Alternative CART 1998 (Phoenix race up/Hogan available!)

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 15 Jul 2014, 16:02

Renngeist wrote:
mrfakeboullier wrote:Team Green's plans
Driver 1: Zanardi 5m, Schumacher M 5m , Franchitti 5m
Driver 2: Montoya 3m, Castronevis 4m, Tony Stewart 3m

Chassis: Penske
Engines: Mercedes
Tyres: Firestone
Which Schumacher? Michael or Ralf?

Schumacher M he wrote, so who it has to be?

W12 · Post by **W12** » 15 Jul 2014, 16:12

EDIT: Wrong topic.

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 15 Jul 2014, 16:14

Reject_Dom wrote:
Renngeist wrote:
mrfakeboullier wrote:Team Green's plans
Driver 1: Zanardi 5m, Schumacher M 5m , Franchitti 5m
Driver 2: Montoya 3m, Castronevis 4m, Tony Stewart 3m

Chassis: Penske
Engines: Mercedes
Tyres: Firestone
Which Schumacher? Michael or Ralf?

Schumacher M he wrote, so who it has to be?

Ah, OK. Didn't notice that :oops:

mrfakeboullier · Post by **mrfakeboullier** » 15 Jul 2014, 16:26

Renngeist wrote:
mrfakeboullier wrote:Team Green's plans
Driver 1: Zanardi 5m, Schumacher M 5m , Franchitti 5m
Driver 2: Montoya 3m, Castronevis 4m, Tony Stewart 3m

Chassis: Penske
Engines: Mercedes
Tyres: Firestone
Which Schumacher? Michael or Ralf?

Michael (Hence Schumacher M)

RedEyes504 · Post by **RedEyes504** » 15 Jul 2014, 16:59

Della Penna Motorsport

Driver 1: Alex Wurz (2.5 million) Tom Kristensen (2.6 million) Stefan Johansson (0.725 million)
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Mercedes
Tire: Firestone

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 15 Jul 2014, 17:18

Driver 1: Davey Hamilton: 2.5m ; Tony Stewart: 2.5m ; Jeff Gordon: 4m
Driver 2: Rubens Barrichello: 3.5m ; Damon Hill: 3.5m ; Pierluigi Martini: 0.5m
Chassis: Swift - 1m
Engine: Mercedes - 1.25m
Tire: Firestone - 0.75m

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 15 Jul 2014, 17:32

PacWest Racing Group

Driver 1: Mauricio Gugelmin (4.5m), Eddie Cheever (2m), Raul Boesel (1m)
Driver 2: Michel Jourdain Jr. (2.85m), Pierluigi Martini (1m), Memo Gidley (1m)
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Mercedes
Tire: Firestone

W12 · Post by **W12** » 15 Jul 2014, 19:02

Newman/Haas Racing

Driver 1: Alex Zanardi (5m), Jimmy Vasser (4.9m), Michael Andretti (4.85m)
Driver 2: Christian Fittipaldi (4.35m), Richie Hearn (4.25m), Helio Castroneves (4m)
Driver 3: Scott Goodyear (1.4m), Roberto Guerrero (1m), Hiteshi Matsuda (-0.75m)
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Mercedes
Tire: Firestone

V8fan12 · Post by **V8fan12** » 15 Jul 2014, 20:41

Tasman Motorsports Group

Driver 1: Helio Castroneves (4m), Juan Pablo Montoya (3.2m), Davey Hamilton (2m)
Chassis: Penske
Engine: Honda
Tire: Goodyear

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 15 Jul 2014, 21:03

Penske:
Driver 1:
Jacques Villeneuve 7m
Alex Zanardi 7m
Michael Schumacher 6.8m

Driver 2:
Roberto Moreno (What he brings)
Alessandri Zampandri (What he brings)
Claude Bourbonnais (What he brings)

Driver 3:
Al Unser Jr 4.55m
Gil de Ferran 4.5
Jeff Gordon 4m

Chassis:Penske 0m (we do it

)
Engine:Mercedes
Tyres:Firestone

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 15 Jul 2014, 21:12

Normal32 wrote:Penske:
Driver 1:
Jacques Villeneuve 7m
Alex Zanardi 7m
Michael Schumacher 6.8m

Driver 2:
Roberto Moreno (only if he brings 1.5m)
Jari Munimen (only if he brings 0.5m)
Claude Bourbonnais (only if he brings 1m)

Driver 3:
Al Unser Jr 4.55m
Gil de Ferran 4.5
Jeff Gordon 4m

Chassis:Penske 0m (we do it )
Engine:Mercedes
Tyres:Firestone

Pay drivers only bring the amount that is on my list. Also, who the bathplug is Jari Munimen

I assume you mean Jari Nurminen. He isn't on the list, so you have to choose another driver.

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 16 Jul 2014, 08:15

Munimen is HWNSNBM's long distance cousin

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 16 Jul 2014, 09:58

Hogan Racing
Driver 1: Mika Häkkinen(4m$); Juan Paplo Montoya(3.5m$); Mauricio Gugelmin(4.25m$)
Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Mercedes
Tire: Goodyear

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 17 Jul 2014, 07:18

I'm still waiting for the contracts of Paton/Coyne, Bettenhausen and Davis. We also need one more manager.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 17 Jul 2014, 14:53

Driver 1: Alex Wurz 3 mill, mark webber 1 mill, Roberto Moreno

Chassis Lola
Engine Toyota
Tyres firestone

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 17 Jul 2014, 15:08

Will the engine suppliers be member run? If so I'm interested. If not, I guess I'll take project CART.

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 17 Jul 2014, 15:19

Normal32 wrote:Chassis:Penske 0m (we do it )

The best was in the mid-90's, when you can just get a year-old chassis and don't have to care hell

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 17 Jul 2014, 15:58

Wallio wrote:Will the engine suppliers be member run? If so I'm interested. If not, I guess I'll take project CART.

Engine suppliers are not run by members, so you'll take Project CART. Please post your contracts here.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 17 Jul 2014, 16:13

Project CART Plans:

Driver 1: Tony Stewart 3.35 mill, Robby Gordon 3.35 mill, Christian Danner 1.5 mil

Chassis: Reynard
Engine: Mercedes
Tyres: Firestone

Ice1Racing · Post by **Ice1Racing** » 17 Jul 2014, 16:53

Driver 1: Mika Hakkinen, JJ Lehto, Christian Danner (All at listed price)
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Merc
Tires: Goodyear

W12 · Post by **W12** » 17 Jul 2014, 19:29

Could the point system be changed? I think something like 100-85-75-65-60-55-50-45-40-35-30-27-25-22-20-17-15-12-10-7-5-4-3-2-1 for the top 25 would suit CART better.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Jul 2014, 20:40

W12 wrote:Could the point system be changed? I think something like 100-85-75-65-60-55-50-45-40-35-30-27-25-22-20-17-15-12-10-7-5-4-3-2-1 for the top 25 would suit CART better.

Ugh, no. If anything, switch to the current IndyCar system, though I don't think anything is wrong with the CART system.

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 18 Jul 2014, 15:02

Well actually, I thought about 20 drivers scoring 25-22-20-18-16-15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 + 1 for pole.

W12 · Post by **W12** » 18 Jul 2014, 15:13

Reject_Dom wrote:Well actually, I thought about 20 drivers scoring 25-22-20-18-16-15-14-13-12-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 + 1 for pole.

Or possibly 30-24-20-16-14-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 for the top 14 and 5 points for pole, 3 for most laps led and 1 for fastest lap.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 18 Jul 2014, 18:46

There's nothing wrong with the actual CART system. Hell current Indycar should run it. Everyone SHOULD NOT get a point. Period.

mrfakeboullier · Post by **mrfakeboullier** » 18 Jul 2014, 20:15

Wallio wrote:There's nothing wrong with the actual CART system. Hell current Indycar should run it. Everyone SHOULD NOT get a point. Period.

That would certainly lead to close championships.
S.Dixon-0
H.Castronevis 0
etc.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 19 Jul 2014, 09:17

Coyne Plans

1. Juan Pablo Montoya (3m)
2. Arnd Meier (2.8m)
3. Marco Greco (1.5m)
Driver 2:
1. Dennis Vitolo (-0.7m)
2. Claude Bourbonnais (-0.55m)
3. Hiteshi Matsuda (-0.75m)
Chassis: Lola.
Engine: Ford
Tire: Firestone

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 19 Jul 2014, 11:42

Phoenix wrote:CHIP GANASSI RACING
Driver 1:
-Alex Zanardi ($6.500.000).
-Jimmy Vasser ($6.400.000).
-Dario Franchitti ($6.400.000).
Driver 2:
-Tony Stewart ($2.850.000).
-Arie Luyendyk ($3.500.000).
-Memo Gidley ($1.500.000).
Chassis: Reynard.
Engine: Mercedes-Benz.
Tire: Goodyear.

You need to name a 3rd driver.

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 19 Jul 2014, 12:20

I've now done the RNG, but we need more drivers for Chip Ganassi, Patrick, AAR and Davis. Phoenix, Samster, SeedStriker & andrew, please name them.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 19 Jul 2014, 12:33

AAR Drivers 2nd Bid

1)Michael Andretti (5.5M)
2)Greg Moore (5M)
3)Mark Blundell (4.5M)

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 19 Jul 2014, 14:58

I'll offer Panis ralf Schumacher and Fisichella 3.89 mill

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 19 Jul 2014, 15:05

Patrick Racing will offer Patrick Carpentier 4M.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 22 Jul 2014, 11:35

Ganassi's third driver will be Michele Alboreto, for $500.000.

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 22 Jul 2014, 13:07

Alright, we've got all the drivers, so let's move on to the first race!

The Grand Prix of Long Beach - Qualifying

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Final results

1. Gil de Ferran (Team Penske) 1.07.025
2. Alex Zanardi (Newman/Haas Racing) 1.07.108
3. Roberto Moreno (Team Penske) 1.07.161
4. Jimmy Vasser (Chip Ganassi Racing) 1.07.197
5. Mauricio Gugelmin (Team Rahal) 1.07.255
6. Scott Goodyear (Newman/Haas Racing) 1.07.305
7. Michael Andretti (All American Racing) 1.07.387
8. Helio Castroneves (Newman/Haas Racing) 1.07.443*
9. Rubens Barrichello (Forsythe Racing) 1.07.509
10. Jacques Villeneuve (Team Penske) 1.07.647
--------------------------------------------------------Q3
11. Bobby Rahal (Team Rahal) 1.07.688
12. Eddie Cheever (PacWest Racing Group) 1.07.893
13. Michel Jourdain, Jr. (PacWest Racing Group) 1.08.164
14. Tony Stewart (Chip Ganassi Racing) 1.08.202*
15. Robby Gordon (Project CART) 1.08.236
16. Davey Hamilton (Tasman Motorsport Group) 1.08.540
17. Jeff Gordon (Forsythe Racing) 1.08.704*
18. Mika Häkkinen (Hogan Racing) 1.09.002
19. Max Papis (Walker Racing) 1.09.417
20. Pierluigi Martini (Arciero-Wells Racing) 1.09.635
--------------------------------------------------------Q2
21. Christian Danner (Bettenhausen Racing) 1.09.999
22. Michael Schumacher (Team Green) 1.10.237*
23. Dennis Vitolo (Arciero-Wells Racing) 1.10.352
24. Alex Wurz (Della Penna Motorsport) 1.10.370
25. Juan Pablo Montoya (Team Green) 1.10.452*
26. Hiteshi Matsuda (Paton/Coyne Racing) 1.10.671
27. Olivier Panis (Davis Racing) 1.10.938
28. Patrick Carpentier (Patrick Racing) 1.11.285
29. Arnd Meier (Paton/Coyne Racing) 1.11.394
30. Vincenzo Sospiri (Patrick Racing) 1.11.592

Other drivers did not qualify.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 22 Jul 2014, 16:19

19th and DNQ. Expected a bit better.

What are the asterisks for?

Dom_Wings · Post by **Dom_Wings** » 22 Jul 2014, 16:39

5th and 11th. Not bad really

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 22 Jul 2014, 17:11

Bleu wrote:What are the asterisks for?

They mean that a driver has had problems (traffic, damage, etc.) during his qualifying laps.

mrfakeboullier · Post by **mrfakeboullier** » 22 Jul 2014, 21:21

Both cars got traffic/ an issue so not to worry. Two questions: one, what are you simulating this on and two, when will the race be up

W12 · Post by **W12** » 23 Jul 2014, 01:48

mrfakeboullier wrote:Both cars got traffic/ an issue so not to worry. Two questions: one, what are you simulating this on and two, when will the race be up

He already said he simulates this with Excel and RNG.

Renngeist · Post by **Renngeist** » 24 Jul 2014, 18:08

Race

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RESULTS
1. Michael Andretti (All American Racing) 105 laps
2. Roberto Moreno (Team Penske) +9.129
3. Alex Zanardi (Newman/Haas Racing) +11.472
4. Scott Goodyear (Newman/Haas Racing) +15.394
5. Bobby Rahal (Team Rahal) +21.973
6. Gil de Ferran (Team Penske) +24.943
7. Michael Schumacher (Team Green) +37.024
8. Mauricio Gugelmin (Team Rahal) +1 lap
9. Tony Stewart (Chip Ganassi Racing) +1 lap
10. Mika Häkkinen (Hogan Racing) +2 laps
11. Hiteshi Matsuda (Paton/Coyne Racing) +6 laps
DNF. Jimmy Vasser (Chip Ganassi Racing) Spun off, lap 97
DNF. Max Papis (Walker Racing) Accident, lap 80
DNF. Patrick Carpentier (Patrick Racing) Accident, lap 75
DNF. Michel Jourdain, Jr. (PacWest Racing Group) Engine, lap 71
DNF. Arnd Meier (Paton/Coyne Racing) Chassis, lap 63
DNF. Jeff Gordon (Forsythe Racing) Gearbox, lap 51
DNF. Alex Wurz (Della Penna Motorsport) Accident, lap 36
DNF. Olivier Panis (Davis Racing) Accident, lap 4

All the other cars retired on lap 1. Now, that would have been interesting to watch... My computer stopped working after that, so if, for example, they have the same number of points and their championship position must be decided by their race results, the results will be the qualifying results. But they can also be counted as non-starters.

Weather:

Laps 1-14 Dry
Laps 15-19 Light Rain (yes, rain at Long Beach)
Laps 20-73 Dry
Laps 74-80 Light Rain
Laps 81-99 Rain
Laps 100-102 Monsoon
Laps 103-105 Light Rain

Points After the Race:

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1. Michael Andretti (50 points)
2. Roberto Moreno (40 points
3. Alex Zanardi (35 points)
4. Scott Goodyear (30 points)
5. Bobby Rahal (24 points)
6. Gil de Ferran (21 points)
7. Michael Schumacher (18 points)
8. Mauricio Gugelmin (15 points)
9. Tony Stewart (12 points)
10. Mika Häkkinen (9 points)
11. Hiteshi Matsuda (7 points)

Injury Report:

Michel Jourdain, Jr. crashed because of a puncture and was injured. He can not drive at any race until Phoenix. FantometteBR, please name a replacement and his/her salary.