2012 UAE Grand Prix Discussion Thread

S951 · Post by **S951** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:02

KIMI you legend!!!

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:03

Raikonnen "Giving me shite!" :lol:

what a legend!!

Lord Fiddlebottom · Post by **Lord Fiddlebottom** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:03

Raikkonen...Wins......Flawless..Victory

Fetzie · Post by **Fetzie** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:03

14 Hundred Hours wrote:Kimi must be gutted he won a race where there's no actual champagne!

RTL mentioned his favourite drink, dubbed the "Sportsman's Drink":

100ml chilled mineral water, 100ml chilled vodka.

I'm willing to bet that Lotus found a hotel in Abu Dhabi that allows the consumption of alcohol.

Post by **mario** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:05

tristan1117 wrote:Great race. Excellent drives by Kimi, Vettel, Alonso, Pastor, Kobayashi and Button.

It was utterly bizarre at times though - it was as if half the field thought they were driving touring cars given the amount of body contact...

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:06

Wow Kimi influence on Vettel "bathplug it up" "Bloody quick"

Post by **Ataxia** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:07

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Nah, I lol'd...

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:07

Kimi Raikkonen, legendary.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:07

That was the best podium interview ever.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:08

What's with all the swearing?

It must be all the rosewater.

Minardi Man · Post by **Minardi Man** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:08

Kimi wins again, the rules go out the window :lol:

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:08

They should have drivers do it more often, so entertaining to hear them just letting it out

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:13

Obligatory Christain Horner inteview on Sky immediately after the podium ceremony. YAWN!

Talk to someone from Lotus! Grab Kimi, if he's not having an ice cream. Or a shite.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:21

And with three pieces of team radio and one on-site interview I am reminded why I loathe Kimi Räikkönen that much. Hopefully he grows tired of F1 again pretty quickly. Although his drive was without a shadow of a doubt awesome, a fully deserved victory.

But of course the story of this race is Vettel: this man has become a machine in recent months. It's like he was replaced by a Terminator from the future when nobody was watching. After a drive like this, something tells me it's going to take a lot of bad luck for him to be defeated. I can't wait until Austin arrives and this championship race continues.

Post by **Ataxia** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:27

Hamilton has taken his failure VERY well indeed, hasn't he?

Usually he'd hide behind his glasses with poker face, but he had some semblance of a smile just then.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:29

For possibly the first time ever, I feel really sorry for him. He would have walked that race had the car not failed.

Something else I've only just noticed in all the mayhem - no points for Mercedes again! And Kobayashi's points have moved Sauber fairly close to them now.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:33

1. Perez is an idiot. An idiot.

2. Kimi is awesome. Race-wise, radio-wise, media-wise.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:37

Barbazza wrote:For possibly the first time ever, I feel really sorry for him. He would have walked that race had the car not failed.

Something else I've only just noticed in all the mayhem - no points for Mercedes again! And Kobayashi's points have moved Sauber fairly close to them now.

The gap's now 12 points. Should be do-able, especially if Mercedes keep bathplugging up, and inevitable if Perez remembers how to finish a race.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:45

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Barbazza wrote:For possibly the first time ever, I feel really sorry for him. He would have walked that race had the car not failed.

Something else I've only just noticed in all the mayhem - no points for Mercedes again! And Kobayashi's points have moved Sauber fairly close to them now.

The gap's now 12 points. Should be do-able, especially if Mercedes keep bathplugging up, and inevitable if Perez remembers how to finish a race.

Well, Sauber, mostly Perez, has been bathplug it up as well.

Post by **Ataxia** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:47

KK's only 8 points behind Perez now.

Naturally, 8 points is the new gap between a McLaren drive and the JobCentre queue.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 04 Nov 2012, 15:50

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:KK's only 8 points behind Perez now.

Naturally, 8 points is the new gap between a McLaren drive and the JobCentre queue.

I would argue it is a case of pace vs consistency. Is it easier to teach a driver to be quick or easier to teach a driver to be consistent?

Senna and Kobayashi may be more consistent drivers, but in ultimate pace I would chose Maldonado and Perez every time.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 04 Nov 2012, 16:02

Shadaza wrote:
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:KK's only 8 points behind Perez now.

Naturally, 8 points is the new gap between a McLaren drive and the JobCentre queue.

I would argue it is a case of pace vs consistency. Is it easier to teach a driver to be quick or easier to teach a driver to be consistent?

Senna and Kobayashi may be more consistent drivers, but in ultimate pace I would chose Maldonado and Perez every time.

Maldonado and Perez.... Your team would always be in the headlines!

QuickYoda41 · Post by **QuickYoda41** » 04 Nov 2012, 16:05

Shadaza wrote:
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:KK's only 8 points behind Perez now.

Naturally, 8 points is the new gap between a McLaren drive and the JobCentre queue.

I would argue it is a case of pace vs consistency. Is it easier to teach a driver to be quick or easier to teach a driver to be consistent?

Senna and Kobayashi may be more consistent drivers, but in ultimate pace I would chose Maldonado and Perez every time.

I wouldn't call Kobayashi a really consistent driver, and Senna is consistently poor with a few exceptions. But it is really sad, if a generally quick and entertaining driver like Kobayashi doesn't have a place in F1. Although racking up some points like today might help him - please, please, please, please...

Oh, and Kimi won. That's great. (trying to be worthy for him in style :lol:

)

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 04 Nov 2012, 16:37

So what did Bernie say to Vettel?

Post by **tommykl** » 04 Nov 2012, 16:46

Jocke1 wrote:So what did Bernie say to Vettel?

Probably something along the lines of "now, say thank you to uncle Bernie".

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 04 Nov 2012, 16:46

Vettel was due another bad race this season, I said.

He's had it now and even Enoch's curse hasn't managed to move him away from the podium. I believe the championship is over now! :cry:

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:06

I wouldn't rule out Alonso. The next track is an unknown quantity and Ferrari has always done well in Interlagos.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:09

Benetton wrote:I wouldn't rule out Alonso. The next track is an unknown quantity and Ferrari has always done well in Interlagos.

Red Bull have won the last 3 races at Interlagos.

Benetton · Post by **Benetton** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:13

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Benetton wrote:I wouldn't rule out Alonso. The next track is an unknown quantity and Ferrari has always done well in Interlagos.

Red Bull have won the last 3 races at Interlagos.

Didn't say Red Bull was weak there or anything :lol:

Just that the track suits Ferrari maybe a bit more than the last two?

LellaLombardi · Post by **LellaLombardi** » 04 Nov 2012, 17:42

At the risk of sounding like an old fart, I wasn't very impressed by the drivers swearing in the interview. Mini Lella was watching. In the old-format interview I can't recall anyone swearing because it wasn't the sort of environment. Luckily I don't think she particularly noticed, she just kept asking "Why does Kimi look sad when he winned?"

I'm not anti swearing but there's a time and a place for it.

solarcold · Post by **solarcold** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:11

Russian TV turned that off before the conference started. What is the whole swearing thing about? Please tell me, want to know

Post by **Nuppiz** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:12

solarcold wrote:Russian TV turned that off before the conference started. What is the whole swearing thing about? Please tell me, want to know

Kimi said "shite", while Vettel said "bathplug" and "bloody".

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:14

Nuppiz wrote:
solarcold wrote:Russian TV turned that off before the conference started. What is the whole swearing thing about? Please tell me, want to know

Kimi said "shite", while Vettel said "bathplug" and "bloody".

To stoneface David Coulthard no less, than Vettel poured rose water over DC. Spongebob Squarechin kept a British stiff upper lip throughout.

solarcold · Post by **solarcold** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:18

Nuppiz wrote:
solarcold wrote:Russian TV turned that off before the conference started. What is the whole swearing thing about? Please tell me, want to know

Kimi said "shite", while Vettel said "bathplug" and "bloody".

Oh. Well I suppose what Vettel said wasn't that critical then.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:24

Shadaza wrote:To stoneface David Coulthard no less, than Vettel poured rose water over DC. Spongebob Squarechin kept a British stiff upper lip throughout.

Such a shame in the circumstances that they picked the wrong McLaren driver from the past. Mika interviewing Kimi would've been comedy gold.

"Well done Kimi"
"Yes"
"Congratulations on beating the Fernando and the Sebastian"
"Yes"

Interesting that for fairness they've had 2 BBC people and 2 Sky people doing the podium interviews. The score so far -

Eddie Jordan - Embarrassing
DC - Dull, though amazingly I don't think he used the word 'crucial'
Johnny Herbert - Great fun
Martin Brundle - Extremely professional and intelligent.

So I'm not regretting my decision to get Sky F1 then...

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:36

Barbazza wrote:
Shadaza wrote:To stoneface David Coulthard no less, than Vettel poured rose water over DC. Spongebob Squarechin kept a British stiff upper lip throughout.

Such a shame in the circumstances that they picked the wrong McLaren driver from the past. Mika interviewing Kimi would've been comedy gold.

"Well done Kimi"
"Yes"
"Congratulations on beating the Fernando and the Sebastian"
"Yes"

Interesting that for fairness they've had 2 BBC people and 2 Sky people doing the podium interviews. The score so far -

Eddie Jordan - Embarrassing
DC - Dull, though amazingly I don't think he used the word 'crucial'
Johnny Herbert - Great fun
Martin Brundle - Extremely professional and intelligent.

So I'm not regretting my decision to get Sky F1 then...

Just pray they don't send Damon Hill up there.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:44

Oh dear, I hadn't thought of that. It was much better when he was off racing (or playing golf or whatever?) and they had Anthony Davidson instead.

Mind you, if they did give Damon a go they'd have to give someone else from the BBC a go too. Who's left, Jake Humphrey?!

Dan B · Post by **Dan B** » 04 Nov 2012, 19:13

Barbazza wrote:Oh dear, I hadn't thought of that. It was much better when he was off racing (or playing golf or whatever?) and they had Anthony Davidson instead.

Mind you, if they did give Damon a go they'd have to give someone else from the BBC a go too. Who's left, Jake Humphrey?!

I hope for all humankind they don't send Darrell Waltrip up there for the upcoming race in Austin.

I mean I like DW, but his forte is with Nascar and to an extent V8s.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 04 Nov 2012, 19:15

Dan B wrote:
Barbazza wrote:Oh dear, I hadn't thought of that. It was much better when he was off racing (or playing golf or whatever?) and they had Anthony Davidson instead.

Mind you, if they did give Damon a go they'd have to give someone else from the BBC a go too. Who's left, Jake Humphrey?!

I hope for all humankind they don't send Darrell Waltrip up there for the upcoming race in Austin.

I mean I like DW, but his forte is with Nascar and to an extent V8s.

It could be Mario Andretti... that wouldn't be so bad.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 04 Nov 2012, 19:28

Dan B wrote:I hope for all humankind they don't send Darrell Waltrip up there for the upcoming race in Austin.