Reject of the Race-Canada 2013

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 07 Jun 2013, 19:42

I know it's only practice and you can strangle me all you like but there are 2 candidates already

The first candidate is some of the timing screens because they keep showing the wrong driver. They mistook Di Resta spinning for Sutil then they mistook Ricciardo locking up for Vergne and finally they mistook Webber almost hitting the wall of champions for Vettel. What Ineptitude

The second candidate at the moment has to be Sauber Is this really the same team that scored a podium last year? They were only faster than the Caterham's and Marussia's and the Mexican was ahead of the German. Even Williams were faster than them. The Hulk must be ruing the day he switched to Sauber. The fact that he was just 0.1 faster than Bianchi and 0.3 faster than Charles Pic says it all.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 07 Jun 2013, 19:55

If Hamilton gets beaten by Rosberg again I'm nominating Roscoe the Dog for being a distraction to Lewis.

John Watson has criticized him for taking Roscoe with him as the paddock is no place for an animal and the dog be banned from the paddock. Ironically (although I'm not calling Wattie a hypocrite), there is a feature on the official F1 website titled F1® drivers and their dogs which is a gallery of drivers with a dog. One of those is Watson himself from 1975! However, he is not featured on the circuit with his canine pals.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 07 Jun 2013, 20:36

F1Rejects for not renaming the award to Reject of the Weekend.

Yeah, I'm going to do this until it gets changed

Post by **Ataxia** » 07 Jun 2013, 20:41

darkapprentice77 wrote:F1Rejects for not renaming the award to Reject of the Weekend.

Yeah, I'm going to do this until it gets changed

Too much of a fuss is made of this. The way I see it, people can just be patient and hang on until Sunday. That way, we'll have no argument slinging or complaining at all. If people have a nomination to make from qualifying, they can still hang on. No sense in making nominations when only about 30% of the weekend is done.

Post by **Londoner** » 07 Jun 2013, 20:46

This is the problem I have, in that opening ROTR threads on a Friday night/Saturday never used to be an issue until quite recently. Why has it suddenly become almost sacreligious to open one before the race?

People are strange...

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 07 Jun 2013, 20:48

East Londoner wrote:This is the problem I have, in that opening ROTR threads on a Friday night/Saturday never used to be an issue until quite recently. Why has it suddenly become almost sacreligious to open one before the race?

People are strange...

I don't mind that threads are opened on friday night, the problem I have is simply the name of the award, if a driver can be nominated for something that happened outside of the race, then it shouldn't be called Reject of the Race.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 07 Jun 2013, 20:54

darkapprentice77 wrote:
East Londoner wrote:This is the problem I have, in that opening ROTR threads on a Friday night/Saturday never used to be an issue until quite recently. Why has it suddenly become almost sacreligious to open one before the race?

People are strange...
I don't mind that threads are opened on friday night, the problem I have is simply the name of the award, if a driver can be nominated for something that happened outside of the race, then it shouldn't be called Reject of the Race.

We're on f1rejects.com, where Reject of the Race has been awarded since 2000. It's tradition, it's what's done here, there's no reason to make it into a problem.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 07 Jun 2013, 21:31

darkapprentice77 wrote:
East Londoner wrote:This is the problem I have, in that opening ROTR threads on a Friday night/Saturday never used to be an issue until quite recently. Why has it suddenly become almost sacreligious to open one before the race?

People are strange...
I don't mind that threads are opened on friday night, the problem I have is simply the name of the award, if a driver can be nominated for something that happened outside of the race, then it shouldn't be called Reject of the Race.

A bad day in practice often leads to a bad qualifying run and then into a bad race.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 07 Jun 2013, 22:09

Does it really matter? I mean, Jenoch decides the real ROTR by themselves anyway, we can only advice them. Even if i nominate the tree in front of my window, i have the right to do so. It will not have any influence on the real ROTR decision. But it could inspire Jenoch to ROTR that tree anyway if nothing rejectful were to happen in the F1 universe. (however, very unlikely, we should be mentally prepared for the day that really nothing rejectful happens)

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 08 Jun 2013, 09:21

Reject of the Race - Canada 2013 will be......Charlie Whiting.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 08 Jun 2013, 09:48

Jocke1 wrote:Reject of the Race - Canada 2013 will be......Charlie Whiting.

Does this have something to do with Canada 2011 or Australia this year?

Post by **mario** » 08 Jun 2013, 10:13

Kimi-ICE wrote:I know it's only practice and you can strangle me all you like but there are 2 candidates already

The first candidate is some of the timing screens because they keep showing the wrong driver. They mistook Di Resta spinning for Sutil then they mistook Ricciardo locking up for Vergne and finally they mistook Webber almost hitting the wall of champions for Vettel. What Ineptitude

The second candidate at the moment has to be Sauber Is this really the same team that scored a podium last year? They were only faster than the Caterham's and Marussia's and the Mexican was ahead of the German. Even Williams were faster than them. The Hulk must be ruing the day he switched to Sauber. The fact that he was just 0.1 faster than Bianchi and 0.3 faster than Charles Pic says it all.

Sauber's pace is fairly dreadful so far - they are 18th and 19th fastest in sector 1 (they're slower a tenth slower than Pic and only a few hundredths faster than Bianchi), 15th and 18th fastest in sector 2 and 16th and 19th slowest in sector 3 (where Bianchi is 17th fastest and half a tenth quicker than Hulkenberg). If they were consistently slow in one sector they could at least target their efforts there, but they are consistently slow in both the high speed and slow speed technical sections and seem all at sea at both extremes of the circuit.

They also looked pretty poor in wet conditions too - Hulkenberg was really struggling for rear traction in the first sector in FP1, and the amount of movement at the rear of the car suggested that they still haven't fully solved their problems with rear end instability. We'll see what they do in FP3, but the signs are not particularly encouraging so far given they've openly admitted that they are really struggling with their set ups.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 08 Jun 2013, 18:59

Massa and Grosjean are the favorites now.

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 09 Jun 2013, 18:26

The weather and Di resta are the favs right now

PT8475 · Post by **PT8475** » 09 Jun 2013, 18:34

I'd say Lotus are favs atm.

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 09 Jun 2013, 18:37

PT8475 wrote:I'd say Lotus are favs atm.

I agree now. Poor pitstop and fuel consumption

PT8475 · Post by **PT8475** » 09 Jun 2013, 18:39

rachel1990 wrote:
PT8475 wrote:I'd say Lotus are favs atm.

I agree now. Poor pitstop and fuel consumption

Or Mark Webber's rev limiter.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 09 Jun 2013, 18:40

PT8475 wrote:
rachel1990 wrote:
PT8475 wrote:I'd say Lotus are favs atm.

I agree now. Poor pitstop and fuel consumption

Or Mark Webber's rev limiter.

Adrian Sutil's defending or Jenson Button's strategy

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 09 Jun 2013, 18:49

What about the Marshalling. Where were the Blue Flags there?

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 09 Jun 2013, 18:53

We have a very obvious nomination= Van de Garde for hitting Webber!

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:06

Van de garde- Second incident of the day=Winner

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:07

Gideo Van derp Garde: Monaco Hero to Canada absolute Zero

TheBigJ · Post by **TheBigJ** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:08

I think I'll nominate Red Bull the media and the armchair traditionalists for ruining the race by whingeing about tyres. This is what happens...

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:39

And it's a clear ROTR for everyone who was bitching about Pirelli.

With an honourable mention to Giedo van derp Garde - drove like a goddamn rock ape out there.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:41

Not many candidates, again. I think van der Garde wasn't much in the crash with Webber, so I'll nominate Sauber. Rubbish all around.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:45

CarlosFerreira wrote:Not many candidates, again. I think van der Garde wasn't much in the crash with Webber, so I'll nominate Sauber. Rubbish all around.

What. Did you not see the part where he clearly turned in on Webber, who was lapping him, and was most of the way alongside?

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:45

Much like BlindCaveSalamander said above.

1. Everyone Who Was Bitching About Pirelli: See what happens ladies and gentlemen.

2. van Der Garde: Slow and wreckless as usual.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:48

Van Der Garde, Sauber, Kimi, McLaren, Williams... and a weird nomination: some microphones on the track were set too loud and the cars had a square-y, overdriven volume, and then there's the stewards...

Dan B · Post by **Dan B** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:49

Van de Garde was just awful today. I couldn't help but laugh when he decided to run over his wing, and the incident with Webber was inexcusable.

That said I'm going to nominate Sauber. Hulkenberg faded way too quickly and somehow was taken out by Van de Garde (not necessarily his fault mind you) and Gutierrez was stuck in Marussiaville until he decided to put it in the wall. All while Force India puts their cars in the points, one being somewhat broken and the other starting from 17th.

Honorable mention goes to Raikkonen: he would've been beaten by Grosjean if the latter did not have to pit.

EDIT: And if Hulkenberg somehow caused his own retirement, then that further compounds my nomination for Sauber.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:50

Shizuka wrote:Van Der Garde, Sauber, Kimi, McLaren, Williams... and a weird nomination: some microphones on the track were set too loud and the cars had a square-y, overdriven volume, and then there's the stewards...

The stewards? What did they do wrong?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:50

Well, there's a few contenders for me this evening:

Dishonourable mentions today for Sauber (again, a poor performance), Vettel's suspension for being too strong (a joke), Van der Garde, and Lotus for being insultingly slow compared to the ultimate pace.

But ROTR has to go to Pirelli doubters. Go home already. Pirelli, especially Paul Hembrey, have been a fresh face to the sport and something refreshing for a change. As people. Have said before, they were given a brief and stuck to it. I don't necessarily agree with it, nor do I like the fact they gave in a little to the team's protests, but the bitchers are really starting to irritate me now. Pirelli being driven out by constant bs is the last thing the sport needs.

And as for van der Garde, while his driving was rejectful today, it was refreshing to see a nice touch of incompetence from the backmarker teams that's been sadly missed

Dan B · Post by **Dan B** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:50

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Dan B wrote:Van de Garde was just awful today. I couldn't help but laugh when he decided to run over his wing, and the incident with Webber was inexcusable.

That said I'm going to nominate Sauber. Hulkenberg faded way too quickly and somehow was taken out by Van de Garde (not necessarily his fault mind you) and Gutierrez was stuck in Marussiaville until he decided to put it in the wall. All while Force India puts their cars in the points, one being somewhat broken and the other starting from 17th.

Honorable mention goes to Raikkonen: he would've been beaten by Grosjean if the latter did not have to pit.

The stewards? What did they do wrong?

I never mentioned the stewards.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:51

Here we go then

Giedo Van derp Garde: Hero to Zero

Mclaren: What has gone wrong? Out of the points for the first time since Abu Dhabi 2009. They are now 14 points behind Force India and the fact that Vergne in the Toro Rosso is now ahead of Perez in the Drivers Title just says it all. ROTY at this rate. That'll teach Button not to steal Vettel's wins

Lotus: What the hell was that? Seriously their tires went off faster than the others in the first stint and Grosjean stayed out way too long and didn't do much. Ferrari are now miles ahead and the tire chewing Mercedes are miles ahead in the title too.

The TV director: I could have directed the race better than him. 5 laps in and i saw more of replays than live action

The Crowd: Come on Vettel dominated but you don't have to jeer him and cheer Alonso. 2011 all over again. Disgusting

Everyone Moaning about Pirelli: They Obviously want to see more of VETTELWINSLOL

Sauber: 5 words: Crap Crap and Uber Crap

The Stewards: Penalties to Maldonado and Sutil for minor infringements were ridiculous

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:51

For me, Stewards:

1 - Maldonado and Sutil contact was race incident only.
2 - Ridiculous penalty for Van Der Garde! Completely Webber fault! He wasn't close enough for overtake. Webber is the one who deserved a penalty. But you know who will be punished in a incident between a front runner and a backmacker.
3 - Sutil's penalty for me was undeserved.
4 - The Hulk deserved a penalty for his contact with Van Der Garde. He did exactly that Alguersuari did with Chandook in Spain/10 and he got a penalty in that race.

Also, I also mention Blue Flags rules. Please, get rid of this!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:51

Dan B wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Dan B wrote:Van de Garde was just awful today. I couldn't help but laugh when he decided to run over his wing, and the incident with Webber was inexcusable.

That said I'm going to nominate Sauber. Hulkenberg faded way too quickly and somehow was taken out by Van de Garde (not necessarily his fault mind you) and Gutierrez was stuck in Marussiaville until he decided to put it in the wall. All while Force India puts their cars in the points, one being somewhat broken and the other starting from 17th.

Honorable mention goes to Raikkonen: he would've been beaten by Grosjean if the latter did not have to pit.

The stewards? What did they do wrong?

I never mentioned the stewards.

Crap, sorry. I meant to quote Shizuka's post instead. :oops:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:52

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:The stewards? What did they do wrong?

I think Sutil's penalty was a little cruel, and interestingly, it came out almost immediately.
I'm not mentioning VDG now. How is that crash a stop and go penalty I don't understand. It did not destroy Webber's race, no matter if it was his fault or not.

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:54

1st Van De Garde- two crashes took the hulk out and nearly took webber out and didn't cause a saftey car
2nd BBC- For the final time - IT WAS NOT AN EXCITING RACE

nominations go to - Canadian race fans- No matter how boring the race is there is no need to boo Vettel
The weather- Wrong day to rain
Lotus- Very poor day
Mclaren- No points no hope

Dan B · Post by **Dan B** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:54

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Crap, sorry. I meant to quote Shizuka's post instead.

No worries.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 09 Jun 2013, 19:59

rachel1990 wrote:2nd BBC- For the final time - IT WAS NOT AN EXCITING RACE

And no doubt they'll be gushing over Di Resta's drive and lauding him to the skies about how he'll move up the ranks

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Jun 2013, 20:02

Dj_bereta wrote:1 - Maldonado and Sutil contact was race incident only.

Maldonado screwed up under braking and damaged Sutil's rear wing. Seems pretty clear cut to me.

2 - Ridiculous penalty for Van Der Garde! Completely Webber fault! He wasn't close enough for overtake. Webber is the one who deserved a penalty. But you know who will be punished in a incident between a front runner and a backmacker.

Also, I also mention Blue Flags rules. Please, get rid of this!

Webber was lapping van der Garde. He was alongside the Caterham. And then van der Garde turned in on him. It didn't ruin Webber's race, but it was an avoidable collision, between a lapped car and a car in contention for a podium. This is exactly why the blue flag rule exists - to stop fools like van der Garde from potentially ruining somebody else's race like that. Do I need to remind you of some of Andrea de Cesaris' antics?

4 - The Hulk deserved a penalty for his contact with Van Der Garde. He did exactly that Alguersuari did with Chandook in Spain/10 and he got a penalty in that race.

van der Garde. Was. A lap. Down. He should not have been in that position in the first place.