Grand Prix Rejects

USF1 announced its intention to enter F1 in December 2008, presumably aware of the FIA's intention to implement cost caps and bring in new teams. I don't think anyone really objects to the concept of cost caps and new teams. Sorry boss, but I do object the cost caps. Of course, cost reductions are ...

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2010/Pages/f1_teams.aspx Pathetic from the FIA, I mean, it's been obvious for ages that USF1 were not going to compete, why couldn't they do something earlier? The thing is, the hastily renamed Campos (now HRT) team also looked pretty di...

Ah, I thought the teams had to develop their own clunker. Man, the level of standardization in terms of the oily bits and other gubbins is strange these days - the most expensive bits of the cars are equal for all, bring no competitive advantage and the viewers get no glimpse. Hmmm... You've also h...

Thought I posted this question earlier: Shouldnt USF1 be given some kind of punishment for bringing the sport into disrepute? I would have thought that being kicked out of the 2010 championship was adequate punishment (since we now know that USF1 is no longer on the official entry list), since they...

From the sounds of things, even USF1 had more resources - Campos was able to find somebody with cash to keep the team going, albeit at the price of being taken over. Yet, you have to wonder how they even managed to make it this far - and even though the team has been saved for now, will they be abl...

To be honest, at best the name makes the team sound like a supplier, not a racing team, and at worst the name conjures up something very different to F1... It also shows that Adrian Campos has been fully kicked out, and that (presumably) Carabante is determined to make his mark on the team as soon a...

As much as I would welcome Hyundai, Kia and Daewoo into F1, I would extend a personal invitation to Ssangyong. If they can do this with a car ... http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/02/2008-SSangyong-Rodius.jpg ... imagine what they could do for F1 design! Argh thats hideous. Apparently their...

Now they are saying they hope to be back in 2011. Then again the article I read made no mention of them wanting to be in F1 in 2011, just 'back'. Back...like they were somewhere to begin with Someone is a bit over optimistic at what is left of USF1 - USF1 being able to field a car in 2011 is about ...

Being one of the biggest fans of Ladas ever since I was a kid in the 1980s (yes, rejectdom is in my blood), this is one of the most epic, brilliant pieces of news EVER . Oh the joys of the Lada Niva and the Lada Samara: http://www.realussr.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/lada-niva1-500x352.jpg http:...

Much as we have mocked USF1, it is a shame in a way that they have collapsed. After all, this was potentially a way to market Formula 1 in the US, at a time when open wheeled competition is struggling (even though the Indy Racing League has finally won out over it's rivals, the fact remains that the...

@mario: You forgot that they added the chicane in Barcelona in 2007, which renders all the comparison with previous times null and void. And you forgot that they cut the "La Caixa" corner in 2004, that mostly compensates for the new chicane Neh, I'm just making strenghtening your point. Y...

A bit of a dumb question considering how advanced this thread is already, but do those fins give any kind of aero advantage? I don't think so, but I'm no technical expert. I'm led to believe they have no advantage in a straight line but they can offer a little more grip around corners. I read somew...

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=358959&FS=F1 How appropriate for the Paul Stodart Memorial forum...however, how badly are these guys really going to do? Is he really saying that Lotus' present car is slower than a 6 year old Minardi, were they to race side by side? Or is he just c...

While I agree with all the love for technical advancement and diverse solutions, I still believe that the main reason we're in this mess in the first place comes from stupid rules. The rules require a larger engine cover for no reason other than to increase the real estate available for (now scarce...

But I thought Stefan already had their equipment in Bahrain? Would they be assembling said car and shipping only the car as everything else is already there? Can they assemble said car *in* Bahrain? In a back alley somewhere? If there is indeed a Stefan-sent box in Bahrain, it probably contains soc...

The reason people blame Tilke is because he's an easy skapegoat for the supposed lack of entertainment in F1; he designed many of the modern tracks that are regularly judged without people even seeing a race there. In fact he has no impact on it whatsoever. His tracks are fine. The problem is the c...

But I thought Stefan already had their equipment in Bahrain? Would they be assembling said car and shipping only the car as everything else is already there? Can they assemble said car *in* Bahrain? In a back alley somewhere? Stefan GP claims to have sent equipment to Bahrein (and also claims to ha...

That's one of the reasons why I like the WTCC, with all the different bodies and engines. Now they want to standardize the engines. Mmmm... If you are having trouble with the engine standardisation of the WTCC, may I humbly suggest you try the BTCC? I think the BTCC is one year ahead of the WTCC in...

I'm really indifferent to it all. Isn't F1 supposed to be about innovation? Agreed - given that the regulations are restrictive, there are complaints that the cars are too similar. However, once Newey comes up with something different, we get the predictable complaints that it is ugly, or that we a...

A little update as of today. Finally, we have seen a fairly direct comparison between Ferrari and Mclaren for race pace, as both Button and Massa have been on track on long runs of comparable length. At the moment, Massa has just pitted after 52 laps (and seemingly did the entire stint on the same s...

Seems all a bit faffy from turns 4-17. Then what, exactly, makes a good circuit? Don't just say Spa or Silverstone, actually tell me what makes for a good circuit. I might as well take the bait and have a go at answering this. After all, whilst there have been (and still are) some excellent tracks ...

I'm really indifferent to it all. Isn't F1 supposed to be about innovation? Agreed - given that the regulations are restrictive, there are complaints that the cars are too similar. However, once Newey comes up with something different, we get the predictable complaints that it is ugly, or that we a...

FIA no longer seem to be setting the F1 rules according to Ferrari's instructions. Which, of course, was the real mistake Max made. If Ferrari have an undue sense of entitlement, it's due to having the head of the governing body spend a decade saying that Ferrari are the most important thing in F1,...

I think the most worrying part is how slow the Renault is, and their pace may indicate that their current car is the same as last years... Not good news, especially since Kubica was expecting Renault to move up the field after bringing several aerodynamic updates to this test session. If anything, ...

So they ban those ugly boxes they had last year, so Ferrari build some new ones... Actually, the status of the wheel covers remains unclear. Yes, the FIA did modify the regulations between 2009 and 2010, restricting where such devices could go. However, as this is actually part of the integral stru...

At the moment, I would suggest that it might well be worth keeping an eye on Liuzzi's lap times, as he is running a full race simulation (so we should start to find out what a typical race pace should be). Webber, meanwhile, has set a fairly quick time, with a 1m22.332 (set during a two lap, low fue...

An excellent post there Carlos. Thanks. kostas22 always says I talk a load of crap (I do!), so it's nice to put in the effort at times. It does indeed look like the plucky Serbian upstarts that we all loved to support are not what we would wish to them to be. I can't help feeling saddened by that. ...

Well, being the son of a famous driver doesn't always guarantee a high profile - Nicolas Prost, for example, is pretty low profile (although since he is now competing in this years Le Mans, I expect that his stock might rise a bit). I would suggest that Nico Rosberg might come into this class, alth...

This is a surprisingly aggressive article, and it does seem to have had the same reaction as whacking a hornet's nest with a stick. As to what end they intend to achieve, that is another matter, as the motives seem a bit unclear. For a start, although there are many who might want Stefan GP to race,...

Well, being the son of a famous driver doesn't always guarantee a high profile - Nicolas Prost, for example, is pretty low profile (although since he is now competing in this years Le Mans, I expect that his stock might rise a bit). I would suggest that Nico Rosberg might come into this class, altho...

Old "news". This one has been around since the Japanese Grnd Prix when it became apaprent Raikkonen wouldn't move to McLaren. It was started by Raikkonen fanboys who wanted to see Raikkonen in the sport and in a competitive car. True - some desperate fans of Kimi saw that Red Bull sponsor...

Three rejects don't make a right... All that three reject teams would create would be one almightly disaster waiting to happen. Realistically, out of the three teams, Campos is probably in the best position (or, as is probably better to say, the least weak position), since they have a car, entry ri...

As for what they have actually sent out to Bahrein, god only knows whether it actually contains anything for the TF110/SGP-01, or just scrap parts which they sent out to Bahrein in the hope of trying to force the hand of the FIA to give them an entry by making it look as if they are capable of raci...

Today, there were a few announcements about the line ups for Le Mans 2010, and there are quite a few interesting entries - and a few reject drivers lined up as well. Today, the announcement came through that Peugeot are intending to use the same line up as last year for car No. 3, which was Bourdais...

Am I the only one who thinks there is no StefanGP, and there would be no test anyway? All they have is a car clad in last year's Toyota stickers! That is an interesting thought. So, what have they sent to Bahrein? Rocks? Cement? A treasured shipment of Sefan's old socks? The car they'll sell to eit...

I thought their target was to beat the Virgin... wait... Bathplug Given how many problems the Virgin Racing team have had with the VR-01, when the Lotus T127 has been fairly reliable, I would say that they could well beat Virgin Racing, because of their greater reliability (their pace yesterday on ...

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-news/228656/fia-developing-solutions-with-us-f1/ Four options. I doubt they'll survive the penalties. With these four options being: ...a number of options remain, including: - obtaining a finished car, such as that built by Dallara for cash-strapped Campos - mer...

I thought their target was to beat the Virgin... wait... Bathplug Given how many problems the Virgin Racing team have had with the VR-01, when the Lotus T127 has been fairly reliable, I would say that they could well beat Virgin Racing, because of their greater reliability (their pace yesterday on ...

For a start, Cosworth is refusing to release any engines for USF1 because USF1 have failed to pay for them Where did you read this? Cosworth said some time ago, that everyone was paid up and the engines were being shipped out. It's in this particular article from SpeedTV. Looking back at the articl...

The baggy old 1997 F1 world champion is understood to have agreed terms to promote another painful grunge/folk crossover album sung in French if the Serbian squad doesn't sign him, even though they still don't have an entry, a technical director, a windtunnel, sponsors, or most importantly a good e...

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