The _TCC Series Thread

midgrid · Post by **midgrid** » 02 Apr 2014, 16:21

In the FFords, Sam Brabham was also driving with a livery reminiscent of his father's Brabham BT59:

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 02 Apr 2014, 23:10

That is... one of the most hideous lower-formulae cars I've ever seen. Not because of the livery, it's the shape of everything else. Are the people who designed the Ford Focus responsible for this?

Also: the Brabham family website's profile of Gary has left out a certain part of his F1 career. Can anyone guess what it is without looking?

watka · Post by **watka** » 02 Apr 2014, 23:30

Not Touring Cars (although they did have a class named "Touring Cars") but I thought I'd better share some of the more unusual pics of the British Rallycross meet at Lydden Hill.

A Belgian Citroen DS3 that won its race despite a broken door.

Yep, that's a Volvo 480. Surprisingly quick.

Buggys.

Volvo 242 which some entertaining body lean issues.

A stupidly quick BMW Z4. Blew away everything in its class.

Vince Bristow in his BMW 328, in which he insisted on powersliding around the hairpin every single lap. Even the slow down laps. The other car is a Toyota MR2.

Audi TT, complete with diesel smoke that must have narked off the other competitors a lot.

Renault Clio that went through a whole race with its front left locked up. Oh no, they don't retire in rallycross unless the car actually can't move.

Some bloke called Phil Chicken. Comedy gold.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Apr 2014, 01:09

dinizintheoven wrote:That is... one of the most hideous lower-formulae cars I've ever seen. Not because of the livery, it's the shape of everything else. Are the people who designed the Ford Focus responsible for this?

Also: the Brabham family website's profile of Gary has left out a certain part of his F1 career. Can anyone guess what it is without looking?

This is now the second year of FFord being a slicks-and-wings category, looking like that. Not great, but not bad racing. And is his Life that they left out?

watka wrote:
Buggys.

Is this the same kind of buggy that is used at the annual Race of Champions that didn't happen last year in Thailand?

watka · Post by **watka** » 03 Apr 2014, 12:21

dr-baker wrote:Is this the same kind of buggy that is used at the annual Race of Champions that didn't happen last year in Thailand?

No, not quite. These were RX150 buggys and the ROC cars are built by a Dutch buggy exclusively for the event.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 03 Apr 2014, 14:57

dr-baker wrote: And is his Life that they left out?

No prizes for that one.

David Brabham's career summary, incidentally, mentions his F1 career - just not the teams he was with!

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 11 Apr 2014, 13:46

Citroen tops Morocco WTCC test.

Meanwhile things are looking ominous for people not called Muller, Loeb or Lopez in the WTCC as Citroen was a full 2 seconds faster than the best of the rest (which was Hugo Valente on a Chevrolet). Lada performed respectably obtaining 6th.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 11 Apr 2014, 20:00

Great. As I expected, instead of boring, awful looking Chevys winning every race, we're going to get tedious ugly Citroens instead.

Walsh_e · Post by **Walsh_e** » 13 Apr 2014, 15:54

My word, WTCC is pretty dull, might watch a few BTCC races to wake myself up!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 13 Apr 2014, 16:48

Well, that escalated quickly. :shock:

Post by **Londoner** » 13 Apr 2014, 17:17

So yeah, CITROENWINSLOL runs wild over the rest of the field. If Citroen actually allowed their drivers to duke it for position, this season might resemble BTCC in 2001. One team domination, but good racing and interest for the driver's title.

But no, can't have proper battles for the lead, that's far too much fun for Citroen.

Walsh_e · Post by **Walsh_e** » 13 Apr 2014, 17:27

It might just be me, the coverage or the track but they just don't seem fast or even close to the limit! Will save my judgement after watching a few more races however.

That Citorén livery, terrible!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 13 Apr 2014, 19:33

Walsh_e wrote:It might just be me, the coverage or the track but they just don't seem fast or even close to the limit!

The Citroens certainly weren't once they built a gap - at once point during race 1 they'd backed off four whole seconds on what they were doing previously. That's just making a mockery of the whole series. No wonder Alain Menu's gone to race in the BTCC.

And I totally agree on the livery - it's very boring. Though I guess boring suits Citroen...

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 14 Apr 2014, 02:30

Salamander wrote:
Walsh_e wrote:It might just be me, the coverage or the track but they just don't seem fast or even close to the limit!

The Citroens certainly weren't once they built a gap - at once point during race 1 they'd backed off four whole seconds on what they were doing previously. That's just making a mockery of the whole series. No wonder Alain Menu's gone to race in the BTCC.

And I totally agree on the livery - it's very boring. Though I guess boring suits Citroen...

I have to agree. Thr Citroën has a very boring livery, and the car isn't really that pretty either. It kinda pains me to look at it. With my okay eye anyway. The lazy eye doesn't have a problem!

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 14 Apr 2014, 06:14

TBH the Citroen livery is not that bad, providing this is only the 1st race of the season, who knows the rest. Still found it's hard there was team order.
Looks like I'm the only one to support Citroen and Loeb back in WRC.....

Post by **Londoner** » 16 Apr 2014, 11:25

Rickard Rydell's making a return to touring cars. Sadly though, he's chosen the wrong series.

watka · Post by **watka** » 17 Apr 2014, 22:53

East Londoner wrote:Rickard Rydell's making a return to touring cars. Sadly though, he's chosen the wrong series.

No Rickard, come back to BTCC and driver something that's basically a massive box on wheels pleaseeeeeeeeeee.

Post by **Londoner** » 20 Apr 2014, 11:16

First BTCC race of the day was fantastic. Now, let's see how pathetic the first WTCC race of the day is.

Post by **Miguel98** » 20 Apr 2014, 11:56

East Londoner wrote:First BTCC race of the day was fantastic. Now, let's see how pathetic the first WTCC race of the day is.

The Citröen is that superior to the rest that even with their penalties, Loeb finished 2nd and Maria López 4th. And Muller obviously won, even after a horrible start.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 20 Apr 2014, 17:06

Citrön are really fast. Lopez just took everyone to school by winning race 2 from starting freaking last.

Post by **Londoner** » 20 Apr 2014, 20:36

So, Race 2 at Donington was insane. How Menu didn't get T-boned at Starkeys will be a mystery for the ages. Reportedly, James Cole's Toyota is a write-off after his crash with Robb Holland.

The end of Race 3 was fantastic, Sheds demolishing Turkington's lead in just three laps, and the fight for the lead for the last half a lap getting pretty heated. That move at the chicane is already a talking point. WSR are appealing the results. I reckon Andy Jordan would have been up there fighting for the win as well. That is, if Plato hadn't been a twat at Redgate on the first lap... :evil:

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 20 Apr 2014, 20:42

East Londoner wrote:So, Race 2 at Donington was insane. How Menu didn't get T-boned at Starkeys will be a mystery for the ages. Reportedly, James Cole's Toyota is a write-off after his crash with Robb Holland.

The end of Race 3 was fantastic, Sheds demolishing Turkington's lead in just three laps, and the fight for the lead for the last half a lap getting pretty heated. That move at the chicane is already a talking point. WSR are appealing the results. I reckon Andy Jordan would have been up there fighting for the win as well. That is, if Plato hadn't been a twat at Redgate on the first lap...

I missed the second race because of the F1 rerun on BBC and I missed the last 10 laps of the third race because I was having dinner.
Sods law, isn't it? :lol:

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 21 Apr 2014, 13:22

East Londoner wrote:So, Race 2 at Donington was insane. How Menu didn't get T-boned at Starkeys will be a mystery for the ages. Reportedly, James Cole's Toyota is a write-off after his crash with Robb Holland.

I'd say it is, given that Cole lost at least two doors and one wheel in the crash

Nice to see the Passats looking quick, and also good to see Tordoff winning.

Pieman · Post by **Pieman** » 24 Apr 2014, 19:23

That smash in R2 happened right where I was standing, and I don't care how strong these cars are - James Cole will probably still be aching now after that one!

Real shame that Holland's S3 was wrecked as well, one of the best looking cars on the grid. The support highlights were the Clios - super close as always - and Josh Webster's inspired tactical drive in the Porsches while everyone else was spinning everywhere.

Post by **Londoner** » 02 May 2014, 15:50

Sadly, Robb Holland won't be racing this weekend, lack of spare parts.

But incredibly, United Autosports have managed to build a brand new Toyota Avensis for James Cole, and he WILL be out there racing at Thruxton.

Edit: Reading the latest issue of Autosport, there's only gonna be 11 Clios on the grid at Thruxton this weekend, as JHR have pretty much ragequit the series.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 03 May 2014, 09:53

There has been a big crash at turn 2 involving one of the BMR racing cars but from where I am at turn 1, I can't tell who it was. The car is most probably not going to make qualifying.

Edit: turns out it was Alan Menu who's car got wrecked.
Edit 2: it must be Smith because Menu is on track right now.

OsellaFA1L · Post by **OsellaFA1L** » 03 May 2014, 11:07

First practice for DTM today, and Mercedes is already on the fast track to ROTR. Marco Wittman is fastest from Miguel Molina.

Post by **Miguel98** » 03 May 2014, 13:34

WTCC is in Hungary this weekend. And it seems that the Honda has, well, sort of, has managed to be much closer to Citröen. Tarquini actually was faster than the Citröen in Q2, but in Q3, even though the gap to the best non-Citröen, Monteiro, was pretty much 0.5 seconds.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 03 May 2014, 15:12

So a quick update...
Aron Smith isn't on track yet because his team still haven't repared the damage from the practice session this morning.
Plato got baulked by Stockton.
Adam Morgan is using a lot of kerb where I am at turn 1.
Update 1: Aron smith has just come out of the pits only for one of his brakelights to fall off

Post by **Londoner** » 04 May 2014, 13:16

CITROENWINSLOL is over! Great effort by Morbidelli to win Race 2 at the Hungaroring, and Tommy Coronel holding off Muller and Lopez for 4th! :mrgreen:

Christ, the WTCC lead commentator is bloody awful, constantly saying Munnich Motorsport have never won in WTCC. Well, what was Huffy doing last year in a geriatric SEAT?

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 04 May 2014, 13:59

Nick Foster has just had a big shunt at Church, thankfully he is ok.

Post by **Londoner** » 04 May 2014, 16:42

So that's three massive crashes at Church corner today. Thank heavens Simon Belcher and Ollie Jackson are alright. Two cars probably written off.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 04 May 2014, 17:01

Surely a penealty for Shedden for overtaking over yellow flags and at least am investigation for Jackson, Gawd those yusa cars in race 3, driving into poor old collard

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 04 May 2014, 17:04

andrew wrote:Surely a penealty for Shedden for overtaking over yellow flags and at least am investigation for Jackson, Gawd those yusa cars in race 3, driving into poor old collard

To be fair, I think Collard got more than a fair bit of revenge on Neal on the last lap

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 04 May 2014, 17:07

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
andrew wrote:Surely a penealty for Shedden for overtaking over yellow flags and at least am investigation for Jackson, Gawd those yusa cars in race 3, driving into poor old collard

To be fair, I think Collard got more than a fair bit of revenge on Neal on the last lap

By the looks of it Neal moved over on collard causing the initial nudge, then collard thaught I'm not taking this crap and treated the complex like it was a straight line

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 04 May 2014, 17:08

andrew wrote:at least am investigation for Jackson

Nope. There was a green flag right after Church.

andrew wrote:Gawd those yusa cars in race 3, driving into poor old collard

Well, maybe Collard should check his mirrors once in a while and stop being such a baby, it's hardly Matt Neal's fault if Collard tries to take himself off on Neal's front bumper.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 04 May 2014, 17:09

Salamander wrote:
andrew wrote:at least am investigation for Jackson

Nope. There was a green flag right after Church.

andrew wrote:Gawd those yusa cars in race 3, driving into poor old collard

Well, maybe Collard should check his mirrors once in a while and stop being such a baby, it's hardly Matt Neal's fault if Collard tries to take himself off on Neal's front bumper.

Ahh I wrote this before jacksons interview, it's not so much Neal that drove into collard, it was more Shedden

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 04 May 2014, 17:15

andrew wrote:Ahh I wrote this before jacksons interview, it's not so much Neal that drove into collard, it was more Shedden

It doesn't excuse Collard from acting like a toddler throwing a tantrum and taking himself and Neal off. That was completely ridiculous.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 04 May 2014, 17:19

Hmmm, I'll have to see the incident again to see if the contact on breaking caused anything, collard did drive into morgan on the 1st lap which caused platos retirement who was the innocent party (for once). Though that may have just been caused by first lap bunching.

Edit, this may be a bit harsh, but surely foster should be higher up, his teamate is leading the bleeding championship in arguabley the best car

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 04 May 2014, 17:39

andrew wrote:Ahh I wrote this before jacksons interview, it's not so much Neal that drove into collard, it was more Shedden

From how I saw it, Collard took Neal off because of the small tap Neal gave him literally 10 seconds before the contretemps. It was certainly immature from Collard, but I found it très amusant.