F1 Finals 2010*

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 03 Aug 2010, 20:25

*Alternate ending to the 2010 F1 season.

Let's lay down the rules before we start arguing over who does what.

- The top 12 points scorers after the Italian GP (Thats if the Korean GP gets cancelled, if not then the points after the Singapore GP)
- Points scorers 1st-4th get a bye in Flyaway 1 (Singapore/Japan)
- Points scorers 5th-12th will take part in "Wildcard Playoff", 5th vs 12th, 6th vs 11th and so on, in flyaway 1. (Singapore/Japan) Whoever finishes higher in the race gets through to the second round.
- Winners of wildcard playoffs will play-off against 1st-4th points finishers in flyaway 2 (Japan/Korea)
- Winners of each playoff will take part in semi-finals in flyaway 3 (Brazil)
- Grand Final at flyaway 4 (Abu Dhabi)

He'res a Better example of the elimination format with the current standings.

Wildcard playoffs (Flyaway 1 Singapore/Japan)
- WCP1 - Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) Vs Vitaly Petrov (Renault)/Kamui Kobayashi (Sauber) (VP and KK are tied on points currently)
- WCP2 - Felipe Massa (Ferrari) Vs Reubens Barrichello (Williams)
- WCP3 - Nico Rosberg (Merc) Vs Adrian Sutil (Force India)
- WCP4 - Robert Kubica (Renault) Vs Michael Schumacher (Merc)

Whoever finishes higher in the race advances to Quarter Finals

Quarter Finals (Flyaway 2 - Japan/Korea)

QF1 - Mark Webber (Red Bull) Vs <WINNER WCP4>
QF2 - Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) Vs <WINNER WCP3>
QF3 - Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) Vs <WINNER WCP2>
QF4 - Jenson Button (McLaren) Vs <WINNER WCP1>

Semi Finals (Flyaway 3 - Brazil)

SF1 - <WINNER QF1> Vs <WINNER QF4>
SF2 - <WINNER QF2> Vs <WINNER QF3>

Grand Final (Flyaway 4 - Abu Dhabi)

<Winner SF1> Vs <Winner SF2>

Of course, these head-to-heads take place within the flyaway venue's Grand Prix.

While all of this is happening, the points system still counts towards the constructors championship, and maybe even the drivers championship for direct comparison to the eventual Grand Final winner.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 04 Aug 2010, 07:15

Takuma Sato wins the title if that system had been in place in 2004!

Italy
Alonso vs. Massa
Montoya vs R Schumacher
Räikkönen vs Fisichella
Coulthard vs Sato

China
M Schumacher vs Sato
Barrichello vs Fisichella
Button vs Montoya
Trulli vs Massa

Japan
Sato vs Massa
Barrichello vs Button

Brazil
Sato vs Button

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 04 Aug 2010, 07:38

I KNEW it would work!!

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 04 Aug 2010, 10:13

Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 04 Aug 2010, 10:24

shinji wrote:Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated?

I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else gets me frustrated
Life's like this you
And you fall and you crawl and you break
and you take what you get and you turn it into honesty
and promise me I'm never gonna find you fake it

Sorry, you were asking for it... I'll go hang my head in shame in the next corner now.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 04 Aug 2010, 10:45

Bleu wrote:Takuma Sato wins the title if that system had been in place in 2004!

Italy
Alonso vs. Massa
Montoya vs R Schumacher
Räikkönen vs Fisichella
Coulthard vs Sato

China
M Schumacher vs Sato
Barrichello vs Fisichella
Button vs Montoya
Trulli vs Massa

Japan
Sato vs Massa
Barrichello vs Button

Brazil
Sato vs Button

Well, I think that's all the proof anyone needs that this is a fantastic idea.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 04 Aug 2010, 11:45

Gets a bit unfair when you have to include drivers who have lost their seat or are out injured (Trulli/Ralf in 2004)!

I'll do one for 2008 as there were no replacements that year:

The standings after Italy were:

1. Lewis Hamilton 78
2. Felipe Massa 77
3. Robert Kubica 64
4. Kimi Raikkonen 57
5. Nick Heidfeld 53
6. Heikki Kovalainen 51
7. Fernando Alonso 28
8. Jarno Trulli 26
9. Sebastian Vettel 23
10. Mark Webber 20
11. Timo Glock 15
12. Nelson Piquet Jnr 13

So Singapore:

WCP 1 Heidfeld v Piquet Jr. (bet he wouldn;t have crashed in that scenario!) :0
WCP 2 Kovalainen v Glock
WCP 3 Alonso v Webber
WCP 4 Trulli v Vettel

Japan:

QF1 Hamilton v Vettel
QF2 Massa v Alonso
QF3 Kubica v Glock
QF4 Raikkonen v Heidfeld

China:

Vettel v Raikkonen
Alonso v Kubica

Brazil:

Alonso v Raikkonen

So using that Alonso is 2008 champ having been nowhere until the last few races of the year....TERRIBLE idea. :lol:

Plus it's Alonso too.

Whis · Post by **Whis** » 04 Aug 2010, 12:20

Klon wrote:
shinji wrote:Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated?

I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else gets me frustrated
Life's like this you
And you fall and you crawl and you break
and you take what you get and you turn it into honesty
and promise me I'm never gonna find you fake it

Sorry, you were asking for it... I'll go hang my head in shame in the next corner now.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 04 Aug 2010, 13:03

I did 2000s titles and it was like following

2000 M Schumacher
2001 M Schumacher
2002 M Schumacher
2003 Räikkönen
2004 Sato
2005 Alonso
2006 Alonso
2007 Räikkönen
2008 Alonso
2009 Webber

Webber's title is quite interesting. Despite his dismal Japanese GP he wins it, since he was there against Timo Glock who did not start! I'll do 1990s soon and find out if there's other amazing things.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 04 Aug 2010, 13:31

1990s like this
1990 Boutsen
1991 Senna
1992 Berger
1993 Prost
1994 Schumacher
1995 Hill
1996 Schumacher
1997 Alesi
1998 Häkkinen
1999 Irvine

Some points of interest:
1994 it was Schumacher vs Hill. Hill would have needed to complete one lap after the clash to win. If system had been like that, he most likely would have done it even if car was not working
1999 If Ferrari's disqualification in Malaysia would have stood, Ralf Schumacher would have been champion, as the opponent in final was Barrichello.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 04 Aug 2010, 16:44

Bleu wrote:I did 2000s titles and it was like following

2000 M Schumacher
2001 M Schumacher
2002 M Schumacher
2003 Räikkönen
2004 Sato
2005 Alonso
2006 Alonso
2007 Räikkönen
2008 Alonso
2009 Webber

Webber's title is quite interesting. Despite his dismal Japanese GP he wins it, since he was there against Timo Glock who did not start! I'll do 1990s soon and find out if there's other amazing things.

JeanDenisAlcatraz · Post by **JeanDenisAlcatraz** » 04 Aug 2010, 20:20

This wrote:
Bleu wrote:I did 2000s titles and it was like following

2000 M Schumacher
2001 M Schumacher
2002 M Schumacher
2003 Räikkönen
2004 Sato
2005 Alonso
2006 Alonso
2007 Räikkönen
2008 Alonso
2009 Webber

Webber's title is quite interesting. Despite his dismal Japanese GP he wins it, since he was there against Timo Glock who did not start! I'll do 1990s soon and find out if there's other amazing things.

I feel that this needs repeating.

Post by **tommykl** » 05 Aug 2010, 11:36

Here are the 80's champions.

1980: Jones
1981: Laffite
1982: Watson
1983: Piquet
1984: Prost
1985: Rosberg
1986: Prost
1987: Johansson
1988: Prost
1989: Patrese

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 05 Aug 2010, 15:58

Can I take this as a hint that it's Reject-worthy? If Stefan Johannson and Takuma Sato can win it, who's to say that Vitaly Petrov or Kamui Kobayashi might win it in 2010...

Watch this space for the F1 Finals 2010 to start!!!

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 05 Aug 2010, 17:12

Alonso winning it in 2008 is bad enough!

IdeFan · Post by **IdeFan** » 05 Aug 2010, 17:23

Bleu wrote:Takuma Sato wins the title if that system had been in place in 2004!

Italy
Alonso vs. Massa
Montoya vs R Schumacher
Räikkönen vs Fisichella
Coulthard vs Sato

China
M Schumacher vs Sato
Barrichello vs Fisichella
Button vs Montoya
Trulli vs Massa

Japan
Sato vs Massa
Barrichello vs Button

Brazil
Sato vs Button

Of all the alternate championship systems this forum has produced, this one is by far the best!

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 08 Aug 2010, 15:17

For the 2010 F1 Finals there will be a 3rd/4th place Playoff for the defeated Semi-Finalists.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 21 Aug 2010, 00:29

It looks as if the Korean GP is actually going to take place, which means there are 3 points scoring rounds to go before the F1 Finals 2010 Wildcard Playoffs take place.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 21 Aug 2010, 15:12

ADx_Wales wrote:It looks as if the Korean GP is actually going to take place, which means there are 3 points scoring rounds to go before the F1 Finals 2010 Wildcard Playoffs take place.

If it would unexpectedly be cancelled anyway, of course you could retroactively make one of those into a Playoff.

BUT LET'S HOPE IT WON'T, because that will mean FOUR consecutive weeks of no racing. FOUR!! That's one more than this "summer break" this is supposed to be!!

Post by **tommykl** » 27 Aug 2010, 12:48

I did a complete recap of every season, so here's a ranking of world champions

5-time champions
Michael Schumacher - 1994, 1996, 2000-2002

4-time champions
Juan Manuel Fangio - 1954-1957
Alain Prost - 1984, 1986, 1988, 1993

3-time champions
Fernando Alonso - 2005-2006, 2008

2-time champions
Nino Farina - 1950, 1953
Alberto Ascari - 1951-1952
Graham Hill - 1962, 1968
Jim Clark - 1963, 1967
John Surtees - 1964, 1966
Jacky Ickx - 1969-1970
Emerson Fittipaldi - 1973-1974
James Hunt - 1976-1977
Jacques Laffite - 1978, 1981
Kimi Raikkonen - 2003, 2007

1-time champions
Mike Hawthorn - 1958
Tony Brooks - 1959
Jack Brabham - 1960
Stirling Moss - 1961
Dan Gurney - 1965
Ronnie Peterson - 1971
Denny Hulme - 1972
Niki Lauda - 1975
Gilles Villeneuve - 1979
Alan Jones - 1980
John Watson - 1982
Nelson Piquet - 1983
Keke Rosberg - 1985
Stefan Johansson - 1987
Riccarrdo Patrese - 1989
Thierry Boutsen - 1990
Ayrton Senna - 1991
Gerhard Berger - 1992
Damon Hill - 1995
Jean Alesi - 1997
Mika Hakkinen - 1998
Eddie Irvine - 1999
Takuma Sato - 2004
Mark Webber - 2009

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 Aug 2010, 14:29

tommykl wrote:1-time champions
Dan Gurney - 1965
Ronnie Peterson - 1971
Gilles Villeneuve - 1979
Takuma Sato - 2004
Mark Webber - 2009

I highly approve of these 5 championships.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 28 Aug 2010, 14:48

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
tommykl wrote:1-time champions
Dan Gurney - 1965
Ronnie Peterson - 1971
Gilles Villeneuve - 1979
Takuma Sato - 2004
Mark Webber - 2009

I highly approve of these 5 championships.

As well as

Eddie Irvine - 1999

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 28 Aug 2010, 15:01

Wonder if anything changes if you just do a straight top-16 shootout over the last 4 races (i.e. 1st v 16th, 2nd v 15th, 3rd v 14th etc.)?

I'd do it if I knew where I could find a website that told you points standings part-way through seasons gone by, but the only ones I know of just have them at season's end!

Post by **tommykl** » 28 Aug 2010, 15:16

James1978 wrote:Wonder if anything changes if you just do a straight top-16 shootout over the last 4 races (i.e. 1st v 16th, 2nd v 15th, 3rd v 14th etc.)?

I'd do it if I knew where I could find a website that told you points standings part-way through seasons gone by, but the only ones I know of just have them at season's end!

You can try at http://www.statsf1.com.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 28 Aug 2010, 15:31

This is a very entertaining championship format. Here's hoping that it gets reported about on the podcast. It's completely worth it - if solely for Sato's and Johansson's titles.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 28 Aug 2010, 16:19

If there were 26-32 competitors in an F1 season I would gladly go for a straightforward 16 driver knockout format, but I set this format up very close to the NFL Playoff/Superbowl format, the obvious difference being that there are no seperate AFC/NFCs in F1, that would just be pure madness (as if this format isn't madness enough!).

Perhaps in a parallel universe this format was set, maybe in the formative years of F1 when there were less rounds maybe it would be the top 8 only knocking eachother out in the final 3 rounds. But I dont want to complicate things, especially with STEFAN JOHANSSON as 1987 F1 Finals Champion.

Keep a fraction of your eyes looking at this thread for a catchup of drivers who have qualified for the finals, especially the top 4 who are bye'd to the Quarter Finals.

Post by **tommykl** » 28 Aug 2010, 17:17

A top 16 knockout would be very unpredictable and punishing. I did it solely for 1950, and the driver who won was none other than the one, the only, the great

LOUIS ROSIER!!!

Who?

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 28 Aug 2010, 19:20

tommykl wrote:Who?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Rosier

As the link provides the data, Monsieur Rosier was a privateer driver who raced mainly for his own team - and the driver who co-designed the Charade racetrack at Clermont-Ferrand.

Please go on with F1 Finals. There might be an interesting winner in 1951 as well.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 28 Aug 2010, 19:45

Code: Select all

- Old school 16 men knockout for 2009

Round 1:
*Jenson Button* vs. Adrian Sutil
*Jarno Trulli* vs. Felipe Massa --> Win by default, Italian press print headline "You Screwed Felipe"
*Rubens Barrichello* vs. Robert Kubica
*Lewis Hamilton* vs. Heikki Kovalainen
*Sebastian Vettel* vs. Giancarlo Fisichella
Nico Rosberg vs. *Fernando Alonso*
*Mark Webber* vs. Nick Heidfeld
Kimi Räikkönen vs. *Timo Glock*

Quarterfinal:
Jenson Button vs. *Jarno Trulli*
Rubens Barrichello vs. *Lewis Hamilton*
*Sebastian Vettel* vs. Fernando Alonso
*Mark Webber* vs. Timo Glock

Semifinal:
Jarno Trulli vs. *Lewis Hamilton* ---> At least this one would have explained Jarno's rage
Sebastian Vettel vs. *Mark Webber*

Third Place Playoff:
Jarno Trulli vs. *Sebastian Vettel*

Final:
*Mark Webber* vs. Lewis Hamilton

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- Old school 16 men knockout for 2008:

Round 1:
*Lewis Hamilton* vs. David Coulthard
Jarno Trulli vs. *Sebastian Vettel*
Felipe Massa vs. *Kazuki Nakajima* ---> Results speak for themselves
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Mark Webber
Robert Kubica vs. *Nico Rosberg*
Heikki Kovalainen vs. *Timo Glock*
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Rubens Barrichello
*Nick Heidfeld* vs. Nelson Piquet Jr.

Quarterfinal:
Lewis Hamilton vs. *Sebastian Vettel*
Kazuki Nakajima vs. *Fernando Alonso*
*Nico Rosberg* vs. Timo Glock
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Nick Heidfeld

Semifinal:
Sebastian Vettel vs. *Fernando Alonso*
Nico Rosberg vs. *Kimi Räikkönen*

Third Place Playoff:
*Sebastian Vettel* vs. Nico Rosberg

Final:
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Kimi Räikkönen ---> Three seconds, so the championship would have been close that year as well - yet no change again

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- Old school 16 men knockout for 2007

Round 1:
*Lewis Hamilton* vs. Jenson Button
Giancarlo Fisichella vs. *Alexander Wurz*
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Takuma Sato ---> Vengeance for Canada, eh?
Heikki Kovalainen vs. *Nico Rosberg*
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Ralf Schumacher
Robert Kubica vs. *Mark Webber*
*Felipe Massa* vs. Jarno Trulli
*Nick Heidfeld* vs. David Coulthard

Quarterfinal:
*Lewis Hamilton* vs. Alexander Wurz
Fernando Alonso vs. *Nico Rosberg*
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Mark Webber
*Felipe Massa* vs. Nick Heidfeld

Semifinal:
Lewis Hamilton vs. *Nico Rosberg*
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Felipe Massa

Third place playoff:
Lewis Hamilton vs. *Felipe Massa*

Final:
Nico Rosberg vs. *Kimi Räikkönen* ---> Valid effort by Rosberg, but useless against Ferrari

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- Old school 16 men knockout for 2006:

Round 1:
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Nico Rosberg
*Rubens Barrichello* vs. Nick Heidfeld
*Michael Schumacher* vs. Mark Webber
Juan Pablo Montoya vs. *Ralf Schumacher* ---> Literally no contest
*Felipe Massa* vs. Jacques Villeneuve
*Jenson Button* vs. Pedro De La Rosa
*Giancarlo Fisichella* vs. Jarno Trulli
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. David Coulthard

Quarterfinal: 
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Rubens Barrichello
*Michael Schumacher* vs. Ralf Schumacher
Felipe Massa vs. *Jenson Button*
*Giancarlo Fisichella* vs. Kimi Räikkönen

Semifinal:
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Michael Schumacher
Jenson Button vs. *Giancarlo Fisichella*

Third Place Playoff:
Michael Schumacher vs. *Jenson Button*

Final:
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Giancarlo Fisichella ---> And from that day onwards, Fisichella became the ultimate symbol of "#2 driver"

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- Old school 16 men knockout for 2005:

Round 1:
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Jacques Villeneuve
*Rubens Barrichello* vs. Nick Heidfeld
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Alexander Wurz
Ralf Schumacher vs. *Mark Webber*
Michael Schumacher vs. *Tiago Monteiro* ---> I really don't know what to say
Giancarlo Fisichella vs. *Jenson Button*
Juan Pablo Montoya vs. *Felipe Massa*
*Jarno Trulli* vs. David Coulthard

Quarterfinal:
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Rubens Barrichello
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Mark Webber
Tiago Monteiro vs. *Jenson Button* ---> The dream is over...
*Felipe Massa* vs. Jarno Trulli

Semifinal:
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Fernando Alonso
*Jenson Button* vs. Felipe Massa

Third Place Playoff:
*Fernando Alonso* vs. Felipe Massa

Final:
*Kimi Räikkönen* vs. Jenson Button

Well, as these five seasons show, a simple one-on-one fight barely makes any difference in the battle for the title, one different champion over five years.

Post by **tommykl** » 28 Aug 2010, 19:51

Yannick wrote:
tommykl wrote:Who?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Rosier

As the link provides the data, Monsieur Rosier was a privateer driver who raced mainly for his own team - and the driver who co-designed the Charade racetrack at Clermont-Ferrand.

Please go on with F1 Finals. There might be an interesting winner in 1951 as well.

Of course I know who he is, I just did that to add to the wtf effect. That, or I'm just not funny.

Anyway, Ascari wins it in 1951 (boring!).

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 28 Aug 2010, 20:04

I've never heard of Louis Rosier.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 29 Aug 2010, 17:08

shinji wrote:I've never heard of Louis Rosier.

Well, before this thread, neither had I. I guess that's probably because he's from a bygone era.

And who would have won in the remaining seasons of the 50s and 60s?

Post by **tommykl** » 29 Aug 2010, 17:39

Yannick wrote:
shinji wrote:I've never heard of Louis Rosier.

Well, before this thread, neither had I. I guess that's probably because he's from a bygone era.

And who would have won in the remaining seasons of the 50s and 60s?

I'll do this tomorrow, hope to get the results posted in the evening. Top 16 will be used where possible. If not, the top 8 will be used.

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Aug 2010, 11:29

So, with a straight top 16 shootout, here are the results from 1950-1969. * dennotes a change from the original champion.
1950: Louis Rosier*
1951: Alberto Ascari
1952: Alberto Ascari
1953: Nino Farina
1954: Juan Manuel Fangio
1955: Juan Manuel Fangio
1956: Juan Manuel Fangio
1957: Juan Manuel Fangio
1958: Jean Behra*
1959: Tony Brooks
1960: Jack Brabham
1961: Stirling Moss
1962: Graham Hill
1963: Jim Clark
1964: Dan Gurney*
1965: Dan Gurney
1966: Jim Clark*
1967: Jim Clark
1968: Graham Hill
1969: Jacky Ickx

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 Aug 2010, 15:30

tommykl wrote:1966: Jim Clark*

That's pretty shocking, considering the Lotus (or at least the engine) was a dog in '66. Who was he up against?

Post by **tommykl** » 30 Aug 2010, 15:45

OK.
Due to lack of points scorers, only the top 8 could qualify for the shootout, which would begin with 3 races to go. Drivers were seeded, which meant that the quarters would see matches where the sum of the seeds would add up to 9 (1st v. 8th). Assuming the top seeds in each match won, it should then add up to a total of 5 in the semis, and 3 in the finals, meaning the top 2 with 3 races to go would be in the final.

Here are the seeds with 3 races left.
1. Jack Brabham
2. Graham Hill
3. John Surtees
4. Jochen Rindt
5. Jackie Stewart
6. Lorenzo Bandini
7. Denny Hulme
8. Jim Clark

Quarters
Jack Brabham (Ret, 7 laps) v Jim Clark (Ret, 58 laps)
Jochen Rindt (4th) v Jackie Stewart (Ret)
John Surtees (Ret, 31 laps) v Lorenzo Bandini (Ret, 33 laps)
Graham Hill (Ret) v Denny Hulme (3rd)

Semis
Jim Clark (1st) v Jochen Rindt (2nd)
Lorenzo Bandini (Ret, 34 laps) v Denny Hulme (Ret, 18 laps)

Final
Jim Clark (Ret) v Lorenzo Bandini (Did not participate)

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 02 Sep 2010, 23:24

The Flight to the Finals Roundup:

All drivers currently competing in the 2010 F1 season have a mathematical possibilty of getting into the Wildcard Playoffs.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 03 Sep 2010, 17:27

ADx_Wales wrote:The Flight to the Finals Roundup:

All drivers currently competing in the 2010 F1 season have a mathematical possibilty of getting into the Wildcard Playoffs.

*Bruno Senna follows in uncle Ayrton's footsteps, only completely outdoing him by winning in his first season with a far, far inferior car* :mrgreen:

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 03 Sep 2010, 20:17

The Battle for the Byes:

There are currently 8 Drivers with a mathematical chance of getting a bye from the first round of playoffs:

Lewis Hamilton 182
Mark Webber 179
Sebastien Vettel 151
Jenson Button 149
Fernando Alonso 141
Felipe Massa 109
Robert Kubica 104
Nico Rosberg 102

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Sep 2010, 01:02

ADx_Wales wrote:The Flight to the Finals Roundup:

All drivers currently competing in the 2010 F1 season have a mathematical possibilty of getting into the Wildcard Playoffs.

Sakon Yamamoto could be World Champion :shock: