F2RWRS 2017 // Canada Results UP

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 22 Apr 2014, 20:22

With Wizzie giving it the Jandal at University, and managing to acquire that elusive thing called a life, he cannot unfortunately run F2RWRS any more. I put myself forward to run it, and enough people liked the idea, so for the moment it's looking like I'll be the muppet in charge of the highest of the feeder categories for 2017 and beyond. This will involve me giving the RTCC to Salamander, so it will continue in his capable hands from 2017, just not under my control.

With most canon series having caught up, and F2RWRS 2016 finished, it's time to start preparing for 2017. First of all, here's some fancy links for you:

F2RWRS rules: Will be up once I've finished amending them.
2017 wiki page:http://formularejects.com/wiki/2017_Formula_2_Rejects_World_Race_Series_season
2016 wiki page:http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/2016_Formula_2_Rejects_World_Race_Series_season
2016 Thread:http://www.f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6011
Original F2RWRS Thread (2014+2015):http://f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4326

2017 Rule Changes

1) Pre-Qualifying has been abolished.
2) 107% Rule introduced for qualifying.
3) One engine supplier to the whole grid, a V8 lump tuned by Cosworth. This engine is rebadgeable to any engine manufacturer. However, try to keep it reasonable, as I will block overly silly moves. Pirelli will supply tires to all F2RWRS teams.
4) One common chassis, the Lola B17/50.
5) The penalty points system for last season will carry over, as will any other rule unless otherwise stated.
6) Entries are in the next post.

Waiting List - Accurate of 09/11/2014

(1) Pasta Maldonado - In case someone takes over from me at some point, I'd like to take up first on the waiting list, as I have given up my team to run the series.
(1) AdrianSutil - Had to give up his team due to illness, he'll be at the top of the waiting list until I hear word from him he doesn't want to be in F2RWRS.
1. Salamander
2. HawkAussie
3. takagi_for_the_win
4. Pycku
5. Hermann95
6. WestLondoner
7. V8Fan12
8. OsellaFA1L
9. Normal32

Previous Champions

2016

Driver's Champion:

Diego Alvarez TORRENTE // Plus One Racing Engineering

Team's Champion:

Gulf M/Power Racing-BMW

2015
Driver's Champion:

Tomo KAZAMA// Aston Martin

Team's Champion:

Alitalia-Lancia

2014
Driver's Champion:

Mitchell MACKLIN // MRT-BMW

Team's Champion:

MRT-BMW

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 22 Apr 2014, 20:22

F2RWRS Main Season Entry List HERE: http://formularejects.com/wiki/2017_Formula_2_Rejects_World_Race_Series_season

2017 Pacific Rim Cup

I decided to resurrect the Pacific Rim Cup for 2017 that Wizzie abandoned (

) to test the new era of F2RWRS, and to check if I'd done everything right and hadn't been a muppet. Therefore, the PRC will be a short tournament with races around the Pacific. You are allowed to enter either your signed F2RWRS drivers (if you have them), or unemployed F2RWRS, F3RWRS, or AR 3.5 drivers. You HAVE to enter under the same team name as you do the main season. The schedule is as follows:

1. Telstra Oran Park Challenge - Oran Park Raceway, AUS - January 7-8
2. Nikon Night Fight - Marina Bay Street Circuit, SIN - January 20-22
3. Yaname Electronics Super Prix of Japan - Suzuka, JPN - February 3-5
4. FedEx Grand Prix of Monterrey - Laguna Seca, USA - February 17-19

Pacific Rim Cup Entry List HERE: http://formularejects.com/wiki/2017_F2RWRS_Pacific_Rim_Cup

Entry Forms

Each team needs to fill out entry forms for both the main season and PRC Any team who does NOT do this correctly WILL be penalised for the Pacific Rim Cup.

Main Season
Team Name: (Nationality)
Chassis: LOLA/DALLARA
Engine: Are you rebadging the Cossie or not?
Number, as assigned above: DRIVER 1 (NAT)
Number, as assigned above: DRIVER 2 (NAT)

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: Same as Main Season (Nationality)
Number, as assigned above: DRIVER 1 (NAT)
Number, as assigned above: DRIVER 2 (NAT)
Livery: Do you want a different livery to the main season?

Post by **Ataxia** » 22 Apr 2014, 21:17

Main Season
Team Name: Airwaves Nebula Grand Prix (FRA)
Chassis: LOLA
Engine: Mazda SKYACTIV
#19: Quentin Reatherson (GBR)
#20: Thomas Yorke (GBR)

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: Airwaves Nebula Grand Prix (FRA)
#19: Quentin Reatherson (GBR)
#20: Thomas Yorke (GBR)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Apr 2014, 21:55

Main Season
Poste Étoile Rouge Voeckler (FRA)
Chassis: Dallara F217
Engine: Renault
#11 Dan GREENLAW (USA)
#12 Marcel AGYEMANG-BADU (GHA)

Pacific Rim Cup
SugoSpark Voeckler GPE
#11 Dan GREENLAW (USA)
#12 Marcel AGYEMANG-BADU (GHA)

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 22 Apr 2014, 23:11

Main season
RonDen Racing Engineering // BEL (This)
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Vanhool
#15 Salvatore Miccoli // ITA
#16 Josh Carlisle // UK

Pacific Rim Cup
RonDen Racing Engineering // BEL (This)
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Vanhool
#15 Salvatore Miccoli // ITA
#16 Eric Swerts // BEL

All-Belgian for the engine: Vanhool is actually a big company, selling lots of busses all over the world, so they are a serious factory, and actually had a race team in the past, known by many as Astromega, one of Vanhool's models. They even built an F1 car in the seventies.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Apr 2014, 23:19

This wrote:All-Belgian for the engine: Vanhool is actually a big company, selling lots of busses all over the world, so they are a serious factory, and actually had a race team in the past, known by many as Astromega, one of Vanhool's models. They even built an F1 car in the seventies.

It's true, Van Hool is a massive company in the transport segment. There is a massive depot here in Central Scotland with rows upon rows of Megabus TDX27 Astromegas and CityLink T916 Atlons, and all of them are powered by either Scania or DAF Euro 6 V8 engines. They don't build their own engines!

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 22 Apr 2014, 23:28

Biscione wrote:
This wrote:All-Belgian for the engine: Vanhool is actually a big company, selling lots of busses all over the world, so they are a serious factory, and actually had a race team in the past, known by many as Astromega, one of Vanhool's models. They even built an F1 car in the seventies.

It's true, Van Hool is a massive company in the transport segment. There is a massive depot here in Central Scotland with rows upon rows of Megabus TDX27 Astromegas and CityLink T916 Atlons, and all of them are powered by either Scania or DAF Euro 6 V8 engines. They don't build their own engines!

Van Hool did build an F1 car.

Therefore, I think it's somewhat realistic to let them run a rebadged engine by the name of Van Hool. It's much more realistic than Škoda or Syangyong!

Pasta, may I go onto the waiting list please?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 22 Apr 2014, 23:45

Biscione wrote:
This wrote:All-Belgian for the engine: Vanhool is actually a big company, selling lots of busses all over the world, so they are a serious factory, and actually had a race team in the past, known by many as Astromega, one of Vanhool's models. They even built an F1 car in the seventies.

It's true, Van Hool is a massive company in the transport segment. There is a massive depot here in Central Scotland with rows upon rows of Megabus TDX27 Astromegas and CityLink T916 Atlons, and all of them are powered by either Scania or DAF Euro 6 V8 engines. They don't build their own engines!

Neither does F2RWRS, so in my opinion, this is more realistic than continuing with Zastava, who can't even sell their cars in their own country. They actually have more real-life racing history than countrymen Gillet, who sell even less cars than Marussia

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Apr 2014, 00:03

Main Season
Team Name: Aeroracing Engineering (GB/ESP)
Chassis: Dallara
Engine: Audi TFSI hybrid
#17: Jordan Davies (GB)
#18: TBA (TBA)

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: Aeroracing Engineering (GB/ESP)
#17: Jordan Davies (GB)
#18: TBA (TBA)
Livery: Same

And... would Nick Nurmester be interested in driving for us at both championships?

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 23 Apr 2014, 00:29

Phoenix wrote:And... would Nick Nurmester be interested in driving for us at both championships?

Nope because he's already signed with me!

Main Season
Team Name: National Jones Ford Juniors (GBR)
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Ford
23: Nick Nurmester (FIN)
24: TBA

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: National Jones Ford Juniors (GBR)
23: Nick Nurmester (FIN)
24: TBA
Livery: Same

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 23 Apr 2014, 00:35

Main Season
Team Name: Ansett Holden Young Lions (AUS)
Chassis: Dallara
Engine: Holden. Duh

3: Carter Simpson (AUS)
4: TBD

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: Ansett Holden Young Lions (AUS)
3: Carter Simpson (AUS)
4: TBD
Livery: Same

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 23 Apr 2014, 02:59

Can I at least design the template in MS Paint and have someone convert it to rFactor format?

Also thanks for not using a survey site.

Anyways,

Main Season:
Team Name: Aston Martin Motor Racing (Great Britain/United Kingdom, take your pick)
Chassis: Dallara (no speed diff, which is nice

)
Engine: Rebadge as Aston Martin (:/)
#7 TBD
#8 TBD

Pacific Rim Cup:
Team Name: Aston Martin Motor Racing (GBR/UK)
#7 Marie Simon (France)
#8 TBD
Livery: Same

(Will be deciding later on when the races get nearer)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Apr 2014, 03:45

Because I have the power to grandfather clause basically whatever the hell I want until I post the results for Tropico, I would like to decree right now that I veto any attempts at hybrid technology by Fusion and Aeroracing, simply because the Cossie V8 lump isn't capable of stuff that's from any later than the 1970s yet

On a more serious note, another thing that is being grandfather claused into the new F2RWRS is a ban on any and all full-time double-dutying (i.e. a driver competing in F2 full time cannot compete in another category unless they're acting as a supersub for another driver, and vice versa). This rule will also apply to PRIC, and thus, any driver competing in FRENCH will not be allowed to participate in PRIC, and vice versa.

Finally, it's Penrith Speedway, not Oran Park

Anyway, onto MRT's entry for 2017:

Main Season
Team Name: PDVSA Melrose Racing Team (Australia/Germany)
Chassis: Lola (I think that's the one the draft livery was done on. If not, then change it to whatever one it was)
Engine: BMW P91
#5: Gianluigi Pazzini (Italy)
#6: Takuma Taki (Japan)

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: PDVSA Melrose Racing Team (Australia/Germany)
#5: Gianluigi Pazzini (Italy)
#6: Franc Piscine (Switzerland) (pending Pasta's approval)
Livery: Same

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 23 Apr 2014, 03:55

Main Season:
Team Name: Hunky Dory Glory Racing (RUS)
Chassis: Lola
Engine: Cosworth
#29 Shane Walsh
#30 TBA

Pacific Rim Cup:
Team Name: Hunky Dory Glory Racing (RUS)
#29 Shane Walsh
#30 Lukas Zuber

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 23 Apr 2014, 06:41

Wizzie wrote:Because I have the power to grandfather clause basically whatever the hell I want until I post the results for Tropico, I would like to decree right now that I veto any attempts at hybrid technology by Fusion and Aeroracing, simply because the Cossie V8 lump isn't capable of stuff that's from any later than the 1970s yet

On a more serious note, another thing that is being grandfather claused into the new F2RWRS is a ban on any and all full-time double-dutying (i.e. a driver competing in F2 full time cannot compete in another category unless they're acting as a supersub for another driver, and vice versa). This rule will also apply to PRIC, and thus, any driver competing in FRENCH will not be allowed to participate in PRIC, and vice versa.

Finally, it's Penrith Speedway, not Oran Park

Indeed, Wizzie makes some good points. Fusion and Aeroracing, I will accept the Mazda and Audi rebadging, but no hybrids - unless you count having a battery strapped to the Cossie being a hybrid, I don't know.

I haven't picked up on it so far, but something I forgot to mention is that double-dutying is BANNED for the PRC and the main season. This rule is to stop people trying to enter the one driver in multiple series concurrently. Bear in mind that until Aerond releases the calendar dates for FRENCH, there may well be clashes. Each team is only allowed to use a total of five (5) drivers over the main season, but more on that will be available after the PRC.

Also, I was a muppet and forgot it's now penrith, my mistake

It was the Lola the livery was done on and yes, Piscine accepts the offer for the PRC drive.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 23 Apr 2014, 07:40

Bugger, I already entered Thomas Yorke in FRENCH because I thought PRC was dead and buried. I can either offer Tommi Hämäläinen as a replacement or see if Aerond still allows me to change my lineup.

Post by **Ataxia** » 23 Apr 2014, 10:43

Nuppiz wrote:Bugger, I already entered Thomas Yorke in FRENCH because I thought PRC was dead and buried. I can either offer Tommi Hämäläinen as a replacement or see if Aerond still allows me to change my lineup.

No worries, I'll use Jorge Alvarez Torrente in Yorke's place.

Also, the SKYACTIV isn't actually a hybrid unit, so I'm alright in that respect. There are hybrid versions, but this is (obviously) not one of them.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Apr 2014, 10:58

Ataxia wrote:Also, the SKYACTIV isn't actually a hybrid unit, so I'm alright in that respect. There are hybrid versions, but this is (obviously) not one of them.

Ah, fair enough, we'll let that through. Just don't do any of that nasty eco-friendly stuff to the poor Cossie and we'll be all fine

Post by **Ataxia** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:14

Wizzie wrote:
Ataxia wrote:Also, the SKYACTIV isn't actually a hybrid unit, so I'm alright in that respect. There are hybrid versions, but this is (obviously) not one of them.

Ah, fair enough, we'll let that through. Just don't do any of that nasty eco-friendly stuff to the poor Cossie and we'll be all fine

*nonchalantly throws KERS unit into bin*

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:14

Main Season
Team Name: Red Bull World Race Team (GBR)
Chassis: DALLARA
Engine: the standard Cosworth lump
Number, as assigned above: Sebastien Prost (FRA)
Number, as assigned above: Cave Johnson (USA)

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: Red Bull World Race Team (GBR)
Number, as assigned above: Johnson/Prost (they will share the drive)
Number, as assigned above: TBA
Do you want a different livery to the main season? Nope

If shared Pacific Rim drives are banned then Johnson and Prost will take one car each

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:17

Main Season:
Team Name: Scuderia Aqua (Italy)
Chassis: Dallara
Engine: rebadged as Ferrari F2-060/7, if possible
#27 (Open)
#28 (Open for any Italian drivers)

Pacific Rim Cup:
Team Name: Scuderia Aqua
#27 (Open)
#28 (Open)

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:29

FMecha wrote:#28 Mustafa Kurniawan

So having spent all last year getting his arse raped by a rookie South African paydriver in a series with cars that have 160 bhp, and following a couple of abysmal showings in Lupo GTi's, Mr. Kurniawan gets himself a seat in F2...

This should be good :lol:

Post by **Ataxia** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:36

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
FMecha wrote:#28 Mustafa Kurniawan

So having spent all last year getting his arse raped by a rookie South African paydriver in a series with cars that have 160 bhp, and following a couple of abysmal showings in Lupo GTi's, Mr. Kurniawan gets himself a seat in F2...

This should be good

I'm more concerned about that fact that people far and wide are trying to get their drivers up a level, and with the canon being the size that it is there's no dearth of talent. And then Mecha goes and puts Yuji Itoh in the car...who even is he? He's gonna make Benoit Voeckler look so competent, he'll be given the nickname "Yuji Shitoh" by the first race of the PRC.

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:55

Main Season
Team Name: Dacia Simpson Motorsports (AUS)
Chassis: DALLARA
Engine: Dacia/Renault
#1 Alessandro Lucarelli (Italian)
#2 Matthias Valsattis (Latvian)

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: Dacia Simpson Motorsports (AUS)
#1 Alessandro Lucarelli (Italian)
#2 TBA
Livery: Do you want a different livery to the main season? Using a different livery promoting a different Renault-Nissan make depending on race location.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:56

Lucarelli is okay to do the PRC.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 23 Apr 2014, 11:57

Ataxia wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:
FMecha wrote:#28 Mustafa Kurniawan

So having spent all last year getting his arse raped by a rookie South African paydriver in a series with cars that have 160 bhp, and following a couple of abysmal showings in Lupo GTi's, Mr. Kurniawan gets himself a seat in F2...

This should be good

I'm more concerned about that fact that people far and wide are trying to get their drivers up a level, and with the canon being the size that it is there's no dearth of talent. And then Mecha goes and puts Yuji Itoh in the car...who even is he? He's gonna make Benoit Voeckler look so competent, he'll be given the nickname "Yuji Shitoh" by the first race of the PRC.

Itoh? He's out since the Aurico drama, you know. I removed him from the seat anyways.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Apr 2014, 12:01

Just thought I'd mention that for everyone's reference, Matthias Valsattis has been declared fit for the PRIC

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 23 Apr 2014, 12:12

Everyone's entries are looking good so far, however there are a few things to pick up on:

MinardiFan95 wrote:
#0 Alessandro Lucarelli (Italian)
.

1) MinardiFan95, Simpson will be using the #1 instead of #0.
Long reason why: Champions in F2RWRS move on every season, so the number 1 can be used by the previous season's Constructors Champions.
Short reason why: Because I can, pretty much

FMecha wrote:Team Name: Scuderia Aqua
#27 Yuji Itoh
#28 Mustafa Kurniawan

2) Nope. Kurniawan and Itoh are banned from F2RWRS until they gain more experience in high powered machinery at this level.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Apr 2014, 12:19

pasta_maldonado wrote:Everyone's entries are looking good so far, however there are a few things to pick up on:

MinardiFan95 wrote:
#0 Alessandro Lucarelli (Italian)
.

1) MinardiFan95, Simpson will be using the #1 instead of #0.
Long reason why: Champions in F2RWRS move on every season, so the number 1 can be used by the previous season's Constructors Champions.
Short reason why: Because I can, pretty much

Let the man choose whether he wants 0 or 1. I just put 1 on the wiki because it looked better

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 23 Apr 2014, 16:28

pasta_maldonado wrote:
2) Nope. Kurniawan and Itoh are banned from F2RWRS until they gain more experience in high powered machinery at this level.

No wonder people mocked my choice :lol:

I'll get a better choice.

Post by **tommykl** » 23 Apr 2014, 17:15

Main Season
Team Name: Gillet Ecurie Nationale Belge (BEL)
Chassis: LOLA
Engine: Gillet (duh)
#13: Jason Hamilton (AUS)
#14: Unconfirmed (likely to be Alexandre Dorval if no one wants it)

Pacific Rim Cup
Team Name: Gillet Ecurie Nationale Belge (BEL)
#13: Jason Hamilton (AUS)
#14: Unconfirmed (likely to be Alexandre Dorval if no one wants it)

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 23 Apr 2014, 20:11

Yeah, I see that it's a long way, but put me on the waiting list, anyways. I need to enter one of the open-wheel RWRS series

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 23 Apr 2014, 20:17

Yep, you guys have been added to the list. In other news, I realise my stance on liveries was a bit extreme, so you can ask for help with those now. If you can't do your own livery, I/any other painter needs a description of what you think the car should look like, what sponsors you want, if they have the license to add other sponsors to fill gaps, etc.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 23 Apr 2014, 21:37

Yeah, my drawing skills are hopeless, and i sure as hell can't work with the right programs

But i'm good enough to make a sketch in paint of sort of how it should look, (thanks to TurboGirls templates)
This is sort of how it should be, which is actually not different from what i usually have in here. The colours should not be specific like this picture (as they are standard paint colours), but obviously should be as close possible to the sponsor logos. If possible the usage of different shades of blue is encouraged. On the upper side of the wings, i would prefer the orange.
Usually biscuit boy does the F2RWRS liveries because one of his drivers is in, but if someone else wants a go, that will be appreciated too. I'll give you a cookie, or something

I hope you people appreciate the fact that i at least made a sketch.

Post by **Ataxia** » 23 Apr 2014, 22:19

This wrote:Yeah, my drawing skills are hopeless, and i sure as hell can't work with the right programs But i'm good enough to make a sketch in paint of sort of how it should look, (thanks to TurboGirls templates)
This is sort of how it should be, which is actually not different from what i usually have in here. The colours should not be specific like this picture (as they are standard paint colours), but obviously should be as close possible to the sponsor logos. If possible the usage of different shades of blue is encouraged. On the upper side of the wings, i would prefer the orange.
Usually biscuit boy does the F2RWRS liveries because one of his drivers is in, but if someone else wants a go, that will be appreciated too. I'll give you a cookie, or something

I hope you people appreciate the fact that i at least made a sketch.

I expect Pasta and I will be doing the bulk of the liveries, so I don't mind looking at doing this one...that said, if Biscotti's up for doing it then that takes some stuff off of our respective plates.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 24 Apr 2014, 06:13

Are IFRC drivers eligible to partake in Pacific Rim Cup, Pasta?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 24 Apr 2014, 06:32

FMecha wrote:Are IFRC drivers eligible to partake in Pacific Rim Cup, Pasta?

Opening Post wrote:2017 Pacific Rim Cup

I decided to resurrect the Pacific Rim Cup for 2017 that Wizzie abandoned ( ) to test the new era of F2RWRS, and to check if I'd done everything right and hadn't been a muppet. Therefore, the PRC will be a short tournament with races around the Pacific. You are allowed to enter ... or AR 3.5 drivers

So yes, yes they are

Post by **Nuppiz** » 24 Apr 2014, 06:34

pasta_maldonado wrote:
FMecha wrote:Are IFRC drivers eligible to partake in Pacific Rim Cup, Pasta?

Opening Post wrote:2017 Pacific Rim Cup

I decided to resurrect the Pacific Rim Cup for 2017 that Wizzie abandoned ( ) to test the new era of F2RWRS, and to check if I'd done everything right and hadn't been a muppet. Therefore, the PRC will be a short tournament with races around the Pacific. You are allowed to enter ... or AR 3.5 drivers

So yes, yes they are

Be advised though: AR 3.5 is also planning a winter championship, I just need to get around posting about it

. But since it will feature only one driver per team it shouldn't be too much of a problem.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 26 Apr 2014, 10:37

Alexander Obolensky and his sack of Vladimir Putin endorsed wonga are looking for a seat in F2RWRS this season; unfortunately I think the PRC clashes with FRENCH this year. Anyway, he proved himself to be highly competent in F3RWRS last year; he also has experience of AR3.5 cars and will compete in FRENCH during the offseason.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 26 Apr 2014, 10:59

If Backmarker is around, how would Renato Bulku like a promotion to the F2RWRS for the Young Lions? Now that someone who isn't going to butcher his performance file is running it, he should be somewhat competitive