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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Well, I thought the rest of you would've been fairly sensible with the calendar. I don't mind Watkins Glen being dropped, but if you're gonna drop it, do it for a track that would actually suit F1, not bathplugging CLEVELAND. I mean, come on.

The new calendar looks much better, by the way. Road America gets a massive thumbs up from me.


Well, I could have been sensible when voting (the notion that expecting voters to be sensible is a silly expectation by the way, but that is not the topic here) or I could have chosen what is more fun, since that is kind of the point of this game, and no points in guessing what I did. You had your chance to vote and convince others to vote for the tracks you want, you didn't, tough luck.

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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:... you do realise that, at this point in time, Stefan Bellof is still in karts, right? He doesn't even move into Formula Ford until November 1979.


Strange... according to this thread, he failed to qualify for the last race and is currently racing for Shadow! :P

I intially thought I had made an age-related cock-up.... but it turns out that Bellof was 22 years of age in 1979, so it is possible he could have raced in F1!

As for drivers, I am thinking of adopting a Flaschenpost-style probability system
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JJMonty wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:... you do realise that, at this point in time, Stefan Bellof is still in karts, right? He doesn't even move into Formula Ford until November 1979.


Strange... according to this thread, he failed to qualify for the last race and is currently racing for Shadow! :P


Oh. Fair enough then. I don't really pay attention to the back of the grid. Except of course for when my cars retire, which is most of the time.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
JJMonty wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:... you do realise that, at this point in time, Stefan Bellof is still in karts, right? He doesn't even move into Formula Ford until November 1979.


Strange... according to this thread, he failed to qualify for the last race and is currently racing for Shadow! :P


Oh. Fair enough then. I don't really pay attention to the back of the grid. Except of course for when my cars retire, which is most of the time.

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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
JJMonty wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:... you do realise that, at this point in time, Stefan Bellof is still in karts, right? He doesn't even move into Formula Ford until November 1979.


Strange... according to this thread, he failed to qualify for the last race and is currently racing for Shadow! :P


Oh. Fair enough then. I don't really pay attention to the back of the grid. Except of course for when my cars retire, which is most of the time.



It's a different world at the back of the grid! Gotta be prepared for sending Audi into fictional reject status! ;)
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Right then, now that I have my chassis and engine sorted, which drivers are free for next season? Restov are pulling out of the race to sign Andretti because I just realised he's American and that might be a bit awkward for him in a Soviet backed team :lol:
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Right then, now that I have my chassis and engine sorted, which drivers are free for next season? Restov are pulling out of the race to sign Andretti because I just realised he's American and that might be a bit awkward for him in a Soviet backed team :lol:

I will post a full list of all drivers after the Australian Grand Prix, including my rating of their performance this year :)
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The hottest driver on the market,Mario Andretti,would make his decision on his future in F1 after the Australian Grand Prix.
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Ferrari will retain Gilles Villeneuve for 1980. He's been asked to keep up the pace, though.
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Shadow Ford have said before that Stefan Bellof is a massive talent, we have no intention of letting him go. He is going to be our team-leader next year too.
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And RAM will continue with Lammers, as he's a bigger talent than Bellof. And because he won a race, and Brancatelli didn't.
Mansell was already confirmed, and RAM has a feeling this guy might be something. Also RAM will be testing an experimental car with a moustache instead of a front wing.
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Wolf will continue with both Davey Clarke and Bruno Giacomelli for 1980. However, the team's future is far from secure, and it is not known if the team will last the season. Watch this space.
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Rebaque will retain O'Connell and Ghinzani.
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Ensign will retain Rossler and Sedlak
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Merzario will retain both Beppe Gabbiani and Simone Guidetti in yet to be defined roles. Our primary target is still Mario Andretti.
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Next year, Tyrrell's lineup will be Takagi and Pironi. Nurmester is still Tyrrell's tester. :)
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Won't anyone sign Rupert Keegan? :cry:
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tommykl wrote:Won't anyone sign Rupert Keegan? :cry:


Everyone's waiting to see what Andretti does first. However, AGS are looking at signing Keegan if Andretti goes elsewhere
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Keegan can be the reserve driver for Ferrari if he wishes...
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FMecha wrote:Next year, Tyrrell's lineup will be Takagi and Pironi. Nurmester is still Tyrrell's tester. :)

Nurmester agrees with this. Should Tyrrell have need for his services at either testing or races, Teo Fabi will take his place at Osella for as long as needed.
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In that case, Keegan will wait for Andretti's decision before choosing.
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Wizzie wrote:
tommykl wrote:Won't anyone sign Rupert Keegan? :cry:


Everyone's waiting to see what Andretti does first. However, AGS are looking at signing Keegan if Andretti goes elsewhere


So, when did Henri Julien join the fray? :P
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The season finale will take either on Friday at 7:00pm GMT
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1979 AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX

The title could have been won by 3 men - but who would it be?

Qualifying

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Qualifying was a tighter affair than usual, but unfotunately fo the teams at the back there were no surprises. Gilles Villeneuve took pole in the end for Ferrair, ahead of the two Williams, the two Ligiers, and the two Renaults, before Noah cried enough and went home, leaving Arnoux in 8th. Lammers extracted more than his team mate could from the car to line up 10th, ahead of Ghinzani, and both Merzarios. Harvey Jones will be diasspointed to start well down the order, as will Brabham, McLaren, and Tyrell - with Pironi starting 24th on his debut. At the back of the grid, Patrese and Prost start on the last row - while Depault, Fittipaldi, Sedlak, Bleekemolen, Giacomelli, and Ongais set for an early bath. Unfortunately this would be their last appearance at a competitive Formula One race, with the team pulling out of the sport as announced earlier. Giacomeeli will also be dissapointed to qualify so low down the order, this has probably meant that he will be without a drive next year.

Race - 71 Laps

Villeneuve led away from the line, and was able to keep the lead into the first corner. He managed to keep the lead for a few laps until Scheckter finally found a way past at the hairpin. The Andretti/Takagi saga would not lie down to die, as on lap 2, Takagi hit a McLaren at the first corner. Guess who? Yes, that's right - Andretti's replacement, Derek Daly. Both were out on the spot.

Scheckter proceeded to pull away in the early laps, as McAllister passed Villeneuve and then proceeded to hold everyone up behind him. This allowed both Ligiers, both Renaults, Arnoux and Alan Jones to close on McAllister and Villeneuve. The 8 cars reeled in Scheckter, and swapped positions more times than I can remember over the next 14 laps or so, and at one point even Lammers in 10th was in with a shout of moving further up the field.

Lammers pulled over on Lap 10 with suspension failure, after dropping back a little. Villeneuve's engine went up in smoke on lap 13, dropping the 9 to 8. Reutemann hit the wall and damaged his rear wing, forcing him into the pits to change it, dropping him a lap down in the process. By lap 17 however the field had calmed down, and Scheckter found himself in the lead ahaead of McAllister, Laffite, Arnoux, Jabouille, and Harvey Jones. Drama was to unfold two laps later however, as Arnoux had slipped behind Jabouille and was under pressure from Alan Jones. Jones went around the outside of Arnoux at the hairpin, but Arnoux didn't give up - the pair went side by side into the following left hander. Jones was on the inside, and forced Arnoux on the outside into the wall, and retirement!! Unbeleivable stuff! Arnoux was clearly distraught as this meant that he would not win the title.

Laffite passed McAllister, and found himself in the lead a few laps later whn Scheckter's Honda packed up. He was on course for the title now, as main title rival Kevin was down in 6th place...

Jabouille's Renault also passed McAllister, and in the next 7 laps had closed right up to the back of Laffite. However, Laffite responded with some fastest laps, and the gap was back up to 6 seconds 4 laps later. Alan Jones' promising day ended from 5th position on lap 30 with brake failure. Pironi had worked his way up into the points on his debut as well, remarkable since he started 24th.

Laffite's day at the front wsn't confirmed yet, with Kevin still running and McAllister catching and eventually passing on lap 38. With McAllister now in the lead, Laffite had dropped a further 5 seconds back by lap 46, before chaos emerged on the back straight. Niki Lauda was running seventh, but his engine failed on the back straight, causing him to suddenly slow. Prost was following close behind, and , mis sighteed in the smoke, hit Lauda, which sent him spinning down the road, taking out Ed Kevin, in 6th, who was negotiating the hairpin at the time. Prost's impact caused Lauda to veer back across the straight, where he was hit by the lapped Rossler. Rossler speared into the outside right wall, before coming back across the track, where he was hit by Patrese who was trying to thread his way through the wreckage. Watson and Harvey Jones, who had also fallen a lap down, were also caught up in the crash, which took place over only a few seconds. Wreckage was strewn all over the track, and although most of the drivers managed to extract themselves from the car, Prost and Rossler required specialist medical attention. Prost was conscious and talking, but Rossler hadn't moved since the accident, where Patrese had hit him hard. The leaders were unable to get through the wreckage, with that and the injuries to Rossler bringing out the red flag.

McAllister was still in the lead so took a subdued victory, ahead of Laffite and Jabouille. The podium celebrations were notably muted. Ed Kevin was distraught to have lost the title at the last hurdle - he didn't return to the motorhome till it had gone dark. Pironi had managed to stay out to claim 4th, aheead of Brambilla, Bellof, Dlay and Brancatelli. Ligier wrapped up the constructors as well with Ferrari failing to score.

Prost was taken to hospital in an ambulance, and was confirmed to have suffered a broken lft arm and wrist. Patrese maanaged to limp away from his car, but he had sprained both ankles and fractured his left leg, the same leg that he broke in Brazil. Rossler however wa sin a much more serious condition, but he was alive, and was taken to Royal Adelaide Hospital where he was stabilised. Doctors later confirmed that he had broken several ribs, his right leg, and his right collar bone, along with suffering internal bleeding and whiplash. He awoke the next day, and upon hearing the result, he urged Laffite and Ligier to celebrate their titles.

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Driver's Championship

Laffite wins the title with 2nd place, after Kevin and Laffite fail to finish. McAllister jumps to 4th and Bellof jumps Brancatelli.

1: Jacques Laffite - 69
2: Ed Kevin - 63
3: Rene Arnoux - 62
4: Callum McAllister - 48
5: Jody Scheckter - 44
6: Gilles Villeneuve - 40
7: Alan Jones - 36
8: Harvey Jones - 34
9: Carlos Reutemann - 34
10: Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 34
11: Jan Lammers - 27
12: Nelson Piquet - 24
13: Hiroshi Takagi - 17
14: Guilliame Gauthier - 16
15: Stefan Bellof - 15
16: Gianfranco Brancatelli - 14
17: John Watson - 10
18: Mario Andretti - 9
19: Niki Lauda - 8
20: James Hunt - 6
= Alain Prost - 6
= Derek Daly - 6
23: Keke Rosberg - 5
= Roberto Horford - 5
= Didier Pironi - 5
26: Andrea de Cesaris - 4
= Geoff Lees - 4
= Kieran Sutherland - 4
= Vittorio Brambilla - 4
30: Riccardo Patrese - 2
= Piercarlo Ghinzani - 2
= Padraig O'Connell - 2
= Bruno Giacomelli - 2
34: Thomas Nurmester - 1
= Davey Clarke - 1
= Simone Guidetti - 1

Constructor's Championship

Ligier wrap it up, Renault jump Williams and Lotus, while Shadow jump to 8th.

1: Ligier-Ford - 132
2: Ferrari - 102
3: Renault - 67
4: Lotus-Ford - 66
5: Williams-Ford - 62
6: Ram-Ferrari -35
7: Brabham-Ford - 32
8: Shadow-Ford - 28
9: McLaren-Ford - 31
10: Williams-Honda - 30
11: Tyrrell-Ford - 27
12: Alfa Romeo - 11
13: Arrows-Ford - 10
= Wolf-Ford - 10
15: RAM-Ford -5
= Merzario-Ford - 5
16: Rebaque-Ford - 4

I really hope you injoyed this year, it's been great for me and I hope you enjoyed it too. Please stick around for 1980: there will be a new thread, but first there will be race standings, roty nominations etc in this thread!

CONGRATULATIONS TO JACQUES LAFFITE AND LIGIER- 1979 WDC AND WCC!!
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I'm loving Renault in 3rd, but I'm fairly certain we should be behind Williams and Lotus.

EDIT: My bad, didn't notice the split between Williams-Ford and Williams-Honda. Still not sure about Lotus, though.
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The Daily Blah wrote:BREAKING NEWS:Andretti To........MERZARIO.

After being unceremoniously dumped by McLaren after just 14 races,Mario Andretti became the hottest signing for everyone in the F1 paddock as no less than three teams begged for his services in 1980:ATS,Merzario and debutants in 1980, Audi.

"It was not easy in rejecting the offer from ATS.They may have Porsche next year,but according to this year's performances,it was a very unlikely choice for me." said the 1978 Formula One World Champion."Choosing to drive for Merzario or Audi,however,became a much more difficult choice.Audi has precision engineering,a reputation from being an original member from Auto Union and seemed like a nice choice at first.But Merzario have Lamborghini,come from Italy,which I consider to be my second home,and they look promising for the future.So that is why I chose them.They are,without a doubt,the next Formula One team to make it big,and I hope I can help them succeed as well."

So,Mario Andretti will go to Merzario next year,and let's hope he detaches the Hiroshi Takagi magnet off the car first.
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In that case, ATS will sign Rupert Keegan for 1980.
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So that's Andretti confirmed in the first car. Second car still TBA.
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Wizzie wrote:In that case, ATS will sign Rupert Keegan for 1980.

Rupert naturally accepts the offer. A small drive is better than no drive at all.
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Is there a out-of-character explaination for the red-flag? :?
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FMecha wrote:Is there a out-of-character explaination for the red-flag? :?

The crashed cars blocked the road, and the leaders were going to plough straight into them so I called a red flag
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Here is the final championship standings. Wizzie correctly pointed out on the wiki that as the Austraian GP was stopped after less than 75% of the full race distance, half points were awarded.

Driver's Championship

Laffite wins the title with 2nd place, after Kevin and Laffite fail to finish. McAllister jumps to 4th and Bellof jumps Brancatelli.

1: Jacques Laffite - 65
2: Ed Kevin - 63
3: Rene Arnoux - 62
4: Jody Scheckter - 44
5: Callum McAllister - 43
6: Gilles Villeneuve - 40
7: Alan Jones - 36
8: Harvey Jones - 34
9: Carlos Reutemann - 34
10: Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 30
11: Jan Lammers - 27
12: Nelson Piquet - 24
13: Hiroshi Takagi - 17
14: Guilliame Gauthier - 16
15: Stefan Bellof - 13.5
16: Gianfranco Brancatelli - 13.5
17: John Watson - 10
18: Mario Andretti - 9
19: Niki Lauda - 8
20: James Hunt - 6
= Alain Prost - 6
22: Keke Rosberg - 5
= Roberto Horford - 5
= Derek Daly - 6
25: Andrea de Cesaris - 4
= Geoff Lees - 4
= Kieran Sutherland - 4
28: Didier Pironi - 2.5
29: Vittorio Brambilla - 2
= Riccardo Patrese - 2
= Piercarlo Ghinzani - 2
= Padraig O'Connell - 2
= Bruno Giacomelli - 2
34: Thomas Nurmester - 1
= Davey Clarke - 1
= Simone Guidetti - 1

Constructor's Championship

1: Ligier-Ford - 128
2: Ferrari - 102
3: Lotus-Ford - 70
4: Renault - 64
5: Williams-Ford - 62
6: Ram-Ferrari -35.5
7: Brabham-Ford - 32
8: McLaren-Ford - 30
9: Shadow-Ford - 28.5
10: Williams-Honda - 25
11: Tyrrell-Ford - 24.5
12: Alfa Romeo - 11
13: Arrows-Ford - 10
= Wolf-Ford - 10
15: RAM-Ford -5
16: Rebaque-Ford - 4
= Merzario-Ford - 3

End of Season Awards

World Driver's Champion - Jacques Laffite
Okay, he may have had things made easier for him in the season finale, but the fact he was behind going into Australia despite winning 3 times illustrates the ups and downs of his season. There were highs, his superb charge from down the order to win the French GP, there were lows, like Belgium, where he retired from the lead with so few laps to go. But overall, Laffite has never given up, and in a season that's been up and down more times than West Ham United, consistency is the key, and finsihing in the points in all but one of your classified finishes sounds like consistency to me.


World Constructor's Champion - Ligier
Ligier looked like they might win this since Austria, when the team took a 1-2 finish, but they had to fight towards the end when the competitiveness dropped away and Ferrari came snapping. Taking 5 wins from 1979, a figure only equalled by Williams, Ligier were in contention at the start of every weekend. They may have been gifted by Williams' decision to switch engine supplier halfway through the year, and Ferrari's dire reliability in the last 5 races, but this shouldn't detract from the fact Ligier took the most podiums of any team.


Reject of the year: Mario Andretti

Who could beleive he was reigning champion? A 4th at the season opener in Argentina signalled to some theat his and McLaren's fortunes were still high. But the fact that James Hunt's Wolf finished ahead on the road should have sent alarm bells ringing for the American's season. Across the 13 races that he competed in, he racked up a measly 9 points, 1 DNQ, and 5 retiremets. Of those 5 retirements, 3 were self-inflicted in a stupid, moronic but highly dramatic feud with Hiroshi Takagi - the pair famously colliding 3 times in 4 races in a bizarre sequence of events that is sure to go down in history.

Drive of the Year - Jan Lammers, Spanish Grand Prix

One Dutch driver who hasn't finished higher than 8th prior to this race this year? Check. One RAM-80 chassis that's a point scorer at best? Check. One tight and twisty circuit not known for overtaking? Check. Add them all together and what do you get - surely ot a win? But a win is what it was, and what a win indeed. He showed some of his pace in qualifying, setting the 4th fastest time, but fell down to fifth position with 14 laps to go. Within one lap he was up to fourth, and proceeded to eat into the gap to the leading Ligier of Laffite and second palced man Gilles Villeneuve. Closing in at a second per lap, he was able to pass both, and then eek out a four second lead by the flag!
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Volkswagen HQ just called. JLD and Audi are both to use the same engine for next year, which will be developed in association with the TAG Group with the JLD engines being rebadged as Porsche. That is all*

*Well, it was either that or start posting rumours that Volkswagen were about to pull the plug on the Audi program to focus on introducing the new Audi Quattro to rallying for 1980, leaving Porsche as the group's sole brand in F1.
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Audi have been left bitterly disapointed with the news that Andretti has decided to join Mezario - however we also respect his decission because racing for your home colours is a proud part of motor-racing history!

Audi would also like to confirm (as they have no choice it would appear :P ) that JLD will indeed be using the same Straight 3 Turbo-Charged unit as Audi. However whilst they will be developed by TAG - we will continue to develop our engines in-house, meaning that we will be keeping them as Audi branded engines.


Regarding the drivers side - With Andretti out of the picture, we are still looking at our backup option Niki Lauda (although I suspect his future is already decided).

Finally, with our plans to have a spiritted young German driver to push our brand forwards seeming to be scuppered... we have made contact with two highly experienced German drivers who could be seen in Audi overals soon.

These are Jochen Mass and Rolf Stommelen.
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Just to double confirm,McLaren keeps Derek Daly on for 1980 alongside Guillame Gauthier.
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Beppe Gabbiani would like to make it known his services are still available for 1980, and he has Parmalat sponsorship to bring with him.

As for Merzario, we would like to make an enquiry into the availability of Riccardo Patrese.
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I'll be opening a 1980 thread before dawn in the UK breaks, so 198 discussions can occur there :) :D :P
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