Unpopular F1 opinions

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 03 Mar 2010, 13:44

Derek Warwick would have been a multiple Grand Prix winner if his career hadn't been ruined by Ayrton Senna.
The new Hockenheim layout produces better Grand Prix than the old one....though I still mourn the passing of the old one.
Half Schumacher was a great driver before his Indy accidents.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 03 Mar 2010, 20:31

Alain Prost is the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Mar 2010, 20:35

redbulljack14 wrote:Alain Prost is the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time.

Agreed.

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 03 Mar 2010, 20:47

Heikki Kovalinen is a better driver than anyone thinks.
Stefan GP should not be allowed on the grid.
Nick Heidfeld should of drove for McLaren in 2002.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 03 Mar 2010, 21:01

who needs grammar?

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 03 Mar 2010, 21:54

dr-baker wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:Alain Prost is the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time.

Agreed.

I thought this was going to be one of the most unpopular opinions.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 03 Mar 2010, 22:04

redbulljack14 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:Alain Prost is the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time.

Agreed.

I thought this was going to be one of the most unpopular opinions.

I'm only one other person. Or do I have the final say now? Now that would be unpopular...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Mar 2010, 23:25

dr-baker wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:Alain Prost is the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time.

I'm only one other person. Or do I have the final say now? Now that would be unpopular...

No, I'm actually with you, at least as long as I have the possibility to say he's in close competition with Schumacher and Fangio

€: Bathplug this quote...

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 04 Mar 2010, 01:22

Michael Schumacher is not nearly as good as he is made out to be. At best, he is as good a F1 driver as Sébastien Bourdais was a Champ Car driver and as good as Jimmie Johnson is a NASCAR driver.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 04 Mar 2010, 01:53

watka wrote:Africa needs a Grand Prix somewhere.
Tiago Monteiro deserved another season in F1.

I completely agree.

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 04 Mar 2010, 15:08

I have to say that this thread completely proves that F1 Rejects manages to be not just fun but also an incredibly informative place for F1 fans to hang out.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Mar 2010, 16:25

Cynon wrote:Michael Schumacher is not nearly as good as he is made out to be. At best, he is as good a F1 driver as Sébastien Bourdais was a Champ Car driver and as good as Jimmie Johnson is a NASCAR driver.

Developing this idea further...

Ross Brawn has won 7 World Titles.
Chad Knaus has won 4 Sprint/Nextel Cups.
Michael Schumacher and Jimmie Johnson were just another component of the car.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 04 Mar 2010, 16:29

watka wrote:Africa needs a Grand Prix somewhere.

Yeah, I thought the Kyalami circuit was great.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 04 Mar 2010, 16:38

The old layout was dreadful, it was a delight when it was revamped into a slower layout.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 04 Mar 2010, 16:40

kostas22 wrote:Ross Brawn has won 7 World Titles.

you say taht like schumacher didnt win them?

but seriously though without ross brawn, schumacher is a mere runner up.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Mar 2010, 17:53

ADx_Wales wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Ross Brawn has won 7 World Titles.

you say taht like schumacher didnt win them?

but seriously though without ross brawn, schumacher is a mere runner up.

My point exactly. Did I mention Barrichello gets 20% credit for 5 of those too?

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » 05 Mar 2010, 03:47

Jacques Villeneuve is far better than anyone is willing to give him credit for now. Ferrari is the epitome of a team who feels it should be given wins and championships based on reputation rather than performance

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 05 Mar 2010, 06:13

kostas22 wrote:
Cynon wrote:Michael Schumacher is not nearly as good as he is made out to be. At best, he is as good a F1 driver as Sébastien Bourdais was a Champ Car driver and as good as Jimmie Johnson is a NASCAR driver.

Developing this idea further...

Ross Brawn has won 7 World Titles.
Chad Knaus has won 4 Sprint/Nextel Cups.
Michael Schumacher and Jimmie Johnson were just another component of the car.

Proven by Chad Knaus making the hopeless Stacy Compton (the very MALE Stacy Compton) competitive.

The last time a driver actually won a championship without having the car do more than half the work was Rusty Wallace's NASCAR title in 1989. He would have won the title again in 1993 if Penske didn't give him a ticking time bomb to drive... and if he didn't do two barrel rolls in two different races...

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 07 Mar 2010, 00:10

Nick Heidfeld is miles better than Robert Kubica.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 07 Mar 2010, 03:11

redbulljack14 wrote:Nick Heidfeld is miles better than Robert Kubica.

Isn't that a fact? :mrgreen:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 07 Mar 2010, 03:54

Klon wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:Nick Heidfeld is miles better than Robert Kubica.

Isn't that a fact?

Let me take that one further:
Nick Heidfeld is miles better than Kimi Raikkonen :mrgreen
Edit: Fixed the spelling fail :lol:

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 07 Mar 2010, 09:33

I really hope this thread doesnt break the all-time thread record that we all set recently, we wont have the imagination to see it through.

Let me take that one further:
Nick Hedifeld is miles better than Kimi Raikkonen

I'll see your "one further" and raise you:

HWNSNBM is the Hungarian Nick Hedifeld :mrgreen:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 07 Mar 2010, 12:15

ADx_Wales wrote:HWNSNBM is the Hungarian Nick Hedifeld

This is blasphemy! This is madness!

P_Friesacher · Post by **P_Friesacher** » 07 Mar 2010, 14:04

The Williams FW26 was actually quite beautiful.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 07 Mar 2010, 16:24

Wizzie wrote:
Klon wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:Nick Heidfeld is miles better than Robert Kubica.

Isn't that a fact?

Let me take that one further:
Nick Heidfeld is miles better than Kimi Raikkonen :mrgreen
Edit: Fixed the spelling fail

He's miles better than almost any driver on the grid, apart from Schumi, Alonso and Vettel.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 07 Mar 2010, 21:39

I'm way better than HWNSNBM and his descendency (activates anti-papayas megashell).

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Mar 2010, 09:09

Phoenix wrote:I'm way better than HWNSNBM and his descendency (activates anti-papayas megashell).

That ain't gonna save you now boy. :lol:

If HWNSNBM doesn't get ya his best pal Chuck Norris will :lol:

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 08 Mar 2010, 15:26

Wizzie wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I'm way better than HWNSNBM and his descendency (activates anti-papayas megashell).

That ain't gonna save you now boy.
If HWNSNBM doesn't get ya his best pal Chuck Norris will

I was talking about him, of course.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 08 Mar 2010, 22:18

Phoenix wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I'm way better than HWNSNBM and his descendency (activates anti-papayas megashell).

That ain't gonna save you now boy.
If HWNSNBM doesn't get ya his best pal Chuck Norris will

I was talking about him, of course.

I want a link to part 2 of that story....

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 09 Mar 2010, 15:03

dr-baker wrote:I want a link to part 2 of that story....

http://mismash.blogspot.com/2006/11/hwnsnbmpart-2.html

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 09 Mar 2010, 17:11

kostas22 wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Ross Brawn has won 7 World Titles.

you say taht like schumacher didnt win them?

but seriously though without ross brawn, schumacher is a mere runner up.

My point exactly. Did I mention Barrichello gets 20% credit for 5 of those too?

Umm... Ross Brawn won 8 world titles, and Barrichello gets (well, deserves) a lot more than 20% credit for one of those.

Jordan wrote:Jacques Villeneuve is far better than anyone is willing to give him credit for now. Ferrari is the epitome of a team who feels it should be given wins and championships based on reputation rather than performance

*orgas-- oh, wait, family forum...
*feels tingly*
<_<

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 09 Mar 2010, 18:46

Waris wrote:
Jordan wrote:Jacques Villeneuve is far better than anyone is willing to give him credit for now. Ferrari is the epitome of a team who feels it should be given wins and championships based on reputation rather than performance

*orgas-- oh, wait, family forum...
*feels tingly*
<_<

I'm with Waris on this one. JV was great in his day (yeah, he drove for Williams so I'm partial...), and Fezza does sound a bit too full of itself most of the time. "Legacy" is great, to a point.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 09 Mar 2010, 19:06

Waris wrote:Umm... Ross Brawn won 8 world titles, and Barrichello gets (well, deserves) a lot more than 20% credit for one of those.

He only won 7 as a race engineer. Title number 8 doesn't count for the purposes of above comparison.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 09 Mar 2010, 22:40

Nick Heidfeld is not only the unluckiest driver of the 21st century so far, he's also an interesting character (no sarcasm here, that's my genuine opinion)

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 09 Mar 2010, 22:46

Warren Hughes wrote:Nick Heidfeld is not only the unluckiest driver of the 21st century so far, he's also an interesting character (no sarcasm here, that's my genuine opinion)

He is an interesting character. Have you seen his dancing? It's much better than Massa's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRfCCYIv3EA

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 10 Mar 2010, 04:54

That the teams are always right and the FIA always wrong
That a proposed rule change could actually be a good thing
That Hermann Tilke is not the only person to blame for circuits
That a FOTA breakaway series would have worked
That manufacturers are bad for the sport

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 10 Mar 2010, 10:29

For some reason my opinion of allowing first-year F1 teams to have customer chassis has serious negativity amongst the majority of the forum. :-S

But to get back on track with the theme of pretending, I hate the lot of you :twisted:

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 10 Mar 2010, 11:45

We need more, not less, constructors involved in F1.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 10 Mar 2010, 20:14

CarlosFerreira wrote:We need more, not less, constructors involved in F1.

And more pay-drivers and investors involved with team management, which, at the same time, will generate more and more new teams with their respective pay-drivers. They'll flee in a short space of time, but they'll be replaced by more investors buying out or investing in new projects and having pay-drivers, and so on. Easy cheesy.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 12 Mar 2010, 13:55

Jaime Alguersuari has genuine potential.