2016 Monaco Grand Prix

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 28 May 2016, 19:21

Is this going to be like when Alonso won Hungary 2003 and crashed 5 seconds into the following race?

Post by **mario** » 28 May 2016, 20:02

It seems that the stewards were quite busy, as both Magnussen and Kvyat were both referred to them for different infractions.

In the case of Magnussen, he was seen driving through a red light signal at the end of the pit lane when qualifying was paused to recover Verstappen's car. However, the stewards ruled that, although the red light went on two seconds before he crossed the pit lane exit, he stated that the last light he was was still green and the team presented evidence that they'd only activated the warning light on his steering wheel about half a second before he crossed the pit exit line. They have therefore decided to take no action against him. http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/28/n ... stigation/

As for Kvyat, he was initially under threat of being disqualified because his floor failed the deflection test after qualifying. The team seem to have persuaded the stewards that Kvyat's floor had been damaged after Kvyat struck a kerb in Q3 - however, what is unusual is that the stewards have explicitly requested that the FIA's technical team investigate Kvyat's telemetry traces to confirm that this is the case. Whilst it is probably the case that they have been asked to do this before, I don't recall the stewards publicly making this sort of request in the past. http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/05/28/k ... no-action/

lance_rambert · Post by **lance_rambert** » 28 May 2016, 20:23

mario wrote:Whilst the idea that Mercedes would be deliberately sabotaging Hamilton is certainly far fetched, the fact that Hamilton is suffering from so many mechanical issues in close succession is inevitably going to drive those sorts of accusations. At the very least, you have to wonder what is going on with Mercedes's quality assurance systems - something doesn't seem to be going right if they are suffering from that many serious issues in such a short period of time.

It's probably my issue with not letting it go, but I feel like the folks saying this kind of hot garbage is like slapping the engineers in the face a second time after not getting pole. The engineers and part manufacturers already worked their asses off to get that car in tip-top shape. The last thing they want to hear is the idiotic notion that they would purposely bathplug one of their drivers over by giving one of them a duff engine part.

For the sake of the Mercedes car not becoming a glass rocket, the folks at the AMG HPP division need to sort their shite out. Then again, I probably won't give a flying toss if they lose a race again. At least when I watched Schumacher and Ferrari ruled F1, I didn't necessarily know every race that the red cars would take the big trophy home. Unlike now, where we expect the silver car to do so.

watka · Post by **watka** » 28 May 2016, 21:16

Big shout out to Nico Hulkenberg for qualifying so well today. Bit of a turn up for the books, Force India's don't seem to be the slippy, low downforce cars they were before. Hopefully they can convert it into a good race result.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 28 May 2016, 22:11

Force India had a good race in 2015 too. The car works well in high downforce tracks like Monaco.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 29 May 2016, 10:08

Discovered a fun fact woith Riccardo's first pole today. Other drivers who scored their maiden pole position in Monaco are Schumacher, Clark, Stewart and Fangio. What a pantheon to be a member of!

Not to mention Frentzen and Trulli...

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 10:46

Ooooh we've got rain!! This could really make things spicy!

Also 17 drivers have a points finish now, is that a record for this point of the season?

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 29 May 2016, 11:53

Start behind SC. Not surprising. The track is indeed too dangerous, the race could have been stopped by 1st corner since all cars crashed at St Devote. Right? Safety rules, who cares action

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 11:59

Disappointing for safety car start but understandable. Be interesting to see how this all plays out

Wtf? Kvyat has lost the field loads of time

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 29 May 2016, 12:06

I really wish they'd let them race. The weather was worse in 1984 and we had a great race. We have virtual yellows and a safety car now so there's no excuse not to let them loose.

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 29 May 2016, 12:06

Sucks for Kvyat.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 29 May 2016, 12:08

David Coulthard wrote:Ctrl+Alt+Delete did not manage to reboot the system.

Well no, David, that's not how Ctrl+Alt+Delete works

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 12:09

How are you listening to Coulthard? Channel 4 aren't live?

These conditions are fine get that SLS off the road!

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 29 May 2016, 12:10

Barbazza wrote:I really wish they'd let them race. The weather was worse in 1984 and we had a great race. We have virtual yellows and a safety car now so there's no excuse not to let them loose.

We all know that full wet tires are banned to do racing

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 29 May 2016, 12:11

sswishbone wrote:How are you listening to Coulthard? Channel 4 aren't live?

These conditions are fine get that SLS off the road!

Its not an SLS its an AMG GT-S

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 29 May 2016, 12:12

Start the bloody race. Please don't make us wait until it is intermediate conditions

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 12:13

WeirdKerr wrote:
sswishbone wrote:How are you listening to Coulthard? Channel 4 aren't live?

These conditions are fine get that SLS off the road!

Its not an SLS its an AMG GT-S

We know the race is boring when we're correcting models of Safety car mid-lap :p

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 29 May 2016, 12:14

Very disappointed at the race director and this race, really. I've told this again and tell it one more time: They would do better if they just assumed once and for all that they won't race in wet weather. Restart at another time in the day and that's it.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 29 May 2016, 12:14

Safety car in this lap

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 12:16

Oh Palmer you bathplugging idiot!!!

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 29 May 2016, 12:17

Guti has passed Raikkonen somewhere

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 29 May 2016, 12:18

That's really poor from Palmer...

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 29 May 2016, 12:18

Looks like that was unlucky for Palmer actually - aquaplaning has done for many better drivers than him in the past!

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 29 May 2016, 12:19

Palmer

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lance_rambert · Post by **lance_rambert** » 29 May 2016, 12:21

Palmer, what the bathplug was that, you goit? :facepalm:

Also, Rosberg is pretty slow for some reason...

...and now Raikonnen bottles it at Portier!

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 12:22

Raikonnen!! What the hell happened at Portier 1?

Oh Massa!! Did he hit raikonnen? Looks like it

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 29 May 2016, 12:23

The heck happened to Kimi?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 29 May 2016, 12:25

Aguaman wrote:The heck happened to Kimi?

He made a mistake. This was probably worse than Palmer.

Belegur · Post by **Belegur** » 29 May 2016, 12:32

Man, if I was Rosberg, I would have told the team to eff off. He's leading the championship, he's got track position. He has no reason at all to give his position up to Hamilton.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 12:38

Dangerous driving from Magnussen there? Reversing in middle of Rascasse?

I take it back, wtf was that from Kvyat?

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 29 May 2016, 12:39

Oh dear Kvyat.

lance_rambert · Post by **lance_rambert** » 29 May 2016, 12:40

Now Kvyat decides to be an idiot. What made him think THAT was going to work?

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 29 May 2016, 12:54

We have slicks

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 12:55

Keep an eye on perez and button, one stoppers

Red Bull have just thrown it away

Also Alonso ahead of Rosberg!

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 29 May 2016, 12:56

Well done red bull

Aguaman · Post by **Aguaman** » 29 May 2016, 12:56

RBR fail.

Belegur · Post by **Belegur** » 29 May 2016, 12:57

Ffs Red Bull, can you make your favoritism any more blatant?

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 29 May 2016, 12:57

Brilliant, another Mercedes win imminent - well done Red Bull. At least Sky F1 will be happy - this will be the 'greatest tactical GP win ever' or something if Lewis wins.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 29 May 2016, 12:58

Magnussen new nosecone destruction championship leader?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 29 May 2016, 12:58

Red Bull hasn't been involved in these type of strategy races for a while. They must be really rusty.