Alternate F1 - The Current Era - 2017 Season

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Re: Alternate F1 - The Current Era - 2017 Season

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Peugeot (Aeroracing) - €201,000,000
Phoenix wrote:Team: Peugeot.
Engine: Peugeot.
Price: €140,000,000.
Chassis: B.
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I think you might want to invest in a calculator...
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Salamander wrote:
Peugeot (Aeroracing) - €201,000,000
Phoenix wrote:Team: Peugeot.
Engine: Peugeot.
Price: €140,000,000.
Chassis: B.
Brothels: High Class.


I think you might want to invest in a calculator...


I gave him a special permission to switch to the advancement condition.
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Engine: Judd
Engine Price: $110,000,000
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Williams have updated their engine price.
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Testing Vote

On the request of a number of teams, the FIA and FOM have decided to let the teams vote on the number of in-season tests for 2017. The following three suggestions are available for choice.
a) 0 Tests
b) 1 Test at Akrotiri Bay International Circuit (17 May)
c) 2 Tests at Akrotiri Bay International Circuit (17 May) and Sachsenring (4 July)

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Driver Market
With all the cars ready, we can now sign some drivers. For those of you who are still with this game from 2016, the system will not be unfamiliar to you. Basically you pick drivers and the gods of RNG decide in case of a real-life driver and the users decide for their fictional drivers.

Any F1 driver is entitled to a minimum wage of €1,000,000 per year. Furthermore, drivers who have not taken part in a F1 race yet may not earn more than €12,000,000 a year.

You may choose how long your driver contracts are (you can offer either years or a fixed number of races (please note that the 2017 season has 38 races)). To give you an idea how drivers think: most prefer the following order: long well-paid contracts > short well-paid contracts > short badly-paid contracts > long badly-paid contracts. Please write the offered wage for a full year though, even if the contract itself is shorter.

In addition, you may now add clauses of all types to the contract. Obviously, drivers won't like clauses that could potentially hurt them. Furthermore, clauses that make the wage of a driver fully or partially conditional are banned. The minimum wage applies to Friday testers as well.

You may exchange one chassis upgrade for a Friday tester.
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Signing a Friday tester will give your chassis a random grip increase of 50-150 points and allows you to replace your driver mid-weekend in case of injuries or bans.

Your team's budget must be >=0 after signing drivers and receiving the appropriate sponsorship money. FOM has unofficially informed the teams that they will pay out €2,000,000 to any team signing a F1RWRS driver that took part in races of the 2016 F1RWRS season.

Alright, please fill out this until Friday, January 30 (11:45 p.m. CET) and post it in this thread for real-life drivers - please only offer wages that are rounded up or down to a million, for any team that does not have a driver after the RNGs will be assigned a driver by me and trust me, that will not be pretty:

Code: Select all

---- First Driver ----
Candidate:
Offered Wage:
Contract Length:
Other Clauses:

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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate:
Offered Wage:
Contract Length:
Other Clauses:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

---- Friday Tester ----
Candidate:
Offered Wage:
Contract Length:
Other Clauses:


For fictional drivers, you just need to post this and get the user controlling the character to either post agreement in here or give it to me in the chatroom.

Code: Select all

Driver Name:
Offered Wage:
Contract Length:
Other Clauses:
Controlling User:
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Re: Testing Vote + Driver Market

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Klon wrote:
With all the cars ready, we can now sign some drivers. For those of you who are still with this game from 2016, the system will not be unfamiliar to you. Basically you pick drivers and the gods of RNG decide in case of a real-life driver and the users decide for their fictional drivers.



Erm, we are not quite ready, as we are awaiting response for an engine deal.

As for testing - Brabham is a poor team and thus votes for no tests.
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pycku wrote:
Klon wrote:
With all the cars ready, we can now sign some drivers. For those of you who are still with this game from 2016, the system will not be unfamiliar to you. Basically you pick drivers and the gods of RNG decide in case of a real-life driver and the users decide for their fictional drivers.



Erm, we are not quite ready, as we are awaiting response for an engine deal.


I told you in the PM that I will adjust the budgets if you agree with Ferrari on anything else but the average price, but for now we should continue. Time is money. :twisted:
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Precision Motorsport would like to purchase a Gamma upgrade before the first weekend of the season
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---- First Driver ----
Candidate 1: Robert Kubica
Offered Wage: 6m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Option with payrise of 1m if he scores any more than 200 points.

Candidate 2: Daniel Ricciardo
Offered Wage: 6m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Option with payrise of 1m if he scores any more than 200 points.

Candidate 3: Jenson Button
Offered Wage: 5m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: none

Candidate 4: Pierre Gasly
Offered Wage: 3m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: option for an extra year if his performances sufficiently impress.

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---- Friday Tester ----
Candidate: Johnny Cecotto, Jr.
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: none

Haas will vote for one in-season test.
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For the record, the current budgets already involve the money paid for drivers still under contract and the money recieved for sponsorship clauses fulfilled this way. Also, I would like to inform the team with the advancement condition that they won't recieve money after the driver signing so keep that in mind when making your offers.
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DGNgineering feels that young drivers should be given as much time as possible to get acclimitised to Formula 1 machinery, given the massive improvements in pace across the field over the past few years. Thus, we will vote for 2 in-season tests.

---- First Driver ----
Candidate 1: Kevin Magnussen
Offered Wage: 6 million
Contract Length: 2 years
Other Clauses: Fulfilling the option which was taken on him at the end of 2016.

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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate 1: Bradley Dagnall
Offered Wage: 1 million
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Please don't crash the car too much.
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Precision will also vote for two in-season tests
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Candidate A: Davide Velssichi
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate B: Vitantonio Liuzzi
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Same as Velssichi

Candidate C: Luca Fillipi
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length; 1 year
Other Clauses: Same as Velssichi

Candidate D: Antonio Fuoco
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 years
Other Clauses: Same as Velssichi



Driver 2:
Candidate A: Jenson Button
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Will be payed an extra 2m for renewal

Candidate B: Jean-Eric Vergne
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Same as Button.

Candidate C: Sergio Perez
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Same as Button.

Candidate D: Jaime Alguersuari
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length
Other Clauses: Same as Button.

TD:
Sole candidate: Scott Pye
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: None

We will also vote for 2 in-season tests.
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Calinetic bids of death:

Driver 1:
Candidate A: Max Verstappen
Offered Wage: 1million
Contract Length: 3 years
Other clauses: Consistenly beats his team-mate

Driver 2:
Candidate A: Jazeman Jaafar
Offered Wage: 1million
Contract Length: 1 year
Other clauses: Will get replaced by another driver if he doesn't perform decently

Candidate B: Hiqmar Danial
Offered Wage: 1million
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Same as Jaafar

Test Driver:
Candidate A: Dean Stoneman
Offered Wage: 1 million
Contract Length: 2 years
Other clauses: will drive in 8 selected race weekend across the year

Calinetic vote for 2 season tests.
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Sauber will vote for two in-season tests.


---First Driver---

Candidate A: Pastor Maldonado
Offered Wage: 4m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate B: Jenson Button
Offered Wage: 4m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate C: Dean Stoneman
Offered Wage: 3m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate D: Felipe Nasr
Offered Wage: 2m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Option for next season

---Second Driver---

Candidate A: Simon Pagenaud
Offered Wage: 4m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Option for next season should he impress

Candidate B: Jean-Eric Vergne
Offered Wage: 3m
Contact Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate C: Esteban Ocon
Offered Wage: 2m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Option for next season should he be matching the lead driver

Candidate D: Pierre Gasly
Offered Wage: 2m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Option for next season should he be matching the lead driver

Candidate E: Matthieu Vaxiviere
Offered Wage: 2m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate F: Arthur Pic
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Must learn how to drive in the wet

---Test Driver---

Candidate A: Matthieu Vaxiviere
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Option for a race seat in 2018

Candidate B: Alex Lynn
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate C: Nico Hulkenberg
Offered Wage: 1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A
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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate A: Romain Grosjean
Offered Wage: 6.75m
Contract Length: 2 years
Other Clauses: Option for another year if his performance is good enough

Candidate B: Jenson Button
Offered Wage: 5m
Contract Length: 1 years
Other Clauses: Option for next year

Candidate C: Pierre Gasly
Offered Wage: 3.5m
Contract Length: 2 years
Other Clauses: Option for another year if his performance is good enough

Candidate C: Nico Hulkenberg
Offered Wage: 4m
Contract Length: 1 years
Other Clauses: Option for next year

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---- Friday Tester ----
Candidate: Bruno Senna
Offered Wage: 2m
Contract Length: 2 years
Other Clauses: Drive at selected races, guaranteed drive in Brazil.
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Ferrari vote for two in-season tests.

---First Driver---
Sebastien Bourdais is already under contract.

---Second Driver---
Candidate 1: Einar Ármannsson
Offered Wage: 1 million
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: None
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Peugeot's first driver is already decided: Romain Grosjean, who has a valid contract for this season.

As for the second driver, we'd like to keep Jérome d'Ambrosio for this season (1-year contract) with a wage of €2.000.000 and no additional clauses.

Also, we'll vote for two in-season test sessions.
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Mahindra driver bids:

---- First Driver ----
Candidate 1: Robert Kubica
Offered Wage: $8m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: None

Candidate 2: Daniel Ricciardo
Offered Wage: $8m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: None

Candidate: Jean-Eric Vergne
Offered Wage: $4m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: None

Candidate: Jenson Button
Offered Wage: $6m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: None

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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Conor Daly
Offered Wage: $2m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: None

Mahindra will also vote for 1 test day.
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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Daniil Kvyat
Offered Wage: $2,000,000
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate: Vitaly Petrov
Offered Wage: $1,000,000
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Candidate: Evgeny Restov
Offered Wage: $1,000,000
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: N/A

Caterham will vote for two in-season tests.
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Phoenix wrote:As for the second driver, we'd like to keep Jérome d'Ambrosio for this season (1-year contract) with a wage of €2.000.000 and no additional clauses.


No can do, I am afraid. Since you won't get any sponsorship money after the driver market (you picked the advancement clause), you must hire one of your draftees at minimum wage. Luiz Razia is your only choice, I am afraid.
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Red Bull vote for 2 in season tests.
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---- Second Driver ----
Candidate: Nick de Vries
Offered Wage: $1,000,000
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Can be swapped if results are below of his teammates


Candidate: Emil Sawan-Montag
Offered Wage: $1,000,000
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: Can be swapped if results are below of his teammates
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Driver 1

Candidate 1: Daniel Ricciardo
Offered Wage: $2m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: 5m bonus for WCC, 8m bonus for WDC

Candidate 2: Will Power
Offered Wage: $2m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: 3m bonus for WCC, 5m bonus for WDC

Candidate 3: Ryan Briscoe
Offered Wage: $1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: 2m bonus for WCC, 5m bonus for WDC

Candidate 4: Chaz Mostert
Offered Wage: $1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: 1m bonus for WCC, 1m bonus for WDC

Candidate 5: Anton de pasquale
Offered Wage: $1m
Contract Length: 1 year
Other Clauses: 1m bonus for WCC, 1m bonus for WDC

Driver 2

Candidate 1: Dave Cassidy
Offered Wage: $1m
Contract Length: 2 year
Other Clauses: 2m bonus for WCC, 5m bonus for WDC
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Oh yes test option b
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Bruno Senna
1-35: Red Bull
36-100: ACO Le Mans Cup
Result: 55

Daniel Ricciardo
1-70: Williams
71-99: Mahindra
100: V8 Supercars
Result: 95

Daniil Kwjat
1-99: Caterham
100: WTCC
Result: 15

Davide Valsecchi
1-90: Valerian
91-100: Blancpain Sprint Series
Result: 87

Dean Stoneman
1-99: Calinetic
100: Porsche Carerra Cup
Result: 39

Jazeman Jaafar
1-99: Calinetic
100: Super Formula
Result: 9

Jean-Éric Vergne
1-70: Valerian
71-100: Formula E
Result: 94

Jenson Button
1-15: Valerian
16-40: Red Bull
41-100: Retirement
Result: 83

Johnny Cecotto, Jr.
1-95: Haas
96-100: AR IWC
Result: 89

Matthieu Vaxivière
1-99: Sauber
100: Super Formula
Result: 2

Pastor Maldonado
1-99: Sauber
100: AR IWC
Result: 93

Pierre Gasly
1-99: Red Bull
100: GP2
Result: 3

Robert Kubica
1-65: Haas
66-80: Mahindra
81-100: WRC
Result: 21

Scott Pye
1-99: Valerian
100: V8 Supercars
Result: 3

Sergio Pérez
1-99: Valerian
100: IWC
Result: 34

Simon Pagenaud
1-95: Sauber
96-100: Tudor United Sports Car Series
Result: 66

Will Power
1-80: Williams
81-100: AR IWC
Result: 14
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Autosport wrote:Frank Williams blasts "money grabbing" driver managers

After Daniel Ricciardo signed for underdogs Mahrinda for a record 8m euros, Frank Williams was quick to lay into Daniel Ricciardos manager for giving his driver bad advice.

"I am disappointed that Daniel Riccardo did not sign for Williams. We gave him an offer which if he let his racing do the talking would have netted him up to 15m euros. Instead he is going to waste the year, and no disrespect to Mahrinda, driving around the back of the field getting the odd point here and there. It's not the first time drivers have signed for poor performing teams, James James Davies basically hindered Brabham as they spent too much on his wages and not enough on car developement and Nico Rosberg rather then signing a contract that probably would have netted him the WDC decided to go to the poor performing team and has wasted his career. We wish Daniel all the best and hope he doesn't regret his signing, we don't blame him but his money grabbing [censored] of a manager is not on our christmas card list."

It could be argued that Frank Williams is known to pay poor wages but no one can argue that his bonuses mean that drivers can easily earn more then double the top paid drivers. As of press, neither Daniel Riccardo or his manager returned our calls for a comment.

Williams sign 2014 Indycar champion Will Power

A day after, Frank Williams was in front of the cameras again with Dave Cassidy and his new signing Will Power. Frank beaming from ear to ear said, "We are pleased to sign Will Power, he was ignored for too long by F1 and we believe with Dave will win us our forth WCC.", Will added "I was not interested in F1, however when a top team like Williams come knocking at your door you listen to what they say and I am pleased that I will be able to show my skills in F1."

At 36, some say that Power has probably missed the boat, however Damon Hill also won his championship at 36, so Power may surprise. However sources close to Williams have said if Power fails to ouotperform Cassidy bny mid season he may end up being replaced with Anton de pasquale.
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Here comes cranky me again:

The 2014 IndyCar season wasn't finished in our world as it collapsed in August with Ashley Cassidy being the leader.
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HawkAussie wrote:Here comes cranky me again:

The 2014 IndyCar season wasn't finished in our world as it collapsed in August with Ashley Cassidy being the leader.


Yeah, that's not the case anymore. IndyCar is the same as real-life up until 2014, except without the split.
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Klon wrote:
Phoenix wrote:As for the second driver, we'd like to keep Jérome d'Ambrosio for this season (1-year contract) with a wage of €2.000.000 and no additional clauses.


No can do, I am afraid. Since you won't get any sponsorship money after the driver market (you picked the advancement clause), you must hire one of your draftees at minimum wage. Luiz Razia is your only choice, I am afraid.


I didn't take that in mind. So be it, then.
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Re: Alternate F1 - The Current Era - 2017 Season

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RejectSport wrote:REJECTSPORT EXCLUSIVE: F1 2017 season preview by James James Davies!

Well, having been a Formula 1 driver as recently as two seasons ago, I can provide a unique, and unparalleled insight into the sport. So let's not waste any time and get straight to business!

Williams
Frank Williams is a liar and a cheat, and that is all I will say about him personally. However, I have to admit he's put together a great race team for the past few seasons, but from what I've gathered, 2017 will be the toughest challenge for the reborn team. The team remains as hostile to good drivers as ever, which is why Lewis Hamilton left - a 1 million euro contract for a World Champion is a goddamn insult, which explains why Dave Cassidy remains with them. Alongside Cassidy and replacing Hamilton, following Daniel Ricciardo's snub, will be former IndyCar champ Will Power - and after a career spent Stateside, don't expect anything special from the Australian. I can attest that those cars and modern F1 cars are a world apart. The car itself seems to not be quite as quick as their immediate rivals, however, the powerful Peugeots should vault the team into championship contention, but they are no longer the favourites here.

The bottom line:
You can't count Williams out as title contenders, but I just can't see them winning either title this year. They've got a bit too much ground to make up.
WCC prediction: 3rd

Caterham
It's hard to say anything about the management of Caterham - being tied up in the byzantine mess that is the Commonwealth Group, I dunno who to credit with their rise to power. Whoever it is, though - great job! Their rise to fame has been incredible, and their driver management has been great as well. They have finally seemed to get the potential out of Sebastian Vettel that everyone knew was there, as well as uncovering a real diamond in Daniil Kvyat. That topped with a solid chassis and the gutsy-yet-reliable Judd engine means they're the team I expect most to walk away with both titles. Kvyat may already be a match for Vettel 9 times out of 10, but the German's experience and sheer talent will shine through and I expect this year we will finally see Vettel's first World Championship.

The bottom line:
The most stable top team and best driver/chassis/engine combination means this year should see Caterham on top by years end.
WCC prediction: 1st

Precision
I gotta hand it to Jeroen Krautmeir: not even I'm crazy enough to take over an entire team to try and win a championship. It's sure worked wonders fast, though. He's quickly found the potential in the engineering and aerodynamics departments that lured me to the team for that disastrous 2011 season, and he's got a solid driver lineup in Bianchi and Bottas. However, 'solid' does not always mean 'World Champion', and I just don't see World Championships in either of them. That plus the laughable Mercedes lump of garbage that they call an engine means Precision will be the latter of the top 4 teams fighting for title glory. The car and drivers will be good enough to give their rivals a good scare every now and then, though.

The bottom line:
They might look threatening for a while, but they'll fizzle out sooner or later.
WCC prediction: 4th

Red Bull
Fernando, what the hell were you thinking when you signed for this pack of jokers? Alonso is just about the only thing this team has going for them. Oh sure, Pierre Gasly is very talented, but he's going into the same hell Alex Lynn has been in for the past 3 or 4 years - driving against a much more immensely experienced driver is never a good situation for a rookie. And what makes it worse is that the car looks like a dog and the team's paying through the nose for Ferrari power, who are quite a bit behind their Judd V10 rivals. This is going to be a long season for all of them. A year after battling for best of the rest - and in fact winning the midfield battle - Red Bull looks in dire shape, fighting with the likes of Calinetic most likely.

The bottom line:
Any team members who are reading: Start applying for jobs elsewhere. This team is going down the drain fast. Unless you enjoy duking it out with Calinetic and DGNgineering.
WCC prediction: 10th

Sauber
The heady days of Pastor Maldonado's outside championship chance and WCC's are over, but Sauber are still a very potent team. After a sabbatical, Maldonado is back with the team where he made his name, and none the worse for wear. Alongside him is another newcomer from the American scene, France's Simon Pagenaud. Pagenaud has been quiet but respectable in his results, but I don't expect anything more than a solid number 2 performance from him. The car looks good and the Judd power will see them in a battle with Haas for the best of the rest.

The bottom line:
Solid but unspectacular, Sauber will continue to plod around in the midfield. Maldonado might pick up a stray win, but more is unlikely with now 4 teams clearly ahead of Sauber.
WCC prediction: 6th

Haas
I gotta respect what Gene Haas has done here - in almost no time at all he's put together a solid midfielding team, with a lot of potential to move forward in the coming years. On the driving front, Stoffel Vandoorne is coming off the back of a superb debut season with 2 unlikely victories, and will want to continue that form into next season. Robert Kubica comes off the back of a disastrous season with DGNgineering, but one in which he put one over on Daniel Ricciardo and restored his reputation somewhat. Both will do a good job for the team, and with a good car, this is the team that I think is most likely to give the top 4 the most headaches.

The bottom line:
Another building year, but the potential is there and it will pay off in time. They may not win as many races as 2016, but they will look a more well-rounded team nonetheless.
WDC prediction: 5th

Ferrari
After struggling to find anyone capable of doing what I did with the Scuderia, Ferrari seem to have finally got themselves back in title contention where they belong. Arguably the strongest car out of anyone, the sticking point on the mechanical front remains their engine which cannot live with the more powerful Judds and Peugeots. On the driver front as well are two big question marks - Sebastien Bourdais was immense 5 years ago, but he seems to be tailing off with age, whereas Einar Ármannsson drove for the abysmal Mansell "team", so who knows how good he actually is. However, I do still have a few contacts within Maranello, and I can say that the team is looking to pry Nathan McKane from that crappy F1 knock-off series and get him back where he belongs, at the pinnacle of motorsport. If they get him soon enough, he might even be a dark horse for the title.

The bottom line:
They can't afford to hang about - great cars don't fall off trees, Bourdais isn't the driver to get them a title, and they can't risk relying on Ármannsson. They need McKane and fast - he's about the only driver in the world besides yours truly who can win a title starting mid-season.
WCC prediction: 2nd (assuming they land McKane)

DGNgineering
I have no idea what to say here. As McLaren-in-name-only they instantly took the fight to Williams and delivered to the world a new superstar in the form of Daniel Ricciardo in 2015. We looked set to have DGNgineering prove that their success in F1RWRS was not down to awful competition, only for them to spend 2016 wasting everyone's time with the biggest joke of a chassis I've seen in a long time. They seem to want to one-up themselves - the 2017 car looks practically medieval compared to its competitors, and they've had to resort to hiring Bradley Dagnall, presumably because nobody else wants to be caught dead in that thing. Spare a thought for poor Kevin Magnussen this year, though, he joined the team right as they looked the team to be a part of, and now seems firmly rooted to the back of the grid for the next 2 years.

The bottom line:
Battling a dying Red Bull and a near-dead Calinetic 2 years after winning the WDC and almost the WCC, and it doesn't look like getting better soon.
WCC prediction: 11th

Peugeot
The Peugeot execs seemingly got tired of being stuck in the midfield forever more, so they went to their team administration, gave them a large sack of money, and told them to be relevant for once or they've had it. Judging from the car, they might as well have shut it down there and then. Relative to their competitors, it looks no better than its predecessors. Romain Grosjean continues to be wasted on a team that will never allow him to realise his potential, and they dragged Luiz Razia out of nowhere for god knows what reason. More interesting is what will happen to Peugeot's involvement on the powerplant side of things should they close the team down for good - will they stick with Williams and make them their factory team, or get out while the getting's good?

The bottom line:
Stuck in the lower midfield. Again.
WCC prediction: 8th

Calinetic
Calinetic's existence the last few years has been very fraught. Struggling season-to-season to even exist anywhere, and it seems that 2017 will be no different for Joseph Calinetic's plucky battlers. The sad truth for them is while they may have done a fantastic job with the chassis on their budget, it's no substitute for actually having a budget - for which Mr. Calinetic must be ruing the day he ever signed that Mercedes contract. The team has had no alternative but to sign out the second seat to Jazeman Jaafar for his Petronas monies, becoming only the second Malaysian F1 driver in history in the process. The real excitement though, comes from the guy in the other seat - Max Verstappen. A more clear superstar in the making there has never been in junior formulae - so anticipated was his arrival that Formula 1 as a precautionary measure introduced an age limit. If Calinetic exist in 2018, it will most likely be down to him. So, no pressure.

The bottom line:
It's all or nothing if Calinetic are going to have a long-term future in F1, so the team had better hope that Verstappen has the goods. A hell of a lot of pressure for a rookie, but some can thrive in that situation.
WCC prediction: 12th

Brabham
Can you actually believe I won a title for this team not 3 years ago!? How times change - but then, we already have DGNgineering to remind us of that. Brabham's fall from grace is already yesterday's news, and it is a sign of how desperate the team is that they had to beg the FIA for special dispensation to get a fifth Ferrari engine contract simply because they could not afford the Mercedes. A lot of fans will have sympathy for Nico Rosberg who finally grew a pair and walked out on Williams, only to walk into a team infinitely more troubled. Spare a thought for poor Nyck de Vries though - he has some talent, and it's going to go completely unnoticed as he grapples with hands-down the worst car on the grid, an underpowered engine, and a teammate who desperately wishes he could turn back time and re-sign for Williams.

The bottom line:
Calinetic have a chance of making it through to next year, but Brabham's return to Formula 1 I think is at an end. There's nothing Rosberg can do to drag that car off the bottom of the Constructors' table.
WCC prediction: 13th

Mahindra
Mahindra are an interesting case. They burst on to the F1 scene 3 years ago with a solid car, good drivers, and the potential to climb the WCC... but instead have slipped down to last. You'd expect it to go the other way around. Regardless, the potential might still be there somehow - an unknown Australian consortium purchased the team late last year, and they pulled off probably the 2nd biggest coup in F1 history (topped only by myself, of course), by hiring Daniel Ricciardo from under Williams' nose to lead the team for this season. Nothing needs to be said about the skills of the man who won a title in his debut season, but alongside him is Conor Daly, and he looks about as average as it gets, really. The money from this consortium has funded a competitive car, and it seems Mahindra might be getting back to where they started after a couple years in the wilderness. Whether the team will remain Mahindra in the future is uncertain, but it seems the new management is currently unconcerned with the identity of the team at present.

The bottom line:
I cannot understate how big a coup Ricciardo is for Mahindra. The team should probably be scrapping with Red Bull on pace, but I believe he will be able to drag them forwards to trouble the Peugeots - and probably beat them.
WCC prediction: 7th

Valerian
Last, but not least, are F1's new boys. Valerian are relative unknowns on the world stage, but from all appearances, they seem to have a solid base from which to build from the future. A decent enough car and Ferrari engines will be enough to see them ahead of the backmarkers on sheer pace, and Perez's talent will at least be enough for them to fulfill that. Valsecchi may be a former GP winner, but do not be fooled - the Force India he drove was far better than it gets credit for. Still, he should be able to pick up the odd result here and there. The team should focus on establishing themselves in the midfield fight alongside Mahindra and Peugeot, and take care not to fall by the wayside as Mahindra can already attest.

The bottom line:
A good starting position, this season will be important for them to gain experience. Valsecchi and Perez's experience is a few years out of date, but will be enough to help them build for now.
WCC prediction: 9th

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Re: Alternate F1 - The Current Era - 2017 Season

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Well it is not Brabham's fault that the RNG hates us and gave us lowest possible grip for the certain chassis type in past few seasons. This led to our downfall and it is a whole miracle we have survived for another season. We will do anything possible to survive this year, too and fresh money from rookie drivers is well appreciated. Besides, we are one of the few teams to give young drivers a chance, which is not to be underestimated.
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pycku wrote:Well it is not Brabham's fault that the RNG hates us and gave us lowest possible grip for the certain chassis type in past few seasons. This led to our downfall and it is a whole miracle we have survived for another season. We will do anything possible to survive this year, too and fresh money from rookie drivers is well appreciated. Besides, we are one of the few teams to give young drivers a chance, which is not to be underestimated.


Don't take it personal man, he had a go DGNgineering as well, and we'd still be on top if we didn't have the worst possible A chassis last year. :P
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Autosport unofficial season preview.

Autosport sneaked in and saw the teams in testing action in Jerez and from the hard data we saw, we present our seaon preview of the 2017 F1 season.

So without any delay....

Williams Peugeot

Out : Lewis Hamilton, Takumo Sato (Friday Tester)
In : Will Power, Shinobu Katayama (Friday Tester)

Williams dominated the first half of the season, winning on average a race every circuit. However their form did take a hit once other teams like Caterham and Precision did start upgrades. However Lewis Hamilton did manage to hold on and win the WDC and some great drives from the talented Dave Cassidy secured them the WCC. Lewis Hamilton has been let go after his wage demands were balked by Williams and he found himself out of a drive because of these wage demands. They looked to Daniel Riccardo but failed to secure his services and ended up signing 2014 indycar champion Will Power. Dave Cassidy on the other hand was given a two year contract. Race winner Shinobu Katayama comes back from F1RWRS to become friday tester.

Williams keep the Peugeot engine which is still the fastest engine on the block and they have spent big to make it one of the most reliable engines too. However Williams had less money to spend then last season due changes in prize money and although they still have a decent car they lack money to upgrade it fully. It also remains to be seen if Will Power still has the fight and can transfer from Indycars to F1, if he can then Williams will be fighting for the WCC and if not then they could slip down the table.

What we prediced - WCC
What they got - WCC
What we predict - 2nd
Battle of the Team Mates - Cassidy

Caterham Judd


Out - Raffaele Marciello
In - None

Caterham did have a resurgent second half of the season with Vettel finding winning ways again, but the stream of retirements by Vettel at the start of the season and other poor results did cost them any chance of overhauling Williams. This season they have kept everything the same, although they have released Raffaele Marciello as a friday tester.

With the company owning Caterham also owning Judd and with Judd making the second best engine after Peugeot, they managed to persuade a number of teams to purchase the Judd which means they can use the loophole to increase their developement budget. With a great looking chassis and the ability to afford a decent set of decent upgrades, the WCC should be a formality but the WDC is going to to Vettels or Kwjats to loose.

What we prediced - 2nd
What they got - 2nd
What we predict - WCC
Battle of the Team Mates - Vettel

Precision Mercedes

Out : None
In : None

We will put our hands up and say we were wrong about Precision. The chassis was good and the drivers helped the team run Caterham close in the WCC despite the underpowered engine. Bottas and Bianchi did a great job with both scoring wins and racing the car to the points they needed, staying close to Caterham and Williams when they needed to be. Although Bianchi managed to get good points, Bottas tended to be either completely on it or struggling for minor points.

They have had no changes this season with Bianchi and Bottas being kept over again and although the chassis is better the Engine is still weaker then both the Judd and Peugeot used by the Caterham and Williams and this again will cost them wins and we feel instead of battling for second in the championship they might be battling hard for third.

What we prediced - 9th
What they got - 3rd
What we predict - 3rd
Battle of the Team Mates - Bianchi

Red Bull Ferrari

Out : Alex Lynn, Bruno Senna, Dan Cammish
In : Pierre Gasly

It could be said that last years Red Bull was a horrible car to drive, and it had to take a driver with the talent of Alonso to really bring out the good points of the car. Alonso score points, podiums and even had some fantastic races in which he won on merit, twice! The second drivers did struggle and Red Bull kept changing the drivers with Lynn . did race well, getting points when they mattered and even scored two welll desereved wins but the car and team did let him down, as he also picked up the only DNQ of the season. The second drivers struggled, Lynn struggle early on and was replaced by Senna who came out with a great 4th but struggled before being replaced by Lynn again, who raced the rest of the season before Senna and Cammish got some races but did not do anything spectacular.

The car this year is an update of last years car and it looks ugly and ugly cars tend to be be slow. Alonso stays on with talented Pierre Gasly coming on board, but it will be a struggle for the team to score podiums let alone wins this year.

What we prediced - 3rd
What they got - 4th
What we predict - 9th
Battle of the Team Mates - Alonso

Sauber Judd

Out : Alexandre-Laurent Voeckler, Felipe Nasr (Friday Tester)
In : Simon Pagenaud, Matthieu Vaxiviere (Friday Tester)

Sauber started off well by winning the first race with Pastor Maldonado but it was just a flash in the pan as he managed only 5 more podiums. Alexandre-Laurent Voeckler wasted most of the season and got a single podium but generally was struggling for points, he was replaced by Arthur Pic for the last two races and he strugglied with the car. The car did look fast in places but it did struggle.

Simon Pagenaud replaces the underperforming Voeckler, but the Sauber doesnt look that fast and it should get the odd podium however another win looks unlikely and a lower team position is likley with other teams looking stronger.

What we prediced - 5th
What they got - 5th
What we predict - 7th
Battle of the Team Mates - Maldonado

Haas Ferrari

Out - André Lotterer
In - Robert Kubica

Haas looked like they would be the best of the new teams and they did not disappoint, in the third race when the top teams struggles, Vandoorne kept the Precision and Ferraris at bay to take a win, and although most of the season they kept grabbing points, they also managed to grab a deserved win in Abu Dhabi beating the top teams. Two other podiums was a little disappointing but the two team mates were quite close.

Lotterer has retired but they have signed Robert Kubica from the underperfoming DGN team, the car looks more an evolution of last years car so they should do well and both drivers should help the team score more points but even in a close competiiton they may not increase in position.

What we prediced - 6th
What they got - 6th
What we predict - 6th
Battle of the Team Mates - Vandoorne

Ferrari

Out : Luca Filippi, Pedro de la Rosa (Friday Tester)
In : Einar Ármannsson

Ferrari struggled with a mediocre chassis and a poor engine, however Bourdais did elevate the team as they grabbed 3 podiums in the first six races, however once teams had got their cars together they only managed a single podium the rest of the season, however he still grabbed a lot of points. Luca Filippi on the other hand was quite the dead beat team mate as he managed 6 points scoring races the whole season.

A new team was brouigh in and they have made one of the most beautiful cars in the paddock, definately an revolution. However the engine is still the slowest in the paddock, however Red Bull showed they could win races with it. Although Sebastian is a solid driver and should grab them podiums and Einar needs to prove himself, Ferrari could end up near the top of the table.

What we prediced - 8th
What they got - 7th
What we predict - 4th
Battle of the Team Mates - Bourdais

DGN Judd

Out : Robert Kubica, Daniel Ricciardo
In : Bradley Dagnall

Oh dear, DGN had a horrible year. The chassis was extremely poor as it struggled everywhere and a single podium was all they had to show for their work. DGN did not have as many updates as other teams so they remained slow grabbing the odd points here and there. Kubica and Ricciardo looked frustrated but had fat pay chequws coming in so put up with it.

DGN rather then do a completely new chassis have just updated the old chassis so they are going to be scraping around the back hoping for the odd point, Chris Dagnall nepotism has promoted his younger son to the team, who to be fair has not done thtat great in the junior formulas and Kevin Magnusson has been promoted. DGN say they are working on the 2018 car and want treat the 2017 as a big test, although insiders just think that DGN are saving money and may end up selling the team.

What we prediced - 4th
What they got - 8th
What we predict - 12th
Battle of the Team Mates - Magnusson

Peugeot

Out : Jérôme d'Ambrosio
In : Luiz Razia

Peugeot are probably happy that Williams are helping develop the engine as this season was one to forget, d'Ambrosio did win a race with Grosjean second in the only glimmer of joy in the season but the rest of the season was mainly minor points and struggling with the minnows.

Peugeot are frustrated and it is rumoured that they may end up as an engine only team with Williams becoming the works team but the F1 team have been given one more chance. The new chassis looks better then last years and they should get some wins from it. Despite the win d'Ambrosio was disappointing and was let go and replaced with Luiz Razia, although not flashy should help the team grab points. Grosjean should grab a few wins if he works hard.

What we prediced - 7th
What they got - 9th
What we predict - 5th
Battle of the Team Mates - Grosjean

Calinetic Mercedes

Out : Evgeny Restov, Giorgio Pantano
In : Jazeman Jaafar, Max Verstappen

Calinetic were in the bottom group of four and never really looked like getting out of there, Restov did get a pit assisted podium but points were few and far between and the CAL4 chassis looked creaky and old. However they managed to finish higher then we thought they would.

A new chassis has been shown but it looks weak and uglier then the CAL4, the grand daddies of the pitlane Restov and Pantano have retired and replaced with Max Verstappen who is likely to get most of the points for the team even if they are minor ones, plus Malayasian sponsor forced Jazeman Jaafar, who we had to look up and think will end up pointless all season. They are going to struggle for points again and they will stay in the bottom four battle.

What we prediced - 13th
What they got - 10th
What we predict - 11th
Battle of the Team Mates - Verstappen

Brabham Ferrari

Out : Judd, Robin Frijns
In : Ferrari, Nyck de Vries

Brabham are still suffering from paying top line drivers big bucks to drive for them, first they gave James James Davies his pension and Rosberg looks to have done the same. To be fair Rosberg looked more like a race driver last year then JJD did the previos year and managed to get a podium on merit and he scored all but 2 points of all the points Brabham got. Last years car was awful and this year car does look worse, especially as they also had to drop Judd in return for the cheaper Ferrari and then they had to ask the FOM to broker a deal.

Frijns looked out of his depth and is being replaced by another dutchman for sponsorship with Vries and we think he is going to look out of his depth too. Brabham are going to struggle and not even the talent of Rosberg is going to save them. Will they be here next year? Who knows, but it will be a shame if they aren't, being killed by stupid management bending over to driver managers wage demands.

What we prediced - 10th
What they got - 11th
What we predict - 13th
Battle of the Team Mates - Rosberg

Mahrinda Mercedes

Out : Karun Chandhok, Nico Müller, Jean-Éric Vergne
In : Daniel Ricciardo, Conor Daly

Mahrinda will be hard pushed that Mansell did not lose points and got a race ban instead, so they ended up last rather then 12th. They only managed 3 points finishes and look worse then any other point in their short life. Karun Chandhok did bring money but his talent was lacking, a 12th was the best he got and was the worse driver of them all. Muller got a 6th but look out of his depth most of the season and super sub Vergne managed two points scoring posiitons.

However they are under new management after an Australian company purchased them and things do look up, with a new engine company known to be coming nexst season. All the drivers were given the boot and Mahrinda managed to persuade Daniel Riccardo to join the team after offering a large stack of cash, it is likely that Ricciardo looked long term as the car doesn't look great and they are still powered by the underpowered Mercedes engine, however he should grab some healthy points for the team. Conor Daly is the number two driver and he has not had a stellar junior career but should spring the odd surprise.

What we prediced - 12th
What they got - 13th
What we predict - 8th
Battle of the Team Mates - Ricciardo

Valerian Ferrari

In : Davide Valsecchi, Sergio Perez, Scott Pye (Friday tester)

Valerian replace Mansell who ended up a one year wonder. Mansell struggled all season getting a few minor points and overspent causing Nigel Mansell to launch a lawsuit at the management team.

The French team do not look like they are going to set the world on fire but with a reasonable chassis and careful spending of money should get some decent points especially with Perez who returns to F1 wtih a suitcase of money and better talent then some of the other teams.

What we predict -10th
Battle of the Team Mates - Perez
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2017 Budweiser United States Grand Prix I - Qualifying

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2017 Budweiser United States Grand Prix I - Qualifying

1. Daniil Kwjat / Caterham-Judd - 1:07.945
2. Dave Cassidy / Williams-Peugeot - 1:07.960
3. Sebastian Vettel / Caterham-Judd - 1:08.238
4. Jules Bianchi / Precision-Mercedes - 1:08.456
5. Simon Pagenaud / Sauber-Judd - 1:08.596
6. Stoffel Vandoorne / Haas-Ferrari - 1:08.736
7. Valtteri Bottas / Precision-Mercedes - 1:08.778
8. Sebastién Bourdais / Ferrari - 1:08.831
9. Will Power / Williams-Peugeot - 1:08.893
10. Robert Kubica / Haas-Ferrari - 1:08.999
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11. Kevin Magnussen / DGN-Judd - 1:08.931
12. Fernando Alonso / Red Bull-Ferrari - 1:09.089
13. Einar Ármannsson / Ferrari - 1:09.179
14. Pastor Maldonado / Sauber-Judd - 1:09.209
15. Daniel Ricciardo / Mahindra-Mercedes - 1:09.218
16. Luiz Razia / Peugeot - 1:09.257
17. Sergio Pérez / Valerian-Ferrari - 1:09.374
18. Romain Grosjean / Peugeot - 1:08.458
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19. Davide Valsecchi / Valerian-Ferrari - 1:09.800
20. Pierre Gasly / Red Bull-Ferrari - 1:08.103
21. Bradley Dagnall / DGN-Judd - 1:08.143
22. Max Verstappen / Calinetic-Mercedes - 1:09.062
23. Nico Rosberg / Brabham-Judd - 1:09.246
24. Conor Daly / Mahindra-Mercedes - 1:09.209
25. Jazeman Jaafar / Calinetic-Mercedes - 1:08.705
26. Nyck de Vries / Brabham-Judd - 1:09.461
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2017 Budweiser United States Grand Prix I - Race

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2017 Budweiser United States Grand Prix I - Race
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Penalty Points after the race:
#91 - Jazeman Jaafar - 3 (+3 for causing an avoidable accident involving the drivers of car #90 (Max Verstappen))
#98 - Bradley Dagnall - 10 (+10 for causing avoidable accidents involving the drivers of car #21 (Stoffel Vandoorne) and car #28 (Einar Ármannson))

-- Positives --
Dave Cassidy - won and made Americans proud, a true hero of the American people.

Caterham-Judd - they haven't lost their plot in 2017, even if they lost on strategy.

Sebastién Bourdais - is he the hero that will save Ferrari from despair?

Red Bull-Ferrari - took nine points and the INFINITE IMPROBABILITY DRIVE OF THE RACE even after struggling in testing.

Simon Pagenaud - the star that shines brightest is all the more glorious for its brevity.

-- Negatives --
Pastor Maldonado - got points, but his driving was quite undashing.

Sergio Pérez - involved in an incident with Fernando Alonso, his race was ruined quickly.

Einar Ármannson - was Ferrari signing him a major mistake?

Bradley Dagnall - debuted like a total jackass, he earns a €35,000 fine and REJECT OF THE RACE.

Jazeman Jaafar - taking out your teammate does not leave a good first impression in F1.
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Re: Alternate F1 - The Current Era - 2017 Season

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Dave Cassidy wrote:Man, is it great to finally win at home! Wasn't the easiest race for me, especially that first stint where I was stuck behind Valterri while Daniil was just running away with it, but eventually he broke down, and I was able to take the fight properly to Daniil. The second stint was absolutely key for us, our pace there, combined with the brilliant pitwork, allowed me to jump him at the second stops and from there I wasn't in too much threat from behind. We were all a bit nervous before this race though, we had no idea how we'd stack up against the Caterham's, but at least we know we can fight them now. The important thing now is to do absolutely everything we can with the car, because I don't expect every race to go nearly this well for us, and we know that Caterham's budget advantage is going to mean some pretty nasty upgrades in the pipeline for them as well. But hey, I finally won at home, and that's the important thing today!
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2017 Budweiser United States Grand Prix II - Qualifying

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2017 Budweiser United States Grand Prix II - Qualifying

1. Sebastién Bourdais / Ferrari - 1:07.908
2. Dave Cassidy / Williams-Peugeot - 1:07.981
3. Valtteri Bottas / Precision-Mercedes - 1:08.021
4. Sebastian Vettel / Caterham-Judd - 1:08.058
5. Will Power / Williams-Peugeot - 1:08.105
6. Jules Bianchi / Precision-Mercedes - 1:08.150
7. Daniil Kwjat / Caterham-Judd - 1:08.331
8. Pastor Maldonado / Sauber-Judd - 1:08.380
9. Luiz Razia / Peugeot - 1:08.383
10. Pierre Gasly / Red Bull-Ferrari - 1:08.521
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11. Fernando Alonso / Red Bull-Ferrari - 1:08.555
12. Einar Ármannsson / Ferrari - 1:09.574
13. Stoffel Vandoorne / Haas-Ferrari - 1:08.612
14. Sergio Pérez / Valerian-Ferrari - 1:08.621
15. Robert Kubica / Haas-Ferrari - 1:08.622
16. Romain Grosjean / Peugeot - 1:08.755
17. Daniel Ricciardo / Mahindra-Mercedes - 1:08.856
18. Davide Valsecchi / Valerian-Ferrari - 1:09.277
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19. Max Verstappen / Calinetic-Mercedes - 1:09.284
20. Simon Pagenaud / Sauber-Judd - 1:08.489 (ten-place grid penalty)
21. Jazeman Jaafar / Calinetic-Mercedes - 1:09.395
22. Nyck de Vries / Brabham-Judd - 1:09.623
23. Nico Rosberg / Brabham-Judd - 1:09.982
24. Conor Daly / Mahindra-Mercedes - 1:09.925 (ten-place grid penalty)
25. Bradley Dagnall / DGN-Judd - 1:08.838 (eight-place grid penalty)
26. Kevin Magnussen / DGN-Judd - 1:08.298 (eighteen-place grid penalty)
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Re: Alternate F1 - The Current Era - 2017 Season

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Caterham will complete the development of a Delta upgrade package immediately following the United States Grands Prix weekend.
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