Reject photos

Vepe · Post by **Vepe** » 04 Jan 2012, 23:53

dr-baker wrote:Those sidepods remind me of a 1995-spec Ligier or Benetton to me. Which would make sense, considering the TWR connection and the timing of Bridgestone's arrival in 1997...

Turns out I was wrong. Ligier JS41.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Jan 2012, 00:42

Vepe wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Those sidepods remind me of a 1995-spec Ligier or Benetton to me. Which would make sense, considering the TWR connection and the timing of Bridgestone's arrival in 1997...

Turns out I was wrong. Ligier JS41.

Glad I could be of assistance.

To be honest, as far as I was concerned, it could well have been a Benetton...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 05 Jan 2012, 00:58

dr-baker wrote:
Vepe wrote:
dr-baker wrote:Those sidepods remind me of a 1995-spec Ligier or Benetton to me. Which would make sense, considering the TWR connection and the timing of Bridgestone's arrival in 1997...

Turns out I was wrong. Ligier JS41.

Glad I could be of assistance. To be honest, as far as I was concerned, it could well have been a Benetton...

Didn't Damon Hill do some testing for Bridgestone at Suzuka with that car? Sure I've seen a picture or two before.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 05 Jan 2012, 05:11

AdrianSutil wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Vepe wrote:
Turns out I was wrong. Ligier JS41.

Glad I could be of assistance. To be honest, as far as I was concerned, it could well have been a Benetton...

Didn't Damon Hill do some testing for Bridgestone at Suzuka with that car? Sure I've seen a picture or two before.

From memory, I'm fairly sure he did.

EDIT: Here's your answer

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 05 Jan 2012, 05:21

And here is said test session:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIzCRm4h ... ata_player

S951 · Post by **S951** » 05 Jan 2012, 12:25

times set in that test where said to be good enough to put hill 4th on the grid for that years race in a 95 spec car

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 05 Jan 2012, 14:19

Thierry Boutsen's 1991 Ligier. Does it remind any of you - from this angle - of the most recent IndyCar chassis?

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 05 Jan 2012, 14:53

dinizintheoven wrote:Thierry Boutsen's 1991 Ligier. Does it remind any of you - from this angle - of the most recent IndyCar chassis?

It does a little bit: Thin front wing, skinny-yet-high front nose.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 05 Jan 2012, 21:55

AdrianSutil wrote:
dinizintheoven wrote:Thierry Boutsen's 1991 Ligier. Does it remind any of you - from this angle - of the most recent IndyCar chassis?

It does a little bit: Thin front wing, skinny-yet-high front nose.

This

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 06 Jan 2012, 13:30

AdrianSutil wrote:
dinizintheoven wrote:Thierry Boutsen's 1991 Ligier. Does it remind any of you - from this angle - of the most recent IndyCar chassis?

It does a little bit: Thin front wing, skinny-yet-high front nose.

I was thinking more of the bulbous bodywork.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 06 Jan 2012, 19:58

I've been looking for some F3000 race footage when I found this:
http://www.f3000.com/gallery.htm
This is a real gold mine of reject drivers

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 16 Jan 2012, 11:01

dinizintheoven wrote:
Faustus wrote:These will be the last ones until I come back from holiday. I've got 24 more. So expect more when I come back.

Good news to look forward to. This thread isn't reject gold, it's reject rhodium studded with black diamonds.

(Yes, rhodium costs more gram for gram than platinum. Much more and we'd be into the radioactive metals that will only be salvaged from a nuclear reactor.)

Glad to hear that you liked them! Another 81 to upload, again not all of them are rejects, but hopefully they will be of some interest to someone.

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 16 Jan 2012, 22:42

I'm amazed that no-one has yet picked up on this from that antsphoto set on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/antsphoto/5536981108/in/set-72157603593127249

Check out the discussion in the comments as well - an interesting addition to the mystery ...

This guy's photos (as well as the others that have been put up on this thread, especially by Faustus) leave me with mixed feelings, I must say. On one hand, how awesome that sites like Flickr allow people to share such gems instead of having them sitting in a photo album or in a box somewhere. On the other hand, I lament how much easier it was in the past to wander around, go to test days etc. and get great shots. These days it seems like organisers are intent upon spectators sitting in a fixed spot in a grandstand, miles away from the cars (such that you can't get a good shot without a 500mm lens), taking photos through fences etc. And not to mention the F1 entry list of yesteryear was so much more interesting than it is today!

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 16 Jan 2012, 22:47

And then there's this ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/antsphoto/2130314143/in/set-72157603524957990

I don't recall black front wings on a Super Aguri. And is it just me or does that look like an undersized, droopy little nosecone?

Post by **mario** » 17 Jan 2012, 00:11

eytl wrote:I'm amazed that no-one has yet picked up on this from that antsphoto set on Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/antsphoto/5536981108/in/set-72157603593127249

Check out the discussion in the comments as well - an interesting addition to the mystery ...

This guy's photos (as well as the others that have been put up on this thread, especially by Faustus) leave me with mixed feelings, I must say. On one hand, how awesome that sites like Flickr allow people to share such gems instead of having them sitting in a photo album or in a box somewhere. On the other hand, I lament how much easier it was in the past to wander around, go to test days etc. and get great shots. These days it seems like organisers are intent upon spectators sitting in a fixed spot in a grandstand, miles away from the cars (such that you can't get a good shot without a 500mm lens), taking photos through fences etc. And not to mention the F1 entry list of yesteryear was so much more interesting than it is today!

Whilst it does mean that there is a certain disconnect between the photographers and the cars themselves, the FIA has tightened up the regulations a lot after the death of Graham Beveridge due to a flying wheel passing through a gap in the catch fencing that had deliberately been left open for photographers to take pictures.
We also saw how close one camera operator came to serious injury recently in China when Buemi's wheels decided to part company with the car at high speed, and in the past there have been instances where spectators have been injured or even killed when debris has been thrown up from a collision and into an area where they may not be adequately protected. Is it excessive? Sometimes it is, but then again the FIA has probably taken the attitude that this is one instance where it is better to be cautious, even if it is frustrating.

On top of that there is also the aspect that the teams are increasingly wary of allowing other people to photograph their cars given how technical secrets can leak out that way (see the recent flurry of activity after the discovery of the front ride height adjuster that Renault have developed last year, not to mention Darren Heath's famous discovery of the McLaren turning brake system). What may look like innocent curiosity can sometimes have an ulterior motive, so it's inevitable that the teams want to cut out what might be considered to be industrial espionage.

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 23 Jan 2012, 14:37

This site is literally a treasure trove of classic/obscure F1 photos:
http://f1nostalgia.blogspot.com/

A few examples from the first few pages of posts:

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 23 Jan 2012, 15:00

MinardiFan95 wrote:This site is literally a treasure trove of classic/obscure F1 photos:
http://f1nostalgia.blogspot.com/

A few examples from the first few pages of posts:

That's the blog of my friend Rian Assis. He's Brazilian and although the overwhelming majority of the comments are in Portuguese, you clearly don't need to be able to read them to enjoy the photos. I've gone through even post of his on the blog. His photos are fabulous and he's got photos that I had never seen before.

S951 · Post by **S951** » 23 Jan 2012, 15:36

life racing a eurobrun! ish maybe not!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Jan 2012, 18:55

I love Claudio Langes there! It's like he's cruising the highway with his EuroBrun :lol:

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 23 Jan 2012, 20:28

Faustus wrote:That's the blog of my friend Rian Assis. He's Brazilian and although the overwhelming majority of the comments are in Portuguese, you clearly don't need to be able to read them to enjoy the photos. I've gone through even post of his on the blog. His photos are fabulous and he's got photos that I had never seen before.

I had to check, and sure enough, he had this one wrong - it was 1988, it was an Osella, but it was the wide, shovel-nosed FA1I, not the amusingly-named FA1L. My extremely limited grip of Portuguese meant I could dig out the confirmation in the comments.

FA1I IN 1987:

FA1I in 1988:

And of course:

Strangely, the FA1L was quite an elegant car for its day (and the FA1I wasn't). Pity it was so slow. Shove a Honda V6 in it, and I bet it wouldn't have FA1Led quite as much as it did.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 23 Jan 2012, 21:57

I don't think I've ever seen that white Osella livery before - it looks wrong!

As for the first 3 pictures, the first one is best, particularly as Giacomelli (presume it's him?) seems to have his hand up to indicate that he's running slowly. Would that actually be necessary in that car?!
I don't like the middle one though - think that must have been photoshopped....

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 24 Jan 2012, 01:46

Barbazza wrote:As for the first 3 pictures, the first one is best, particularly as Giacomelli (presume it's him?) seems to have his hand up to indicate that he's running slowly. Would that actually be necessary in that car?!
I don't like the middle one though - think that must have been photoshopped....

Look closely and you'll see Jacko is holding a rope tied to the airbox. That's right... the Life has had to be towed again! Note also the complete lack of Claudio Langes' helmet... his EuroBrun must have ground to a halt as well. Unless he's scarpered and that's a marshall in the car steering it to safety.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 24 Jan 2012, 20:20

Oh yeah....my brain is so engineered to gawp at bad F1 cars that I completely missed both of those facts! So both are probably almost stationary then, which is quite fitting.
I presume that isn't Langes - it looks more like Perry McCarthy actually!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 Jan 2012, 20:38

Barbazza wrote:Oh yeah....my brain is so engineered to gawp at bad F1 cars that I completely missed both of those facts! So both are probably almost stationary then, which is quite fitting.
I presume that isn't Langes - it looks more like Perry McCarthy actually!

Moreno perhaps using Langes' car as spare?

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 01 Feb 2012, 18:06

Midland

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 02 Feb 2012, 00:45

Nice photos guys!!!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 02 Feb 2012, 05:08

golic_2004 wrote:
Midland

And that was BEFORE the Midland guys resorted to actually ripping each other's front wings off :lol:

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 20 Feb 2012, 14:55

I really love reject cars from 80's and 90's. They're all really beautiful cars.

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 25 Feb 2012, 19:19

This picture is rare!

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Feb 2012, 19:32

wmetcalf68 wrote:This picture is rare!

So rare that's it's actually impossible to see the image? :lol:

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 25 Feb 2012, 19:35

East Londoner wrote:
wmetcalf68 wrote:This picture is rare!

So rare that's it's actually impossible to see the image?

Yep.

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 25 Feb 2012, 20:14

Here it is:

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 25 Feb 2012, 21:24

midgrid wrote:Here it is:

Thanks midgrid. A Life at Monaco!

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 26 Feb 2012, 03:44

wmetcalf68 wrote:
midgrid wrote:Here it is:

A Life at Monaco!

Litterlary, huh?

f1-gast · Post by **f1-gast** » 28 Feb 2012, 21:17

Probably a few know the story about the Tyrrell Test of Gabrielle Tarquini

f1-gast · Post by **f1-gast** » 28 Feb 2012, 21:34

The latest girl that tested a formula 1 car

The first ever Turkish Formula 1 driver Jason Tahincioglu.
Tested the Jordan/Midland EJ15 back in 2005 during the turkish GP.

Narain Karthikeyan during test in Juni 2001 at silverstone, with the Jaguar R2, with bobby Rahal on the photo if im right.

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 29 Feb 2012, 00:13

f1-gast wrote:The latest girl that tested a formula 1 car

What is her name?

Post by **tommykl** » 29 Feb 2012, 06:55

wmetcalf68 wrote:
f1-gast wrote:The latest girl that tested a formula 1 car

What is her name?

Maria de Villota, none other than the daughter of Emilio

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 29 Feb 2012, 20:29

tommykl wrote:Maria de Villota, none other than the daughter of Emilio

When did she this test?

wmetcalf68 · Post by **wmetcalf68** » 29 Feb 2012, 20:55

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
tommykl wrote:Maria de Villota, none other than the daughter of Emilio

When did she this test?

I'm guessing late 2011.