Rejected from the word go?

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 06 Jul 2012, 16:14

Oh my. This screams 'ripping the piss' to me, he surely couldn't be that oblivious as to the tone of that letter.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 06 Jul 2012, 16:15

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 06 Jul 2012, 16:28

fjackdaw wrote:This is Don Pentecost's facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/u.s.energysolution

But guys, did you not see? Don has published the fake Mike Coughlan letter, believing it to be real!!!

http://force1usa.com/williams-f1-manager-comments-on-force-1-usa-future-f1-racing/

Oh dear god... :lol:

I can't stop laughing... :lol:

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 06 Jul 2012, 16:32

Comment removed due to controversy. Kindly remove all references to this post. :oops:

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 06 Jul 2012, 16:43

Tch, FMecha, you've ruined the fun now.

If Mr Pentecost really had the speed gene, why isn't he already a racing driver of note, even on the amateur scene, I wonder? It reminds me of the film King Of Comedy - a comedian trying to go straight for a prime time television slot without ever working a club or honing his craft.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 06 Jul 2012, 16:45

He is also trying to start a Christianity based racing team, bless his cotton socks:

I am attempting to acquire funding (and network connections) for a start-up Christian motorsport (ministry-related) team.

Post by **Londoner** » 06 Jul 2012, 16:52

fjackdaw wrote:Tch, FMecha, you've ruined the fun now.

Indeed. Anyone have the keys to the papaya cannons? :evil:

Monstrobolaxa · Post by **Monstrobolaxa** » 06 Jul 2012, 18:13

Now it's beginning to look promising!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 06 Jul 2012, 18:39

JeremyMcClean wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:This is Don Pentecost's facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/u.s.energysolution

But guys, did you not see? Don has published the fake Mike Coughlan letter, believing it to be real!!!

http://force1usa.com/williams-f1-manager-comments-on-force-1-usa-future-f1-racing/

Oh dear god... I can't stop laughing...

How the bathplug did he fall for that? :shock:

Also, why did you have to go and spoil it, FMecha?

Post by **Londoner** » 06 Jul 2012, 19:03

Hopefully he'll realise his massive error and delete the killjoy comment before it's too late.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 06 Jul 2012, 19:29

I hope so too... though I'm not sure that's possible while it's waiting moderation.

You just know this Don guy, when he inevitably gets ignored by the F1 community, won't say, "Well, I gave it my best shot, but I can see now that Formula 1 is really the place for massive corporations these days", he'll say, "I was treated disgracefully by the bigoted and blinkered F1 community, who didn't want their imagine challenged by a 59-year-old American Formula 1 champion racing for Christ".

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 06 Jul 2012, 19:35

FMecha wrote:Trivia: If you check the F1RMGP '14 thread, I ran a rumor that Pentecost has (fictionally) bidded for a entry in 2015 F1RMGP season.

Ya see, there's this thing called real life, and I often find it's more fun than a fictional universe.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Jul 2012, 19:57

FMecha wrote:I told him to bathplug off and to realise that the Coughlan letter is actually from Kostas by commenting it.

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 06 Jul 2012, 21:44

Unless this guy has serious mental problems, there's no chance that he believes the message is actually from Coughlan. He's just using the opportunity it gives him to name-drop in order to spam everyone about his project/scam. Something funny would be to alert the real Mike Coughlan as to the existence of all this, and see his reaction.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 06 Jul 2012, 22:18

FMecha you f***ing idiot, if real life Mike Coughlan decides he's absolutely furious that someone has done a parody of him and decides it was deliberate impersonation for malicious means, he can f***ing sue me. Don't go around making statements like that! While the intent was not of deliberate malice to deride him, rather to mock Mr Pentocost's stupid F1 team plan, if he decides to pursue a case in that direction I am so very screwed. I will find your address and send you the legal bill if it does come to that. Because that was just plain unnecessary and stupid. Don't you understand how these things work?

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 06 Jul 2012, 22:31

kostas22 wrote:FMecha you f***ing idiot, if real life Mike Coughlan decides he's absolutely furious that someone has done a parody of him and decides it was deliberate impersonation for malicious means, he can f***ing sue me. Don't go around making statements like that! While the intent was not of deliberate malice to deride him, rather to mock Mr Pentocost's stupid F1 team plan, if he decides to pursue a case in that direction I am so very screwed. I will find your address and send you the legal bill if it does come to that. Because that was just plain unnecessary and stupid. Don't you understand how these things work?

Hadn't thought of that. Identity theft I suppose?

Considering he did tweet pretty much every prominent figure in the paddock with that info, what you're worried about isn't totally outside the bounds of reality.

Overall, for a multitude of reasons, FMecha, that was a really, really stupid thing to do.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 06 Jul 2012, 22:36

WaffleCat wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
Monstrobolaxa wrote:For a minute there I thought the project was doomed! But wait he's posting job vacancies:

http://force1usa.com/future-f1-employme ... mployment/

Certainly the project is starting to roll!

I tried to post a reply to this page, however it appears moderation is switched on for posts and therefore there's no way it will make it onto the page. But, here's what I tried to submit;

What happens if Mr Pentecost actually asks you for the blueprint and asks whether Mr Villeneuve is available?

Called it....sort of.

Post by **Londoner** » 06 Jul 2012, 22:38

The question is, why did FMecha do what he did? Not only did he ruin a good laugh, but he's potentially led F1 Rejects up shite creek if word of this gets around.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 06 Jul 2012, 22:40

shinji wrote:
kostas22 wrote:FMecha you f***ing idiot, if real life Mike Coughlan decides he's absolutely furious that someone has done a parody of him and decides it was deliberate impersonation for malicious means, he can f***ing sue me. Don't go around making statements like that! While the intent was not of deliberate malice to deride him, rather to mock Mr Pentocost's stupid F1 team plan, if he decides to pursue a case in that direction I am so very screwed. I will find your address and send you the legal bill if it does come to that. Because that was just plain unnecessary and stupid. Don't you understand how these things work?

Hadn't thought of that. Identity theft I suppose?

Considering he did tweet pretty much every prominent figure in the paddock with that info, what you're worried about isn't totally outside the bounds of reality.

Overall, for a multitude of reasons, FMecha, that was a really, really stupid thing to do.

Agreed, and I've had personal experience of something like this, having got caught up in an incident whilst at university which put some lecturers in a compromised position. My name was leaked by some grasser douchebag and I nearly got my university career finished midway through my first year! Fortunately I was able to convince the powers that be that all wasn't as it seemed, and I escaped with just an official warning, but this could be far more serious.

I mean, just why man? WHY? :roll:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 07 Jul 2012, 00:53

I am afraid that I must agree with those saying that this really was not a wise decision. Luckily kostas22 won't be able to do anything to you should this go down the drain, but still it is not too kind. On the other hand, we could delete the evidence with kostas22 removing the screen shot.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 07 Jul 2012, 00:59

Klon wrote:Luckily kostas22 won't be able to do anything to you should this go down the drain, but still it is not too kind.

It's Kostas. He's a Glaswegian. Therefore he's more than capable of kicking someone's teeth down their throats from halfway around the world :lol:

Seriously though, that was poor form Mecha, poor form.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 07 Jul 2012, 01:01

Wizzie wrote:
Klon wrote:Luckily kostas22 won't be able to do anything to you should this go down the drain, but still it is not too kind.

It's Kostas. He's a Glaswegian. Therefore he's more than capable of kicking someone's teeth down their throats from halfway around the world

He's a mental Italian, Italians couldn't kick arse if they wanted too - we Germans had to learn that the hard way.

Oh no, I didn't!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 07 Jul 2012, 01:12

When I saw FMecha's comment I facedesked so hard I got brain damage.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 07 Jul 2012, 01:27

shinji wrote:
kostas22 wrote:FMecha you f***ing idiot, if real life Mike Coughlan decides he's absolutely furious that someone has done a parody of him and decides it was deliberate impersonation for malicious means, he can f***ing sue me. Don't go around making statements like that! While the intent was not of deliberate malice to deride him, rather to mock Mr Pentocost's stupid F1 team plan, if he decides to pursue a case in that direction I am so very screwed. I will find your address and send you the legal bill if it does come to that. Because that was just plain unnecessary and stupid. Don't you understand how these things work?

Hadn't thought of that. Identity theft I suppose?

Considering he did tweet pretty much every prominent figure in the paddock with that info, what you're worried about isn't totally outside the bounds of reality.

Overall, for a multitude of reasons, FMecha, that was a really, really stupid thing to do.

Not sure about identity theft, but defamation of character or somesuch is not out of the question, considering some of the comments (Xerox machine, FW34 blueprints, etc). I imagine Mike Coughlan wouldn't take such light-hearted ribbing very well. That said, if I were him I'd just want to leave Spygate in the past and just ignore the whole thing - if it does catch wind, it'll only be news for a day or two unless someone makes a big thing of it.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 07 Jul 2012, 03:54

Hey guys, I'm rejectful sometimes. Sorry for treating Pentecost's saying seriously, and sorry for that comment I posted. :oops:

I will nominate myself for Forums' Reject Of The Year.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Jul 2012, 11:14

FMecha wrote:Hey guys, I'm rejectful sometimes. Sorry for treating Pentecost's saying seriously, and sorry for that comment I posted.

I will nominate myself for Forums' Reject Of The Year.

The point still remains: why did you choose to ruin our fun, and risk a lawsuit?

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 07 Jul 2012, 14:00

pasta_maldonado wrote:
FMecha wrote:Hey guys, I'm rejectful sometimes. Sorry for treating Pentecost's saying seriously, and sorry for that comment I posted.

I will nominate myself for Forums' Reject Of The Year.

The point still remains: why did you choose to ruin our fun, and risk a lawsuit?

I was, mistakenly, and needlessly, treating it seriously. I don't have any intention to ruin everyone's fun. I repeat, I was mistakenly and needlessly treating Pentecost's statement seriously. :oops:

I will remove my post.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Jul 2012, 14:28

In fairness, if Coughlan sued me for defamation of character, I'd have Veritas on my side. He was proven to have copied Ferrari documents, he was part of Stefan GP for a brief period. For that, I'd win any court case, but it would be a massive inconvenience nonetheless if it did happen.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 07 Jul 2012, 21:13

"Your joke has some legal consequences. the only “rejects” are the losers that live off of f1 forums."

http://force1usa.com/williams-f1-contacts-force1usa/#comment-257

Mind you, the guy was dumb enough to believe it, despite it *clearly* being a joke.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 07 Jul 2012, 21:15

fjackdaw wrote:"Your joke has some legal consequences. the only “rejects” are the losers that live off of f1 forums."

http://force1usa.com/williams-f1-contacts-force1usa/#comment-257

Mind you, the guy was dumb enough to believe it, despite it *clearly* being a joke.

And he's apparently unable to distinguish between "living off of" and "occasionally frequenting".

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 07 Jul 2012, 21:42

fjackdaw wrote:"Your joke has some legal consequences. the only “rejects” are the losers that live off of f1 forums."

http://force1usa.com/williams-f1-contacts-force1usa/#comment-257

Mind you, the guy was dumb enough to believe it, despite it *clearly* being a joke.

Well, we had a good run.

Post by **Ataxia** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:00

Shag me sideways, didn't realise this happened...

...do we know any good lawyers? Otherwise, we're f**ked.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:01

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:Shag me sideways, didn't realise this happened...

...do we know any good lawyers? Otherwise, we're f**ked.

What's his case?

Post by **Ataxia** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:09

pasta_maldonado wrote:
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:Shag me sideways, didn't realise this happened...

...do we know any good lawyers? Otherwise, we're f**ked.

What's his case?

Fraud? Misrepresentation?

Of course, pleading insanity might work... :lol:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:21

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:Shag me sideways, didn't realise this happened...

...do we know any good lawyers? Otherwise, we're f**ked.

What's his case?

Fraud? Misrepresentation?

Of course, pleading insanity might work...

Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I don't beleive you can sue over false 'promises' on a comment on a website about a pipe dream

Post by **Ataxia** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:31

pasta_maldonado wrote:Now, I'm not a lawyer, but I don't beleive you can sue over false 'promises' on a comment on a website about a pipe dream

I'm messing, it should be fine. I mean, this Pentecost fella has no grounds to sue because technically, he has no assets relating to the 'F1 team' other than a website and 500 Twitter accounts. And a photograph of himself on a dirtbike.

I wouldn't imagine Coughlan would see it, as the tweets will get a) lost under mountains of other fans or b) be seen as the ravings of a crazed lunatic.

Who knows?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:38

I was afraid of Mike Coughlan suing me. But the American clown who runs this website?

This is absolute laugh a minute stuff!

Post by **Londoner** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:41

What is actually going on now?

Post by **Ataxia** » 07 Jul 2012, 22:47

East Londoner wrote:What is actually going on now?

The kettle...I'm parched from all this legal talk.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 07 Jul 2012, 23:34

Wow. In his recent posts,he's naming random multi-billionaires from all around the world as possible investors like as if they give a bathplug. It's like he searched the list of multi-billionaires list on Wikipedia and just naming them out one by one.