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Nuppiz wrote:All of my drivers so far have been "good guys", i.e. they don't behave badly. However, here's a story which could go either way, depending on the future of F1RGP2C (I've read that the series might end next season to avoid conflicting with the archaic F1CC). By leaving the case open for now, I can then make Nurminen either guilty or not at the end of this season (as the investigation on the matter and he eventual court process take place during it). It also serves as an explanation on why Nurminen never resurfaced in F1 after 1997 and the failed Precision Motorsports project.


At first glance, the F1RGP2C/F1CC merger seems logical. But when you examine the details of both series, things become less clear. How could I explain Douglas Mann's return to Williams, just two years after his acrimonious split with the team in 1995? Why would Pippa Mann leave Williams for Mastercard Lola? Wouldn't there be two Tristan Jungs in the timeline if he drives in 1997 and is the time-traveling commissioner in 1996 (which is already established in the main timeline)? I don't really know what to do yet. I'll think of something.
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tristan1117 wrote:At first glance, the F1RGP2C/F1CC merger seems logical. But when you examine the details of both series, things become less clear. How could I explain Douglas Mann's return to Williams, just two years after his acrimonious split with the team in 1995? Why would Pippa Mann leave Williams for Mastercard Lola?

I'm sure I could work something out. Change in team management between seasons, allowing Douglas back in? Pippa falling out with management, or just wanting to join yet another new team (after Simtek and DAMS)?
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The problem for me is that Poppy Whitechapel will have to move back down to F3000 for 1997, before returning to F1 in 1998, for this to work. :?

Keep it as it is, don't merge it with the F1CC I say, then we won't have these problems. :|
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East Londoner wrote:The problem for me is that Poppy Whitechapel will have to move back down to F3000 for 1997, before returning to F1 in 1998, for this to work. :?

Keep it as it is, don't merge it with the F1CC I say, then we won't have these problems. :|

But I already had it in my mind that they would be related series, and how I was going to explain the Mann's move to another series (while retaining McFry and Fleet here as they were not in F1CC).

And the situation with Poppy would be just the same as what Tim O'Glock or GRSJN have done in the real universe...
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James Davies also has a solid contract with McLaren and is quite happy there, so (at least for now) there's no reason for him to leave. Also, F1CC James Davies was before I decided to write him up as an annoying braggart. So you also have a massive personality shift. It'd be best not to combine this with the F1CC, I think.
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So there is a duoverse with some of our drivers in F1CC and their parrallels in this universe? Would be the logical way of looking at it.
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Masta Valsattis:
"Its disappointing to retire close to the end, especially as I was running well in 6th. The Sauber lacks a bit of pace over a flying lap but on the heavy fuel runs, has good pace. I'm hoping my second and final race with Sauber brings a inish inside the top 10."
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Round 2: Brazil
Q1: Heavy Wet, Q2: Inter Wet

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1. Tom Douglas (Ferrari) - 1:11.364
2. Daniel Moreno (Williams) - 1:11.483
3. Pippa Mann (Williams) - 1:11.717
4. Andrew Spokes (Benetton) - 1:11.755
5. John Zimmer (Benetton) - 1:11.982
6. James Davies (McLaren) - 1:12.235
7. Rory McAllister (McLaren) - 1:12.282
8. Kazuhiko Takagi (Ferrari) - 1:12.322
9. Masta Valsattis (Sauber) - 1:12.457
10. Damon Cannon (Jordan) - 1:12.497
11. Douglas Mann (Ligier) - 1:12.551
12. Leonhard von Gottorp (Jordan) - 1:12.681
13. Pieter Kickert (Sauber) - 1:12.806

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14. Jorg Scrattenheim (Footwork) - 1:13.030
15. Clivio Durand (Tyrrell) - 1:13.246
16. Poppy Whitechapel (Tyrrell) - 1:13.688
17. Reiko Megumi (Ligier) - 1:13.990
18. Miko Fakkinen (Minardi) - 1:14.732
19. Kazuyoshi Hoshino (Footwork) - 1:15.035
20. Gio van Dycke (Minardi) - 1:16.098
21. Giovanni Roda (Forti) - 1:16.185
22. Ben Fleet (DAMS) - 1:16.490
23. Martin McFry (Forti) - 1:16.655
24. Niko Nurminen (DAMS) - 1:16.750
25. Anton Kaliniczenko (Pacific) - 1:17.535
26. Artiom Zielenkovski (Pacific) - 1:17.536


Tom Douglas takes his second consecutive pole to open the season, slotting in front of Daniel Moreno's Williams. The Williamses, Benettons, and McLarens all followed in succession. Masta Valsattis excelled in both wet sessions, dragging his Sauber into ninth place, well ahead of his teammate. We'll see if he keeps it up during the race. At the back, Megumi continued her generally useless form. She did out-qualify Kazuyoshi Hoshino who was miles off the pace for the second race running. Niko Nurminen, fresh off accusations of assault, was beaten by Fleet and McFry in the Forti. The Pacifics were nearly a second off their closest rivals and financial problems are swirling around the team.
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Masta Valsattis:
I've always liked driving in wet conditions and coupled with a good-handling car, 9th place is a brilliant achivement. I'm hoping to continue the good progress in the race and sign off from Sauber with a competitive finish.
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Damon Cannon wrote:OK, so the car is slightly sluggish in wet trim. No bother, we'll pull it together on Sunday.


Poppy Whitechapel wrote:Why oh why did I decide to stay for another season with Tyrrell? :|
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Artiom Zielenkovski wrote:This car is the shite,before the season we were promised that the car is good and what is crap.
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Well, looks like DAMS has reliability issues.
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Is it just me, or is true that both my drivers (Takagi and Megumi) in this qualifying are DBTMOTQ candidates? Although, the gap between them are not that long. :?

Who's Australian GP DBTMOTR?

And seperating F1CC and F1RGP2C would cause more retcon, as I said in wild mass guessing page on the wiki. Not only with F1CC, but also with RTCC (Robert Anderson, which is planning to drive if someone is suspended/sacked this year as well as for Stewart in 1997(if it happens)), in my opinion. :|
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FMecha wrote:And seperating F1CC and F1RGP2C would cause more retcon, as I said in wild mass guessing page on the wiki. Not only with F1CC, but also with RTCC (Robert Anderson, which is planning to drive if someone is suspended/sacked this year as well as for Stewart in 1997(if it happens)), in my opinion. :|


I think this is where our reckless disregard for continuity comes back to bite us in the ass... though, we could always just adopt the many-worlds theory. In this iteration of the universe, F1CC may exist, but some of the drivers here will not drive there as they did in Jeroen's iteration of the universe. Because there is absolutely no way Davies is leaving this, given that it's the only series he seems to be at least halfway decent in, and as I mentioned earlier, would require him to lose the only thing that makes him interesting to write.
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The biggest problem with F1CC is that it was one of our first championships, even predating F1RWRS (if I recall correctly). So many of the characters were still in an early developmental phase when it happened. Take Nick Nurmester for example; in F1CC, he drove in 1997 and had a weird accent, but in the current continuity he is born in 1989 and speaks normally.

I'd say that F1RGP2C should continue beyond 1996, and F1CC be declared as an alternate universe, a historical relic of sorts.
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Nuppiz wrote:The biggest problem with F1CC is that it was one of our first championships, even predating F1RWRS (if I recall correctly). So many of the characters were still in an early developmental phase when it happened. Take Nick Nurmester for example; in F1CC, he drove in 1997 and had a weird accent, but in the current continuity he is born in 1989 and speaks normally.

I'd say that F1RGP2C should continue beyond 1996, and F1CC be declared as an alternate universe, a historical relic of sorts.


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Back to positives and negatives:

Postives:
Tom Douglas - Douglas took his second win at the Interlagos circuit in three years after a magnificent performance in the wet. At the start, Douglas held the lead but gave it up at the Senna S on Lap 2 to Daniel Moreno. Moreno led until his pit stop on Lap 15 with Douglas holding station just two seconds back. However, Douglas then pulled two brilliant laps, including the fastest lap of the race, which placed the Ferrari into the lead. Douglas held off Moreno for the entire race to take his first win for Ferrari and his first win of the year.

Daniel Moreno - Moreno could have won this race but he was forced settle for second place for the second race in a row. Moreno now takes the lead in the championship after Zimmer's retirement.

Pippa Mann - And Pippa Mann finally gets out of reject status with her first podium, points and finish for Williams (and her first points since Monaco 1994). Hooray!

Masta Valsattis - IIDOTR for you! He drove brilliantly, kept the car on the road and survived the attrition-packed race. He also set the sixth fastest lap of the race, exiting reject status in style.

Gio van Dycke - Yes! Another point for Minardi!

Miko Fakkinen - Fakkinen was on a one-stopper but van Dycke managed to catch and pass him on the last lap of the race to get the final point. D'oh.

Negatives:

Poppy Whitechapel - The most frustrated driver in the series, by far, continues her miserable time at Tyrrell. Apart from being slightly outperformed by Clivio Durand this year, Whitechapel has steadily stayed in the exact same spot for the last three years. She drove well again today, holding sixth place until she retired with four laps to go.

Benetton - Andrew Spokes was on his way to another good points finish before he binned the car with ten laps to go. John Zimmer was running in third place before his transmission gave up. A double-DNF for Benetton.

Kazuhiko Takagi - Takagi was outmatched by most of his rivals today, especially his teammate. He was also in the points before his car gave up with a transmission problem. On the positive side, Takagi avoided getting crushed by a flying car during the race, which I will get to later.

Ligier - We'll get to Reiko Megumi later but Douglas Mann entered the negatives again today after a miserable day at Ligier. The Mugen-Honda engine just gave up on him, the main reason he left Williams last year.

Hart - Two cars, two engine failures.

Reiko Megumi - Can we officially call Reiko Megumi the Andrea de Crasheris of this series? To set the stage, James Davies has just had a massive crash at the Senna S on lap 3. It was like Michael Andretti's crash in 1993, except he managed to turn his McLaren onto the elevated section on the hill. Davies was still going fast enough to pop his car into the air. When he landed, the entire front suspension of his car fell off, damaging the steering and sending the McLaren into oncoming traffic. The car then hit the curbing, again sending the car airborne, before it flew straight in front of Kazuhiko Takagi, missing him by a few feet. The car came to a stop before rolling back onto the racing surface (not sure if Davies was trying to rejoin the track or if the car rolled down the hill). The yellow flags came out. It was very clear that an accident had occurred. Then came Reiko Megumi in the Ligier, barreling through the corner like nothing was there. Megumi tried to brake to avoid hitting Davies but the surface was too wet and she slammed straight into Davies' car at 95 mph, knocking a wheel off. Due to GP2 physics, Megumi's car was undamaged but Davies was most definitely knocked out of the race. What the hell was that? Megumi=ROTR.

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Lead Changes:
Tom Douglas: 1
Daniel Moreno: 2-15
Tom Douglas: 16-19
Zimmer: 20
Douglas: 21-71

Drivers' Standings:
1. Daniel Moreno - 12
=2 John Zimmer - 10
=2 Tom Douglas - 10
4. Leonhard von Gottorp - 5
5. Andrew Spokes - 4
= Pippa Mann - 4
7. Masta Valsattis - 3
8. Rory McAllister - 2
=9 Damon Cannon - 1
=9 Gio van Dycke - 1

Constructors' Standings:
1. Williams - 16
2. Benetton - 14
3. Ferrari - 10
4. Jordan - 6
5. Sauber - 3
6. McLaren - 2
7. Minardi - 1
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I really don't want F1RGP2C to end, in my opinion it is the easiest of the alternate championships to keep track of. Besides, I never really was that interested in the F1CC.

So I would prefer that the F1RGP2C continues in its current form.
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Van Dycke had become a very good backmarker racer... (though still an afwul qualifier)
This might explain why he could do a comeback in 2014 F1RWRS...


And oh, Ligier still believes they can become champion. Wait and see!
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tristan1117 wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:The biggest problem with F1CC is that it was one of our first championships, even predating F1RWRS (if I recall correctly). So many of the characters were still in an early developmental phase when it happened. Take Nick Nurmester for example; in F1CC, he drove in 1997 and had a weird accent, but in the current continuity he is born in 1989 and speaks normally.

I'd say that F1RGP2C should continue beyond 1996, and F1CC be declared as an alternate universe, a historical relic of sorts.


I have a theory. It is coming soon...


Theory posted on the wild mass guessing page.

Edit: Methinks I am reading too much Phillip K. Dick, specifically "The Man in the High Castle".
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Masta Valsattis:
"I'm delighted to finish the race today amid difficult conditions. I've always done well in the wet and knew that a point finish was a real possibility. The Sauber was such an easy car to drive and I'm thrilled I can sign off with a 4th place. Hopefully, I can re-create the same performances for Ligier now I rejoin them. I wish Sauber all the best for the year and look forward to fighting with them throughout 1996. Thank you Sauber for giving me the chance to fill in for you.
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James Davies wrote:Reiko Megumi is the worst excuse for a racing driver I have seen in my life. I'm not really sure what happened, memory's a little fuzzy after Megumi hit me - if I have a concussion and have to miss a race, there'll be hell to pay. I think maybe I braked a bit too hard, and the right-front brake wasn't that responsive for some reason, and the car just sort of drifted off track. Of course, now we'll never know since it's impossible to tell with the damage what was already there. There was no chance of me rejoining the race, though, I remember clearly that the steering was shot after I landed, and I couldn't control the car at all. Then of course, Megumi apparently decides to misplace her eyeballs and drives straight into me. The useless bathplug.
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Sorry to impose more chaos on the Liguer driving lineup, but Reiko Megumi has been banned for one race for ignoring yellow flags and causing a collision. She will also have a suspended two-race ban, to be enacted if more crazy antics follow. A replacement driver is needed; Eadbard O'Caohmin, Sebastien Belo and JDD are available.
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tristan1117 wrote:Reiko Megumi has been banned for one race for ignoring yellow flags and causing a collision. She will also have a suspended two-race ban, to be enacted if more crazy antics follow.


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DAMS had a shot finishing in the top ten at least with Nurminen, but it seems the Ford engine is fragile.

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This/Tristan: would you like to put Robert Anderson during Megumi's suspension? (Of course if Megumi loses the appeal) :)

Also, rumor has it that Megumi glassed Andreas Stefano, and nearly did the same to Davies, hours after race... :roll:
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Kazuhiko Takagi wrote:I can do better if my transmission did not commit a bathpluging seppuku. :evil:


Andreas Stefano wrote:I support what James Davies, of McLaren, said against [Reiko] Megumi and I want she be DISQUALIFIED, I repeat, DISQUALIFIED from this Grand Prix. :twisted:

And no, the rumors that Megumi glassed me are completely UNTRUE. I REPEAT, UNTRUE.


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Reiko Megumi wrote:I can't brake to avoid [James] Davies because of the rain. :roll: I'm appealing the ban.

And no, I did not glass [Andreas] Stefano.
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Damon Cannon wrote:I clearly spoke too soon. After a poor start, I worked my way back up to the cusp of the points-paying positions and was about to overtake Masta when the team radioed me telling me to retire the car, as they had spotted wisps of blue smoke belching out of the Peugeot crapbox down the pit straight. :evil: .


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FMecha wrote:Also, rumor has it that Megumi glassed Andreas Stefano, and nearly did the same to Davies, hours after race... :roll:


James Davies is reportedly pressing charges against Megumi follow the alleged attempted glassing incident, citing, "Megumi is a complete bathplugging psychopath, and can't seem to accept the fact that she is as shite as she is." He went on to add, "She should try to stop being shite, she's a danger to everybody."

No witnesses have come forward as of yet.

FMecha wrote:
Reiko Megumi wrote:I can't brake to avoid [James] Davies because of the rain. :roll: I'm appealing the ban.

And no, I did not glass [Andreas] Stefano.


James Davies wrote:Bullshite. The yellow flags were waving clearly, the rain wasn't that hard. You had plenty of time to notice them or me, and slow down - even knocking a couple miles an hour off your speed would've let you avoid me. Maybe you should try not being shite once in a while, you might crash less.
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