dr-baker wrote:But then, it is difficult to accept that the two most recent head/brain injuries to have occurred in Formula 1 cars themselves have both happed in Marussias... Coincidence? I hope for that outcome too.
I knew someone would come to this conclusion but I didn't expect it to be you Baker. Come on, you really think something is at work there? Daft suggestion.
Maybe. But did anyone notice that the first green flag lap was lap 10?
The conspiracy (or whatever it's called. Conspiracy just sounds best in here) has returned...
dr-baker wrote:But then, it is difficult to accept that the two most recent head/brain injuries to have occurred in Formula 1 cars themselves have both happed in Marussias... Coincidence? I hope for that outcome too.
I knew someone would come to this conclusion but I didn't expect it to be you Baker. Come on, you really think something is at work there? Daft suggestion.
Maybe. But did anyone notice that the first green flag lap was lap 10?
The conspiracy (or whatever it's called. Conspiracy just sounds best in here) has returned...
What's lap 10 got to do with it? Some stupid bollocks from another thread? Not being a complete idiot I also noted that the last two serious accidents happened to the same team but rather trivialising it into some fanciful in-joke I just thought it was a tonne of bad luck happening to the same guys.
dr-baker wrote:But then, it is difficult to accept that the two most recent head/brain injuries to have occurred in Formula 1 cars themselves have both happed in Marussias... Coincidence? I hope for that outcome too.
I knew someone would come to this conclusion but I didn't expect it to be you Baker. Come on, you really think something is at work there? Daft suggestion.
Maybe. But did anyone notice that the first green flag lap was lap 10?
The conspiracy (or whatever it's called. Conspiracy just sounds best in here) has returned...
Stooges pls, this is not the thread for this kind of stuff
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OK, let me phrase myself another way, in the way I actually think. OF COURSE IT'S A COINCIDENCE. And there's definitely no conspiracy. I just hope that it's not down to negligence, which equally I am currently 99% sure it isn't (which is what was running through my head when I made that last comment).
I hope that clears that up? And I do feel TheFlyingCaterham's comments took it a too far too.
watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
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TheFlyingCaterham wrote:Yea, sorry about that comment. I've been posting some kinda stupid posts lately (only 2 or 3, I think, but they're still stupid).
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watka wrote:I find it amusing that whilst you're one of the more openly Christian guys here, you are still first and foremost associated with an eye for the ladies!
dinizintheoven wrote:GOOD CHRISTIANS do not go to jail. EVERYONE ON FORMULA ONE REJECTS should be in jail.
I read earlier that Ferrari have sent a neurosurgeon to assess and assist in Bianchi's recovery which I thought was a nice show of support for his future.
Marussia really starts to feel like an actual continuation of Simtek's bad luck now. And that's not intended as being funny, just in case someone will think i have bad taste. It's just a worrying conclusion.
Reportedly, the g-force sensor on the car registered the deceleration of the crash at 92G. Bloody hell.
Forza Jules!
Fetzie on Ferrari wrote:How does a driver hurtling around a race track while they're sous-viding in their overalls have a better understanding of the race than a team of strategy engineers in an air-conditioned room?l
I would never take what Tobias Gruner says seriously. He's more often than not totally full of crap and is about as reliable as a L190 driven by Pastor Maldonado.
The update from his dad on BBC today is just heartbreaking to read. He is in a very bad way indeed. Whether he returns to racing is not important now - it's whether he can even wake up at the moment.
Maria De Villotta will forever be badass. Rest in Peace. Pulling for Schumi and Jules.
It's only a little over a week from the time the incident happened. That is way too early to tell anything. He is on his way to recovery and that's all that counts. Karl Wendlinger, Mika Häkkinen, Roberto Guerrero and Cristiano Da Matta all were in coma for up to several weeks for the swelling to go down. Patience is the virtue, obviously. May Jules Bianchi have a full recovery soon.
"I don't think we should be used to finance (the manufacturers') R&D because they will produce that engine anyway" said Monisha Kaltenborn. "You will never see a Mercedes using a Ferrari engine or the other way round."
Yannick wrote:It's only a little over a week from the time the incident happened. That is way too early to tell anything. He is on his way to recovery and that's all that counts. Karl Wendlinger, Mika Häkkinen, Roberto Guerrero and Cristiano Da Matta all were in coma for up to several weeks for the swelling to go down. Patience is the virtue, obviously. May Jules Bianchi have a full recovery soon.
Yannick wrote:It's only a little over a week from the time the incident happened. That is way too early to tell anything. He is on his way to recovery and that's all that counts. Karl Wendlinger, Mika Häkkinen, Roberto Guerrero and Cristiano Da Matta all were in coma for up to several weeks for the swelling to go down. Patience is the virtue, obviously. May Jules Bianchi have a full recovery soon.
Well, let's hope Jules recovers like Hakkinen did
Please, there's no need to use such platitudes and encourage false optimism. It isn't nice to read. Hakkinen fractured his skull, and it was a horrible accident, but his brain did not swell up. He was in a coma for less than 24 hours. He didn't have the same level of traumatic brain injury as Bianchi suffered. They're not on the same playing field. . Of course, it's my wish for Bianchi to make a great recovery, but to throw around such superlatives and hopelessly optimistic comparisons feels insensitive. There's well-wishing and there's blissful ignorance. Comparing Jules to these drivers who suffered harrowing accidents and then returned to racing, at this moment in time, just feels wrong, and completely the wrong priority.
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East Londoner wrote:Reportedly, the g-force sensor on the car registered the deceleration of the crash at 92G. Bloody hell.
Forza Jules!
G forces aren't the only source of injury otherwise the likes of Vitor Meira, Townsend Bell, and Elliott Sadler would have seen far worse injuries in their respective crashes as all were as violent if not worse in terms of G-forces with Meira and Sadler supposedly exceeding 100G. I wonder if F1 should have raced in that typhoon in the first place as it was worsening as the race progressed.
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East Londoner wrote:Reportedly, the g-force sensor on the car registered the deceleration of the crash at 92G. Bloody hell.
Forza Jules!
G forces aren't the only source of injury otherwise the likes of Vitor Meira, Townsend Bell, and Elliott Sadler would have seen far worse injuries in their respective crashes as all were as violent if not worse in terms of G-forces with Meira and Sadler supposedly exceeding 100G. I wonder if F1 should have raced in that typhoon in the first place as it was worsening as the race progressed.
I know Kenny Brack's crash in the IRL at Texas in '03 was 214G, which would be over double what Bianchi experienced, but Brack survived. So I doubt G-Forces means an enormous amount in Bianchi's case.
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Great news - Jules is now breathing unaided, and he was transferred to France last night. Still a long way to go in his recovery, but this is a big step.
Fetzie on Ferrari wrote:How does a driver hurtling around a race track while they're sous-viding in their overalls have a better understanding of the race than a team of strategy engineers in an air-conditioned room?l
East Londoner wrote:Great news - Jules is now breathing unaided, and he was transferred to France last night. Still a long way to go in his recovery, but this is a big step.
It's a welcome sign that things are moving in the right direction - it's still early on in what is likely to be a long process, but hopefully it is a sign that things are gradually getting better.
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning: "The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
Fetzie on Ferrari wrote:How does a driver hurtling around a race track while they're sous-viding in their overalls have a better understanding of the race than a team of strategy engineers in an air-conditioned room?l
As the anniversary of Jules's heroics at Monaco approaches, sadly his prognosis is still grim. It's gonna be an emotional weekend for the good folks at Manor, and how fitting would it be if Stevens or Merhi could snag a point or two in a chaotic race this Sunday.
Forza Jules.
Fetzie on Ferrari wrote:How does a driver hurtling around a race track while they're sous-viding in their overalls have a better understanding of the race than a team of strategy engineers in an air-conditioned room?l
CoopsII wrote:Reading his father say it's worse than if he'd died doesn't exactly make for a comfortable experience.
Come on now Jules, wake up.
Reading between the lines, it wouldn't surprise me if they turned off the life support machine should the doctors advise that he will never race again. Especially given the conversation his dad recalled in the wake of Schumacher's accident.
CoopsII wrote:Reading his father say it's worse than if he'd died doesn't exactly make for a comfortable experience.
Come on now Jules, wake up.
Reading between the lines, it wouldn't surprise me if they turned off the life support machine should the doctors advise that he will never race again. Especially given the conversation his dad recalled in the wake of Schumacher's accident.
Well, perhaps the decision might be based on a broader scope than just that but often quality of life is a factor in these terrible choices. As a parent I cannot imagine it.
I was thinking about all this a couple of days ago. It's clear that if this were 30 years ago, Jules would have been declared dead probably on the same day as the accident, and we'd have had our first F1 fatality for 20 years. But the technological and medical advances of recent years have allowed doctors to "save" patients with critical head injuries and give them a shot at recovery.
Unfortunately for Jules (and I feel for Michael as well) that recovery period has long since elapsed, and we're in a situation of limbo, as if he's neither alive nor dead. It must be horrific having to face that decision of potentially ending everything with your son lying there in a hospital bed. The sad reality is though, in hindsight, Jules left us on that rainy day at Suzuka.
Dunno if you guys have heard of the French footballer Jean-Pierre Adams, but Jules & Michael's situation does remind me of him (sadly) He's been in a coma for 32 years.
Awful story about the footballer but the length of his particular coma may be directly related to the specific cause (says CoopsII the neuro specialist - LOL).
Although he has been teetering on the edge for a painfully long time, it still comes as a shock for me to read this news. Two weeks short of what would have been his 26th birthday too.
