Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 09:53**

Inspired by a tangent in this thread: a discusion for the worst liveries of all time. Like that Xena: Warrior Prncess Tyrrell from 1997.

Discuss.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 10:31**

Two spring to mind - the awful BAR zipper, if your car is that crap then it's best not to draw attention to it by giving it the worst livery ever! The other one is the Brabham from 1992 as driven by a the most bizarre driver partnership I can remember - Giovanna Amati and Damon Hill!

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 10:37**

noisebox wrote:Two spring to mind - the awful BAR zipper, if your car is that crap then it's best not to draw attention to it by giving it the worst livery ever! The other one is the Brabham from 1992 as driven by a the most bizarre driver partnership I can remember - Giovanna Amati and Damon Hill! Link to picture here: http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/im ... -BT60B.jpg

And Eric Van Der Poele!!!

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 11:34**

What about the Honda Earth Dreams thing? That was a mess!

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 11:38**

Gilles27 wrote:What about the Honda Earth Dreams thing? That was a mess!

Brabham, BAR, Honda - looks like crap livery = crap car..

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 11:51**

To me, Brawn GP did not have a good livery, until Canon were on the sidepods, and then they were gone again, they seemed to have the 1992 march team sponsorship methods about them for brazil too.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 12:27**

I hated the red Williams of 1998/99, especially the Woody Woodpecker element.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 13:05**

I know I am fussy, but Mrs. Amati did not drive the bubble-gum brabahm livery. She left the team as the cars where still in brab´s traditional white/blue colors...
Or am I totally wrong ?
Rgds
Dave

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 13:12**

RaceFace wrote:I know I am fussy, but Mrs. Amati did not drive the bubble-gum brabahm livery. She left the team as the cars where still in brab´s traditional white/blue colors...
Or am I totally wrong ?
Rgds
Dave

http://f1rejects.com/drivers/amati/picture-index.html

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 13:46**

Gilles27 wrote:What about the Honda Earth Dreams thing? That was a mess!

I actually quite liked the look the 07' Honda when the car was still. But when moving it looked a mess because there was far too much detail in the design.

I absolutely detest the 08' livery though.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 13:56**

To be honest, I consider Brawn's livery to be rejectful. Never liked it.

But the absolute nadir of liveries has to be (what else?) Pacific 1994. Silver/gray with Fuchsia/Blue/Purple accents:

MY EYES!!!! :cry:

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 14:08**

I actually didn't mind that Pacific, although it looked a bit amateurish. Their blue livery in 1995 was a 100% improvement.

I agree on the Winfield Williams though - Williams cars should always be blue and white and nothing else.

I always though the Larrousse-Lolas from 1990 looked a real mess, and I wasn't a fan of Team Lotus's last couple of paint schemes either - too many logos and colours mashed together.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 14:46**

RaceFace wrote:I know I am fussy, but Mrs. Amati did not drive the bubble-gum brabahm livery. She left the team as the cars where still in brab´s traditional white/blue colors...
Or am I totally wrong ?
Rgds
Dave

You are right. I checked van de Poele profile and there you can see that the livery changed between Canadian and French races.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 15:50**

Brabham BT60, 1992

Tyrrell 014, 1985-1986

Minardi PS04, 2004 (sorry)

(AND SORRY AGAIN FOR THE DRIVER)

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 15:57**

Here's another shocker being driven by a legend in our own lunchtimes:

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:02**

Phoenix wrote:Tyrrell 014, 1985-1986

What's wrong with it?
looks pretty normal to me.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:16**

Ram-March 01 (1983)

AGS JH22 (1987)

TYRRELL 021 (1993)

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:17**

LucaPacchiarini wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Tyrrell 014, 1985-1986

What's wrong with it?
looks pretty normal to me.

It's a personal opinion; I exemplified with these 3 cars what I don't like in a livery:
-Garish colors that aren't attractive mixed together.
-Lack of sponsors, but not to the point the car is completely deprived (there's still some signage, and allocated without any sense or grace): ugly boringness.
-The opposite of the above thing: excess of sponsors, and all of the signage allocated more or less carelessly.
Apart from that, except the Minardi, both cars are ugly in design.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:19**

Just look at the first 3 cars...

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:20**

muttley wrote:But the absolute nadir of liveries has to be (what else?) Pacific 1994. Silver/gray with Fuchsia/Blue/Purple accents

MY EYES!!!!

It kinda suits the early 90's tho

I dont think any of the liveries mentioned so far are particularly bad, perhaps a little naff but at least there interesting. A reject livery in my eyes is boring and mostly white, I.E The Brawn, the 2008 Honda, the BMWs, the Williams BMWs, Every single Toyota bar the prototype, the 2008 Force India (such a step down from the well coloured Spyker) ect ect.

The only white car that was in any way interesting was the Stewarts, altho that had a few features on it

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:21**

I think 2008 Force Indias had a great color harmony.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:26**

kostas22 wrote:

Just look at the first 3 cars...

That's a good reminder of how awful all the aero devices were on those cars, as well as the bad liveries.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:26**

If Force India had ditched the gold they would have looked a lot better. Then again, the 2009 paint job looked a lot like the 1990 Coloni-Subaru!

Renault's liveries over the last two years have been fugly....and am I the only one who quite likes that 1993 Lola-BMS?

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:28**

Pieman wrote:Am I the only one who quite likes that 1993 Lola-BMS?

No, you aren't.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:28**

Minardi had in its books both the best and the worst as far as liveries are concerned.
The 1996/7 years were pretty poor in the looks department, but i think the 97 challenger takes the cake. White, Yellow and Black are Minardi's colours, but you need to know how to put them together. Mild Seven's blue made it all the more messy.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:29**

That Mastercard Lola from back in '97 was bloody awful. It never made it to the start of a race thankfully.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:32**

Lotus 107B

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:38**

Shadow DN9 with the lion livery

Arrows FA15

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:39**

Frentzen127 wrote:
Minardi had in its books both the best and the worst as far as liveries are concerned.
The 1996/7 years were pretty poor in the looks department, but i think the 97 challenger takes the cake. White, Yellow and Black are Minardi's colours, but you need to know how to put them together. Mild Seven's blue made it all the more messy.

I must jump in defense of this colour scheme. I loved it and found it the best alongside with Sauber's in 1997.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:43**

kostas22 wrote:Lotus 107B

I quite like that one - I think it maybe because I made the Tamiya model of it!

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:56**

thru personal opinon, never liked this one much. Possibly a kneejerk reaction from the loss of all the Benetton green.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 16:59**

kostas22 wrote:Lotus 107B

That's the one I meant above - different scraps of colour and logos floating all over the place with no proper design.

And I thought the MasterCard Lola livery was quite nice - not as attractive as the Shannon Forti though.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 17:07**

Martin Brundle's special livery in 1993 Japanese and Australian GPs.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 18:03**

elho wrote:

this livery pretty sums up everything that was wrong with the 90's

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 18:11**

Bleu wrote:Martin Brundle's special livery in 1993 Japanese and Australian GPs.

You may not know this, but this livery was designed by Hugo Pratt, a famous italian artist, recently deceased.
He was the author of various comic books and illustrations. Mostly known for the adventure comic "Corto Maltese".

A little unuseful trivia I know, but I like him so much

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 19:27**

Wow, I did miss the gitane artist´s "special-livery" back in 93. Thanks for updating me :-)

To me, it is honestly ugly....makes me think of a blue-white cow... :oops:

also the 1991 benetton was just dispointingly bland. But I think it just lacked a red touch between yellow-green-blue....The year before in 1990 the benettons looked soooo cool...Actually to me all cars before 1994 looked cool ...
:twisted:

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 19:30**

kostas22 wrote:Lotus 107B

I dont know why, and every criticism of the mass of advertising is justified, but I just loved that car. It looked fast and, occasionally, it was fast.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 19:31**

elho wrote:Arrows FA15

I quite liked that livery. Granted, its very early 90s style, but I still love it

But quite a lot of liveries nowadays are a bit plain. Brawn was a prime example (although seeing as they hadnt had time to find sponsors, thats semi-forgivable). But a lot of them seem to use white excessively now. Brawn, Toyota, Williams, BMW, Renault (who should go back to the 2005-06 style scheme IMO), Force india to a lesser extent.

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 19:35**

Why did nobody like the brawn outfit ? :ugeek:

I loved the plain white paired with the bold black stripes and the fluo-yellow.
Looked very clean to me. Also I loved the 1990´s Onyx´s, though they sported pink...

Posted: **25 Jan 2010, 19:41**

The grid probably looked its best at the start of 2002. Green Jaguars, Yellow Jordans, mostly Blue Renaults and Saubers, Orange Arrows, and red, white and darker shades dotted here and there on the rest. A very nice balance

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