Re: MasterCard Lola - lots of broken links
Posted: 11 Sep 2017, 10:32
This is the article I kinda had in mind when I set about writing my Lola profile (albeit in French instead of English).
A tribute to the heroic failures of Grand Prix racing
https://www.gprejects.com/forum/
dr-baker wrote:This is the article I kinda had in mind when I set about writing my Lola profile (albeit in French instead of English).
FM1 wrote:dr-baker wrote:This is the article I kinda had in mind when I set about writing my Lola profile (albeit in French instead of English).
Hey! Writer of this article here. First of, thank you so much for the share! I hope you liked it even with that rough translation
Recently, I properly translated this article in English, you can find the link right here: https://formulemoy1.com/en/2017/02/15/l ... la-1-team/ (I also translated another one, I talked about De Cesaris, if you are interested)
See you!
CaptainGetz12 wrote:Not sure if this was touched on in the old article, but something has been bothering me about MasterCard Lola...
Looking at qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, all of the Bridgestone-shod cars qualified considerably slower than the Goodyear cars. Only two Bridgestone cars qualified in the top 10 (Johnny Herbert and Olivier Panis), with the back half of the field almost completely made of Bridgestone users.
The Lolas also uses Bridgestones, but in the following grand prix in Brazil (the race where Lola already closed its F1 operation) Bridgestone addressed issues with its tires if Panis's 5th place and Hill's 10th were any indication.
This makes me wonder: Would the Lolas of qualified for the Brazilian GP if they kept going after race one? If the tire issues were a deciding factor it makes the move to scuttle the F1 team as premature. They probably still would of made the back row of the grid, but at least the car would be racing. Is there any credence to this theory?
CaptainGetz12 wrote:Not sure if this was touched on in the old article, but something has been bothering me about MasterCard Lola...
Looking at qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, all of the Bridgestone-shod cars qualified considerably slower than the Goodyear cars. Only two Bridgestone cars qualified in the top 10 (Johnny Herbert and Olivier Panis), with the back half of the field almost completely made of Bridgestone users.
The Lolas also uses Bridgestones, but in the following grand prix in Brazil (the race where Lola already closed its F1 operation) Bridgestone addressed issues with its tires if Panis's 5th place and Hill's 10th were any indication.
This makes me wonder: Would the Lolas of qualified for the Brazilian GP if they kept going after race one? If the tire issues were a deciding factor it makes the move to scuttle the F1 team as premature. They probably still would of made the back row of the grid, but at least the car would be racing. Is there any credence to this theory?
This wrote:CaptainGetz12 wrote:Not sure if this was touched on in the old article, but something has been bothering me about MasterCard Lola...
Looking at qualifying for the Australian Grand Prix, all of the Bridgestone-shod cars qualified considerably slower than the Goodyear cars. Only two Bridgestone cars qualified in the top 10 (Johnny Herbert and Olivier Panis), with the back half of the field almost completely made of Bridgestone users.
The Lolas also uses Bridgestones, but in the following grand prix in Brazil (the race where Lola already closed its F1 operation) Bridgestone addressed issues with its tires if Panis's 5th place and Hill's 10th were any indication.
This makes me wonder: Would the Lolas of qualified for the Brazilian GP if they kept going after race one? If the tire issues were a deciding factor it makes the move to scuttle the F1 team as premature. They probably still would of made the back row of the grid, but at least the car would be racing. Is there any credence to this theory?
Not yet in Brazil, At Australia, the gap between Lola and arrows who were second last, was just too big. But maybe from the European season on they could be doing better in the Bridgestone-favoured tracks. But they would have needed a reliable sponsor to get that far. Let alone do some development on the car. Another problem was the sub-par driver quality.
Feel free to strikethrough and replace at your own convenienceMichael Schumacher wrote:The only heroes I really had were in the karting days, seeing two guys one of which was Ayrton Senna and the other Vincenzo Sospiri. They were so special in their own way, dominating the karting world. It was just fascinating to watch them.
dr-baker wrote:Turns out that Racing Point were trying to revive the Lola name for this season...
https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/04/for ... lola-name/
CarloSpace wrote:dr-baker wrote:Turns out that Racing Point were trying to revive the Lola name for this season...
https://www.racefans.net/2019/02/04/for ... lola-name/
Apparently Brabham name too: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/141335/brabham-refused-efforts-to-revive-name-in-f1
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Lola's brief attempt at joining the F1 grid in 1997 is one of the most famous failures in recent F1 history. In this episode of Bring Back V10s, Sam Smith and Edd Straw join Glenn Freeman to revisit how this famous British car constructor got things so badly wrong when it finally tried to enter its own team.
We look back at Lola's long-running ambition to enter F1 itself after building cars for other teams in the past, and why it kept stretching its own deadline for an entry for 1997. It's well known that title sponsor MasterCard forced the team to enter at the last minute - but why was the credit card company so insistent that it had to be '97 rather than Lola's preferred path to an entry in '98? There's also the stories of why the car was so bad, what it felt like to drive, why Lola thought it could design its own V10 engine on a fraction of the budget spent by major manufacturers, what happened when the T97/30 was finally put in a windtunnel, the drastic changes Lola considered making during the embarrassing Australian GP weekend, and how alterations were made for the second race of the year that would have made the car even slower if the team hadn't closed just before that Brazilian GP weekend.
dr-baker wrote:I never expected this thread to get to 100,000 views...
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dr-baker wrote:CoopsII wrote:dr-baker wrote:I never expected this thread to get to 100,000 views...
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What's BOTtas got to do with it?
Pacific Edge wrote:Was refreshing to see companies like Mastercard and Pennzoil in F1, pity this experience may have scared them off F1 for good. Although with Mastercard, it was a considerable own goal
mario wrote:Pacific Edge wrote:Was refreshing to see companies like Mastercard and Pennzoil in F1, pity this experience may have scared them off F1 for good. Although with Mastercard, it was a considerable own goal
Pennzoil did come back in later years as a minor sponsor of Haas...