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That is exactly what I was thinking. Colin Kolles' mob, maybe?


Mob is the word for it.


It's a mob I want to be part of. If you get into his nucleus of trusted individuals, you've got a job for life with a man who's essentially an F1 auditor. I love that idea.
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Ataxia wrote:
Backmarker wrote:
Faustus wrote:That is exactly what I was thinking. Colin Kolles' mob, maybe?


Mob is the word for it.


It's a mob I want to be part of. If you get into his nucleus of trusted individuals, you've got a job for life with a man who's essentially an F1 auditor. I love that idea.


Nah, you have a job, then don't have a job, then do, then don't, then do, then don't....
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Backmarker wrote:
Ataxia wrote:
Backmarker wrote:Mob is the word for it.


It's a mob I want to be part of. If you get into his nucleus of trusted individuals, you've got a job for life with a man who's essentially an F1 auditor. I love that idea.


Nah, you have a job, then don't have a job, then do, then don't, then do, then don't....

A lot like real life, basically.
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Now there are reports that Will Stevens will race for Caterham, with the other seat unconfirmed: http://www.crash.net/f1/news/210950/1/f ... dhabi.html

I give up. :roll:
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Simtek wrote:Now there are reports that Will Stevens will race for Caterham, with the other seat unconfirmed: http://www.crash.net/f1/news/210950/1/f ... dhabi.html

I give up. :roll:

I think the media literally have no clue either, and every couple of days release a new story linking Caterham to the next plausible driver in the list, a cycle that will continue until they finally tell us who is driving.

Up next in the rumour mill; Julian Leal, Giedo van der Garde & Takuya Izawa. You always need a random one in there to drum up interest.
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Simtek wrote:Now there are reports that Will Stevens will race for Caterham, with the other seat unconfirmed: http://www.crash.net/f1/news/210950/1/f ... dhabi.html

I give up. :roll:

I think the media literally have no clue either, and every couple of days release a new story linking Caterham to the next plausible driver in the list, a cycle that will continue until they finally tell us who is driving.

Up next in the rumour mill; Julian Leal, Giedo van der Garde & Takuya Izawa. You always need a random one in there to drum up interest.


I still think Mehri is a shoo-in but surely some bucks can be made spinning nonsensical stories about who is going to drive that Caterham. I will try my best then: Bruno Senna.
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I've been off-world for a time having a baby (not literally) and now I return to see a, perhaps, unprecedented interest in potential drivers for a team that are highly unlikely to figure in Sundays race and are in all probability not going to be around next season.

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They've been tweeting pictures all day of them setting up in Abu Dhabi, so I guess this must be happening! :?
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I'd love to see them not qualify within 107% after all this time :D it would be like good old Kolles.

I mean, has there been any development on that Caterham since Russia, or even Japan when the factory started losing bits? Will the car be fast enough to qualify on Saturday?
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DanielPT wrote:
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Simtek wrote:Now there are reports that Will Stevens will race for Caterham, with the other seat unconfirmed: http://www.crash.net/f1/news/210950/1/f ... dhabi.html

I give up. :roll:

I think the media literally have no clue either, and every couple of days release a new story linking Caterham to the next plausible driver in the list, a cycle that will continue until they finally tell us who is driving.

Up next in the rumour mill; Julian Leal, Giedo van der Garde & Takuya Izawa. You always need a random one in there to drum up interest.


I still think Mehri is a shoo-in but surely some bucks can be made spinning nonsensical stories about who is going to drive that Caterham. I will try my best then: Bruno Senna.

I can't believe after all this no one has mentioned Sakon Yamamoto...
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Never mind him. I'm backing Jean-Denis Délétraz for a comeback.
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Perhaps good old Stirling Moss can drive the thing. (he'd still be faster than Ericcson was, probably)
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Karthikeyan or Yamamoto would make me happy :)
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Ferenc Szisz.
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HWNSNBM is the obvious choice.
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tristan1117 wrote:HWNSNBM is the obvious choice.

Aren't he and Ferenc Szisz the same person?
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http://adamcooperf1.com/2014/11/19/caterham-still-finalising-second-driver-deal-says-oconnell/

Important things here, Max Chilton will not be driving the second Caterham due to the recent Marussia revelation, but also Roberto Merhi apparently still doesn't have a full superlicence...
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Rob Dylan wrote:I'd love to see them not qualify within 107% after all this time :D it would be like good old Kolles.

I mean, has there been any development on that Caterham since Russia, or even Japan when the factory started losing bits? Will the car be fast enough to qualify on Saturday?

They'll probably just about qualify, since it does seem that even the larger teams have slowed down a little on development work as focus shifts to 2015 instead - about the only major exception is McLaren, as they are using the MP4/29 as a test bed to try out components for 2015 and have therefore accelerated their development program.

On another note, what surprises me is that Bernie seems to have been putting in some effort to get Caterham back onto the grid - he is claiming that he not only charted an additional aircraft to take their freight to Abu Dhabi, but that he is completely writing off the charges for transporting their freight as well. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30116227
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He evidently wants them to survive. His hands are clearly tied in terms of how much aid he can offer, but if they can see the season out, it will no doubt be better for them.
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eagleash wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30131456

So now we know...


A good opportunity for Stevens, because I doubt he will ever get a second grand prix start.
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Backmarker wrote:
eagleash wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30131456

So now we know...


A good opportunity for Stevens, because I doubt he will ever get a second grand prix start.


He may not get a first... :o
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Backmarker wrote:
eagleash wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30131456

So now we know...


A good opportunity for Stevens, because I doubt he will ever get a second grand prix start.


Hasn't really embarassed himself so far. I'm curious to see how he does in qualifying.
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Will Stevens has ended up about half-a-second behind Kamui in Q1. Not really comparable to Andre Lotterer in Spa - different teammate and vastly different level of experience. Andre had driven Spa many times before, but I imagine Will has not driven Abu Dhabi much. And Will is still just emerging from the junior ranks. So given that, you would not necessarily expect Will to have done as well as Andre. So not bad, all things considered. Well within 107% too...
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At least he managed to qualify. Good luck to him tomorrow.
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dr-baker wrote:Will Stevens has ended up about half-a-second behind Kamui in Q1. Not really comparable to Andre Lotterer in Spa - different teammate and vastly different level of experience. Andre had driven Spa many times before, but I imagine Will has not driven Abu Dhabi much. And Will is still just emerging from the junior ranks. So given that, you would not necessarily expect Will to have done as well as Andre. So not bad, all things considered. Well within 107% too...

All in all, it's a quite respectable performance given the circumstances in which he has made it onto the grid - he's probably hoping that he'll at least be able to do more laps than Lotterer did in Spa.

On another note, there was a comment that Brundle made during the build up to qualifying that I found interesting, and it turns on the number of races that the teams are allowed to miss. He was suggesting that there seem to be different contract terms in the contracts the teams have with FOM and with the FIA - FOM's contract is a little more flexible, since they state that a team can skip up to three races before they forfeit their all rights to prize money (although Chilton was suggesting that, if the team misses three races, they end up losing some of their prize money).

However, Brundle was suggesting that the contract the teams sign with the FIA that establishes their entry rights is actually much stricter than FOM's terms and allows the FIA to invalidate all entry rights if a team misses one race - which is why, in the past couple of races, the stewards reports have noted the absence of Marussia and Caterham and stated that this will be reported to Todt. Whether the FIA would go that far is another matter though...
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f1andrea wrote:Will Stevens and Caterham will remain in Abu Dhabi also for young test sessions


This surprises me quite a bit because to save money, the team should stay away from testing. Then again, Stevens' backers may well have funded this test.
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Yannick wrote:
f1andrea wrote:Will Stevens and Caterham will remain in Abu Dhabi also for young test sessions


This surprises me quite a bit because to save money, the team should stay away from testing. Then again, Stevens' backers may well have funded this test.


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Maybe they raffled off the contents of the staff canteen to get the cash like they did the rest of their stuff?
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Good to see Caterham in the post season test. Not only this, but look at the Stevens times. Impressive work.

I hope Caterham survives and keeps him.
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In the same way Johnny Herbert was the Romford Rocket, might Will Stevens become the Rochford Rocket? After all, they're both Essex boys...
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Dj_bereta wrote:Good to see Caterham in the post season test. Not only this, but look at the Stevens times. Impressive work.

I hope Caterham survives and keeps him.


I was quite surprised when I saw him that high up, but then noticed that his time (01:44.888) was only a bit better than his qualifying time on Saturday (01:45.095), so I think it's more a case of
everyone else was just slower. Here's hoping it will still persuade the would-be investors though ...
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madmark1974 wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:Good to see Caterham in the post season test. Not only this, but look at the Stevens times. Impressive work.

I hope Caterham survives and keeps him.


I was quite surprised when I saw him that high up, but then noticed that his time (01:44.888) was only a bit better than his qualifying time on Saturday (01:45.095), so I think it's more a case of
everyone else was just slower. Here's hoping it will still persuade the would-be investors though ...


Me too was surprised. O'Connell said that someone "who is linked in to Formula 1is interested. Somebody who actually knows it, and who wants to do it. If it's serious and it goes ahead then we'll announce things as soon as we can."
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Dj_bereta wrote:Good to see Caterham in the post season test. Not only this, but look at the Stevens times. Impressive work.

I hope Caterham survives and keeps him.


I was quite surprised when I saw him that high up, but then noticed that his time (01:44.888) was only a bit better than his qualifying time on Saturday (01:45.095), so I think it's more a case of
everyone else was just slower. Here's hoping it will still persuade the would-be investors though ...


Let's not forget that Max Chilton actually topped the timesheets on a day of testing this year!
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Dj_bereta wrote:Good to see Caterham in the post season test. Not only this, but look at the Stevens times. Impressive work.

I hope Caterham survives and keeps him.


I was quite surprised when I saw him that high up, but then noticed that his time (01:44.888) was only a bit better than his qualifying time on Saturday (01:45.095), so I think it's more a case of
everyone else was just slower. Here's hoping it will still persuade the would-be investors though ...


Let's not forget that Max Chilton actually topped the timesheets on a day of testing this year!

It's sad that Chilton doesn't look to be getting a drive for 2015. Money talks....
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