuki (2)
Prost didn't win in the UK and Italy.

1989
Alain Prost (123)
Thierry Boutsen (64)
Nelson Piquet (41)
Eddie Cheever (40)
Satoru Nakajima (24)
Johnny Herbert (19)
Nicola Larini (2)
Prost didn't win in Canada, Hungary, Japan, and Australia. Boutsen won all of these races.
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1990
Alain Prost (102)
Nelson Piquet (79)
Thierry Boutsen (64)
Nicola Larini (37)
Aguri Suzuki (21)
Satoru Nakajima (19)
Roberto Moreno (11)
Paolo Barilla (10)
Gregor Foitek (8)
Bernd Schneider (3)
Yannick Dalmas (3)
Jyrki Järvilehto (2)
David Brabham (2)
Piquet led with 25 after five races, Boutsen and Prost on 24. Then Frari made their car reliable and Prost WONLOL.

1991
Nelson Piquet (80)
Alain Prost (76)
Roberto Moreno (63)
Thierry Boutsen (41)
Satoru Nakajima (30)
Jyrki Järvilehto (26)
Johnny Herbert (20)
Nicola Larini (10)
Aguri Suzuki (3)
Prost won the first two races, then Frari unreliability ensued and Moreno and Piquet got in range. After six races, Roberto Moreno led the championship, so beat that. Prost won the next two races to retake the lead, but his car struck again, twice in a row, and Moreno, winning both those races, took it back. He extended his lead by 6, then the Frari held together for Monza, and a self-imposed retirement for Moreno meant Prost led by two points. Hiding in the shadows in all of this was a consistent Nelson Piquet, and a win at Estoril put him in a tie for the lead with Moreno. Prost won in Spain with Moreno absent, and with two to go, the score was Prost 66 and Piquet 64. Prost won again, making the gap 6. And then bam, sudden team-driver fallout, no Prost in Adelaide. Moreno was there but mathematically eliminated and in a Minardi, and so Piquet strolled to victory by default.

1992
Jyrki Järvilehto (74)
Aguri Suzuki (60)
Thierry Boutsen (53)
Christian Fittipaldi (38)
Johnny Herbert (36)
Ukyo Katayama (29)
Damon Hill (13)
Nicola Larini (5)
Johnny Herbert won the first two races and abruptly stopped scoring. Suzuki took the lead after race 5. Herbert won again at Magny-Cours, tying him with Suzuki, but by that time Järvilehto was 14 points away. The winners after that were Boutsen, Boutsen, and Hill, which didn't mean much for the championship, but only Järvilehto was consistent. He went back to winning at Spa, after which he was 22 ahead of Suzuki. He finished it off at Estoril, althought it would be more accurate to say Boutsen finished it off, as he was the one who kept Suzuki from winning and keeping the title open.

1993
Alain Prost (125)
Damon Hill (92)
Christian Fittipaldi (40)
Johnny Herbert (33)
Jyrki Järvilehto (28)
Thierry Boutsen (16)
Aguri Suzuki (12)
Ukyo Katayama (11)
Fabrizio Barbazza (10)
Eddie Irvine (4)
Toshio Suzuki (4)
Hill had more mechanical failures, but Prost was still a deserving champion. After his 1992 sabbatical, Prost retired for good after this year. His WINNINGLOL will be missed, or maybe not.

1994
Damon Hill (120)
Christian Fittipaldi (42)
Johnny Herbert (33)
David Coulthard (30)
Eddie Irvine (25)
Ukyo Katayama (20)
Jyrki Järviletho (18)
David Brabham (18)
Nicola Larini (10)
Mika Salo (3)
Yannick Dalmas (1)
It took five races for someone to get 20 points. That someone was Damon Hill, who then had an 11-point lead over second and a 15-point lead over sixth. He dominated the rest of the season and won the championship with four races to go.
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I was spot on about 1992 LOL
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James1978 wrote:I was spot on about 1992 LOL

But you mentioned Boutsen and not Suzuki! So that's one missed prediction, but you did get the winner, of course.
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1995
Damon Hill (88)
Johnny Herbert (86)
David Coulthard (74)
Mika Salo (49)
Eddie Irvine (42)
Pedro Diniz (19)
Aguri Suzuki (10)
Ukyo Katayama (10)
Massimiliano Papis (6)
Roberto Moreno (4)
Hill, Herbert, and Coulthard looked like the protagonists after the first four. Hill pulled out a twenty-point lead over the next three races, but a retirement for him and win for Herbert made the championship close again. Another retirement made Herbert 4 behind and Coulthard 8. Hill won twice and got a decent gap again, then another Hill DNF and Herbert win put the gap back at 4. Coulthard won a couple races to put himself back in contention, and Herbert continued to be usually slower than Hill but better at finishing. With three races to go, Hill and Herbert were tied on 72, with Coulthard on 64. A Coulthard-Hill-Herbert result at Aida meant they were two points apart each. At Suzuka, Hill and Coulthard both spun out to gift Herbert the win and likely the championship. Going into the final race at Adelaide, Hill was eight points behind Herbert, Coulthard out. Hill took pole, but Coulthard led until the end of his first stint, when he crashed into the pit wall of all places, handing the lead to his teammate. Still, Herbert just needed to finish. But on lap 70 of 81, his transmission failed, and Hill coasted to victory by three laps over Salo. Incensed at the blatant team orders costing him the title, Herbert complained to anyone and everyone within five metres of his path for days after the race, but unfortunately for him, it wasn't 2003 yet, so that was all he could do.

1996
Damon Hill (116)
David Coulthard (59)
Mika Salo (37)
Johnny Herbert (35)
Pedro Diniz (33)
Eddie Irvine (31)
Ukyo Katayama (20)
Giovanni Lavaggi (4)
Hill won the first three races and no one caught him.

1997
Eddie Irvine (78)
Johnny Herbert (78)
David Coulthard (66)
Damon Hill (38)
Jarno Trulli (36)
Shinji Nakano (31)
Pedro Diniz (25)
Mika Salo (25)
Nicola Larini (16)
Ukyo Katayama (16)
After four races, Irvine had 20 (he showed up suddenly, winning races 3 and 4), with Coulthard, Herbert, and Larini all on 16. Irvine won again, the other three didn't score, and Salo joined the 16-point club. A couple bad weekends for Irvine and wins for Herbert and he was in the lead, two points ahead of Irvine. Irvine hit back at Magny-Cours, then they both retired at Silverstone and Coulthard got between them. None of them scored much in the next two races, then Herbert won at Spa. A retirement for him and win for Coulthard bunched them all back up again. Coulthard won again in Austria, and afterwards he led Herbert by two points, who led Irvine by another two points. Three races to go, and Herbert's 2nd at "Luxembourg" was enough to give him the lead with neither of the others scoring. Irvine won at Suzuka, but Herbert finished second again. Going into the final race, Herbert had 72, Irvine 68, and Coulthard 66. If Herbert or Irvine won, they would also be count-back champion. As in the previous race, Irvine won with Herbert second, and Herbert once again lost the title by the width of an endplate.

1998
Eddie Irvine (104)
David Coulthard (101)
Damon Hill (52)
Johnny Herbert (31)
Shinji Nakano (26)
Jarno Trulli (22)
Pedro Diniz (19)
Mika Salo (18)
Coulthard took three of the first four, Irvine's win of the other and seconds in the rest keeping him in touch. Reliability gave Irvine the lead after Canada, and his lead expanded and contracted until Hungary, when a win for Coulthard and a gearbox failure for him put Coulthard back ahead by 4. Coulthard got a few points from Spa, but retired at Monza, and Irvine's win put him ahead by 3. In the penultimate race at the Nürburgring, Coulthard won ahead of Irvine, putting them a point apart for Japan. Coulthard qualified ahead of Irvine, but Irvine took him at the start and won by 21 seconds.

1999
Eddie Irvine (122)
David Coulthard (69)
Johnny Herbert (37)
Jarno Trulli (32)
Mika Salo (27)
Damon Hill (26)
Pedro Diniz (15)
Ricardo Zonta (10)
Irvine won the first two races with no one else scoring. Coulthard eventually established himself as the challenger, but he never got that close.
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2000
David Coulthard (136)
Jenson Button (49)
Jarno Trulli (44)
Mika Salo (44)
Ricardo Zonta (42)
Eddie Irvine (35)
Pedro Diniz (26)
Johnny Herbert (21)
Nick Heidfeld (13)
Luciano Burti (1)
After some unreliability for him, Coulthard took the lead after Silverstone, which was the fourth race and that's weird. Before this, Zonta had the championship lead, and he kept second until after Canada. Coulthard wrapped up the championship with five races to go, but for second place, Trulli was on 41 and Button 37. Button jumped ahead after Spa, then neither scored at Monza, a race which Zonta won. They both retired in the US and Zonta came second. The standings with two races left were Button 43, Trulli 41, Zonta 40, Salo 39. Button's 2nd in Japan put him 7 points ahead of Zonta, and Coulthard won as usual, so he took it.

2001
David Coulthard (112)
Juan Pablo Montoya (53)
Kimi Räikkönen (46)
Nick Heidfeld (46)
Jarno Trulli (41)
Jenson Button (28)
Eddie Irvine (27)
Enrique Bernoldi (21)
Luciano Burti (20)
Ricardo Zonta (6)
Tomáš Enge (3)
Coulthard won the first four races. Catalunya was won by Montoya, his first finish in F1. Again focussing on second, Trulli and Heidfeld were equal on 22 after Austria. Neither scored at Monaco, and Räikkönen put himself amongst them with a win in Canada, Trulli keeping second thanks to a classified non-finish. Räikkönen overtook Trulli at the Nürburgring, but it was reversed the next race, but then it was reversed again. Their semi-consistent scoring, by the way, was just enough to keep away Montoya and Heidfeld, but not enough to keep one of them from taking second if even a single result went exactly the right way. Trulli dropped off, but Räikkonen continued to do just enough, and entering the penultimate race, he led Montoya by 3 and Heidfeld by 6. Heidfeld got fourth at Indianapolis, the only score amongst them, but more dramatically at the final race in Suzuka, Räikkonen crashed and Montoya's car held together.

2002
Juan Pablo Montoya (101)
David Coulthard (87)
Kimi Räikkönen (52)
Jenson Button (45)
Nick Heidfeld (42)
Jarno Trulli (31)
Eddie Irvine (24)
Mika Salo (19)
Takuma Sato (15)
Allan McNish (12)
Enrique Bernoldi (4)
Montoya won five of the first six races, but Coulthard was consistent, and two wins for him and breakdowns for Montoya later put him only eight points behind. At the Nürburgring, this happened. The pattern continued, Montoya winning and Coulthard finishing, and going into Indy, Montoya was 12 points ahead. Coulthard won there, two seconds ahead of Montoya, to keep it alive. Then in the final race, Coulthard's car broke seven laps in.

2003
Kimi Räikkönen (116)
Juan Pablo Montoya (109)
David Coulthard (73)
Jarno Trulli (61)
Cristiano da Matta (52)
Jenson Button (52)
Nick Heidfeld (46)
Antônio Pizzonia (24)
Ralph Firman (21)
Justin Wilson (15)
Takuma Sato (4)
Räikkonen won four out of six, then Montoya won six in a row. Räikkonen finally won in Hungary, and they each won one after that, putting Montoya three points ahead for the finale at Suzuka. Montoya retired on lap 10.

2004
Jenson Button (134)
Jarno Trulli (100)
Juan Pablo Montoya (97)
Takuma Sato (73)
David Coulthard (70)
Kimi Räikkönen (68)
Nick Heidfeld (34)
Cristiano da Matta (26)
Giorgio Pantano (14)
Antônio Pizzonia (14)
Gianmaria Bruni (13)
Timo Glock (10)
Ricardo Zonta (10)
The first eight races went Montoya×2, Button×2, Trulli×2, Button×2. After nine, Button and Trulli were the only reasonable contenders, tied on 70. Trulli got unreliable and Button pulled out a 21-point gap. Button won with two races still to run.
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Oops I hadn't realised Kimi would be in when I did my predictions. Really hope it doesn't deprive Heidfeld of a championship (2007 definitely will be but as the slightly boing one was classified in EVERY race in 2008, he could still just sneak that - he did in the number 2s championship I did).
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2005
Kimi Räikkönen (134)
Jarno Trulli (93)
Juan Pablo Montoya (85)
David Coulthard (80)
Jenson Button (75)
Nick Heidfeld (55)
Takuma Sato (28)
Robert Doornbos (20)
Antônio Pizzonia (14)
Vitantonio Liuzzi (10)
Trulli led after the three flyaways, Coulthard 4 points off and Räikkönen 7. Over the next few races, Trulli wasn't always faster than them, but he was consistent, plus they kept taking points off each other. Heidfeld won his first race at the Nürburgring. Räikkönen then won some races, and Trulli's pretty okay results weren't enough to stop him as he took the lead after Magny-Cours. Despite consistently finishing better, Räikkönen couldn't pull away much with Trulli's consistency and reliability, and with four races to go he had a 10-point gap. Then Trulli retired and the championship got a lot less exciting. A second place for Räikkönen and classified non-finish for Trulli sealed the title.

2006
Kimi Räikkönen (114)
Jenson Button (110)
Nick Heidfeld (81)
Jarno Trulli (71)
David Coulthard (67)
Vitantonio Liuzzi (50)
Scott Speed (48)
Nico Rosberg (43)
Juan Pablo Montoya (42)
Takuma Sato (22)
Robert Doornbos (10)
Sakon Yamamoto (3)
Yuji Ide (2)
Franck Montagny (2)
After Imola, we had Button 28, Räikkönen 28, Montoya 24. Then Räikkönen won three out of four and made himself a 16-point gap to Montoya and 18 to Button. Montoya left F1 and Button's season fell apart, and after that set of four Räikkönen had a 36-point lead. Then twice in a row, Button won and Kimi retired. Räikkönen won a race, then again he retired with Button on top. Button was now only eight points behind, and he won at Suzuka, but Räikkönen came second. The same result happened at the final in Interlagos.

2007
Kimi Räikkönen (146)
Nick Heidfeld (112)
Nico Rosberg (72)
Jarno Trulli (58)
David Coulthard (57)
Jenson Button (54)
Takuma Sato (38)
Anthony Davidson (34)
Vitantonio Liuzzi (26)
Adrian Sutil (23)
Scott Speed (13)
Sakon Yamamoto (3)
Kazuki Nakajima (3)
Räikkönen won and Heidfeld came second. Sometimes one of them retired.

2008
Kimi Räikkönen (125)
Nick Heidfeld (123)
Jarno Trulli (82)
Timo Glock (80)
Nico Rosberg (67)
Kazuki Nakajima (54)
Nelson Piquet Jr. (49)
David Coulthard (47)
Jenson Button (42)
Adrian Sutil (7)
Anthony Davidson (3)
Takuma Sato (2)
Räikkönen fast, Heidfeld reliable. Going into the last race, Heidfeld was 3 ahead. Räikkönen won, but Heidfeld wasn't right there in second.

2009
Jenson Button (126)
Kimi Räikkönen (93.5)
Nico Rosberg (80)
Timo Glock (67)
Jarno Trulli (62.5)
Nick Heidfeld (61)
Kazuki Nakajima (30.5)
Adrian Sutil (28)
Nelson Piquet Jr. (15)
Kamui Kobayashi (12)
Vitantonio Liuzzi (10)
In stark contrast to real life, BUTTONWINSLOL in the first eight races. Button won the championship in Japan.
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