Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **29 Mar 2012, 20:20**

mediocre wrote:we discussed a lot about it and we both have no idea. Neither do about 100 other people I asked

We should ask HWNSNBM: he knows everything, so he has to know! :mrgreen:

Posted: **29 Mar 2012, 20:26**

dr-baker wrote:What happened to the original Simteks? Are there any in a museum somewhere which one of us could go to visit to check it out? (If a Simtek is on display anywhere in Britain this summer, I may be able to go and check it out...)

Is there one at the Grand Prix collection at Donnington? I've been meaning to go there for ages now as I'm only about half an hour from there at uni, so I was thinking of combining a visit there with a Touring Car round or something similar.

Posted: **30 Mar 2012, 10:01**

AndreaModa wrote:
dr-baker wrote:What happened to the original Simteks? Are there any in a museum somewhere which one of us could go to visit to check it out? (If a Simtek is on display anywhere in Britain this summer, I may be able to go and check it out...)

Is there one at the Grand Prix collection at Donnington? I've been meaning to go there for ages now as I'm only about half an hour from there at uni, so I was thinking of combining a visit there with a Touring Car round or something similar.

I can't confirm that one way or the other, but if there is, I would love to go! Particularly on a race weekend...

Posted: **30 Mar 2012, 18:25**

dr-baker wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:
dr-baker wrote:What happened to the original Simteks? Are there any in a museum somewhere which one of us could go to visit to check it out? (If a Simtek is on display anywhere in Britain this summer, I may be able to go and check it out...)

Is there one at the Grand Prix collection at Donnington? I've been meaning to go there for ages now as I'm only about half an hour from there at uni, so I was thinking of combining a visit there with a Touring Car round or something similar.

I can't confirm that one way or the other, but if there is, I would love to go! Particularly on a race weekend...

I should be going in April when the BTCC visit, it's £25 advance for the Sunday which is pretty good, I think there's 11 races in total on the day so I'm not sure when I'll squeeze a visit to the museum in! Hopefully the other half finds it remotely interesting! :lol:

Posted: **30 Mar 2012, 21:11**

AndreaModa wrote:I should be going in April when the BTCC visit, it's £25 advance for the Sunday which is pretty good, I think there's 11 races in total on the day so I'm not sure when I'll squeeze a visit to the museum in! Hopefully the other half finds it remotely interesting!

April is a busy month for me - holidays, uni assignments and exam revision! But maybe over the summer I might find the time...

Posted: **13 Apr 2012, 03:20**

I done some research. I cant see the sponsor on end place, its like wheel of fortune or so.

We got POCOS, ROCES, EAST, FOCUS, SASTINA POCOS, MASTRANA FOODS etc.

But It might be Roccobarocco, which sponsored the team in 1995. They are a fashion mob from Italy.

Thats my go anyway!

Posted: **13 Apr 2012, 15:34**

David AGS wrote:I done some research. I cant see the sponsor on end place, its like wheel of fortune or so.

We got POCOS, ROCES, EAST, FOCUS, SASTINA POCOS, MASTRANA FOODS etc.

But It might be Roccobarocco, which sponsored the team in 1995. They are a fashion mob from Italy.

Thats my go anyway!

But Roccobarocco is just one word, not two, and this is its logo:

Nothing who seems a German flag, so...

Posted: **13 Apr 2012, 17:13**

David AGS wrote:I done some research. I cant see the sponsor on end place, its like wheel of fortune or so.

We got POCOS, ROCES, EAST, FOCUS, SASTINA POCOS, MASTRANA FOODS etc.

But It might be Roccobarocco, which sponsored the team in 1995. They are a fashion mob from Italy.

Thats my go anyway!

It's not Roces for sure. They're an Italian company, they sponsored Forti, and their logo looks nothing like that. I don't have any better suggestions though unfortunately

Posted: **13 Apr 2012, 22:35**

I have seen that RB is their logo, but on the autocourse books I have from 1995, the roccobarocco is one word without the RB.

Like this picture (from our mother site shows). The logo beside the cockpit

http://www.f1rejects.com/drivers/schiat ... naco-1.jpg

Saying all that, I dont know how the German flag is involved

Posted: **13 Apr 2012, 22:42**

David AGS wrote:I have seen that RB is their logo, but on the autocourse books I have from 1995, the roccobarocco is one word without the RB.

Like this picture (from our mother site shows). The logo beside the cockpit

Saying all that, I dont know how the German flag is involved

And that photo shows no German-flag logo on the rear wing, so if the logo is them, it may tie in. But it is clearly (I think) a different font used in this photo compared to the rear wing logo.

Posted: **14 Apr 2012, 13:24**

dr-baker wrote:And that photo shows no German-flag logo on the rear wing, so if the logo is them, it may tie in. But it is clearly (I think) a different font used in this photo compared to the rear wing logo.

I think the font is different, me too.
Indeed roccobarocco is just one word, but I don't think that the sponsor we're looking for is just one word... In the picture that mediocre posted it seems that the second word's font has something different of the first word's one (maybe the word that could be Rocos, Pocos or something else, is written with a bold font)...

Posted: **15 Apr 2012, 22:27**

I talked about this sponsor with a friend of mine, who sent an email to the administrator of the ChicaneF1 website.
He wasn't able to identify the logo, but because of the interest for sponsors too of his website, he added a page about it here:

http://www.chicanef1.com/indiv.pl?name= ... 29%20Foods

Posted: **23 Apr 2012, 13:43**

Yesterday I asked a Japanese F1-fan friend, who shown me the image that you can see here:
http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa ... ice_newans
It seems the logo is "MARUTAMA FOODS". There's a Japanese company named so, and this is their website (unluckily all in Japanese):
http://www.marutama-net.co.jp/index2.html

Posted: **23 Apr 2012, 13:50**

That's it! The appearance of a German flag is in fact explained by the yellow/orange/brown colours on the website banner, and the name is very similar to other peoples' guesses so far! Nice work!

Posted: **23 Apr 2012, 15:13**

AndreaModa wrote:That's it! The appearance of a German flag is in fact explained by the yellow/orange/brown colours on the website banner, and the name is very similar to other peoples' guesses so far! Nice work!

Right, it wasn't a German flag in the end... I will thank my friend by all the forum. :-)

Posted: **23 Apr 2012, 23:08**

This company needs to sponsor a F1RWRS team now. :lol:

Posted: **24 Apr 2012, 10:56**

eurobrun wrote:This company needs to sponsor a F1RWRS team now.

for sure

Posted: **24 Apr 2012, 11:18**

Roccobarocco was way way off then!

Good get though.

Any other mystery logos there?

Once a while though, I put a similar reply on another forum (a rival, which doesnt exist any more!) about who are The Lost Boys.

Sure enough in about 15 mins I got a reply from like the head of PR for them explaining who they are etc.

Just a weird name for such a big company

Posted: **24 Apr 2012, 18:15**

Unbelievable - it took almost two years, but we finally know that mysterious sponsor

I wonder if mediocre is still keeping track of this thread so he can know that it was finally found...

Posted: **24 Apr 2012, 19:47**

Pointrox wrote:Unbelievable - it took almost two years, but we finally know that mysterious sponsor
I wonder if mediocre is still keeping track of this thread so he can know that it was finally found...

Maybe we can send him an e-mail to show him the answer...

Posted: **24 Apr 2012, 20:02**

Pointrox wrote:Unbelievable - it took almost two years, but we finally know that mysterious sponsor

The Formula One Detectives save the day again!

Posted: **25 Apr 2012, 10:28**

I think this topic is great. Another two, got to go with the 1996 teams.

Forti from Brazil and Argentina had HUDSON on the sidepods. Tarso Marques had the same in Brazil and Argentina, but a smaller logo on helmet.

Who are they? Just by being in South America, I presume they are from there.

Also, Marques in 1996 had Magnum. Is this the same Magnum from Alex Yoong in 2001????

Posted: **25 Apr 2012, 14:16**

David AGS wrote:I think this topic is great. Another two, got to go with the 1996 teams.

Forti from Brazil and Argentina had HUDSON on the sidepods. Tarso Marques had the same in Brazil and Argentina, but a smaller logo on helmet.

Who are they? Just by being in South America, I presume they are from there.

Also, Marques in 1996 had Magnum. Is this the same Magnum from Alex Yoong in 2001????

Do you have some pictures to post?

Posted: **25 Apr 2012, 14:22**

From a little site called F1 Rejects, Forti 1996 with Hudson logo

Posted: **25 Apr 2012, 14:35**

The Magnum that sponsored Yoong was Magnum Holdings bhd.

The Magnum that sponsored Tarso Marques was Relogios Magnum a Brazilian(?) watchmaker. You can see the word Relogios and the watch-shape logo on thispicture of Marques (characteristically retired).

No idea about Hudson though.

Posted: **25 Apr 2012, 19:53**

Marques was actually sponsored by Yoong's Magnum as well, because it appeared on the Minardi PS01s shortly before Yoong took over from Marques.

Hudson was/is an oil company, but its website is under construction, and seems to have been in this state for rather a long time.

Posted: **27 Apr 2012, 13:10**

simtek s941 @brooklands upside down but white livery

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/07/16/k ... camera-31/

s951s for sale

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/4 ... _team.html

iirc 4/5 s941s made 2 written off roland & andrea 1 is at brooklands still maybe 1 is in the hands of a dutch collector still in holland the other I don't know where abouts

Posted: **01 May 2012, 11:33**

Sorry guys, lost track a bit of this topic because I've been busy with other stuff lately.

But, Sunshine_Baby_[IT], seriously, you're my hero now.

Awesome job finding that one, you deserve a truckload of free beer. Cheers man, thank you.

As for mysterious sponsors, our 1994 project is still alive (albeit on hold right now) so we'll probably find something.

Posted: **01 May 2012, 14:09**

mediocre wrote:Sorry guys, lost track a bit of this topic because I've been busy with other stuff lately.

But, Sunshine_Baby_[IT], seriously, you're my hero now. Awesome job finding that one, you deserve a truckload of free beer. Cheers man, thank you.

As for mysterious sponsors, our 1994 project is still alive (albeit on hold right now) so we'll probably find something.

Thank you. :-)

Anyway look at this:

I was searching for Taki Inoue pictures and it seems that at Japanese grand prix 1994, Simtek had another sponsor called Marutama, on the rear wing! :shock:

Posted: **01 May 2012, 15:35**

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
mediocre wrote:Sorry guys, lost track a bit of this topic because I've been busy with other stuff lately.

But, Sunshine_Baby_[IT], seriously, you're my hero now. Awesome job finding that one, you deserve a truckload of free beer. Cheers man, thank you.

As for mysterious sponsors, our 1994 project is still alive (albeit on hold right now) so we'll probably find something.

Thank you.

Anyway look at this:

I was searching for Taki Inoue pictures and it seems that at Japanese grand prix 1994, Simtek had another sponsor called Marutama, on the rear wing!

Miss Sunshine_Baby_[IT], you are quite simply amazing.

Posted: **01 May 2012, 18:01**

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:Anyway look at this:

I was searching for Taki Inoue pictures and it seems that at Japanese grand prix 1994, Simtek had another sponsor called Marutama, on the rear wing!

I have a slightly higher-resolution version of this photo, and I think the sponsor could actually be Marutomo. The logo on this site is different to the one on the S941, but they both appear to be stylised versions of the letter "m", so one could therefore be an evolution of the other.

Posted: **01 May 2012, 20:02**

midgrid wrote:I have a slightly higher-resolution version of this photo, and I think the sponsor could actually be Marutomo. The logo on this site is different to the one on the S941, but they both appear to be stylised versions of the letter "m", so one could therefore be an evolution of the other.

It seems that Marutomo is a foods company too!

Posted: **01 May 2012, 20:04**

They were just a poor man's Forti, so infinitely jealous of Forti's backing from Parmalat :lol:

Posted: **01 May 2012, 20:11**

kostas22 wrote:They were just a poor man's Forti, so infinitely jealous of Forti's backing from Parmalat

You're probably right :-)

Posted: **02 May 2012, 09:16**

Great findings Sunshine_baby_[IT]! It seems Simtek took a load of personal sponsors on when running certain drivers in 1994. God knows what Jean-Marc Gounon brought :shock:

Just a shame that loads of little sponsors still made Simtek bleed money

Posted: **02 May 2012, 09:48**

AdrianSutil wrote:Just a shame that loads of little sponsors still made Simtek bleed money

Then clearly they were doing something wrong, becasue March had it right in Canada 1992

The only problem was...they only had sponsors for that one race all year and ran out of money anyway :lol:

Posted: **02 May 2012, 17:09**

Minardi tried it season-long in '94, to little success. The rejectful livery didnt help either

Posted: **02 May 2012, 17:23**

kostas22 wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Just a shame that loads of little sponsors still made Simtek bleed money

Then clearly they were doing something wrong, becasue March had it right in Canada 1992

The only problem was...they only had sponsors for that one race all year and ran out of money anyway

As a Canadian, I can tell you what the sponsors are on Wendlinger's March.

DISCOUNT: Rental car agency here in Canada. Nearest one to the track was in Saint Hubert, QC.
Motorola, CellularOne, Cellulaire: Telecommunications companies with rich racing histories. Motorola sponsored a street stock racing series from 1998-2000, called the Motorola Cup. Motorola went out of business in January 2011. CellularOne sponsored Joe Nemechek's NASCAR Busch Series teams for Joe and Canadian legend Ron Fellows. CellularOne was bought by AT&T in 2008. Cellulaire became Telus in 2006, IIRC.
Robert Allan: Naval Architecture firm based out of Vancouver.
Bill Edwards's Cheers: Local watering hole, with three locations at the time. The Original Cheers location on the west island was shut down in 2007, due to the Quebec Government by-laws prohibiting smoking in public places. There are two Cheers locations that are still running. One in Brossard and Pointe-Claire.
Manager Jeans: Canadian jeans-maker.
EBA Engineering Consultants: firm specializing in engineering, environmental and transportation solutions for the mining, energy, transportation and development sector, specifically in the North of Canada, near NorthWest Territories, Nunavut and Yukon.
FASA (Freedonian Aeronautics and Space Administration): Publisher of role playing games, such as BattleTech, MetalTech and Star Trek RPG.
Sportrack: American company specializing in ski and bicycle racks.

Unfortunately I can't make out the sponsor on the top of the March's sidepod. I hope you like my contributions.

Posted: **02 May 2012, 17:53**

SimtekFan32 wrote:Unfortunately I can't make out the sponsor on the top of the March's sidepod. I hope you like my contributions.

It's Chalet Suisse, the (rebranded) restaurant chain.

Posted: **02 May 2012, 18:18**

SimtekFan32 wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Just a shame that loads of little sponsors still made Simtek bleed money

Then clearly they were doing something wrong, becasue March had it right in Canada 1992

The only problem was...they only had sponsors for that one race all year and ran out of money anyway

As a Canadian, I can tell you what the sponsors are on Wendlinger's March.

DISCOUNT: Rental car agency here in Canada. Nearest one to the track was in Saint Hubert, QC.
Motorola, CellularOne, Cellulaire: Telecommunications companies with rich racing histories. Motorola sponsored a street stock racing series from 1998-2000, called the Motorola Cup. Motorola went out of business in January 2011 to be spun off into two independent companies (Motorola Mobility and Motorola Solutions). CellularOne sponsored Joe Nemechek's NASCAR Busch Series teams for Joe and Canadian legend Ron Fellows. CellularOne was bought by AT&T in 2008. Cellulaire became Telus in 2006, IIRC.
Robert Allan: Naval Architecture firm based out of Vancouver.
Bill Edwards's Cheers: Local watering hole, with three locations at the time. The Original Cheers location on the west island was shut down in 2007, due to the Quebec Government by-laws prohibiting smoking in public places. There are two Cheers locations that are still running. One in Brossard and Pointe-Claire.
Manager Jeans: Canadian jeans-maker.
EBA Engineering Consultants: firm specializing in engineering, environmental and transportation solutions for the mining, energy, transportation and development sector, specifically in the North of Canada, near NorthWest Territories, Nunavut and Yukon.
FASA (Freedonian Aeronautics and Space Administration): Publisher of role playing games, such as BattleTech, MetalTech and Star Trek RPG.
Sportrack: American company specializing in ski and bicycle racks.

Unfortunately I can't make out the sponsor on the top of the March's sidepod. I hope you like my contributions.

Motorola was spun off into two different companies according to Wikipedia (Mobility and Solutions). So fixed.

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