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NASCAR Whelen Euro:
Domenico Schiattarella

Blancpain Endurance Series:
Markus Winkelhock
Bruno Senna
Bernd Schneider

Formula E (including 2014-15)
Senna
Karun Chandhok
Scott Speed
Jaime Alguersuari
Jerome d'Ambrosio
Sebastien Buemi
Vitantonio Liuzzi
Lucas Di Grassi
Stephane Sarrazin

Global Rallycross:
Speed

Indycar:
Sebastien Bourdais
Justin Wilson

Indy Lights:
Max Chilton

World Endurance Championship:
Anthony Davidson
Buemi
Kazuki Nakajima
Sarrazin
Liuzzi
Andre Lotterer
Di Grassi
David Brabham
Gianmaria Bruni
Pedro Lamy

World Touring Car Championship:
Gabriele Tarquini

GT Asia Series:
Liuzzi

United SportsCar Championship:
Bourdais
Max Papis
Bruni
Lamy
Jan Magnussen
Olivier Beretta
M. Winkelhock

Pirelli World Challenge:
Beretta

Porsche GT Cup Brazil:
Ricardo Rosset

Stock Car Brazil:
Rosset
Luciano Burti
Enrique Bernoldi
Chico Serra
Antonio Pizzonia

Endurance Racing Series - Class 1
Mike Wilds

Audi R8 LMS Cup China:
Alex Yoong

Turismo Carretera:
Gaston Mazzacane

Australian GT Championship:
Tomas Enge

AutoGP:
Pizzonia


If there's more who I forgot to list of have yet to be mentioned till later in the season just reply right away.
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Norberto Fontana is racing in both Turismo Carretera and Super TC2000, as has been the case for some time now. Curiously though, despite most TC drivers also campaigning in Super TC2000, Gaston Mazzacane is one of the few to be sticking solely to TC.
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Klien was in the WEC in the ByKolles car at the first race of the year at Silverstone. Not sure if he'll stick around though.
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AndreaModa wrote:Klien was in the WEC in the ByKolles car at the first race of the year at Silverstone. Not sure if he'll stick around though.

Klien's not a reject: 6th in Spa 2004 and 5th in Shanghai 2005 ;)
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AndreaModa wrote:Klien was in the WEC in the ByKolles car at the first race of the year at Silverstone. Not sure if he'll stick around though.

Klien's not a reject: 6th in Spa 2004 and 5th in Shanghai 2005 ;)


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Super Formula has:

Andre Lotterer
Kazuki Nakajima
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Aerond wrote:Super Formula has:

Andre Lotterer
Kazuki Nakajima

That segways nicely into Super GT, which has Yuji Ide making a comeback, albeit only in the GT300 class. Only managed to finish 18th in class at Okayama!
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Kazuki Nakajima broke his vertebra in a practice accident at Spa in WEC.
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Backmarker wrote:Kazuki Nakajima broke his vertebra in a practice accident at Spa in WEC.


Nasty, get well soon Kazuki.
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Antonio Pizzonia was leading the Auto GP race at the Hungaroring, but got passed on the last lap by Facundo Regalia. There are only 9 drivers in Auto GP this year.
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What constitutes a reject? Forgive this question if it seems obvious, the search function on this site does not conduct searches for the term 'reject'. I was under the impression that the criteria are the same as what they were on the old site. Yes, I understand that this site is a different one managed by different people. Nonetheless, the main criterion on the old site was that the driver etc., try as they might (bless them), could not muster more than 2 points on the track.

If that is still how a reject is determined, then Kazuki Nakajima should not be on Rejectwatch. It is my opinion that he was better for Williams than Felipe Massa will ever be. I might be the only one to write it, but I know I'm not the only one to think it. I'm not holding a torch for Kazu or anthing, his career in F1 is over. It would have been nice to see him race for one or two more seasons, though.

If there is another scoring system in place, perhaps handicapped to their current series, I would like to know more. I don't follow all these series as I'm too skint to pay for real cable. I'm pretty much only interested in F1 and the juicy bits of Le Mans, but these other options have sparked my interest.
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Dave wrote:What constitutes a reject? Forgive this question if it seems obvious, the search function on this site does not conduct searches for the term 'reject'. I was under the impression that the criteria are the same as what they were on the old site. Yes, I understand that this site is a different one managed by different people. Nonetheless, the main criterion on the old site was that the driver etc., try as they might (bless them), could not muster more than 2 points on the track.


No, it was not points-based. The criteria to leave rejectdom was any combination of:

  • Any top 4 finish
  • 1 5th and 1 6th place finish
  • 3 6th place finishes

And even as someone who still thinks Massa should've hung up the helmet years ago, to say that he's worse than Nakajima is a bit silly. Although Nakajima looked a bit promising in 2008, there was no excuse for him to walk away from 2009 without a single point, especially since I don't think even Rosberg got the most out of that car.
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Dave wrote:What constitutes a reject? Forgive this question if it seems obvious, the search function on this site does not conduct searches for the term 'reject'. I was under the impression that the criteria are the same as what they were on the old site. Yes, I understand that this site is a different one managed by different people. Nonetheless, the main criterion on the old site was that the driver etc., try as they might (bless them), could not muster more than 2 points on the track.

If that is still how a reject is determined, then Kazuki Nakajima should not be on Rejectwatch. It is my opinion that he was better for Williams than Felipe Massa will ever be. I might be the only one to write it, but I know I'm not the only one to think it. I'm not holding a torch for Kazu or anthing, his career in F1 is over. It would have been nice to see him race for one or two more seasons, though.

If there is another scoring system in place, perhaps handicapped to their current series, I would like to know more. I don't follow all these series as I'm too skint to pay for real cable. I'm pretty much only interested in F1 and the juicy bits of Le Mans, but these other options have sparked my interest.

As Salamander mentioned above, the criteria was changed way back in 2003 to accommodate for the new points systems. Essentially, a reject is a driver who would not have scored more than two points in a 8/9/10-6-4-3-2-1 system. This is why Sébastien Buemi is a reject but Bob Gerard is not.
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Dave wrote:What constitutes a reject? Forgive this question if it seems obvious, the search function on this site does not conduct searches for the term 'reject'. I was under the impression that the criteria are the same as what they were on the old site. Yes, I understand that this site is a different one managed by different people. Nonetheless, the main criterion on the old site was that the driver etc., try as they might (bless them), could not muster more than 2 points on the track.

If that is still how a reject is determined, then Kazuki Nakajima should not be on Rejectwatch. It is my opinion that he was better for Williams than Felipe Massa will ever be. I might be the only one to write it, but I know I'm not the only one to think it. I'm not holding a torch for Kazu or anthing, his career in F1 is over. It would have been nice to see him race for one or two more seasons, though.

If there is another scoring system in place, perhaps handicapped to their current series, I would like to know more. I don't follow all these series as I'm too skint to pay for real cable. I'm pretty much only interested in F1 and the juicy bits of Le Mans, but these other options have sparked my interest.
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Alexis van de Poele will race this weekend at the A1 Ring.
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Nevermind Alexis van de Poele, I'm interested in Doreen Seidel. Relation to Wolfgang, perhaps?
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Indeed, Alexis's Eric's son.

https://www.audi-mediacenter.com/de/aud ... ele-b-3837

They've been interviewed together in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92fKmae ... e=youtu.be
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tommykl wrote:Nevermind Alexis van de Poele, I'm interested in Doreen Seidel. Relation to Wolfgang, perhaps?

I'll be following the doings of one Rahel Frey.
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Svindal? Neureuther? Hirscher? I see who will be finishing in the last three places then.
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tommykl wrote:Nevermind Alexis van de Poele, I'm interested in Doreen Seidel. Relation to Wolfgang, perhaps?

A Google Search has yielded some images that are inappropriate for a family forum such as this one...
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Simtek wrote:
tommykl wrote:Nevermind Alexis van de Poele, I'm interested in Doreen Seidel. Relation to Wolfgang, perhaps?

A Google Search has yielded some images that are inappropriate for a family forum such as this one...

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Christ! No-one tell dr-baker!
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Honestly, what do you expect with a car sponsored by Playboy?
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Jocke1 wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:
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Oh, how the mighty have fallen.


>Mighty
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:lol:

Jokes aside, Speed's actually been hanging around that series for a few years now, and has had some success. Which is a step up from where he was a few years ago - DNQ'ing for the Indy 500, being sacked from a NASCAR field filler team...
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More of a Rejectspot than a Rejectwatch, but I saw something on Pietro Fantin's Draco in the FR3.5...check the rear wing.

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Ataxia wrote:More of a Rejectspot than a Rejectwatch, but I saw something on Pietro Fantin's Draco in the FR3.5...check the rear wing.

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Motori Moderni still exists? What are they doing these days?
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Simtek wrote:
Ataxia wrote:More of a Rejectspot than a Rejectwatch, but I saw something on Pietro Fantin's Draco in the FR3.5...check the rear wing.

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Motori Moderni still exists? What are they doing these days?


A 4-cylinder (in good old tradition) boxer engine for ultralight aircraft. Judging from what I read here, it looks like it's indeed the same company (they proudly state they've worked with almost-F1 reject* Fulvio Maria Ballabio's Montecarlo Automobile, and, afaik, one of Montecarlo's GTs sported a Motori Moderni V12 engine). I don't think they have any other commitment to motorsport anymore, apart from this sponsorship.

*by which I mean, he would have probably been a F1 reject, hadn't he been denied a superlicence.
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Would be so cool if they popped one of those aircraft engines in the back of a racing car, though... Watch it going nowhere!
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http://www.audi-motorsport-asia.com/en/News?pid=67 Alex Yoong has defended his championship in the Audi R8 LMS Cup, becoming two-time champion in the fledgling series.
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golic_2004 wrote:http://www.audi-motorsport-asia.com/en/News?pid=67 Alex Yoong has defended his championship in the Audi R8 LMS Cup, becoming two-time champion in the fledgling series.

Good luck to him. However, I'm probably right in saying the series is a bit... thin... on talent...
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As it is a fledgling series, I wouldn't necessarily say many big names would choose to drive for that series. I do wish them all the best in their careers, especially those who are in the infancy of their racing endeavors.
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golic_2004 wrote:As it is a fledgling series, I wouldn't necessarily say many big names would choose to drive for that series. I do wish them all the best in their careers, especially those who are in the infancy of their racing endeavors.

Formula E is also essentially a fledgling series...
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dr-baker wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:As it is a fledgling series, I wouldn't necessarily say many big names would choose to drive for that series. I do wish them all the best in their careers, especially those who are in the infancy of their racing endeavors.

Formula E is also essentially a fledgling series...


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golic_2004 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:As it is a fledgling series, I wouldn't necessarily say many big names would choose to drive for that series. I do wish them all the best in their careers, especially those who are in the infancy of their racing endeavors.

Formula E is also essentially a fledgling series...


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I didn't notice until now that Enrique Bernoldi took part in the Lamborghini Super Trofero North America series this year where he finished runner-up in the pro standings with 2 wins.
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I didn't want to create new topic, but found out that Paolo Barilla is participating Monaco Grand Prix Historique this weekends.

Another reject I found is of course :deletraz:

Non-reject former F1 drivers participating are Alex Caffi and Emanuele Pirro.
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