The Caterham Thread

Post by **Miguel98** » 03 Oct 2014, 17:00

That list, sweet jesus.

Post by **Ataxia** » 03 Oct 2014, 17:07

As Manfredi Ravetto said yesterday, quite a lot of it is memorabilia.

Still, a lot of that stuff would be good for F1Rejects.com Racing...so, uh...yeah?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 03 Oct 2014, 19:18

Ataxia wrote:As Manfredi Ravetto said yesterday, quite a lot of it is memorabilia.

Still, a lot of that stuff would be good for F1Rejects.com Racing...so, uh...yeah?

Well I'm guessing that if Wallio doesn't want that turkey sandwich you could use that 3 dollars to kickstart the donations?

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 03 Oct 2014, 19:48

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
Ataxia wrote:As Manfredi Ravetto said yesterday, quite a lot of it is memorabilia.

Still, a lot of that stuff would be good for F1Rejects.com Racing...so, uh...yeah?

Well I'm guessing that if Wallio doesn't want that turkey sandwich you could use that 3 dollars to kickstart the donations?

I have you know I bought myself a turkey sandwich yesterday, a club in fact. And it was $8 not 3.

So yea, throw that $3 bucks in the kitty. Hell we can code name this project "Lunch".

hootie · Post by **hootie** » 04 Oct 2014, 23:58

taken from the Caterham facebook feed

Mr Talent Talent Talent has competition in the best hair in F1 competition
hootie

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 05 Oct 2014, 00:15

hootie wrote:

taken from the Caterham facebook feed

Mr Talent Talent Talent has competition in the best hair in F1 competition
hootie

Get ready for... The MerhiMania!

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 06 Oct 2014, 17:34

Updates on the impounded gear. There's another court hearing from a creditor on 11th November which is why the auction is currently on hold. Once that is resolved I suspect this stuff will either be recovered or flogged to the highest bidder.

Some more info on what was meant to be going to Suzuka but instead got impounded:

The following goods were due to be shipped to Suzuka, Japan on the day they were removed:

4 Caterham F1 wishbone RLWB #11, #16, #18 & #20
3 Caterham F1 wishbone RUWB #13, #14 & #17
2 Caterham F1 dampers RSD #7 & #8
6 Caterham F1 drive shafts RURT #9, #12, #14, #19, #21 & #22
10 Caterham F1 brake sets #320, #321, #334, #319, #364, #374, #375, #376, #377, #3691 & #3711
2 pairs Caterham F1 rear bells race
2 pairs Caterham F1 front bells race
1 Caterham F1 pressure taping tube
1 Caterham F1 steering column (short) #07
1 Caterham F1 brake calliper (right rear) #1238
1 Caterham F1 power steering set #L07 & #L11
1 Caterham F1 bag of master cylinder parts
3 Caterham F1 hoses
2 Caterham F1 yaw shroud (pitot)
1 Caterham F1 brake drum (right hand)
1 Caterham F1 brake drum (left hand)
2 Caterham F1 side pod tuning veins
2 Caterham F1 progressive springs
1 Caterham F1 exhaust tail pipe
2 Caterham F1 throttle dampers (TI shaft & Spec 6)
2 Caterham F1 pedals
1 Caterham F1 grid trolley cover
1 Caterham F1 water expansion bottle
2 Caterham F1 front piston right hand
6 pairs Shoes with steel toe caps
10 Windscreen V2
2 Caterham F1 ARB rocker assembly
20 Caterham F1 units of ballast
2 Caterham F1 small duct #0259 & #0260
1 Caterham F1 plastic mirror lens
200 Bolt (counter sunk) M6
130 Lock nut (unf)
40 Stud (live lock)
20 Spacer
5 Top hat (track rod)
4 Stud (LD 0773)
5 Top hat (inside)
4 Caterham F1 shoulder strap bracket
3 Caterham F1 turbo hose
2 Caterham F1 non return valve
1 Caterham F1 fire bottle filled assembly
1 Caterham F1 solenoid bracket
1 Caterham F1 power conditioner cage
2 Caterham F1 outer caliper duct #0265 &#0266
40 Caterham F1 SPOV feed pipe V2 hose
2 Caterham F1 heave link -3.5 deg assembly
4 Caterham F1 heat shield WG RWD
4 Caterham F1 heat shield WG FWD
2 Caterham F1 PAS FTRD seal housing LH
2 Caterham F1 FTRD SLA seal V2 LH
45 Caterham F1 wheel nut angled necked mouth LH-MK2
45 Caterham F1 wheel nut angled necked mouth RH-MK2

Pretty sure all of that was on the original list I posted before (haven't checked properly though).

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 18 Oct 2014, 03:02

Caterham's GP2 arm has been sold to GP3 team Status. The team will compete in Abu Dhabi as Caterham, and switch to Status in 2015:

http://racer.com/latest-stories/item/10 ... m-gp2-team

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 20 Oct 2014, 20:05

In the debate as to why Kamui retired from the Russian GP, the BBC have this to add. Scary if correct.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 20 Oct 2014, 20:07

And to add to the intrigue, Caterham Sports Ltd (the company whose equipment was seized) has now gone into administration, meaning the planned auction of stuff is now off, which is sad as I fancied bagging something as a souvenir!

This doesn't affect the team, who are run by 1MRT (that's 1Malaysia Racing Team for those that don't know).

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 22 Oct 2014, 07:09

Kobayashi is in the news suggesting he felt unsafe in the car at Sochi. I've seen the picture purporting to be of the repair job the team did and it does look more than a bit ropey but I can't help but feel this is all about the disintegration of the relationship between him and the team. A team which is quickly heading into Andrea Moda territory.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Oct 2014, 10:21

CoopsII wrote:Kobayashi is in the news suggesting he felt unsafe in the car at Sochi. I've seen the picture purporting to be of the repair job the team did and it does look more than a bit ropey but I can't help but feel this is all about the disintegration of the relationship between him and the team. A team which is quickly heading into Andrea Moda territory.

It's what I linked to in my post (2 posts above yours). BBC story with suspension repair photographed.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 22 Oct 2014, 10:32

dr-baker wrote:
CoopsII wrote:Kobayashi is in the news suggesting he felt unsafe in the car at Sochi. I've seen the picture purporting to be of the repair job the team did and it does look more than a bit ropey but I can't help but feel this is all about the disintegration of the relationship between him and the team. A team which is quickly heading into Andrea Moda territory.

It's what I linked to in my post (2 posts above yours). BBC story with suspension repair photographed.

Great minds and all that. I'm not suggesting Kamui is making stuff up but he's become incredibly vocal just recently. If he's telling the truth and that bodge-job was intended to be raced then Caterham are crossing the line of whats acceptably safe which again reminds me of Andrea Moda.

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 22 Oct 2014, 10:37

CoopsII wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
CoopsII wrote:Kobayashi is in the news suggesting he felt unsafe in the car at Sochi. I've seen the picture purporting to be of the repair job the team did and it does look more than a bit ropey but I can't help but feel this is all about the disintegration of the relationship between him and the team. A team which is quickly heading into Andrea Moda territory.

It's what I linked to in my post (2 posts above yours). BBC story with suspension repair photographed.

Great minds and all that. I'm not suggesting Kamui is making stuff up but he's become incredibly vocal just recently. If he's telling the truth and that bodge-job was intended to be raced then Caterham are crossing the line of whats acceptably safe which again reminds me of Andrea Moda. If he isnt telling the truth and that picture is, perhaps, before a repair job was made then....

What I find really strange about the whole thing is that originally Kamui was saying he didn't know why the car was retired, but now he's saying the car shouldn't have been raced at all? While there could be translation issues and I'm a massive fan of Kamui, he can't really have it both ways.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 22 Oct 2014, 10:48

I guess he's getting himself in the headlines at any rate which could be viewed as an attempt to make himself visible to potential team bosses. However, if that is the intention then I find it somewhat cynical bearing in mind its off the back off the current flavour of the month, safety, which began with Bianchis accident.

All 'ifs', 'buts' and 'maybe's I know but, aaah, theres frig all else going on besides the forum becoming like the wreck of the Hesperus.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Oct 2014, 12:16

AustralianStig wrote:What I find really strange about the whole thing is that originally Kamui was saying he didn't know why the car was retired, but now he's saying the car shouldn't have been raced at all? While there could be translation issues and I'm a massive fan of Kamui, he can't really have it both ways.

Maybe originally after the race, he didn't want to say anything with all the team around him and didn't want to be accused of slandering the team (which would often be a breach of contract), but with hindsight, he felt prepared to say what actually happened?

CoopsII wrote:
dr-baker wrote:It's what I linked to in my post (2 posts above yours). BBC story with suspension repair photographed.

Great minds and all that.

Yeah, probably! :lol:

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 22 Oct 2014, 15:10

I have seen the suspension piece and it is quite frankly, inexcusable to bodge something that badly.

sw3ishida · Post by **sw3ishida** » 22 Oct 2014, 19:54

http://www.caterhamf1.com/news/2014/caterham-f1-team-statement-%281%29

Any thoughts on this? I mean, it should go without saying that Caterham could have done without more complications.

nigellamansell · Post by **nigellamansell** » 22 Oct 2014, 23:46

Shades of Monteverdi and Forti....I seriously doubt if these "investors" really exist

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 23 Oct 2014, 06:28

It has all become incredibly farcical hasn't it? They bought the team, funded the team but now claim they don't have the shares because the former owner's creditors have got involved. It smacks of convenience and a chance to pull the plug. Why didn't they buy Sauber or Toro Rosso if they were so desperate to own a team?

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 23 Oct 2014, 08:23

It's telling that the statement doesn't affirm their intention to keep supporting the team as much as they can, or that they will go down all the road to stop Fernandes' people interfering in order to protect their investment, or whatever.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 23 Oct 2014, 09:46

If they dont make Austin will that mean we may see a couple of three car teams appear to make up the numbers or will some deal be done to avoid the expense?

TheFlyingCaterham · Post by **TheFlyingCaterham** » 23 Oct 2014, 09:49

CoopsII wrote:If they dont make Austin will that mean we may see a couple of three car teams appear to make up the numbers or will some deal be done to avoid the expense?

There is always still Forza Rossa. Unless they are waiting for 2016 like Haas. And unless you mean the rest of this season.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 23 Oct 2014, 10:11

The BBC wrote: Staff working for the Caterham F1 team have been locked out of the firm's Oxfordshire site, the administrator has confirmed to the BBC.

"Damn you, my name is Marcus Ericsson! Let me in! My coat is still in the cloakroom as well as an apple I didn't fancy!"

Post by **Nuppiz** » 23 Oct 2014, 10:42

CoopsII wrote:If they dont make Austin will that mean we may see a couple of three car teams appear to make up the numbers or will some deal be done to avoid the expense?

Three car teams won't happen this or next season because the teams would need much more time to prepare for that. If Caterham bites the dust we'll see a 20-car grid, just like when Forti, Arrows and Super Aguri folded.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 23 Oct 2014, 10:44

Nuppiz wrote:
CoopsII wrote:If they dont make Austin will that mean we may see a couple of three car teams appear to make up the numbers or will some deal be done to avoid the expense?
Three car teams won't happen this or next season because the teams would need much more time to prepare for that. If Caterham bites the dust we'll see a 20-car grid, just like when Forti, Arrows and Super Aguri folded.

The real trouble will begin if another team folds. And there are at least a couple hanging by a thread.

Zetec · Post by **Zetec** » 23 Oct 2014, 21:15

http://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/u/venus_ag_CH-170.3.028.786-1.htm

And we have a name behind Engavest Sa: stefan gyseler.
Quite a few name changes...

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 23 Oct 2014, 23:35

This is a bit of wishful thinking, but if Caterham fold before Austin is it possible Kobayashi could race for Marussia, however improbable? Or would his contract preclude that?

I guess if Caterham fold all contracts would be nullified...but then again it's probably more likely that if Caterham don't make it the administrators will say that they are just missing the US GP until things are sorted.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 24 Oct 2014, 02:15

AustralianStig wrote:This is a bit of wishful thinking, but if Caterham fold before Austin is it possible Kobayashi could race for Marussia, however improbable? Or would his contract preclude that?

The better question would be, why would Marussia be so stupid and throw away the chance to debut an American on American territory and thereby grab a few sponsorship dollars in exchange for a mediocre driver who isn't even familiar with the team?

AustralianStig · Post by **AustralianStig** » 24 Oct 2014, 03:14

Klon wrote:
AustralianStig wrote:This is a bit of wishful thinking, but if Caterham fold before Austin is it possible Kobayashi could race for Marussia, however improbable? Or would his contract preclude that?

The better question would be, why would Marussia be so stupid and throw away the chance to debut an American on American territory and thereby grab a few sponsorship dollars in exchange for a mediocre driver who isn't even familiar with the team?

Good point, this is me in dreamworld thinking up ridiculous what ifs haha.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 24 Oct 2014, 09:29

Klon wrote:
AustralianStig wrote:This is a bit of wishful thinking, but if Caterham fold before Austin is it possible Kobayashi could race for Marussia, however improbable? Or would his contract preclude that?

The better question would be, why would Marussia be so stupid and throw away the chance to debut an American on American territory and thereby grab a few sponsorship dollars in exchange for a mediocre driver who isn't even familiar with the team?

Are you thinking Rossi is 100% in for Austin? I haven't read anything to confirm it yet.

Pointrox · Post by **Pointrox** » 24 Oct 2014, 12:19

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/17583 ... -in-austin

Something tells me that if Russian Grand Prix wasn't the last race for Caterham, then they will shut up the shop after Austin.
Leafield curse strikes again.

Post by **Miguel98** » 24 Oct 2014, 16:36

https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/525684994472435712

Well, Catheram are dying more and more by the second...

Anyway, predictions on who'll drive the Forza Rossa next season? I'm betting Mehri and Yamamoto. :lol:

nigellamansell · Post by **nigellamansell** » 24 Oct 2014, 16:38

The more news I read about this the more it reminds me of Forti and The Shannon Group.

Methinks these investors are merely smoke and mirrors.

Post by **Bobby Doorknobs** » 24 Oct 2014, 16:41

Miguel98 wrote:https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/525684994472435712

Well, Catheram are dying more and more by the second...

Anyway, predictions on who'll drive the Forza Rossa next season? I'm betting Mehri and Yamamoto.

I'm going for Merhi and Ericsson. However, one of them will be replaced by Yamamoto.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 24 Oct 2014, 16:42

I hate it when it gets like this, the slow death.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 24 Oct 2014, 16:54

I have dug through the Paul Stoddart forum and unearthed a post from July 2013. Why?

dinizintheoven wrote:We came. We saw (rejects and top teams alike). We conquered (the paddock).

This is why.

I am now incredibly glad Marussia didn't bring a complete show car to the Young Drivers' Test last year. Because, as they didn't, we thought it'd be a fine compromise to have the official Formula One Rejects Team Shot in front of Caterham and the T128 produced under their former guise. Caterham were obviously faster than Marussia that year, and weren't the Ultimate Rejects of the season... but now it is the team in green who are going down the tubes faster than a hyperactive child covered in Fairy Liquid at an Orlando water park. Were there ever to be another such event, it looks highly likely that this photo could never be taken again. So retrospectively, it was the right thing to do.

And to think, when that car behind us was launched, with its Red Bull gearbox from a winning car and a Renault engine, neither of which Marussia (when they were still Virgin) or HRT had access to, stuck with their lumbering Cosworth lumps and failing Xtrac gearboxes - this (2011) was going to be their year, they'd start challenging the midfield, have points on the board in no time at all, and condemn Toro Rosso and even Williams to scrapping with the other two that were F1's equivalent of the Claiming Rule Teams.

How times have changed...

IceG · Post by **IceG** » 24 Oct 2014, 17:45

Bernie says its OK: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29765039

Post by **Frogfoot9013** » 24 Oct 2014, 18:00

IceG wrote:Bernie says its OK: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29765039

Something tells me that if they do miss Austin and Interlagos like they're allowed to, they'll probably not be on the grid for Abu Dhabi either, considering that the mess Caterham is in is not too far off Monteverdi and Andrea Moda levels....

andrew2209 · Post by **andrew2209** » 24 Oct 2014, 18:02

Has a team ever missed races and returned?