The Quiz Thread

[tommykl]

Standings for the quotes quiz.

1. SuperAguri - 11/30
2. dinizintheoven - 4.33/30
3. pi314159 - 4/30
4. Shadaza - 2.5/30

[dinizintheoven]

Bah. There goes my chance of winning that one, then...

[mario]

Bah. There goes my chance of winning that one, then...

Whilst I do not want to give away too much, I can say that you have done better at my questions than you predicted you would in the message you sent me.

[roblo97]

I will have a go at the technicle one tomorrow.

[dinizintheoven]

Whilst I do not want to give away too much, I can say that you have done better at my questions than you predicted you would in the message you sent me.

...in that it looks like I've got one question right!

And a lot wrong...

[mario]

Sorry for the slight delay in posting the answers, but now that it is the weekend I have a bit of time to sort this post out.

1) In 1970, Ferrari developed a version of their flat 12 engine which could be used for an unusual use outside of F1 following enquiries from an American investor. What use would that have been for?

Answer: Some of you came up with suggestions that were logical, such as Can Am, whilst another suggestion - powerboat racing - was true for Ferrari's earlier V12 rather than the flat 12 engine. However, the true answer is a little more left field than those answers.
According to Forghieri's memoirs, the answer is in fact a light aircraft engine - the company, Franklin, wanted a powerful but lightweight engine and though Ferrari's engine would fit the bill. A conceptual design was developed, where the ancillaries could be stored in the wings rather than bolted onto the engine, but Franklin went bankrupt before the project developed much further.

2) Cosworth's DFV may have been quite successful, but in 1970 the "bad batch" engines suffered from terrible reliability issues due to premature crankshaft issues. What, according to legend, was the reason for the crankshafts failing so rapidly?

Answer: kevinbotz and cretoxyrhina both got this one. Cosworth's crankshafts had a nitride layer on them (due to its high toughness) which had to be machined down to produce a smooth finish. Unfortunately, an inexperienced technician accidentally machined right through the nitride layer on that batch of crankshafts, forcing Cosworth to have to scavenge old crankshafts from earlier engines that were being rebuilt in house.

3) In 1979, Ligier encountered a tricky performance problem with the JS11 - on the straights, the car was bottoming out because the car was producing too much downforce. What solution did Ligier devise to get around that issue?

Answer: A few of you suggested removing the front wing - although this was a common practise, this was mainly to reduce the disruption to the airflow beneath the car.
The solution is quite obscure, so I'm not surprised nobody got this one. Ligier's solution was to have a spring loaded flap in the underfloor of the car which, once the pressure dropped below a certain point, would open slightly to allow partial equalisation of the air pressure beneath and above the floor. This novel solution was carried through onto the 1980 spec JS11/15 until it was discovered by a FISA official and banned as a moveable aerodynamic device.

4) In 1982, Alfa Romeo decided to test their turbo engine during the practise sessions for the Italian GP. Since some components were incomplete, what unusual feature did the engine sport for this test session that surprised the rest of the paddock?

Answer: cretoxyrhina got this particular answer - Alfa Romeo were waiting for an electronically operated fuel injection system which was still under development at the time. As a stop gap measure, they fitted a carburettor on each cylinder - something that had not been seen in F1 for decades. Here is a photograph of the engine as first shown to the paddock in that practise session:


5) The use of the engine as a stressed member has been established in many strands of motorsport, including F1, for many years - but which F1 car was the first one designed to do so?

Answer: Several of you suggested the Lotus 49 - although the 49 was perhaps the first successful implementation of the idea, it was first tried on the Lotus 43 that had been launched the previous year. Some of you suggested the Lotus 25, which did use the engine as a semi-stressed member.

However, the answer I was thinking of predates all of those, which is the 1955 Lancia D50, a car that some feel was technically more innovative than the Mercedes W196 but, as a result, too unreliable and difficult to set up (dinizintheoven, the manufacturer is in fact not as obscure as perhaps you thought). pasta_maldonado, going for the sheer eccentricity vote, ironically almost got the answer - he joked that it was the 1954 Ferrari, but, had he said the 1956 Ferrari I'd have given half a point for that (the Lancia D50 was sold to Ferrari and campaigned by them in 1956).

6) Telemetry is now widespread as a means of monitoring the performance of the cars, but which outfit was the first to install a computerised monitoring system on their car?

Answer: Tyrrell were the first team that I am aware of who made use of onboard electronic data monitoring, first used in test sessions in 1977 during development of the B spec P34.

The above photograph shows the data logger system being installed on the P34B during a test session that year.

6) What performance enhancing suspension component did Renault attempt to develop in 1984 that is similar to a system the modern Lotus team developed in recent years?

Answer: Yes, I now realise my error in the numbering system. I decided to award a half point to kevinbotz who suggested that Renault were developing a passively operated hydraulically interconnected suspension system, as his answer is close to the actual answer.
The system that the original Renault team were developing in 1984 was a hydraulically operated self levelling ride height system. The FRIC system Lotus use now is intended to partially offset pitch effects but isn't quite the same (it was also, strictly speaking, first invented by Tyrrell in the mid 1990's and possibly why Mercedes were one of the major proponents of the system in recent years). This is similar in principle to a system that Lotus wanted to fit to the E20 in 2012 - the 'reactive ride height' system - that the FIA banned before Lotus could fit it to their car.

7) What was the first F1 car to be fitted with a sequential gearbox?

Answer: Most of you went for the Ferrari 640 - that car featured the first semi-automatic paddle shift system, and I'll admit that my question perhaps should have been more clearly worded. The type of gearbox I was thinking of is called a sequential manual gearbox and is similar to the type fitted to most motorbikes, where the rider must still operate the clutch but can pre-select a gear in advance. The answer I was looking for in this instance was the Lotus 12, which featured this type of transmission.

8) In recent years, we have seen that the brake ducts of cars have been covered in an increasing number of aero devices as a way of clawing back downforce. However, which designer was the first to come up with the idea of an aerodynamic brake duct, and what car was it fitted to? (0.5 points each)

Answer: Most of you thought that this was in the mid 1990's in the post 1994 regulation era. However, the actual answer is a little earlier than that - Ducarouge developed an aerodynamic brake duct for the Lotus 97T, although it was only intermittently used because of the drag penalty and because it disrupted the airflow through the radiators, causing cooling issues. The devices were later banned when the FIA introduced new rules that prevented aero devices next to the front wheels.

9) What was the first car to feature a chassis designed using finite element modelling?

Answer: This one was another tough one - a few of you suggested the Lotus 79 and ataxia the Sauber C16 (given their partnership with CATIA, a specialist in commercial FEM software), although cretoxyrhina was closest timewise with the Williams FW07. The actual answer is the McLaren MP4/1 - Hercules Aerospace, who were responsible for designing the chassis, decided that FEM was the best way to model the forces through the chassis given their lack of prior experience in F1 and the limited knowledge of how a carbon fibre chassis would hold up in a crash.

10) The 1976 season saw a number of technical changes as teams experimented with new aerodynamic components, not to mention the mid season regulation changes that took place. What aerodynamic development did some outside observers criticise Ligier for wasting resources on in 1976?

Answer: Most of you got this question right - it was indeed the high airbox that Ligier used. The main criticism was the fact that Ligier spent a fair amount of their windtunnel budget on developing a very effective high airbox (having been very carefully designed to maximise the ram effect and for the optimal distribution of air to each cylinder) that could only be used in the opening few races, whereas the airbox they used after that was significantly less well developed.

11) How much of Lotus's budget for engines went on developing qualifying spec engines in 1986?

Answer: dinizintheoven was the only one to get this right - 40% of Lotus's budget went on qualifying spec engines, which was the main reason why Lotus had the largest pool of qualifying spec engines and were the first to be given access to the EF15bis qualifying engine that was introduced that year.

12) There are many development that Ferrari might have made in their long career in the sport, but what technical development did Ferrari only make in 1983 with the 126C3 that their rivals had made around 20 years earlier?

Answer: Several of you got this answer right - the carbon fibre chassis of the 126C3 was the first true monocoque that Ferrari had produced for F1. Up until then, Forghieri preferred to use a hybrid system between a monocoque and a spaceframe (i.e. a semi-stressed system where the load bearing 'skin' would be locally supported with load bearing bracing). Having only just switched to using aluminium honeycomb in 1982, the switch to carbon fibre forced Forghieri to develop an entirely new type of chassis design.

13) Recent years have seen the sport dominated by discussions about the use of blown diffusers, but which outfit is generally accredited with having been the first to invent an exhaust blown diffuser, and what was the first car that it was fitted to? (0.5 points each)

Answer: kevinbotz and cretoxyrhina both got this right - the original Renault team were the first to develop it, and it was fitted to the 1983 spec RE40 as a way of recovering some of the loss in downforce after ground effects were banned.


The above image is of the RE50's diffuser, but the principle and design is similar to that of the RE40. Here's a brief article from Craig Scarborough about these early blown diffusers. http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2010/11/11/ex ... -the-past/

14) Following on from that, which two teams were, until Red Bull revised the trick in recent years, the last to switch from blown diffusers to the "periscope" exhausts that were common in the 2000's? (0.5 points each)

Answer: Most tended to get one or the other with this, but only cretoxyrhina found both. The answers I was looking for were Minardi and McLaren, both of whom persisted with conventional blown diffusers until 2001. Both of them were forced to adopt periscope exhausts in 2002 due to engine modifications - the trend for shorter exhausts meant that they couldn't route the exhaust gases through the diffuser anymore.

15) During the 1990's the V10 engine became the engine format of choice for many engine manufacturers, although the weight of the engines remained relatively high for a number of years. Which engine manufacturer was the first to claim to have produced a V10 engine that was under the 100kg mark in the 1990's?

Answer: The most common answers were Mercedes and Renault, but in fact it was neither of them. The answer is in fact the OX11 series engine co-developed by Yamaha and Judd - the launch spec engine, which initially weighed in at 105kg (it was the C spec engine which got down below 100kg), was about 20kg lighter than most of the other engines in use at the time and also the most compact engine too (Renault's V10, for example, officially weighed in at about 130kg). Unfortunately, being a relatively radical design for the time, it lacked the reliability and power of its more established rivals - it did, however, force a lot of their rivals to give weight reduction much more serious attention when the handling benefits were visibly apparent with the Tyrrell 024.

16) Gearbox technology has remained relatively static in recent years, but some new developments have come about due to the use of new materials for the casings. Which outfit was the first to develop a carbon fibre gearbox casing?

Answer: The answer is the Arrows A18 - however, most of the teams to this day still prefer aluminium or, occasionally, titanium cases (bonding carbon fibre to metal - as would be the case with the suspension pick up points on the casing - can be very problematic).

17) With BMW cashing in on the success of their four cylinder turbo engine in the early 1980's, another manufacturer involved in the sport wished to investigate the possibility of a "stock block" derived four cylinder engine in 1984. However, that manufacturer later reverted to a six cylinder design instead - which manufacturer was it?

Answer: dinizintheoven was the only one who spotted the hint in the phrase I used ('stock block' pointing towards a US based manufacturer). Ford intially considered using a derivative of the BDA series cylinder block, used in the RS1800 at the time, as the basis for a turbocharged engine to replace the DFV. However, the initial experimental versions proved to be unreliable and eventually the project was scrapped in favour of a Cosworth designed custom V6 engine. Ferrari were also another manufacturer to develop a four cylinder engine at about the same time - however, they ditched it in favour of a development version of the V6 because they wouldn't be able to use an inline four clyinder engine as a fully stressed member.

18) Who did Matra initially work with to develop their V12 sportscar engine, which was later used in their own works F1 effort, in the late 1960's?

Answer: cretoxyrhina spotted that BRM were their development partner - however, a wave of nationalistic fervour within the French government forced Matra to break the alliance after the government threatened to withdraw funding for the program.

19) We are used to seeing drivers adjusting the brake balance on the cars on track, but which outfit was the first to introduce the technology to F1?

Answer: There is a little uncertainty over this, but it appears that Lotus were the first to introduce this on the Type 79 (it seems that Andretti brought the concept from the US racing scene to Lotus).

20) Speaking of onboard adjustable devices, what other feature were the drivers of the Lotus 79 able to adjust from the cockpit of the car that is now no longer permitted?

Answer: Several of you suggested adjustable ride heights or skirt heights, perhaps thinking of the systems that were in use in 1981 to circumvent the minimum ride height rules. In fact, they were able to adjust the stiffness of the front roll bar - McLaren introduced the system in the mid 1970's, and some cars were equipped with such a feature until the late 1980's (the Arrows A10B being one such example).

The above photo shows the lever to adjust the roll bar.

21) Prior to the 1979 season, Ferrari were carrying out track tests for Michelin at Fiorano with cars that had been modified so they could be equipped with monitoring equipment. What experimental feature was fitted to a 312T3 test hack that was used for the first tyre test session?
Answer: Only kevinbotz got this one - because the cockpit was so congested due to Michelin's equipment, Ferrari equipped the car with an electric clutch - akin to the system Lotus used on the Type 76 - which was operated by two push buttons on the steering wheel. Unfortunately, the system failed almost immediately and in the end Ferrari and Michelin used a conventional 312T4 instead.

22) Which car was the first to be fitted with an active suspension system?

Answer: Again, kevinbotz got the answer for this one - it was the Lotus 92 that Mansell drove in the early part of the 1983 season. However, Mansell found the car difficult to drive and, after two races, the car was converted back to a conventional suspension set up before being ditched altogether in favour of the 93T. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/hi ... nal-years/

23) Ferrari's 2003 car featured a number of developments - what unusual suspension component first made its appearance on the car that season, a solution that was used by Toyota, Midland and Brawn in the early to late 2000's but now appears to have fallen out of use?

Answer: cretoxyrhina got this one - Ferrari were the first to use a rotary damper (i.e instead of dissipating energy in extension, as in a linear damper, energy is dissipated through rotational motion). They were popular for a while as they are much more compact than linear dampers, but they suffer from problems with a non linear response that is difficult to eliminate (a problem that was exacerbated when fuel loads increased when refuelling was banned, which seems to be part of the reason why they have since fallen out of favour). http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2011/11/25/an ... y-dampers/

24) We are used to seeing slick tyres now, but when were slicks first introduced into F1?

Answer: 1970.

25) In response to aero regulation changes in the mid 1990's, what aerodynamic development appeared on Minardi's M195 that later appeared on some of the championship winning Ferrari's of the early 2000's?

Answer: Several of you got this one - Minardi were the first to spot that they could curve the central section of the front wing down in the middle to allow it to run closer to the ground. Ferrari later used this trick on their own cars, possibly as a result of Aldo Costa moving from Minardi to Ferrrari.



26) Which outfit was the first to introduce a seven speed gearbox into F1, and who was it manufactured by (0.5 points each)?

Answer: Again, the Ferrari 640 was a common answer here - in fact, though, the answer is Brabham (on the BT55), with Weismann producing the gearbox. The idea was that, because the BMW engine had a relatively narrow power band, they could spend more time in the right power band with a seven speed gearbox - however, that would be the least of their problems with the car that season.

27) What was unique about the design of the cylinder block of the Hart 415T turbo engine compared to the other turbo engines in use at the time?

Answer: This was again a difficult answer, and only cretoxyrhina got this. The 415T was unique because it was a monoblock - in other words, the cylinder head is cast into the cylinder block rather than being a separate component. The idea behind it is that, because it is an integral unit rather than a separate head and block, that the engine can operate at higher pressure - however, problems with machining the intake valves means it was not adopted by any other manufacturer.


28) In 1981-82, which manufacturer signed a deal to develop a twin turbo V6 engine with Williams only to later be forced into cancelling the deal after a funding row?

Answer: The answer here is Matra - the engine, which was to be called the MS82, was initially based on half of the cylinder block from the MS81 V12 that Ligier used in 1981. However, and not for the first time in their life, the French government withdrew financial support for the project whilst an attempt to secure funding from Peugeot also failed when Peugeot baulked at the projected cost of the project.


29) According to Forghieri, what technological development was initially incorporated into the design for the 312B and the Type 001 engine before being abandoned in 1969?

Answer: Again, nobody got this one - Forghieri claimed in his memoirs that Enzo Ferrari wanted the 312B to be equipped with a four wheel drive system as a response to the perceived threat from the MS84 and Lotus 63. Forghieri disliked the idea considerably, especially since accommodating the transmission system compromised the weight distribution and caused problems with locating the oil pump. In the end Forghieri was able to talk Enzo out of the idea and the 312B was designed as a conventional rear wheel drive car.

30) In 1977, Cosworth experimented with a new material for the DFV in an attempt to significantly lighten the engine. Three engines were constructed with a modified component which reduced the engine weight by 20kg but caused considerable tolerance issues - what was the cause of their problems?

Answer: dinizintheoven, cretoxyrhina and roblomas52 got this one. Cosworth built three experimental engines with magnesium cylinder blocks based off earlier experiments with magnesium alloy blocks for their unraced four wheel drive prototype F1 car. However, the difference in the coefficient of thermal expansion between the steel pistons and the magnesium block meant that the engines had a tendency to seize up if they became too cold. Cosworth soon realised that having to equip all of their trucks and garages with air conditioning units to regulate the temperature was rather impractical given the transport limitations of the day and they scrapped the engines in the end.

[go_Rubens]

Would anyone mind if I created a quiz for other motorsports away from the F1 scene?

[UncreativeUsername37]

Would anyone mind if I created a quiz for other motorsports away from the F1 scene?

We have threads on other motorsports, so it's within our scope.

[go_Rubens]

Would anyone mind if I created a quiz for other motorsports away from the F1 scene?

We have threads on other motorsports, so it's within our scope.

So should I create another thread, or just post here? I'm not planning on posting it immediately, as I have other things to do before my spare time, so let's say it's in planning stage.

[UncreativeUsername37]

Would anyone mind if I created a quiz for other motorsports away from the F1 scene?

We have threads on other motorsports, so it's within our scope.

So should I create another thread, or just post here? I'm not planning on posting it immediately, as I have other things to do before my spare time, so let's say it's in planning stage.

I'd just put it in this thread.

[go_Rubens]

We have threads on other motorsports, so it's within our scope.

So should I create another thread, or just post here? I'm not planning on posting it immediately, as I have other things to do before my spare time, so let's say it's in planning stage.

I'd just put it in this thread.

Alright, I'll get it up as soon as I find time to dedicate myself to some decent quiz questions.

[dinizintheoven]

Ye gods! By my reckoning, that's a massive SEVEN out of 31 in Mario's quiz! SEVEN! That must be enough for row 12 of the grid at least... Andrea Moda at Monaco, you have been usurped! This must be on a par with if Coloni had made it into the race in 1991 - or in 1990 with the Subaru engine! It was that improbable!

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10) The 1976 season saw a number of technical changes as teams experimented with new aerodynamic components, not to mention the mid season regulation changes that took place. What aerodynamic development did some outside observers criticise Ligier for wasting resources on in 1976?
My answer: Given what the 1976 Ligier was most famous for, I'd say it was the attempted aerodynamicisation (is that even a word?) of the huge, periscope airbox that the cars had until that point - which, in Ligier's case, was a rounded, elongated dome. It was a waste of money because it was their first car, wasn't particularly competitive, and the huge airboxes were trimmed off a few races into the season.
Mario's answer: Most of you got this question right - it was indeed the high airbox that Ligier used. The main criticism was the fact that Ligier spent a fair amount of their windtunnel budget on developing a very effective high airbox (having been very carefully designed to maximise the ram effect and for the optimal distribution of air to each cylinder) that could only be used in the opening few races, whereas the airbox they used after that was significantly less well developed.

That was less of a guess and more recollection of all the pictures I've seen of the 1976 season.

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11) How much of Lotus's budget for engines went on developing qualifying spec engines in 1986?
My answer: I assume you mean percentagewise, so I'll go for 40% of the budget, trying to get Senna up front from the start so he could attempt to beat off McLaren and Williams - then, what happened in the race and everything else was made up by the rest of the budget. Bang goes another component.
Mario's answer: dinizintheoven was the only one to get this right - 40% of Lotus's budget went on qualifying spec engines, which was the main reason why Lotus had the largest pool of qualifying spec engines and were the first to be given access to the EF15bis qualifying engine that was introduced that year.

That was getting a dart in the treble 20, in the dark, facing away from the board, throwing over the shoulder with my left hand. Dr Hildegarde Landstrøm's luck virus has served me better than Dave Lister!

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12) There are many development that Ferrari might have made in their long career in the sport, but what technical development did Ferrari only make in 1983 with the 126C3 that their rivals had made around 20 years earlier?
My answer: Ye gods, Enzo really *was* an old stick-in-the-mud, wasn't he? Given Ferrari's attachment to their V12 and flat-12 engines until the turbo era, which would be just fine on a conventional chassis, I'll say 1983 was the first year they made a monocoque chassis. Odd though it sounds.
Mario's answer: Several of you got this answer right - the carbon fibre chassis of the 126C3 was the first true monocoque that Ferrari had produced for F1. Up until then, Forghieri preferred to use a hybrid system between a monocoque and a spaceframe (i.e. a semi-stressed system where the load bearing 'skin' would be locally supported with load bearing bracing). Having only just switched to using aluminium honeycomb in 1982, the switch to carbon fibre forced Forghieri to develop an entirely new type of chassis design.

Call that one an educated guess based on the number of times Enzo had to take a complete thrashing (1960, 1973, 1980...) before he would get with the times. This is an extreme example.

Three questions right in a row, as well...

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17) With BMW cashing in on the success of their four cylinder turbo engine in the early 1980's, another manufacturer involved in the sport wished to investigate the possibility of a "stock block" derived four cylinder engine in 1984. However, that manufacturer later reverted to a six cylinder design instead - which manufacturer was it?
My answer: "Stock block" is such an American term and an American way of thinking that it must be Ford, with the result being the V6 turbo as used to very little effect by Haas-Lola in 1986 and to more effect by Benetton in 1987.
Mario's answer: dinizintheoven was the only one who spotted the hint in the phrase I used ('stock block' pointing towards a US based manufacturer). Ford intially considered using a derivative of the BDA series cylinder block, used in the RS1800 at the time, as the basis for a turbocharged engine to replace the DFV. However, the initial experimental versions proved to be unreliable and eventually the project was scrapped in favour of a Cosworth designed custom V6 engine. Ferrari were also another manufacturer to develop a four cylinder engine at about the same time - however, they ditched it in favour of a development version of the V6 because they wouldn't be able to use an inline four clyinder engine as a fully stressed member.

Cheers to whoever it was who mentioned "stock block" in one of the other forums (Wallio, maybe?) for making me think of American racing.

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22) Which car was the first to be fitted with an active suspension system?
My answer: I think it was tried on an early 80s Lotus, way before the all-conquering Williams of the early 90s that Our Nige said a puppet could drive. Shot in the dark, the Lotus 92 - following shortly after the exclusion of the 88.
Mario's answer: Again, kevinbotz got the answer for this one - it was the Lotus 92 that Mansell drove in the early part of the 1983 season. However, Mansell found the car difficult to drive and, after two races, the car was converted back to a conventional suspension set up before being ditched altogether in favour of the 93T. http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/hi ... nal-years/

Another dart in the treble 20! Sure, I was facing the board this time (I just about remember hearing some mention of active suspension on a 1980s season review video) but was still in the dark - it could have been any Lotus from the 91 to the 97T, and I just happened to pick the right one... I should have played the lottery after filling this in, I'd have won a tenner at least!

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25) In response to aero regulation changes in the mid 1990's, what aerodynamic development appeared on Minardi's M195 that later appeared on some of the championship winning Ferrari's of the early 2000's?
My answer: Not sure whether it was the M195 or the M196 that had that gaping triangular hole when the front of the nose should have been (something like an extreme development of Tyrrell's 1990 car) but I'll bet it involved a dropped-down section in the middle of the front wing. At least, that's what I remember of a mid-90s Minardi...
Mario's answer: Several of you got this one - Minardi were the first to spot that they could curve the central section of the front wing down in the middle to allow it to run closer to the ground. Ferrari later used this trick on their own cars, possibly as a result of Aldo Costa moving from Minardi to Ferrrari.

Wallop. That nose section always drew my attention, so much that I still remember it now.

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30) In 1977, Cosworth experimented with a new material for the DFV in an attempt to significantly lighten the engine. Three engines were constructed with a modified component which reduced the engine weight by 20kg but caused considerable tolerance issues - what was the cause of their problems?
My answer: Got to be heat issues, hasn't it, in an engine - the "tolerance problems" were the heat of the engine causing whatever component it was to expand and jam somewhere it shouldn't have jammed if the heavier material had been used.
Mario's answer: dinizintheoven, cretoxyrhina and roblomas52 got this one. Cosworth built three experimental engines with magnesium cylinder blocks based off earlier experiments with magnesium alloy blocks for their unraced four wheel drive prototype F1 car. However, the difference in the coefficient of thermal expansion between the steel pistons and the magnesium block meant that the engines had a tendency to seize up if they became too cold. Cosworth soon realised that having to equip all of their trucks and garages with air conditioning units to regulate the temperature was rather impractical given the transport limitations of the day and they scrapped the engines in the end.

GCSE physics, that one.

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Still absolutely chuffed with number 11 now. I could have broken my way into Fort Knox with that much luck virus!

How did everyone else do?

[roblo97]

How did I do? The only one I got right was the last one

[Ataxia]

Mario ended up with a lot of joke answers on my part...

[go_Rubens]

Okay, now for the F1 Rejects Other Motorsports Quiz! (maybe overloaded with endurance racing stuff though)

1. Since the inception of the NASCAR Chase for the Sprint Cup, how many allegations of cheating have occured at Richmond?
2. How many laps did the Aston Martin AMR-One complete in the 24 Heures du Mans?
3. In the 2011 24 Heures du Mans, the record of most amount of time under safety car was achieved until 2013. During the safety car period as a result of Mike Rockenfeller's accident, what happened to the safety cars that never happened before or since?
4. Marc Marquez is a deserving MotoGP champion, but some say that he won through other's misfortunes. Name the misfortunes that befell Jorge Lorenzo and Dani Pedrosa, his main challengers. (0.33 points per correct answer)
5.In BTCC, Gordon Shedden had a piece of his car hanging off to the side, and drove off track and into a barrier to get the piece off the car, which he succeeded in doing. Which race was this at, and what part of the car was it?
6. The record for most lead changes in the Indy 500 was broken in 2012, breaking the record from 1960. The record was broken again in 2013. How many lead changes were there in the 1960, 2012, and 2013 events combined?
7. In the 2011 Rolex Sports Car series race at Road America, what technical problem occured to the 07 car driven by Gunter Schaldach and what did the problem cause? (0.5 points per correct answer)
8. What was the blunder that hurt the WRC between 1994 and 1996?
9. How did Carlos Sainz lose the 1999 WRC season?
10. In the 1960 running of the 24 Heures du Mans, a Chevrolet Corvette was driven at Le Mans for the first time. But, the only remaining car had a problem in the final hour. The engine kept constantly overheating. How did the team overcome the issue, and what happened to the engine after the finish line? (0.5 points per correct answer)
11. Why was the Nürburgring 24 Hours delayed by 8 hours in 2013?
12. In 2011, Aston Martin trashed the hopeless AMR-One for their old car to compete in endurance racing. At which two races did the factory Lola-Aston Martin B09/60 score podium finishes at? (0.5 points per correct answer)
13. The 2013 ALMS Baltimore Grand Prix saw a demolition derby. Which LMP2 team got a 1-2 overall ahead of the LMP1s, and who was driving the winning car? (0.33 points per correct answer)
14. In V8 Supercars, which company replaced Vodafone as the title sponsor of Triple 8 racing?
15. What happened to the DTM qualifying session last year in Moscow?
16. The race before the Moscow DTM race saw no winner of the Norisring race. Why was this the case?
17. In the 2012 Rolex 24 at Daytona, which 2 drivers had an "epic" battle for the lead which included going 4 wide with GT cars and quite a bit if rubbing?
18. Why did the proposed WTCC race in Brazil for 2013 never happen?
19. Markus Winkelhock was denied victory at the Rolex 24 in 2013 when leading GT with a lap to go when...
20. In the 1985 Le Mans 24 Hours, which 2 privateer outfits finished 1st and 2nd with Porsche 956Bs laps ahead of the 1st factory Porsche 962?
21. What was the biggest pileup in NASCAR history?
22. How did Andy Neate ruin the races of quite a few drivers at Brands Hatch in 2012?
23. Why was the CART race at Texas Motor Speedway in 2001 cancelled?
24. Before JR Hildebrand crashed out of the lead at the Indy 500 in 2011 as a rookie driver, who was mentioned as the most recent rookie to win the Indy 500?
25. Who inspired Yves Courage to found a privateer outfit and build his own race cars?
26. Sebastién Loeb is known for his success in WRC, but name any 2 races on tarmac where he finished on the podium (0.5 points per any correct answer)
27. When was the last ChampCar race?
28. Why did Mike Conway vow to stop racing on ovals in IndyCar for good?
29. What special cars were run at the Indy 500 in 1952? (0.5 points per correct answer)
30. How many points has Gabriele Tarquini scored in BTCC and WTCC combined?

Please PM your answers. Thank you.

[go_Rubens]

Please send in your answers before next Sunday. With that, I will post the current standings.

Current Standings

pi314159 12.16
Salamander 12
roblomas52 10.5
watka 8
tommykl 7.5
AdrianSutil 7.41
UgncreativeUsergname 3.16

Proving harder than I thought, but then again, the quiz maker knows all the answers, which makes the quiz easy from his point of view.

[UncreativeUsername37]

I only knew two answers, so I just filled my list with jokes.

[mario]

Mario ended up with a lot of joke answers on my part...

Not as many as came from some other quarters - I was half tempted to post some of the more peculiar answers that I received (and probably will).

Ye gods! By my reckoning, that's a massive SEVEN out of 31 in Mario's quiz! SEVEN! That must be enough for row 12 of the grid at least... Andrea Moda at Monaco, you have been usurped! This must be on a par with if Coloni had made it into the race in 1991 - or in 1990 with the Subaru engine! It was that improbable!

Told you that you had done better than you believed - and you have indeed managed, just about, to get into double figures between my quiz and the one that came before it, something that you thought you wouldn't be able to achieve.

How did I do? The only one I got right was the last one

Sorry, I've been meaning to post the scores for the quiz only to be sidetracked more often than not - they will be posted soon enough though.

[Edit] OK, the scores that I have are as follows
tommykl - 3.0
ataxia - 2.5
pasta_maldonado - 0 (but certainly putting effort in when it came to more bizarre answers)
dinizintheoven - 7.0
kevinbotz - 9.0
cretoxyrhina - 12.0
roblomas52 - 1.5 (you were half right when it came to question 14, hence the half mark).

[mario]

go_Rubens, with your quiz question on the AMR-One - I presume that your question about how many laps the car was able to complete at Le Mans would be for the race itself, therefore excluding the practise and qualifying sessions? Or are you talking about the entire event?

[go_Rubens]

mario, it's just for the race itself, not practice or qualifying.

[mario]

mario, it's just for the race itself, not practice or qualifying.

OK then - although I might give this a miss, I thought it best to clarify whether or not you were including all of the sessions or only the race itself (the latter being what I assumed you were referring to, but that wasn't entirely clear in your original post).

[go_Rubens]

mario, it's just for the race itself, not practice or qualifying.

OK then - although I might give this a miss, I thought it best to clarify whether or not you were including all of the sessions or only the race itself (the latter being what I assumed you were referring to, but that wasn't entirely clear in your original post).

Yeah, I didn't quite think that through with clarity. I guess I assumed that since the car mentioned did so poorly at Le Mans that the guys here would guess the number that classifies the AMR-One as a reject

[pi314159]

Nice quiz, go_Rubens, I sent my answers. As a big endurance racing fan, I won't complain about all the endurance racing questions. Actually, I'd like to see a quiz only about endurance racing in the future.

[watka]

9 is not bad for me seeing as I only knew 4 or 5 for sure.

[go_Rubens]

9 is not bad for me seeing as I only knew 4 or 5 for sure.

Unfortunately, I accidentally cocked up one of the answers in my head, so one of the ones you got right unfortunately will be docked as a result of my own failure. Don't worry, 8 is good for only knowing 4 or 5 though. So that'll shuffle uo the scores a tiny bit.

Yeah, the quiz wasn't meant to be easy, and that's on me as well

[go_Rubens]

And with 7 entrants, this quiz is over just before the preseason F1 tests! I'll post answers when I have time in similar fashion to what tommykl did with the 1950s quiz. Thank you for participating.

[tommykl]

I'll give it a week before posting the answer to the quotes quiz. Participation is appreciated, since four attempts is a bit low. I mean, even Mario's technical quiz got more attempts

[UncreativeUsername37]

THE AUSTRALIA QUIZ
Featuring questions you have a chance at!

AUSTRALIAN CHAMPIONSHIPS
1. Who won the 2013 Australian Formula Ford Championship?
2. When was the first Australian Touring Car Championship?
3. Besides Ford and Holden, what make has won the most ATCC/V8 Supercar drivers' championships?
4. When was the last year the ATCC used Appendix J cars?
5. Who won four straight Australian Drivers' Championships in the 1960s?
6. Who won four straight in the 1980s?

AUSTRALIAN TRACKS
7. IndyCar/CART went to it in the nineties.
8. This V8 Supercar track officially has six turns.
9. What are the first two corners of Albert Park named?
10. The shorter layout of Adelaide uses what street as its shortcut?
11. When was The Chase added to Mount Panorama?
12. Who has the lap record for Amaroo Park?

AUSTRALIAN TEAMS
13. Not Triple Eight, Triple _, another V8 Supercar team.
14. They were Huub Rothengatter's team for most of his European Formula Two career.
15. Which team won the National Class of the 2013 Australian Formula 3 Championship?
16. Only one Australian constructor has competed in F1. Name it.
17. They won four races in the 1969 Tasman Series season.
18. Name any three drivers who drove for Australia in A1GP.

AUSTRALIAN DRIVERS
19. We all know David Brabham raced in 1994 for Simtek, but he raced in what other year for what other team? (.25 for one)
20. In what four years did an Australian driver win the F1 championship? (.5 points for three correct, .25 for two, .125 for one)
21. Who was Australia's first championship F1 driver?
22. Name both Australian drivers to race in the 1957 German Grand Prix. (0 points for the obvious one)
23. Who are the four Australian drivers to take an F1 podium? (0 points for the obvious three)
24. This Australian driver's F1 effort consisted of a single DNPQ in 1977. (.75 points for not answering Jeopardy-style)

AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX
25. The first Australian Grand Prix was held in what year?
26. The first championship Australian Grand Prix was held in what year?
27. Who was won the most championship Australian Grands Prix?
28. Who has won the most non-championship Australian Grands Prix?
29. What team has won the most Australian Grands Prix?
30. When has the Australian Grand Prix been on the schedule and not first or last?

The funniest answer in each section gets one point.

[tommykl]

Alright then, I guess I should post the answers to the quotes quiz, seeing as no one else wants to try it...

1. “You seem to have forgotten the chassis in this one, (name)!” Who was it said to? What is it about? (0.33 points per correct answer)
This one was about the Lotus 25, the first monocoque-laden F1 car. It was a witty remark made to Colin Chapman by John Cooper at the 25's début race. The quote is sometimes attributed to Rob Walker, who received the spaceframe 24 instead.

2. “Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls.”
Stirling Moss. No further information relating to the context...

3. “It is amazing how many drivers, even at the Formula One Level, think that the brakes are for slowing the car down.”
Mario Andretti.

4. “If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower.”
A classy quote from Mark Donohue from his Can-Am days.

5. “When I raced a car last it was at a time when sex was safe and racing was dangerous. Now, it’s the other way round.”
The quote itself is well-known. The man who said it, less so. It's Hans Joachim Stuck.

6. “When I started racing my father told me, ‘(name), nobody has three balls but some people have two very good ones.”
SuperAguri answered Juan Pablo Montoya, but it was in fact another South American CART champion, namely Cristiano da Matta.

7. “The best way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a large one”
Another well-known quote that is often left without an origin. This one actually comes from gentleman team owner Briggs Cunningham.

8. “Ferrari’s arse is mine.”
Carroll Shelby upon entering the Cobras at Le Mans.

9. “This is beautiful. When do we get ours?” Who was it said to? What is it about? (0.33 points per correct answer)
Another one about the Lotus 25 told to Colin Chapman. This time, it's BRP-era Innes Ireland. When told that the 25 was for the works team only, the Scotsman was reportedly not very pleased...

10. “My cars win races, my drivers lose them”
This could only be from Il Commendatore himself, Enzo Ferrari.

11. “That's the kind of entertainment I want to give the crowds. Smoke the tyres! Yeah!”
This one from noted looney Gilles Villeneuve.

12. “It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.”
A brilliant piece of advice from actor/driver Paul Newman.

13. “You know you're in trouble when the first person to get to you after a wreck is carrying a beer”
An America-specific quote from NASCAR and ARCA driver Jimmy Horton, who presumably experienced such an accident himself.

14. “Christ - I used to complain that this thing was underpowered, I must have been mad” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
This one was from Chris Amon, who stepped back into a 60s-spec Ferrari at Goodwood a few years back.

15. “Are you here to race or to crash?”
This was one from Chico Landi as a race director. In the 1980s, when some drivers complained about a lack of safety at Jacarepagua in case of a crash, Landi responded with this piece of vintage 1950s wisdom.

16. “The little Mexican bastard tried to kill me!” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)
This one was from the usually calm Jo Siffert about Pedro Rodriguez.

17. “I think (name) is sh***ing his pants and mixing up those feelings.” Who is it about? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
A classy response by Mika Häkkinen about Jean Alesi, who compared taking Eau Rouge flat out to an orgasm.

18. “Today I want to be eleventh” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
This was a sarcastic response by Nelson Piquet when asked if he was aiming for pole position...

19. “We thought we would give you something heavy to throw at us” Who was it said to? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
This was a classic example of wit from Ron Dennis, uttered when presenting Fernando Alonso with a trophy mid-2007.

20. “Everything was fantastic today. Had a problem with the engine, problem with the brakes, problem with the T-car, couldn't get a clear lap... Everything was fine!”
Thierry Boutsen on a particularly difficult weekend in Monaco.

21. “Its not good. It doesn't turn, it doesn't stop, no traction... Apart from that, its great, having lots of fun!”
A similar quote from David Coulthard on the team radio at one point in his Red Bull career.

22. “He's already an old man and he's still mad!” Who is it about? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
This one was in 1989. Gerhard Berger was missing the Monaco Grand Prix, still injured from his infamous Imola accident. After qualifying, he was asked who had impressed him the most. His choice was 35-year-old Derek Warwick for reasons described above (Warwick had just qualified sixth in the Arrows).

23. “Well, we've obviously chosen him because he's got a quite sensational-looking girlfriend...” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)
Frank Williams explains his choice of David Coulthard to replace Ayrton Senna in 1994.

24. “It's amazing how you can drive a F1 car with no hands when you've just won a Grand Prix.”
A celebratory quote from Nigel Mansell.

25. “He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I've got a hole in my arse.” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)
Peter Warr upon the departure of the aforementioned Nigel Mansell from Lotus in 1984.

26. “If Michael does a victory leap on the podium, I'm gonna march there and punch him.” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
This one was by Martin Brundle following the 2005 Indianapolis fiasco.

27. “I've never seen (name)'s eyes as wide as that... tell a lie; in the West End of London at about 2 in the morning.” Who is it about? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
This one's from the always classy Mark Blundell about the look on Martin Brundle's face after driving the Jaguar F1 car in Central London in 2004.

28. “No problem. Which circuit am I at?” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
Martin Brundle again, at the 1984 Monaco Grand Prix, having just badly crashed in qualifying and going out once more. He was obviously quite a bit shaken by the ordeal...

29. “Do I win Rookie of the Year?” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
I actually posted this one earlier in the Trivia thread... It's A.J. Foyt upon winning Le Mans in 1967 in his first participation.

30. “He builds fast trucks.” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)
A dismissal of W.O. Bentley and Bentley as a whole by the very Italian Ettore Bugatti.

[roblo97]

15. “Are you here to race or to crash?”
This was one from Chico Landi as a race director. In the 1980s, when some drivers complained about a lack of safety at Jacarepagua in case of a crash, Landi responded with this piece of vintage 1950s wisdom.

I always thought Landi was refering to Interlagos in that quote regarding the lack of run off, notably at turn 3 which the cars would have approached after 20+ second of flat out running.

[tommykl]

15. “Are you here to race or to crash?”
This was one from Chico Landi as a race director. In the 1980s, when some drivers complained about a lack of safety at Jacarepagua in case of a crash, Landi responded with this piece of vintage 1950s wisdom.

I always thought Landi was refering to Interlagos in that quote regarding the lack of run off, notably at turn 3 which the cars would have approached after 20+ second of flat out running.

That's possible, I don't remember the whole thing...

[dinizintheoven]

I just checked this thread. I scored three and a third, and one of those points was made of two halves.

DNPQ!

[tommykl]

I thought it was time to revive this.
tommykl's much-feared Formula One trivia quiz - part Trois: miscellaneous tidbits
1. Which circuit held the Formula One Grand Prix with the most laps (except Indianapolis), and how many laps were there in the race? (0.5 points per correct answer)
2. Which 1970's team did noted reject Keith Greene manage?
3. Which reject was the first European to compete in NASCAR, and what was the name of the Formula One car he built? (0.5 points per correct answer)
4. Who were the first three non-fictional drivers to be in mentioned in the very first Michel Vaillant comic in 1958? (0.33 points per correct answer)
5. Which driver holds the unfortunate distinction of being the only man to die on the day of a Grand Prix he was entered for in circumstances other than a racing accident? And which Grand Prix was he entered for? (0.5 points per correct answer)
6. Of every Formula One constructor who has started a race (not counting any constructor who DNDq every time or qualified but couldn't make the start), which one covered the smallest race distance, at which Grand Prix, and who was driving the car? (0.33 points per correct answer)
7. Which Formula One driver is credited with the first application of a wing in a competitive motorsport context other than a speed record attempt, and in what year? For which Formula One team did he later work and presumably influence the design of their first F1 wing? (0.33 points per correct answer)
8. Similarly, which Formula One driver, inspired by winged sportscars, first had the idea of attaching a full-blown wing to a Formula On car? Where and when did this occur? What did he use to make the wing? (0.25 points per correct answer)
9. Which Grand Prix was the first to hold a prequalifying session?
10. Where did the name of the Camoradi International team come from?
11. On a similar note, who gave the amusingly named BS Fabrications team its name?
12. Which driver holds the record for race entries with the most different constructors, and can you name all of these constructors? (0.07 points per correct answer)
13. Why is the name of the entrant of Leslie Johnson's ERA in the 1950 British Grand Prix disputed?
14. What was unusual about the race format of the 1959 German Grand Prix?
15. On which previous chassis design was the Forti FG01 based?
16. Which non-championship Grand Prix's organisers first triggered the change from F1 to F2 for the 1952 season, and which championship Grand Prix was the first to announce its own switch to Formula 2 (something which all championship GPs eventually did)? (0.5 points per correct answer)
17. Everyone knows about saftey car driver and reject Eppie Wietzes famously picking up the wrong car in its first use, the 1973 Canadian Grand Prix. But who did Wietzes mistakenly pick up?
18. How did Swedish driver/drummer Karl Borgudd acquire the nickname "Slim", and how did this nickname cause him problems later on in his career? (0.5 points per correct answer)
19. Which driver once represented his country in tennis' Davis Cup?
20. Name the two reasons why Emilio de Villota's entry in the 1981 Spanish Grand Prix was cancelled. (0.5 points per correct answer)
21. Name the four drivers who made their début in the 1989 French Grand Prix. (0.25 points per correct answer)
22. The 1955 British Grand Prix is well-known for being the scene of Stirling Moss' maiden victory ahead of Fangio, but who finished third?
23. Name the 7 Formula One drivers who also competed in the Olympic Games (not Paralympic). (0.14 points per correct answer)
24. Which controversial insurance broker turned racing driver was later implicated in a child pornography scandal, causing him to emigrate to Thailand?
25. Who was the first Swedish driver to enter a championship Grand Prix?
26. When did the final shared drive in Formula One occur, and which drivers were involved? (0.33 points per correct answer)
27. Which German-born driver's autobiography is titled "Blood, Sweat and Turnips"?
28. Which Formula One driver was introduced to motorsport as an interpreter for drivers?
29. Which notable reject is best known for being the last person to have spoken with James Dean before his death?
30. Which driver retired from motor racing by accident when he forgot to renew his competitive licence?

Once again, you must send your answers via PM (the small letter under my username).

[dinizintheoven]

Woohoo! I'll have a go at this, and I know at least one of the answers.

[FullMetalJack]

Woohoo! I'll have a go at this, and I know at least one of the answers.

I know only one of the answers

[tommykl]

Standings so far
1. Simtek - 19.76/30 (I strongly suspect the use of Wikipedia for a few answers, but I'll let it slide )
2. SuperAguri - 10.82
3. Phoenix - 8.82/30
4. pi314159 - 5.66/30
5. Ataxia - 4.97/30
6. yannicksamlad - 3.78/30
7. peteroli34 - 3.75/30
8. Miguel98 - 3.57/30
9. dinizintheoven - 3.33/30
10. pasta_maldonado - 2.08/30
11. AxelP800 - 1.92/30
12. dr-baker - 1.82/30
13. Salamander - 0.58/30

[pi314159]

Unraced F1 cars and teams that never appeared

1) Name the three drivers that tested Dome's F1 car.
2) For which reason did the MSM car not run in an F1 championship race?
3) Who was the founder of FIRST?
4) Which W12 engine was tested in an AGS in 1987?
5) The grandfahther of which current F1 driver would have started an F1 race, if the car had not been withdrawn prior to the race, and which car was it?
6) Which constructor had no less than four failed F1 projects within seven years, one of which later became an uncompetetive F3000 car?
7) Who was supposed to drive for Phoenix in 2002, if they had got an F1 license?
8) Whose death resulted in the end for the Bravo project?
9) Who tried to enter F1 in 1998 with old Lolas?
10) Which team was rumoured to merge with DAMS in early 1995?
11) Which unraced F1 car was planned to have two engines?
12) What was special about Alfa Romeo's planned 160 design?
13) Which Argentine project was entered for two Grand Prix, but never showed up due to their own engines being fragile and down on power?
14) Which engine manufacturer tried to build a chassis, but ended up with a boxy 4WD car that didn't even resemble a then modern F1 car?
15) Which never-raced car is considered one of Adrian Newey's biggest failures?
16) Which F1 car was built by Sebastien Buemi's grandfather and great-uncle, and at which non-championship GP was it entered?
17) Why did the Lola T95/30 not have an airbox?
18) Which Czech car was planned to enter the 1949 Czechoslovakian GP, but didn't start after colliding with a truck in practice?
19) Which team built an even more unusual six-wheeler, with four rear wheels on a single axle?
20) Who tried to enter F1 in 1987 with a customer Benetton.
21) Which engine supplier was tested as an alternative to Supertec by Arrows in 2000?
22) Which Japanese car was built but never raced, as Willi Kauhsen decided to build his own car?
23) Which car was never intended to race in F1, but was a concept for increased driver safety in Formula 1?
24) Which engine never appeared in an F1 race after heavy criticism by Rene Arnoux during testing?
25) Which team designed a ground-effect car in 1969, which was never built?

[dr-baker]

Just submitted answers for tommykl and Pi's quizzes.

[tommykl]

Right, because Phoenix revealed the answer to question 19 on the chatroom, all points for that question have been taken away (affecting only Phoenix himself and Simtek). To keep things fair, the question (originally "Which driver once resorted to a full-page advertisement in a newspaper to attract personal sponsorship?", the answer to which was Huub Rothengatter) has been replaced, and is now "Which driver once represented his country in tennis' Davis Cup?".

If you've already sent your answers, you can send a new answer for question 19 and only question 19.

[tommykl]

And here are the answers!
1. Which circuit held the Formula One Grand Prix with the most laps (except Indianapolis), and how many laps were there in the race? (0.5 points per correct answer)

I'm gonna go for the old old old Silverstone when it was the perimeter of an airfield. Something like 100 laps one year?

Hmmm. There are a few circuits that I can think of that I'm sure are tiny (Nivelles? The old Zeltweg?) but I'll bet it's a curve ball - not a short track, just one of the races in the 1950s (look who's writing this quiz after all!) when rules were a bit less restrictive. I reckon it's Monaco in... for the same of argument, 1950, and I'll go for 120 laps. Wrong, obviously...

Monaco, 100 laps

Monaco; 100

The only race that comes to mind is Monaco, which used to be contested over 100 laps until they changed it at some point for some reason.

Monaco? 100 laps. Then again, some obscure Baron probably organised a 500 lap race around his fat wife in 1952 to F1 regs that I've never heard of...

Monaco in the 1950s, 100 laps

I remember that the 1964 Austraian GP was the shortest grand prix circuit and i seem to remember it had 105 laps?

1969 United States Grand Prix, Watkins Glen, 108 laps

Watkins Glen, 110 Laps

Watkins Glen, 110 laps.

Original Wakins Glen layout - 110 laps in 1963 and 1965.

Monaco would have been too easy. Zeltweg was closer, with 105 laps, but the answer was indeed the old Watkins Glen layout, with 110 laps from 1963 to 1965. The races were roughly 400km long and the circuit 3.7km long.

2. Which 1970's team did noted reject Keith Greene manage?

Keith

Maki. Which makes no sense. But hey, it's not like I know any of these...

Brabham

Bathplug knows, I know he is British so that cuts down the number of teams... I'll go with BRM

I dunno...Token?

No idea. Token?

Not a clue. Token?

Trojab

Hell if I know. I'm gonna randomly guess Trojan.

Ecurie Evergreen

Interestingly, a few people wrongly guessed Token, for some reason. Miguel98 got close with Evergreen, which was run by Alain de Cadenet. Greene ran Evergreen at le Mans later in the decade, but in Formula One, it was Goldie Hexagon Racing in 1974, as Greene worked for Hexagon of Highgate at the time.

3. Which reject was the first European to compete in NASCAR, and what was the name of the Formula One car he built? (0.5 points per correct answer)

errr

Bugger knows, Guillaume de Robere la troisième Jr driving the Turbo Terrific.

Jean Max, who produced a car called the Maaaaaaaaax Power! He's the man with the name you'd love to touch...but you mustn't touch! His name sounds good in your ear, but when you hear it, you mustn't fear! Because his name can be said...by anyone! In truth, I don't know.

Joachim Winklehock.

Moss?

So a European who was a reject and built his own F1 car? Clearly not Amon, Hill, Surtees, Brabham or McLaren then. For want of a better answer, Dan Gurney. But then, he’s neither European nor a reject.

Not a clue. I'll say Desmond Titterington, in a Titter-Ye-Not Maserati Frankie Howerd Special.

He's British, but I don't know his name.. I guess he probably built a car in the 70's, so I'll guess... Parnelli

I vaguely remember a Jaguar once winning a NASCAR race, but for some reason I doubt that's relevant... the first European I know of to compete in NASCAR was Jim Clark, and I know that's wrong because he did 1 race for Holman-Moody (I think) and never did another... can I get a sympathy point
for that?

This one was definitely not easy. The answer was actually Brian Naylor, who finished 42nd in the 1961 Daytona 500. At the same time, he entered his JBW to select F1 races.

4. Who were the first three non-fictional drivers to be in mentioned in the very first Michel Vaillant comic in 1958? (0.33 points per correct answer)

Bloody hell, I've no idea! Er, so '58...Stirling Moss? Gut tells me Harry Schell and Jean Behra too, but I'm probably wrong

Stirling Moss, Jean Behra, Maurice Tringnitant

Don’t know for certain, but Graham Hill, Lucien Bianchi, Louis Chiron?

Juan Manuel Fangio, Alberto Ascari, Jose Froilan Gonzalez, Geoff Richardson... Michael Schumacher?

Fangio, Moss, Clark

Fangio, Moss, Tritignat?

Just a guess, but Fangio, Trintignant and Behra?

Juan Manuel Fangio, Maurice Trintignant and Jean Behra.

Oh you had to stick in a bloody Michel Vaillant question, didn't you. I've never read it, so... Fangio, Hawthorn, and Moss I guess?

Mike Hawthorn, J-M Fangio, Stirling Moss

In the 1950s? I'll say Fangio, Moss and the Pampas Bull, likely as not.

Most correctly guessed Fangio, but no one got the other two, which were Sam Hanks and Pat Flaherty. Context: Europe and America were each to send a driver to compete head-to-head over various races throughout the season. The challenge came from a quip by Juan Manuel Fangio, and the Europeans expected an Indy ace like Flaherty or Hanks to be sent. Instead, they sent Steve Warson, and the rest is history.

5. Which driver holds the unfortunate distinction of being the only man to die on the day of a Grand Prix he was entered for in circumstances other than a racing accident? And which Grand Prix was he entered for? (0.5 points per correct answer)

err

Pffffft, I'm bathplugged if I know!

No clue whatsoever.

Can’t even have a sensible guess at this.

Not even touching this one with a barge pole, as all those who died during their racing career I can think of were all killed on track.

I haven't a clue. Probably someone no one has ever heard of. John Smith, the son of a farmer in Essex, purchased a ERA off some geezer down the market. Happy as pigs in mud, he enters himself for the 1950 British GP. On the way to the race on Sunday, a herd of cows suddenly broke free from
their field along the road he was travelling along, and congregated in the middle. The cows gave a moo, John gave a shriek as he swerved to avoid the livestock blocking his path. Alas, he could not swerve to avoid the tree.

I'll say... Manny Ayulo

Jean Behra, 1959 German GP (lol , but RIP)

Carl Scarborough, 1953 Indianapolis 500.

Ray Reed, entered for the 1965 South African GP, died in a plane crash.

I going to hazard a guess that it is Reed (my mothers maiden name) who was a Rhodesian driver was killed in a plane crash before the GP mentioned in question 9.

I briefly considered counting Scarborough, but his heat stroke was directly related to the race. The answer was indeed Ray Reed, killed in an airplane crash on New Years' Day 1965 on his way to the South African Grand Prix.

6. Of every Formula One constructor who has started a race (not counting any constructor who DNDq every time or qualified but couldn't make the start), which one covered the smallest race distance, at which Grand Prix, and who was driving the car? (0.33 points per correct answer)

Dunno, dunno, dunno

Again, no idea.

Maki.

Andrea Moda, with Roberto Moreno

Andrea Moda, Roberto Moreno? Monaco 1992, 20-22 laps

How do you expect anyone to know any of these offhand? The only logical answer I can come up with is Andrea Moda - where Roberto Moreno qualified just the once, at Monaco in 1992 and drove about 14-15 laps or so. But there must have been one that qualified just the once and retired on the
first lap - or the first corner, like Marco Apicella...

Andrea Moda - 1992 Monaco Grand Prix - Roberto Moreno (total distance of 11 laps)

Connew Austria 1973, F Migault

I know Trevor Taylor drove. However, I don't know when and I don't know where...

I link this to Forti but it was Shannon, who broke down on the first lap. I think at the 1969 British GP? Who drove it? Erm... Miles?

Shannon, which entered one car driven by Trevor Taylor for the 1966 British GP, with the car failing on the first lap.

Andrea Moda and Connew were reasonable guesses, but the correct answer was indeed the short-lived Shannon team, who entered the 1966 British GP. The car's fuel tank emptied itself on the first lap, and the team never turned up again. The car was driven by Trevor Taylor, his final F1 entry.

7. Which Formula One driver is credited with the first application of a wing in a competitive motorsport context other than a speed record attempt, and in what year? For which Formula One team did he later work and presumably influence the design of their first F1 wing? (0.33 points per correct answer)

This is almost definately wrong, but, err, Dan Gurney?

Denny Hulme, 1967 Belgian GP

Dan Gurney, McLaren. The year? 1966.

Bruce McLaren,1965, Mclaren

Jim Clark, 1965?

Jim Hall, 1964, Lotus.

I'll at least have a shot at the year. Lotus sprouted wings in 1968 (to howls of "what the bloody hell is that thing"), so I'll so with 1966. The driver was... let's say Chris Amon, at March - who wasn't driving the 711 with the tea-tray wing on the front, but he did end up with his own team so
maybe he dabbled in car design at the time and left when he knew it wouldn't work...

Mike Spence? I know he drove that Chaparral thing...

I remember that Chaparral used wings on their sports cars, I would hazzard a guess at 1967. Dan Guerney with Eagle?

Jim Hall with the Chaparral 2A in 1963. Don't know about the team but I'm guessing it was Eagle?

Chapman

No one found this one, although Chapman was a clever guess. It actually happened as early as 1956. Swiss engineering student and future F1 driver Michael May turned up to a sportscar race at the Nürburgring in a Porsche 550 mounted with an adjustable wing in its middle. Immediately competitive, it got banned following complaints from the Porsche works team. Porsche never thought to use the design again, even when May worked for them as an engine designer later on. May then moved to Ferrari, where a conversation with Mauro Forghieri allegedly inspired the engineer to add wings to the 1968 Ferrari.

8. Similarly, which Formula One driver, inspired by winged sportscars, first had the idea of attaching a full-blown wing to a Formula On car? Where and when did this occur? What did he use to make the wing? (0.25 points per correct answer)

Dunno^4

Or is this the question where I should answer Dan Gurney?

Bruce McLaren, 1965,err, err

Bruce McLaren, alluminion foil

Bruce McLaren. Probably. Sometime in 1969.

Again Dan Guerney, Eagle, 1968, Monaco GP?

Probably Graham Hill, dunno where or when, but I'd imagine it was made from aluminium...

I reckon we're back to Lotus in 1968, so I'll say Graham Hill, and it'll have been made very quickly out of plywood. Where? Bollocks only knows. A test at Snetterton...?

Colin Chapman had a wing fitted to Graham Hill's Lotus at Monaco 1968 and I'm guessing the material was plywood?

Jim Clark, 1965, Silverstone, Plywood

A lot of you correctly guessed 1968, but only one guessed Jim Clark, who had the idea just before a Tasman Cup race at Teretonga. Inspired by the pace of Jim Hall's Chaparral sportscars, Clark wanted to fit a rear wing on his Lotus, but due to a lack of materials, he and his mechanics instead made a makeshift wing from a spare helicopter rotor. Clark finished second and later took the idea to Colin Chapman.

9. Which Grand Prix was the first to hold a prequalifying session?

1950 British GP

Monaco

The Monaco GP.

1976 Monaco GP?

1989 Phoenix Grand Prix

1988 Brazilian Grand Prix

I'm pretty sure it was some time in the late 70s, and probably at Monaco because the grid is so small, so 1979 Monaco GP maybe?

1975 British GP

I thought it might be from the subject of the recent podcast - Enoch talking about the massively oversubscribed 1989 season, but I'm sure there were other races before - such as the time Coloni first turned up in 1987. It'll be really off-the-wall such as one of the earlier races where so many home drivers competed there was a pressing need to get shot of a few of them beforehand. Say, Silverstone, in 19...70. (I'm thinking a flurry of home activity in the seasons after Hill & Stewart had been champion).

somwhere in the 70's, maybe 1978 or 1977.. 1977 British Grand Prix

1977 British GP?

1965 South African Grand Prix?

I'm pretty sure it was the 1965 South Africian GP? I seem to remember that all the DNPQ drivers were south african

Most didn't fall into the trap of answering some time in the 1980s, although most did fall into the other trap of answering some time in the late 70s. The answer, as found by two of you, was the 1965 South African GP, which had prequalifying for unknown reasons, as the entry list was not overly long. Clive Puzey, Jackie Pretorius and Dave Charlton therefore became the first drivers to DNPQ.

10. Where did the name of the Camoradi International team come from?

Their union

I don't know, grapefruit?

A racing driver was cheating on his wife Camilla with a young French lady named Adeline. Camilla loved him dearly but was at her wit's end, so decided to offer an ultimatum. When he returned home from a "business trip", he found written on the fridge in those colourful magnets "Cam or Adi. You choose." The driver thought Camoradi was a fantastic name for a team and set about setting up his own outfit. Who did he pick, I hear you ask? Well, Adeline hadn't seen her...what's the male word for "mistress" you'd use? Bathplug knows. Anyway, yeah, she hadn't seen him in a while and
knocked on his home door where his wife answered. After a shouting match, they both decided to clear the air by going for a drink. And that, little Jimmy, is why you have two mummies.

Canada

You see, the team owner really approved of this concept called camaraderie, and thought it an excellent thing to name his team after. Unfortunately, he was pretty damn illiterate, and 'International' was only spelled correctly because he found a sticker with the word on it.
Alternatively... Italy? Maybe?

The word 'camaraderie'? I don't know. Never heard of them. You probably made them up....

Italian-Russian Comrades

It'll be something like Cosworth, in that the names of the two founders were amalgamated. These'll be Italian, though.

I am sure like Arrows it was an acronym. something MOtor RAcing DIvisions?

Abbreviation of Casner Motor Racing Division.

Indeed, much like Arrows and Cosworth, it was an abbreviation and came from its founder and occasional driver, Lloyd Casner, team boss of CAsner MOtor RAcing DIvision. Casner died in the mid-1960s in a le Mans accident. Despite the ressemblance, the word "camaraderie" is not related.

11. On a similar note, who gave the amusingly named BS Fabrications team its name?

I don't know, but I do know Brett Lunger, holder of the record of most GPs raced without a point before Luca Badoer, drove for them for 3 seasons or so and also was Nelson Piquet's second team, can I have a sympathy point for that?

BMS Scuderia Italia

The word which we used to describe WTCC these days.. Bullshite

Someone with a BS sense of humour

Presumably whoever's initials at the company were BS. Brian Smith? Barry Small? Or maybe an Indian steel magnate, Bhuvneshwar Singh?

Barry Scott, of Cillit Bang fame?

Bernd Schneider

I think it was the initials of Bob Sparshot?

Bob Sparshott

Bob Sparshott

Bob Sparshott.

This one was also an abbreviation, this time pure initials. It was indeed former Lotus engineer Bob Sparshott. The team launched the career of Nelson Piquet and ended the career of Henri Pescarolo.

12. Which driver holds the record for race entries with the most different constructors, and can you name all of these constructors? (0.07 points per correct answer)

No, I can't.

Roberto Moreno? But it probably isn't. It's probably some 50's chap again who entered in about 50 hand made shitboxes. Therefore, I am going to proceed to name random constructors.....
Ferrari, Ligier, Williams, Forti, ATS, Rial, Zakspeed, Benetton, Minardi, McLaren, Toleman, EuroBrun, AndreaModa, Life, Scuderia Italia, Lola, Dallara, Vanwall, Jordan, Arrows, Footwork, Coloni, Lotus, Brabham, Osella, March, RAM, Maki, Cooper, ERA, Gordini, Honda, Brawn, Tyrrell, Shadow, Larrousse, Onyx, ATS, Bentley.

Patrese... Arrows, Williams, Brabham, Benetton

Johnny Herbert: Benetton, Lotus, Ligier, Stewart, Sauber, Jaguar

Bloody Nora, I have no idea...whomever it is, they must be the racing version of Steve Claridge. Stab in the dark, Roberto Moreno?

Bloody hell. At 0.07 points per answer, that must be one for the name and 13 constructors. Got to be Roberto Moreno, hasn't it? That'll be the original Lotus, AGS, Coloni, EuroBrun, Benetton, Jordan, Minardi, Andrea Moda, Forti... wait, no, that's only nine. Still, take some of those as the
constructors' answer.

De Cesaris, Alfa Romeo, McLaren, Alfa Romeo Euroracing, Ligier, Brabham, Minardi, Rial, Scuderia Italia, Tyrrell, Jordan, Sauber

Andrea de Cesaris: McLaren, Minardi, Tyrrell, Lotus, Larousse, BMS Italia, Dallara, ATS, Pacific

I hope it's everyones favourite best driver not to win a race. Chris Amon who drove for some privateers I do remember Reg Parnell racing. So let guess
Amon (obviously)
Lotus (as everyone raced in a Lotus at one point)
March (ditto)
Lola (i am sure RPR used it once)
Ferrari (I remember he got podiums a plenty)
Matra (he got a podium here too)
Tecno (he scored a point)
Ensign (he did a season with them)
Now I struggle so I will guess Cooper, Surtees, BRM, Tyrell, Brabham.

That should be Chris Amon, who drove for: Matra, Ferrari, Tecno, Amon, Lola, March, BRM, Ensign and Lotus are the ones I remember

Chris Amon - Lola, Lotus, Brabham, Cooper, Ferrari, March, Matra, Tecno, Tyrrell, Amon, BRM, Ensign and Williams.

Chris Amon (Lola, Lotus, Brabham, Cooper, Ferrari, March, Matra,
Tecno, Tyrrell, Amon, BRM, Ensign and Williams).

I got a lot of de Cesarises and Morenos, but the answer was indeed Chris Amon. His Wikipedia page lists 13 constructors (Lola, Lotus, Brabham, Cooper, Ferrari, March, Matra,
Tecno, Tyrrell, Amon, BRM, Ensign and Wolf-Williams), but StatsF1 makes a claim, supported by my own Encyclopedia of Formula One, that Amon was also occasionally entered in a works McLaren in 1966, but never got to drive due to various issues.

13. Why is the name of the entrant of Leslie Johnson's ERA in the 1950 British Grand Prix disputed?

errr

Because the ink was smudged.

Because Bernie doesn't like it

Because he went by Jenny-Lee on weekends.

Cause it was a very slow car?

Bathplug the Germans Racing was deemed too inappropriate.

Back in those days, they'll have had to do it over the phone, with a very rackly line - either that or it'll have been handwritten, in the days when handwriting was near-illegible. So when Leslie Johnson turned up for the race, they'll have been expecting someone different because of communication problems - maybe they were expecting a woman called Lesley Johnson, or misread or misheard the name completely and said to him "bugger orf, what what, you're not orn this list, you rotter, what what".

I know the Leslie owned ERA at the time (one thing I remember from the Alt 50 championship), so was it somthing stupid like he named it something else but because he owned the team he was forced to call it ERA?

Some sources claimed that it was a "works" ERA entry, as Johnson had purchased the company three years earlier when it was in fact a private entry by "Taso" Mathieson.

As two of you correctly answered, it boiled down to Johnson's ownership of ERA. While the car was entered (and presumably owned) by pre-War driver T.A.S.O. Mathieson, some sources argue that the entrant should be listed as ERA Ltd., as Johnson owned the company and would have entered his own car. Indeed, at that point, with financial issues, Leslie Johnson was ERA, and possibly the only man working for them.

14. What was unusual about the race format of the 1959 German Grand Prix?

The race was ran to a prescribed distance in Furlongs, and measured in millifortnights. 2 firkins of champagne were also given to the winners...

Drivers had to complete the entire race distance in reverse.

F2 cars

Not a clue. It must have been at the Nürburgring and will be something to do with the extra length of the circuit. Did they run it as an endurance race?

Did they chop it up into heats?

2 heats race

2 heats

The race was run in two heats.

It was divided into two heats.

It was disputed in 2 separate heats by design (not because of some odd occurence).

2 30 Lap heats

I want to say it was held on a motorway between two service stations but I know it was the only F1 race to be held over two heats to stop the cars from blowing up from being on the trottle for such a long long time.

Deliberately held as a two-part race, with results on aggregate.

This was surely the easiest question in the quiz. Due to the high-speed nature of the AVUS circuit, where the race was exceptionally held, the race was purposefully split into two heats of 30 laps to prevent the engines from overheating due to constant throttle. Tony Brooks won both heats and the race for Ferrari.

15. On which previous chassis design was the Forti FG01 based?

No idea.

McLaren MP4/4

The Andrea Moda perhaps?

Simtek

An unfinished Fondmetal design intended for 1993.

The 1992 Fondmetal

The Fondmetal GR02? Rinland designed both; fun (false) fact, their noses were based on Alan Rickman.

One of the easier questions asked, the Fondmetal GR02

Fondmetal GR02

Fondmetal GR02.

On the Fondmetal GR02.

Fondmetal GR02, which in turn was based on a Brabham prototype

Sound the fanfare, this is the one I know! It's the 1992 Fondmetal GR02, and clearly for Forti running a three-year-old back-to-midfield design was less successful than Super Aguri running a similarly mediocre four-year-old design. YES! ONE POINT!

I didn't expect this one to be one of the most guessed, but it was. It was indeed the Fondmetal GR02, the relatively competitive design from late 1992. I accepted the answer of the unraced 1993 project, as I had previously decided not to be picky about the denomination, and I was sufficiently happy with receiving the word "Fondmetal". I don't think that sentence has ever been spoken before.

16. Which non-championship Grand Prix's organisers first triggered the change from F1 to F2 for the 1952 season, and which championship Grand Prix was the first to announce its own switch to Formula 2 (something which all championship GPs eventually did)? (0.5 points per correct answer)

The Uzbekistani Grand Prix

err, and Monaco

Monaco Grand Prix

1951 Pau GP?

Syracuse Grand Prix? Don't know about the first championship Grand Prix to announce the change.

It's probably not Pau, but I'm going to say it anyway because it's the only regularly held non-championship grand prix that I remember, and I recall it traditionally being held pretty early in the season.

Weren't one or two races in the 1951 season run to F2 standards? The full switch happening I think at the Italian GP as Ferrari were going to dominate a bit too heavily?

Some Grand Prix in France. They're a tight country.

Ye gods. It'll have to be one held at the end of the year, i.e. the Southern Hemisphere winter. The Australian Grand Prix - maybe the use of F2 cars would have allowed more local drivers to enter. And the first to announce the F2 rules on the F1 calendar... France?

This situation occurred in April 1952. With new engine regulations planned for 1954 but money running low across the F1 paddock, Alfa Romeo retired from the sport altogether, and Talbot-Lago folded, leaving only BRM and Ferrari to appear at the Valentino Grand Prix in Turin. BRM then received and the opportunity to give Fangio a test drive, leaving Ferrari alone. Panicking, the organisers hastily switched the race to F2 regulations. As it became obvious that no other F1 machinery would appear, non-championship races also started to switch, and the Automobile Club de France announced a French F2 championship, including the French Grand Prix, now an F2 race. Every championship Grand Prix followed suit, as did most NC races.

17. Everyone knows about saftey car driver and reject Eppie Wietzes famously picking up the wrong car in its first use, the 1973 Canadian Grand Prix. But who did Wietzes mistakenly pick up?

I KNOW THIS ONE BUT FORGOT

I have no idea.. He picked a woman and it turn out it was a man?

Wietzes picked up nobody, as he was driving the safety car and therefore could not use his arms to lift another person from the ground.

Not sure but it was one of Frank Williams cars.

Bugger. I read this on his profile once. Masten Gregory, wasn't it?

I know this, but can’t think of it without looking it up… Didier Pironi?

It was Jackie Oliver, wasn't it?

I know this! Howden Ganley!

Howden Ganley

Howden Ganley

Howden Ganley.

I thought this one would be easier, taking the circumstances into account. It wasn't Didier Pironi, whose career was only just starting, or Masten Gregory, who was a diamond merchant in Amsterdam at that point, or Jackie Oliver, who did lead that race, but not in that way. It was in fact Williams driver Howden Ganley. Most drivers gained a lap due to the mistake, but eventually, after counting lap charts correctly, the mistake was corrected, and the gained laps were not counted. Ganley finished the race in sixth place, scoring his only point of the season.

18. How did Swedish driver/drummer Karl Borgudd acquire the nickname "Slim", and how did this nickname cause him problems later on in his career? (0.5 points per correct answer)

Pass. I bet it’s in his F1Rejects profile, isn’t it?

Because he was slim?

Because, and to quote Scott Steiner, "HE'S FAT!" Slim was a term of joking endearment, but at such-and-such Grand Prix, one official accused him of impersonating the real Slim Borgudd, because obviously with a nickname like Slim, he must clearly be pretty skinny, and the nickname is not a joke at all. Obviously.

No idea how he got it, but I guess he was not so slim later in his career. How else would that nickname cause problems?

Because he's fat and slow?

He was chubby, and couldnt fit in the car

Because he was a fat bastard who couldn't fit in the car.

I would guess he was fat in his youth and it was an ironic name. This caused him problems because he was later mistaken for Fatboy Slim at Pinkpop in 1998.

Presumably everyone else in the band he was in (which wasn't ABBA) was as fat as Poison Idea, and he wasn't. Later on, post-F1, he auditioned for Poison Idea and was turned down for being 20 stone underweight...

I am sure that Karl Borgudd was a session drummer and replaced a drummer in a band who was sick and who was called Slim, so Karl became little slim. Did Karl become a fat bastard later in life?

He got his nickname when he took the place of the Willie Dixon Band's sick drummer "Memphis Slim" in a New Orleans gig. He had trouble cashing in cheques as most of them were addressed to "Slim" Borgudd instead of Karl.

I got varying degrees of "he's fat", which wasn't correct. The final listed answer basically covers it, including the name of the band for whom he filled in, prompting some suspicion of where a certain member named after a 1990s reject team got his information

19. Which driver once resorted to a full-page advertisement in a newspaper to attract personal sponsorship?

You

Given the theme of this quiz, this probably isn't who you're thinking of, but I'm 99% certain that Carl Edwards did something similar, so can I has sympathy point pls?

I remember Leyton House pulled that one off, not sure about a driver

James Hunt. Possibly. EDIT: Seen as Phoenix told us all the answer, let's just laugh at him for being Spanish. And by extension, unemployed. Ha. Oh, the wonders of being fickle.

That was Bernd Nacke, who appeared in an old health newspaper because he named sounded like he had chlamydia. It won him sponsorship from a company called Sueddeutsche Technik Darmstadter which had an unfortunate acronym.

Perry McCarthy?

Huub Rothengatter

Huub Rothengatter.

As Phoenix accidentally revealed in the chatroom, it was indeed Dutch journeyman Huub Rothengatter, who popped up everywhere in the mid-1980s. Once desperate for personal sponsorship, he resorted to a full-page advert in De Telegraaf.

19b. Which driver once represented his country in tennis' Davis Cup?

Well, I'm pretty sure Tim Henman has a driving license, so, uh...yeah...

Roger Federer?

Nelso Piquet

Maybe Nelson Piquet?

Nigel Moansel?

I wouldn't have known the original question so this substitute is no help. I don't even know any F1 drivers who played tennis. Except possibly... SLim Borgudd again? He's Swedish and they like tennis...

Was it Kozarowitzky? I definitely remember reading about it on the website a while back...

It was indeed Finnish reject Mikko Kozarowitzky, who represented Finland in the 1966 David Cup. He retired from tennis soon afterwards after a motorcycle accident, then turned to racing. The fact is reported in Mikko's profile and interview on the Formula One Rejects website.

20. Name the two reasons why Emilio de Villota's entry in the 1981 Spanish Grand Prix was cancelled. (0.5 points per correct answer)

Because he had a constipation, and the car was also had a constipation of oil

The race director had once met the actor Martin Sheen, who had been incredibly rude to him. In his confusion, he mistook Emilio de Villota for his son Emilio Estevez and banned him from taking part. When his mistake was pointed out by the real Emilio Estevez, de Villota was cleared to race.
However, when de Villota was caught watching Apocalypse Now on Betamax, he was kicked out again.

The organisers had just realised that he'd 'driven' around the circuit, whilst wearing a cardboard box around his waist that had been painted to resemble a Ferrari, and making 'brrrm' noises. Incompetent lot, those Spanish organisers. And then they lost their jobs. Probably.

Because he had no money and because the car was slow as bathplug?

Lack of sponsorship?

Lack of funds, race was to lose its championship status

Probably something to do with the fact that the race became non-championship, so I'm gonna guess that it was something to do with regulations. Either that or he just didn't turn up.

I've read this once as well... some time ago. I'm sure he was denied the Superlicence, or whatever the equivalent was in 1981. And his car had the wrong engine or something like.

Not a member of FOCA, and no superlicence

One reason was because the grid was full but Karl Borgudd and his ATS didn't turn up for the first practice and when he did privateer Emilio de Villota was excluded, I assume the second reason was to do with FISA and the spanish organisers?

The new Concorde Agreement outlawed private entries. de Villota was nevertheless allowed in as ATS were late, only to be thrown out when they arrived.

1) The Concorde Agreement no longer allowed private entries taking part in Grand Prix racing and 2) The RACE allowed de Villota in after the ATS team allegedly failed to arrive in time for the GP.

I saw a few references to SuperLicences and the race being non-championship, none of which were true. De Villota easily qualified for a licence, and it was the 1980 Spanish GP that was demoted. It was in fact because de Villota's entry was a private entry, which had been banned by the Concorde Agreement. However, the organisers (the aptly named RACE) allowed him to compete, unofficially because he was a fan favourite, officially because ATS had not yet arrived at the track. Later on that weekend, ATS finally arrived, Günter Schmid got a tad annoyed (as he always did) and FISA arrived at the same time to kick de Villota out.

21. Name the four drivers who made their début in the 1989 French Grand Prix. (0.25 points per correct answer)

Jean Alesi, dunno dunno dunnooooo

Jean Alesi... and three other stooges. I guess.

Jean Alesi. As for tjhe other 3, Michael Schumacher.

Jean Alesi,Oscar Laurrauri, err

Alesi and Donnelly at the request of a certain E. Jordan, no idea about t'others.

Jean Alesi, Eric Barnard, Olivier Grouillard, Oliver Beretta?

Jean Alesi, Emmanule Pirro, Martin Donnely

Of all the ones I might have had a chance of knowing... I wasn't watching in 1989 or I might have known it! Mid-season changes I can think of probably included prequalifying that year, and I'll bet it's those at the back of the grid. I'll go for: Emanuele Pirro (at Benetton after Johnny
Herbert's legs had let him down), Jean Alesi (I know he joined some time in 1989 and replaced Michele Alboreto at Tyrrell), Martin Donnelly (certainly made his debut in 1989 replacing Derek Warwick for one race), JJ Lehto (who didn't start the season with Onyx but replaced Bertrand Gachot on the way). At least one of those has to be right... right?

Jean Alesi, Éric Bernard, Martin Donnelly and Emanuele Pirro.

Jean Alesi, Martin Donnelly, Éric Bernard and Emanuelle Pirro.

Jean Alesi, Éric Bernard, Martin Donnelly, Emanuelle Pirro

Anyone who doesn't mention Alesi should be shot. Alesi - Tyrrell replacing Alboreto because of sponsorship issues, Pirro - Benetton replacing Herbert who was still suffering from the awful effects of his crash and DNQed the previous race, Donolley at Arrows after Warrick had a bad back, and I think Bernard because Yalmas was DNQing after not recovering properly from his legionaires disease.

Not really much to add here. Jean Alesi débuted for Tyrrell, Martin Donnelly for Arrows, Emmanuele Pirro for Benetton and Eric Bernard for Larrousse.

22. The 1955 British Grand Prix is well-known for being the scene of Stirling Moss' maiden victory ahead of Fangio, but who finished third?

You.

Ol' 'Two-Wheels' McClenaghan, who else?

Lewis Evans

Peter Collins

Eugenio Castellotti.

Maurice Trintignant

A stab in the dark - Maurice Trintignant.

Not sure but I know it was a Mercedes car. I would hazard a guess it was a German?

Hans Herrmann

Karl Kling?

Karl Kling

Karl Kling

Once again, not much to add. It was indeed a Mercedes driven by a German, that German being perennial Mercedes whipping boy Karl Kling. Piero Taruffi finished fourth that day, securing a Mercedes 1-2-3-4. It was to be Kling's final points finish.

23. Name the 7 Formula One drivers who also competed in the Olympic Games (not Paralympic). (0.14 points per correct answer)

I've got nothing.

I don't know and I'm not botter to look

Jackie Stewart,

Jenson Button. Probably. Jackie Stewart? Although he abandoned his shooting... erm... Jose Froilan Gonzalez?Jim Clark? Jean Alesi? Michael Schumacher? James James Davies?

No idea. Jackie Stewart, Jimmy Stewart, Graham Hill,…..

Bernadus Pons. Dunnooo

That Ben Pon fella, that's all I got.

I know that Prince Bira did some sailing and that Divina Galica did some skiing, I not sure if Sir Jackie Stewart did do the olympics for shooting.

There were seven? Right. Ben Pon (we've got a thread named after him), Robin Widdows (ditto), Divina Galica (skiing), Jorge de Bagration (if I've got the right one from his profile, but he didn't actually get an entry, did he?) So there must be three more. Jenson Button (triathlon), Kamui
Kobayashi (judo and sushi preparation) and Max Chilton (international belt sander drag racing).

Bernardus Pon, Alfonso de Portago, Divina Galica, Prince Bira.

Alfonso de Portago, Bob Said, Robin Widdows, Divina Galica, Prince Bira, Roberto Mieres and Ben Pon.

Jackie Stewart almost made it eight drivers, but barely lost his chance of making the British shooting team in 1960. The seven, as stated above, were Alfonso de Portago, Bob Said, Robin Widdows (all bobsledders), B. Bira, Roberto Mieres (both in sailing), Ben Pon (shooting) and Divina Galica (alpine skiing).

24. Which controversial insurance broker turned racing driver was later implicated in a child pornography scandal, causing him to emigrate to Thailand?

No idea

Wut?

No idea, but I wouldn't want to be in his gang.

Blimey, I haven't a clue...

Wasn't he american?

All I can think of is Jean-Pierre van Rossem. But he never drove. Ermm.... Max Mosely?

Ye gods. The name that I remember as being implicated in that sort of filth, mentioned on this forum, was Peter Arundell.

John Riseley-Prichard

As brought up on this forum about a year ago by yours truly, the answer was indeed John Riseley-Prichard. Also being notable for giving Tony Brooks his racing break, the man was also an original partner of Ann Summers sex shops and died of AIDS in a remote Thai village. Peter Arundell, meanwhile, was a founder of Mystique games, known for its pornographic and also very terrible video games.

25. Who was the first Swedish driver to enter a championship Grand Prix?

Peter Revson

Slim Bergudd

Gunnar Nilsson. But it was probably some guy I've never heard of, who entered the 1957 Italian Grand Prix on a reindeer. He may have been called Bjorn.

Should be Reine Wisell

Reine Wisell

The earliest one I know was Jo Bonnier. He was Swedish, wasn't he?

The great Jo Bonnier damn it

Jo Bonnier, can it really be that easy?

Jo Bonnier?

Jo Bonnier.

Jo Bonnier

It's obviously not Jo Bonnier, but my knowledge of Swedish drivers is limited to him, Ronnie Peterson, Stefan Johansson, Marcus Ericsson, and Reine Wisell, and they were all in the 70s or later, so I guess I'll have to hope Bonnier is right.

Erik Kundgren at the 1951 German GP.

It didn't surprise me that only one got the answer (sort of). What did surprise me was that some missed the obvious Jo Bonnier and instead answered the less obvious Reine Wisell or the even less obvious Slim Borgudd. The answer was in fact Erik Lundgren (not Kundgren), who entered the 1951 German Grand Prix in a heavily modified Ford now known as the EL. He was unable to make the trip.

26. When did the final shared drive in Formula One occur, and which drivers were involved? (0.33 points per correct answer)

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2013 Aaron's 499, Denny Hamlin and Brian Vickers

It was Jose Froilan Gonzalez; although he started as one man, he started to tire a little part way through the race. He got out of the car, unzipped his outer shell, and inside were three small Argentines named Jose, Froilan and Gonzalo. Jose did the steering, Froilan did the pedals, and Gonzalo sat in the back with a martini and a Monte Cristo.

Juan Manuel Fangio, Jose Froilan Gonzalez, and Michael Schumacher. 2014 F1RWRS Mediterranean GP

1957 somewhere, Fangio and someone

Fangio did a lot of these I think, so I'll just say him, Peter Collins, and some other random 50s competitor... Luigi Musso?

1959 Argentine GP, Juan-Manuel Fangio, Luigi Musso

Not a clue who they were, but I reckon it was in... 1959, in Germany. Shot in the dark, obviously. Moss and Fangio again?

I think it was in 1961 probably at the Britsh GP and did it involve Sir Stirling Moss getting disqualified for his trouble?

1964 United States GP - Jim Clark and Mike Spence shared the no. 2 Lotus.

While shared drives were indeed a lot more common in the 1950s, they actually trickled into the 1960s, although extremely sparingly due to the incentives to stop the practice. Stirling Moss and Jack Fairman indeed shared the 4WD Ferguson, getting disqualified, although for receiving on track assistance rather than for sharing the car. Despite this, the final shared drive occurred three years later, when Mike Spence and Jim Clark switched cars in the 1964 United States Grand Prix when Clark's car started having issues. Clark got up to third before having to drop to seventh with more trouble.

27. Which German-born driver's autobiography is titled "Blood, Sweat and Turnips"?

German-born...so, not German? No idea. I can think of one German-born driver who is a complete turnip...clue: he was born in Heidelberg to a similarly unpleasant man.

Michael Schumacher

I was going to say Norfolk born Martin Brundle but the question said German, so it could be anyone so lets say Ralf Schumacher

Ralf Schumacher. Yeah, I know it's not him, but I can't come up with anything funnier.

Heinz Harald Frentzen? He probably enjoyed his turnips with some Heinz beans...

Karl Kling

Jochen Mass

The only driver I know who was associated with farming is Jody Scheckter, but he's not German. I'll say Hans Heyer - would you be wearing that hat for any other reason?

John Cordt

John Cordts

I heavily suspect the two who found it to have searched the answer, and one of them in fact admitted to having searched Indeed, the answer was German-born, Swedish-raised, Canadian driver-turned-wood carver John Cordts. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be available on Amazon.

28. Which Formula One driver was introduced to motorsport as an interpreter for drivers?

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Really? Who's that smuch and how bad was he?

Klon?

No idea, Ron Dennis?

Kimi Raikkonen. It was a joke, you see.

Bertrand Gachot? Sounds like something he'd do...

Ron Dennis was never a driver, was he? Good job. I'll bet it was Tommy Byrne - he'll have been given his chance with McLaren because they wanted someone to translate Ronspeak into English. Well, Hiberno-English, but it's easier to understand than Ron's gibberish, so it is. Begorrah.

Yuji Ide!

Jonathan Palmer

Johnny Claes

Only one of you got it. Guess who It was indeed this forum's favourite 50s reject and jazz legend Johnny Claes. He was introduced to motorsport at the 1948 French Grand Prix, where he was a translator for British drivers, being perfectly bilingual due to having a British mother and Belgian father, and being born in Fulham. The sport interested him, and he promptly started racing, giving us some impressive early records of reject goodness.

29. Which notable reject is best known for being the last person to have spoken with James Dean before his death?

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No idea.

Don't know, but RIP

My Mum would probably know this, she's a big James Dean fan. But I'm not her, so I have no idea.

It was HWNSNBM, who travelled back in time to the morning James Dean died, and he crashed his Porsche because he was so awestruck at meeting HWNSNBM that he couldn't concentrate.

Michael Schumacher?

Don't know, but I'll say... Gachot?

No idea, Bernie Ecclestone?

That was Bob Gerard, since both were in the "Surnames as First Names" club.

Peter Collins?

Bruce Kessler

I honestly thought this was better known. The answer was actually strapping young heir/playboy/team owner/driver Lance Reventlow, who founded and drove for Scarab in 1960. Reventlow had coffee with James Dean in a Californian restaurant thirty minutes before the actor's tragic death in a car accident on his way to a sportscar race in Salinas.

30. Which driver retired from motor racing by accident when he forgot to renew his competitive licence?

No idea whatsoever.

*shrugs*

Kek

Who's that idiot?

At the end of his career, drinking had taken its toll on McClenaghan. The smiling Irish eyes had gone and were replaced by jaded, blue husks surrounded by deep black circles. Those eyes darted into life when the phone rang; a red phone cut the quiet room's atmosphere with a shrill,
repetitive yell. "Two Wheels" reached over, knocking a whisky bottle to the carpet, and picked up the phone.
"Aye?" said McClenaghan, expectantly.
"That you, Two Wheels? It's Lance." said the voice on the phone.
"Aye."
"We got a problem, buddy. FIA just rang. You didn't renew your license, did you?"
"You kiddin' Lance? 'Course I did, like I'd forget summat like that..."
"Right, I'll have a quick word then...don't you worry, pal. We'll get this sorted."
"Great. Bye."
McClenaghan dropped the receiver back and stared at the front table intently; something caught his weary eye and his pupils widened. He reached forward and pulled a piece of paper off, scanned it and slumped back in his chair defeated.
"Feck. I've only forgotten to send the feckin' form off."

Dreis van der Lof. Totally.

No idea, Eddie Playboy Irvine?

That's such a dense move it should have been Juan Pablo Montoya, but he's still racing. I'll say... Claudio Langes, that's why he disapperared so abruptly.

Alain Prost? Niki Lauda?

Phil Hill

Again, only one of you found it, but it wasn't Simtek. The answer was indeed 1961 World Champion Phil Hill. In early 1968, he realised that he'd forgotten to renew his racing licence. Taking it as a sign that he'd lost his motivation, he decided to hang up his helmet and retire from motor racing.

Tune in tomorrow, when I award extra points for funnyness and interestingness, QI style