Grand Prix Rejects

As discussed in the PMMF Planning Thread, I am taking control of the Alt-F1 canon in the late 80s and thereon with a proper game. Before you enter, please be aware of the following: This game serves the narrative almost as much as it serves the purpose of having fun. Having permanent success with a backmarker in this game is going to be extremely challenging.

Waiting List:
Ataxia
FantometteBR
Wizzie
AndreaModa
SeedStriker
FullMetalJack

1987 Formula 1 Season Preview - The Edge Of Heaven

1986 was the year of Williams, the line-up of Guillaume Gauthier and Nigel Mansell enabled the British team to secure both the world's drivers and world's constructors championships. However, the lineup did not survive the off-season. With 13 other teams looking to dethrone Williams-Honda, who is closest to Formula 1 heaven?

Rule Changes:
- To both increase the quality of the grid and to make racing more safe, the number of cars that qualify for a race has been decreased from 30 to 26. With 28 cars entered for the season, that means two cars will not qualify each weekend.
- From 1987 on, all F1 teams must enter two cars in all race weekends of the F1 season.
- Mid-race refueling will be permitted to add an element of excitement to the race.
- Tyres will exclusively be supplied by Goodyear.
- A mandatory pop-off valve will be added to all turbo-powered cars which restricts boost to 4.0 bar to limit engine power.
- The points system was changed back to 9-6-4-3-2-1, with the 11 best results counting towards the championship.

Season Calendar:
Foster's Australian Grand Prix – Adalaide Street Circuit – 12 April (L)
Gran Premio di San Marino – Autodromo Dino Ferrari – 3 May
Grand Prix de Belgique – Circuit de Spa-Francorchamp – 17 May
Grand Prix de Monaco – Circuit de Monaco – 31 May
Grand Prix du Canada – Mosport Park – 14 June (L)
Detroit Grand Prix – Detroit Street Circuit – 21 June (L)
Grand Prix de France – Circuit Paul Ricard – 12 July
Shell Oils British Grand Prix – Silverstone Circuit – 19 July
Großer Mobil 1 Preis von Deutschland – Hockenheimring – 3 August (L)
Magyar Nagydij – Hungaroring – 16 August
Yugoslavian Grand Prix – Automotodrom Grobnik – 23 August (L)
Italian Grand Prix – Autodromo Nazionale Monza – 13 September
Grande Prémio de Portugal – Autódromo do Estoril – 27 September
Grand Prix de l'Europe – Circuit de Dijon-Prenois – 11 October (L)
Japanese Grand Prix – Suzuka Circuit – 1 November (L)
Gran Premio McDonald's de Mexico – Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez – 15 November (L)


Car Preview:

Camel Team Lotus Honda
#1: Guillaume Gauthier
#2: Derek Warwick
Chassis Designation: 99T
Engine: Honda
Fuel Supplier: Elf


Data General Team Tyrrell
#3: Martin Brundle
#4: Derek Warwick
Chassis Designation: DG016
Engine: Ford Cosworth
Fuel Supplier: Elf


Canon Williams Honda Team
#5: Ayrton Senna
#6: Brendon Cassidy
Chassis Designation: FW11B
Engine: Honda
Fuel Supplier: Mobil


West Zakspeed Racing
#9: Stefan Johansson
#10: Valentino Nicchi
Chassis Designation: 871
Engine: Zakspeed
Fuel Supplier: Wintershall


Marlboro McLaren International
#11: Jérémy-Étienne Voeckler
#12: Gerhard Berger
Chassis Designation: MP4/3
Engine: TAG-Porsche
Fuel Supplier: Shell


Leyton House March Racing Team
#15: Robert Kagan
#16: Ivan Capelli
Chassis Designation: 871
Engine: Ford Cosworth
Fuel Supplier: Shell


USF&G Arrows Racing Team
#17: Nigel Mansell
#18: Chris Dagnall
Chassis Designation: A10
Engine: Motori Moderni
Fuel Supplier: Agip


Benetton Formula Ltd
#19: Thierry Boutsen
#20: Yannick Dalmas
Chassis Designation: B187
Engine: Ford Cosworth Turbo
Fuel Supplier: Mobil


Osella Squadra Corse
#21: Alex Caffi
#22: Frank Jelinski
Chassis Designation: FA1I
Engine: Alfa Romeo
Fuel Supplier: Agip


Minardi Team SpA
#23: Pierluigi Martini
#24: Alessandro Nannini
Chassis Designation: M187
Engine: Motori Moderni
Fuel Supplier: Agip


Ligier Loto
#25: René Arnoux
#26: Riccardo Patrese
Chassis Designation: JS29
Engine: Alfa Romeo
Fuel Supplier: Castrol


Scuderia Ferrari SpA SEFAC
#27: Michele Alboreto
#28: Alain Prost
Chassis Designation: F1/87
Engine: Ferrari
Fuel Supplier: Agip


Larrousse Calmels
#29: Philippe Alliot
#30: Arsenio Matarazzo
Chassis Designation: LC87
Engine: Ford Cosworth
Fuel Supplier: BP


Enzo Coloni Racing Car System
#31: Kazuki Fushida
#32: Nicola Larini
Chassis Designation: FC187
Engine: Ford Cosworth
Fuel Supplier: Agip

I'd like to manage Arrows, if possible.

Can I of has Tyrrell?, k thx.

Lets roll the dice and take over Larrouse.

Staying in line with my other interests, and living up to the Scotalian stereotype, I'm gonna ask for Scuderia Ferrari.

I would be interested in taking Minardi.

I'll give Coloni a try, since I'd like to see them try doing a full season in 1987.

Also, isn't Arrows powered by "Megatron" BMWs in 1987? Or is that a carryover from last season?

CaptainGetz12 wrote:Also, isn't Arrows powered by "Megatron" BMWs in 1987? Or is that a carryover from last season?

They were in real-life, but since Megatron sounds a like a shitty cartoon villain, there will be no Megatron in any series I am in charge of.

Klon wrote:

CaptainGetz12 wrote:Also, isn't Arrows powered by "Megatron" BMWs in 1987? Or is that a carryover from last season?

They were in real-life, but since Megatron sounds a like a shitty cartoon villain, there will be no Megatron in any series I am in charge of.

So there will not be any BMW engines for the 1987 season? Not that I think Coloni could afford them anyway

I'll go for Zakspeed please.

I'd love to run Ligier, in my good old tradition of running French teams and being stuck in the midfield.

I would love to run Benetton.

I'm going to wish myself luck as I take over Leyton House

I would like to take on Williams please.

The lack of Renault severely disturbs me. But if you must insist they are out of Formula 1 by 1987, I will settle for McLaren.

Klon wrote:

CaptainGetz12 wrote:Also, isn't Arrows powered by "Megatron" BMWs in 1987? Or is that a carryover from last season?

They were in real-life, but since Megatron sounds a like a shitty cartoon villain, there will be no Megatron in any series I am in charge of.

Megatron is a shitty cartoon villain.

I'll take control of Lotus, if all's OK.

As it seems to be the only team still available ill take control of Osella

Arsenio Matarazzo and his Sicilian monies are available for any team interested.

Brendon Cassidy is looking to finally break into the big leagues after several seasons toiling in the midfield. Should he not receive an acceptable offer, however, he will likely return to IndyCar. Valentino Nicchi is also looking for a drive.

After all pay driver messages have been sent (please let me know if somehow the forum PM failed to arrive), we can now sign some drivers. For those of you who are or were with "Alternate Formula 1 - The Current Era" the system will not be unfamiliar to you: basically you pick drivers and the gods of RNG decide in case of a real-life driver and the users decide for their fictional drivers.

Any F1 driver is entitled to a minimum wage of DM 200,000 per year. You may choose how long your driver contracts are (in number of races (please note that the 1987 season has 16 races as will the following seasons)).

Real-life F1 drivers that have not yet debuted by 1987 may not be hired earlier than one year before their first RL full season (e.g. Ralf Schumacher may not be hired before 1996). Obvious exceptions (e.g. a driver missing one or two races of their first RL season) will be accounted for. A driver that never had a full F1 season is excluded from this rule.

In addition, you may add clauses of all types to the contract. Obviously, drivers won't like clauses that could potentially hurt them. Furthermore, clauses that make the wage of a driver fully or partially conditional are banned.

Your team's budget must be >=0 after signing drivers and receiving the appropriate sponsorship money. Due to chassis and engine performance being predetermined for the first season of this game, your current budget serves solely for the purpose of hiring drivers.

Alright, please fill out this until Sunday, May 3 (10:00 p.m. CEST) and post it in this thread for real-life drivers - make sure you have enough options, any team that does not have a driver after the RNGs will be assigned a driver by me and trust me, that will not be pretty:



For fictional drivers, you just need to post this and get the user controlling the character to either post agreement in here or give it to me in the chatroom.

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Nigel Mansell
Offered Wage: €350.000
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses: Finishes top 5 in the drivers champioship

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Thierry Boutsen
Offered Wage: €260.000
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses: Finishes top 8 in the drivers champioship

--- First Driver ---
Candidate: Corrado Fabi
Offered Wage: €250.000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: Finishes top 8 in the drivers champioship

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Pierluigi Martini
Offered Wage: €280.000
Contract Length: 48 races
Other Clauses: Scores points

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Yannick Dalmas
Offered Wage: €250.000
Offered Length: 32 races
Other Clauses: Scores points

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Aguri Suzuki
Offered Wage: €250.000
Offered Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: Scores points

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Alain Prost
Offered Wage: 450,000 DM
Contract Length: 48 Races
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate: Nigel Mansell
Offered Wage: 300,000 DM
Contract Length: 32 Races
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate: Derek Warwick
Offered Wage: 300,000 DM
Contract Length: 32 Races
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate: Thierry Boutsen
Offered Wage: 250,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 Races
Other Clauses: N/A

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Chris Dagnall
Offered Wage: 350,000 DM
Contract Length: 32 Races
Other Clauses: N/A

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Pierluigi Martini
Offered Wage: DM 300,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Andrea de Cesaris
Offered Wage: DM 200,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: Must not crash by his own fault more than three times during the season

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Alessandro Nannini
Offered Wage: DM 300,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Alessandro Nannini
Offered Wage: DM 300,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Pierluigi Martini
Offered Wage: DM 300,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Luis Pérez-Sala
Offered Wage: DM 300,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

---First Driver---
Candidate A: Yannick Dalmas
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: none

Candidate B: Phillipe Alliot
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

Candidate C: Jacques Villeneuve Sr.
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

Candidate D: Kazuyoshi Hoshino
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: None


---Second Driver---
Driver Name: Arsenio Matarazzo
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: none
Controlling User: Nuppiz

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Ayrton Senna
Offered Wage: 1,000,000 DM
Contract Length: 2 years
Other Clauses: None

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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Brendon Cassidy
Offered Wage: 750,000 DM
Contract Length: 2 years
Other Clauses: None
Controlling User: Salamander

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Nigel Mansell
Offered Wage: 450,000 DM
Contract Length: 2 years
Other Clauses: None

Klon wrote:Any F1 driver is entitled to a minimum wage of DM 200,000 per year. You may choose how long your driver contracts are (in number of races (please note that the 1987 season has 16 races, as will the following seasons)).

Please adjust your bids accordingly.

---- First Driver ----
Candidate A: Michele Alboreto
Offered Wage: 400K
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses:
- 100K raise for 2nd year of contract if WDC in '87
- 50K raise for 2nd year of contract if 2nd or 3rd in WC in '87
- Team has right to terminate his contract one year early if team-mate outscores him at ratio of 3:1

Candidate B: Alain Prost
Offered Wage: 400K
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: n/a

Candidate C: Stefan Johansson
Offered Wage: 300K
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: n/a

Candidate D: Keke Rosberg
Offered Wage: 300K
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: n/a
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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate A: Nigel Mansell
Offered Wage: 400K
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses:
- 100K raise for 2nd year of contract if WDC in '87
- 50K raise for 2nd year of contract if 2nd or 3rd in WC in '87
- Team has right to terminate his contract one year early if team-mate outscores him at ratio of 3:1

Candidate B: Riccardo Patrese
Offered Wage: 400K
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: n/a

Candidate C: Andrea de Cesaris
Offered Wage: 250K (pro rata)
Contract Length: 8 races
Other Clauses:
- Contract automatically extended by 8 races upon securing two points finishes
- '87 salary raised to 300K (pro rata) if race win achieved
- TL;DR - don't crash as much and he should probably get an extension

Candidate D: Teo Fabi
Offered Wage: 200K (pro rata)
Contract Length: 8 races
Other Clauses:
- Contract automatically extended by 8 races upon accumulating 3 points
- '87 salary raised to 250K (pro rata) if two podium finishes achieved
- '87 salary raised to 300K (pro rata) if race win achieved

(Never mind, forgot to check PMs : )
//Coloni driver bids//
First Driver:

Candidate A: Gabriele Tarquini
Contracted Wage: 250K
Contract Length: 16 Races
Other Clauses:
-contract may be shorted if the driver performs below expectations (i.e. don't crash the car too many times)

Candidate B: Kazuki Fushida (pi314159)
Contracted Wage: 200K
Contract Length: 16 Races
Other Clauses:
-contract may be shorted if the driver performs below expectations (i.e. don't crash the car too many times)

Candidate C: Enzo Coloni
Contracted Wage: 200K
Contract Length: 6 Races
Other Clauses:
-contract may be extended based on qualifying performance

Candidate D: Mohammed Siki (Salamander)
Contracted Wage: 200K
Contract Length: 10 Races
Other Clauses:
-contract may be shortened if the driver performs below expectations (i.e. don't crash the car too many times)

Second Driver (if allowed):
Candidate A: Valentino Nicchi (Salamander)
Contracte Wage: 250K
Contract Length: 8 Races
Other Clauses:
-contract may be extended if the driver performs well in qualifying

Candidate B: Arsenio Matarazzo (Nuppiz)
Contract Wage: +200K
Contract Length: 8 Races
Other Clauses:
--contract may be extended if qualifying performance satisfies the team manager

Candidate C: Nicola Larini
Contract Wage: +200K
Contract Length: 8 Races
Other Clauses:
-contract may be extended if qualifying performance satisfies the team manager

Brendon Cassidy will accept the offer from Williams.

---- First Driver ----
Driver Name: Jeremy-Etienne Voeckler
Offered Wage: DM 400,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: Rolling contract. 50k pay rise for each year he finishes 2nd or 3rd in the championship. 100k pay rise for winning the WDC.
Controlling User: Biscione

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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate A: Gerhard Berger
Offered Wage: DM 350,000
Contract Length: 48 races
Other Clauses: Be a fun guy. Score at least 50% of JEV's points each year. 50k pay raise for each year he finishes 2nd or 3rd in the championship. 100k pay rise for winning the WDC.

Candidate B: Alain Prost
Offered Wage: DM 400,000
Contract Length: 48 races
Other Clauses: 50k pay raise for each year he finishes 2nd or 3rd in the championship. 100k pay rise for winning the WDC.

Candidate C: Keke Rosberg
Offered Wage: DM 350,000
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses: Drive like he did in real life at Williams (I will provide examples if required). Score at least 50% of JEV's points each year. 50k pay raise for each year he finishes 2nd or 3rd in the championship. 100k pay rise for winning the WDC.

Candidate C: Stefan Johansson
Offered Wage: DM 300,000
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses: Score at least 50% of JEV's points each year. 50k pay raise for each year he finishes 2nd or 3rd in the championship. 100k pay rise for winning the WDC.

Candidate E: Michael Andretti
Offered Wage: DM 250,000
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: Score at least 50% of JEV's points at the halfway point of the season. Contains a 2-year option clause for a DM 350,000 contract with no additional clauses should the team be pleased with his results.

Leyton House March Driver Interest Sheet Stuff

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Rene Arnoux
Offered Wage: 280k DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: Extra 2k per points finish, 5k per podium

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Robert Kagan
Offered Wage: 222k DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: You know the drill...2k points, 5k podium
Controlling User:tommykl

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Kazuki Fushida
Offered Wage: 201k DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: Good old 2k per points, 5k per podium. Not that we expect much
Controlling User: pi314159
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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Ivan Capelli
Offered Wage: 269.5k DM
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses: Same old 2k per points, 5 per podium

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Mauricio Gugelmin
Offered Wage: 210k DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: 2k per points, 5k per podium

---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Tommy Byrne
Offered Wage: 200k
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: 2k per points finish,5k per podium, same old thing


To all users holding DECs of drivers I requested, please post permissions if possible,if not I'll just change my driver choices. Thanks in advance.

---- First Driver ----
Candidate: Guillaume Gauthier
Offered Wage: 400,000 DM
Contract Length: 32 races
Other Clauses: None
Controlling User: Salamander

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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate A: Derek Warwick
Offered Wage: 400,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: A contract extension into 1988 should he be able to match or beat his team mate over the season

Candidate B: Thierry Boutsen
Offered Wage: 350,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: A contract extension into 1988 should he be able to match or beat his team mate over the season

Candidate C: Martin Brundle
Offered Wage: 350,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: A bonus of 50,000 DM should he manage to finish on the podium more than twice this season

Candidate D: Stefan Johansson
Offered Wage: 300,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate E: Johnny Dumfries
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: We'll donate 50,000 DM to whichever political party he is a peer of if he manages to score 10 or more points this season.

Gauthier will accept the Lotus contract... as soon as he stops laughing after hearing he had an offer from Coloni.

At this time, Frederic-Maxime Voeckler, still just 19 years old, is focusing on honing his skills in French F3, and has no intention of joining Formula 1 for at least another year, possibly two or more.

Robert Kagan, 32 years old in 1987, is still around and looking for a drive. All offers will be considered.

Add me to waiting entry list as well

Osella Driver Choices

---- First Driver ----
Candidate A: Alex Caffi
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: 50K bonus for finishing in the points at least once

Candidate B: Andrea De Cesaris
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: 50K bonus for finishing in the points at least once

Candidate C: Piercarlo Ghinzani
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: 50K bonus for finishing in the points at least once

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---- Second Driver ----

Candidate A: Franco Forini
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate B: Frank Jelinski
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
Contract Length: 16 races
Other Clauses: N/A

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Also anyone looking for a driver Italian Lucio Ricchetti would be interested in any available seat

First Driver

Candidate A: Martin Brundle
Offered Wage: 250,000 DM
No. of races: 16
Other clauses: Will be offered another year with a better payout if he scores at least 5 points.

Candidate B: Andrea de Cesaris
Offered Wage: 275,000 DM (per season)
Contract Lenght: 16 races
Other Clauses: None

Candidate C: Alessandro Nannini
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM (per season)
Contract Lenght: 16 races
Other clauses: None

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SECOND SEAT

Candidate A: Jonathan Palmer
Offered Wage: 225,000 DM
No. of races: 16
Other clauses: Will be offered another year with a better payout if he scores at least 5 points.

Candidate B: Derek Warwick
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
No. of races: 16
Other clauses: Will be offered another year with a better payout if he scores at least 5 points.

Candidate C: Andy Wallace
Offered Wage: 200,000 DM
No. of races: 16
Other clauses: Will be offered another year with a better payout if he scores at least 5 points.

I'd like to join the waiting list for any teams that pop up for 1988

Senegalese driver Mohammed Siki would like to throw his hat into the ring for a Formula One drive. He has competed in Formula 3000 for 2 seasons now, winning a race in 1986. As an offspring of a wealthy trading family, he also can bring some minor sponsorship (not that it'll actually affect your budget, but let's not let that get in the way of some storyline)