1905 AAA National Motor Car Championship (Rejectified)

[satsuki4]

It's 1904. A new organization, the American Automobile Association, has been founded 2 years ago. This year, they have hosted many car races all across the United States with much success. Despite a rivalry with the Automobile Club of America, the AAA has been growing in membership and its board decided to host a national championship next year. Which brave American (or foreigner ) is proud enough to participate? We shall see.

For now, I do have some organization things to talk about:
- Much like girry's Alt-1920's, this series will focus mostly on the political side of the sport.
- Participants can choose to either run a factory team for an up-and-coming or already established brand, or become a privateer and go for glory with themselves behind the wheel.
- The schedule for this alternate 1905 will be mostly the same as the one from real 1905, but in next seasons you will be able to vote for your own suggestions to expand the schedule. (Though we're obviously not axing stuff like the Indy 500 or the Vanderbilt Cup. )
- Fictional drivers ARE allowed, but only if they are introduced in the first season. This is due to the fact that only 21 drivers signed up for any race in the real championship, which is a little low. By 1909 the number grows to a whopping 160, so that's why they are only allowed in 1905 - though if they survive the first season, they're fair game from that point onward.

For now that's all the important news, so before I launch the signups...who's interested?

[Pinkd56]

I am interested!

[Aislabie]

Yes

[Shawn040217]

Count me in!!!!

[Salamander]

Sure, I'll give this a go.

[BurningBlaze05RaweCeek]

I'm interested!

[Forti]

Oh yes I am interested!

[FalconCapelli]

I am interested...

[CaptainGetz12]

I am interested!

[NickyDustyOwl]

Interested!

[satsuki4]

Alright, it's time to start the signups! I'll be generous - I'll give you time until next Friday, 23:59 CET.

Some ground rules for signups:

- If you wish to run a factory team, simply name one of the manufacturers provided in the sheet at the end of this message. First come, first serve!
- If you wish to run as a privateer team (which doesn't have to be grounded in reality at all), please use the following template:

Team Name:
Team Owner:
Will the Owner drive the car himself?:
Starting car:

- Don't worry about the budget issues yet - we'll get to it once the signups close.
- As the person running the entire thing, I reserve the right to participate as Christie - don't try picking it.
- Additionally, I reserve the right to reject any overly ridiculous privateer team submissions, though I don't think I'll be actually using said rule.
- Finally, on the signup papers are some questions regarding the future of AAA racing as a whole. Please answer them in the message containing your signup. The questions are as follows:

1. This season is being ran exclusively on ovals. Should that stay as the status quo, or should street courses join the schedule in coming years?
2. The current limit of drivers per team is 2, however there are plans to increase said limit to 3 within the next 5 years. Do you agree with this decision?
3. This year's schedule will be 12 races long. In the coming years, should that number increase, decrease or stay around the same?
4. The championship will crown the series winning driver as the National Champion. Should such an award be constituted for the best manufacturer as well?

MANUFACTURER LIST (and real-life drivers for later if you care): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

With that, I officially declare the 1905 AAA signups as OPEN! Do your worst.

[dr-baker]

Ovals are a bit anachronistic aren't they? Unless they are dirt tracks. Indianapolis was the first purpose built oval in the USA in 1911, and Brooklands in England was 1909.

Although you have added the word rejectified to the title of the thread so there is that!

[satsuki4]

Ovals are a bit anachronistic aren't they? Unless they are dirt tracks. Indianapolis was the first purpose built oval in the USA in 1911, and Brooklands in England was 1909.

Although you have added the word rejectified to the title of the thread so there is that!

Yeah, the ovals are all either dirt tracks, or temporary venues built with wooden boards. Top-notch infrastructure and all that.

[NickyDustyOwl]

I'm going to go for the Peerless team please : )

[Loadsamoney]

Give me Pope-Toledo, I like that name. As for the questions:

1. Street circuits would be nice in small doses. Just one or two would do.

2. Good decision, though I wouldn’t mind a complete removal of the limit

3. 12 Races is a good number to start , but a few more can’t hurt

4. Yes

[FalconCapelli]

I would like to race as a privateer please, hopefully this is the right way to sign up...

Team Name: Harry Ganassi Racing
Team Owner: Harry Ganassi (Fictional Driver)
Will the Owner drive the car himself?: Yes
Starting car: Renault

[satsuki4]

I would like to race as a privateer please, hopefully this is the right way to sign up...

Team Name: Harry Ganassi Racing
Team Owner: Harry Ganassi (Fictional Driver)
Will the Owner drive the car himself?: Yes
Starting car: Renault

It is - don't worry, Falcy. Accepted!

[FalconCapelli]

I would like to race as a privateer please, hopefully this is the right way to sign up...

Team Name: Harry Ganassi Racing
Team Owner: Harry Ganassi (Fictional Driver)
Will the Owner drive the car himself?: Yes
Starting car: Renault

It is - don't worry, Falcy. Accepted!

That is good to know ^^ Also I've forgot my driver's date of birth, which is 24.05.1881 He is from San Diego, California.

[Forti]

Team Name: Stanley-Goodridge Racing Partnership (Manufacturer team with extra steps, see below)
Team Owner: Paul Goodridge (born 8 July 1878 in Boston, Massachusetts)
Will the Owner drive the car himself: Yes
Starting car: Stanley Steamer IS YOUR CERTIFIED CLEAAANERRR!!!

The Goodridge family had fingers in many pies throughout the American Gilded Age. Like your typical Gilded Age bigwigs, there's aspects to their dealings they'd rather sweep under the rug. The Goodridge's youngest child Paul has used his family's influence to strike up a deal to become the official Stanley racing team. He will also drive one of the Stanley cars because it's fun.

Yes to all 4 questions. That means street circuits please.

[Salamander]

Ovals are a bit anachronistic aren't they? Unless they are dirt tracks. Indianapolis was the first purpose built oval in the USA in 1911, and Brooklands in England was 1909.

Although you have added the word rejectified to the title of the thread so there is that!

Most tracks in the very early American motorsport days were simply horse racing tracks - which, as I'm sure we all know, are themselves ovals, and (as far as I'm aware) pretty much always dirt - in fact, Indianapolis itself held a race on dirt as early as 1909, before being 'paved' (with bricks, of course) in 1911. Dirt ovals have been a core aspect of American motorsports since its inception.

Also someone here needs to make sure we don't accidentally break reality so I'll bite the bullet

Team Name: Louis Chevrolet
Team Owner: Louis Chevrolet
Will the Owner drive the car himself?: Y
Starting car: Fiat

1. Yes, historically speaking there were races on street circuits in 1909, so that's not an extraordinary stretch to add them a year or two earlier.
2. Yes, but I would prefer to see the limit not rise above 3, I don't think "super-teams" or 4 or 5 cars are very realistic in this era - though I could be wrong.
3. Increase - the schedule was about 15-20 races most years for a decade or so afterward, so it would seem the interest was there in the early days.
4. Yes, I don't see why not.

[BurningBlaze05RaweCeek]

Am I doing this right?

Team Name:Bouchard Racing
Team Owner:Guillaume Bouchard (born 12th February 1897, Lausanne, Switzerland)
Will the Owner drive the car himself?:Yes
Starting car:Renault (idk what a starting car is tho, so I hope I got this correct)

1. Street courses seem interesting, but perhaps in a few years or so

2. YES

3. Stay the same

4. Yep


Edit:Bouchard was born in 1887, my bad

[Nuppiz]

Am I doing this right?

Team Name:Bouchard Racing
Team Owner:Guillaume Bouchard (born 12th February 1897, Lausanne, Switzerland)
Will the Owner drive the car himself?:Yes
Starting car:Renault (idk what a starting car is tho, so I hope I got this correct)

1. Street courses seem interesting, but perhaps in a few years or so

2. YES

3. Stay the same

4. Yep

You might want to have another look at your team owner's birthdate... I don't think eight-year-olds know much about automotive business.

[satsuki4]

Am I doing this right?

Team Name:Bouchard Racing
Team Owner:Guillaume Bouchard (born 12th February 1897, Lausanne, Switzerland)
Will the Owner drive the car himself?:Yes
Starting car:Renault (idk what a starting car is tho, so I hope I got this correct)

1. Street courses seem interesting, but perhaps in a few years or so

2. YES

3. Stay the same

4. Yep

Yeah, you might want to make yourself older than 8 years old.

Otherwise it's fine - the starting car means the car I shall grant you for the start as a privateer, because I want to be nice and don't want you spending all your money immediately.

[BurningBlaze05RaweCeek]

Am I doing this right?

Team Name:Bouchard Racing
Team Owner:Guillaume Bouchard (born 12th February 1897, Lausanne, Switzerland)
Will the Owner drive the car himself?:Yes
Starting car:Renault (idk what a starting car is tho, so I hope I got this correct)

1. Street courses seem interesting, but perhaps in a few years or so

2. YES

3. Stay the same

4. Yep

You might want to have another look at your team owner's birthdate... I don't think eight-year-olds know much about automotive business.

Oops, my bad

[satsuki4]

Well, we have some teams ready. As such, I think it's time to hire drivers to drive the toys you folks have.

Some ground rules:

- Like I mentioned earlier, there is a strict limit of 2 drivers per team.
- The drivers are quite happy to drive for free! The AAA has already come up with a plan to pay them handsomely for being involved with the sport. However, a bit of money will likely go a long way to ensuring their services and persuading them not to sign with anyone else.
- You should probably approach multiple people for one team spot - a safety measure to ensure everyone doesn't reject you.
- Team owners are quite obviously off-limits for other teams to sign.
- IMPORTANT NOTE: If a driver is based outside of North America (which I will assume for every foreign driver whose current residence is not known; does not include misters Chevrolet and Bouchard who as team owners already immigrated), they will have to immigrate into the USA by ship. The AAA is happy to pay for the tickets themselves, but whether the signups make the trip over the Atlantic in one piece remains a question to be answered by the RNG gods.

Once again, the list of drivers available is in the document linked here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing - I've taken some liberties and added a few more drivers because I'm so nice.

I'll give you....until the end of the month for the first round of signings, but you are happy to fill in your slots until the season starts proper. Of course, if a slot is not filled until then (or someone perishes which might be likely), you are welcome to make some mid-season signings. Have fun!

[Forti]

Stanley-Goodridge Racing Partnership bids (one to be hired as Paul Goodridge's teammate, in order of preference):

Barney Oldfield with a $500 salary
George Draper with a $100 salary
Ralph Coburn with a $100 salary
Frank Durbin with a $100 salary

[Aislabie]

I wish to sign up as Napier.

For drivers, I would like to approach:

• Selwyn Edge (GBR) - $800
• Christian Lautenschlager (DEU) - $400
• Manfred Oxenham (USA, fictional) - $200

The following responses are in character:

1. This season is being ran exclusively on ovals. Should that stay as the status quo, or should street courses join the schedule in coming years?

I think that when the Vanderbilt Cup and American Grand Prize come to be, it would be right and proper for them to be a part of the National Championship.

2. The current limit of drivers per team is 2, however there are plans to increase said limit to 3 within the next 5 years. Do you agree with this decision?

I am neither for nor against this measure. Surely it should be a matter for the event promoters to decide on such things?

3. This year's schedule will be 12 races long. In the coming years, should that number increase, decrease or stay around the same?

As racing becomes the primary sport on our Continent, it is only natural for the calendar to grow. However, we must also consider which events merit inclusion in the National Championship.

4. The championship will crown the series winning driver as the National Champion. Should such an award be constituted for the best manufacturer as well?

For the teams, this is a matter of business whereas for the drivers it is a matter of honour. The title of National Champion should be conferred only on a driver.

[Loadsamoney]

Pope-Toledo driver bids, in order of how much I want them.
Herbert Lytle ($350)
Guy Vaughan ($200)
William Wallace Jr ($100)
Elmo Page (Fictional, Framingham Massachusetts, 17.4.1883) (#100)

[FalconCapelli]

Harry Ganassi Racing is interested to bid 3 drivers. (as Ganassi is the number one, he only needs a great and reliable teammate) The bid preferences are:

A.C. Webb with a $400 salary
William Wallace, Jr. with a $300 salary
Albert Cambell with a $275 salary

(OOC I have forgot to answer the questions in the first post Oops :/ )

1. This season is being ran exclusively on ovals. Should that stay as the status quo, or should street courses join the schedule in coming years?

I think street courses and ovals should co-exist with each other, after all if a driver is not up to par for the ovals, the driver in question should try their luck in the street courses.

2. The current limit of drivers per team is 2, however there are plans to increase said limit to 3 within the next 5 years. Do you agree with this decision?

Why the driver cap stops at 3? It should be increased to 4 and that should be the hard limit. (Of course this is a personal opinion)

3. This year's schedule will be 12 races long. In the coming years, should that number increase, decrease or stay around the same?

The number should increase however 16 races should be the sweet spot for the calendar.

4. The championship will crown the series winning driver as the National Champion. Should such an award be constituted for the best manufacturer as well?

This will bring more incentive for the manufacturers therefore more brands will race, which is great for the series so why not?

[CaptainGetz12]

Alright, my entry:

I wish to run Maxwell.

I will approach the following drivers (Bid until I have 2):

Montague Roberts ($100 salary)
William Wallace, Jr. ($100 salary)
J.A. Crowell ($100 salary)
Joe Tracy (No salary)

On votes:

1) I am fine with the status quo.
2) I would prefer to keep the number of drivers at 2 for the season, but would be open to 3 drivers per team for next season!
3) I think the schedule should stay the same.
4) This a contest of drivers, not vehicles. AAA should stay a Drivers Championship only.

[NickyDustyOwl]

We're going to make a singular bid to Barney Oldfield, with a salary offer of $1250 and this comes with full factory support as our sole driver

As for your questions...

1. Yes
2. YES
3. Should increase slightly
4. Its only best for business

[satsuki4]

The driver signings are in! The RNG gods have spoken, and here are the results:

- Barney Oldfield decided that the giant paycheck from Peerless is enough to sway him their way.
- With Oldfield and George Draper rejecting them, Stanley-Goodridge Racing Partnership has managed to convince Ralph Coburn to drive for them this year. Of course, he'll be riding alongside Paul Goodridge himself.
- Napier has secured the services of Great Britain's own Selwyn Edge and Manfred Oxenham for 1905.
- Pope-Toledo has signed Herbert Lytle and Guy Vaughan.
- Maxwell has managed to convince William Wallace, Jr. and J.A. Crowell to drive for them, and spent pennies doing so!
- On the privateer side of things, Harry Ganassi has managed to sway A.C. Webb to be his #2 driver this year.

That's all the news for now! On Monday I will drop the calendar, and start signups for the first race.

[satsuki4]

Hello once again. Here's the calendar for this year:

1. Morris Park (June 10th)
2. Hartford (June 17th)
3. Empire City (June 26th)
4. Brunots Island (June 29th)
5. Morris Park (July 4th)
6. Grosse Pointe (August 8th)
7. Glenville (August 14th)
8. Buffalo (August 19th)
9. Readville (September 9th)
10. Syracuse (September 18th)
11. Providence (September 23rd)
12. Poughkeepsie (September 29th)
NC. Vanderbilt Cup (Long Island, October 14th)

The Vanderbilt Cup will be run to AAA standards, but as a road course race it does not count towards the championship. With the votes of the people, the AAA has decided to pull through with all the suggestions it made in the pre-season.

Anyhow, entries for the first race at Morris Park are now open! Some more rules regarding the season:
- Race entries don't have to be very intricate for now. Just say whether you're coming by or not.
- The entry fee for a race is $50 per car. For now the furthest we're going is Michigan, so this season travelling fees will be irrelevant.
- The point system for this year is as follows: 10 points for 1st, 7 for 2nd, 5 for 3rd, 3 for 4th, 1 for 5th. Didn't finish top 5? Too bad!
- The prize money will be different each race depending on the number of entries.
- If your driver wrecks your car, it may get damaged. It will cost some money to get it repaired! Sometimes the vehicle may be totalled - in that case it'll be automatically scrapped.
- If you ran out of vehicles, you can build one (if you're a manufacturer) or buy one (if a privateer). The cost of building a car is around $250, but you can do it for cheaper if you specifically desire it. It'll be less expensive, but more shite.
- Of course, privateers can buy cars both from the AI for a fixed sum or hassle with other players for better deals.
- Injuries are a thing! They range from reduced performance, missing races to even DEATH! In a case you don't have a driver to fill in a seat, you can hire one that hasn't been hired yet part-time. Now that the season is starting, they'll take any ride for free!

I think that's the gist of it. You have until March 14th to submit your race entries for the first race. See ya!

[Loadsamoney]

I’ll enter both Lytle and Vaughan for the season opener

[Forti]

Stanley-Goodridge Racing Partnership will enter Paul Goodridge and Ralph Coburn into the first Morris Park race. Customer inquiries are welcome.

Stanley superior!
woo, 200th post!

[FalconCapelli]

Harry Ganassi Racing are going to race in the season opener with Harry Ganassi and A.C Webb.

[Salamander]

Louis Chevrolet will be entering the season opener.

[NickyDustyOwl]

Pearless will be at Morris Park!!!

[Aislabie]

Selwyn Edge will enter Morris Park

Manfred Oxenham will not enter anything until I've written his backstory

[amamimia]

Team Name: Fiat

Team Owner: William Cho (British Hong Kong, born July 1st, 1871 in Victoria)

Yes

3x Fiat