Grand Prix Rejects

Irisado

my ROTR-nominee is: Everybody saying that Räikkönen is crap and should leave Formula one (in the various forms of the statement) Why? Because this so called "Demotivated" and "over the hill" "crap" driver took a podium on a car that had its development freezed two race...

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I took chance on this. Wow, I didn't think anyone would actually sit down and work it out. I'm impressed. Well: six drivers posted a car-breaking time during Valencia race. Rosberg on lap 14 Buemi on lap 16 Nakajima on lap 17 Fisichella on lap 21 Räikkönen on lap 42 Glock on lap 44 Now that's a sen...

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Oh yes, he was dreadful when being lapped. I recall the 1995 San Marino GP where he got in the way of several leaders. Don't forget the 1996 Monaco GP where he took out Jacques Villeneuve at Mirebeau in a shocking piece of driving. Both Martini and Badoer were equally bad at the 1995 San Marino Gra...

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I think Osella still exist in some shape or form as well, so perhaps they should get together with Fondmetal again and bring back some good old 1980s/early 90s nostalgia.

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Bleu wrote:Italian F1 Reject overtakes another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP4h0CsNXec

Zanardi's 1999 performances for Williams really were shockingly bad most of the time weren't they? I had forgotten that Badoer overtook him in that race, thanks for making a Minardi and Badoer fan very happy

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A few I'm surprised you haven't mentioned yet: Gastón Mazzacane Tarso Marques Domenico Schiattarella (also known as: "I'm not even going to try and pronounce this guy's name", after Alan Jones) By the way, does someone remember that HWNSNBM drove for two F1 teams? Baumgartner drove for bo...

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I think Badoer will do a better job at Spa too. He should make it into Q2 there in my opinion, but he will probably still be a midfield runner, but I think he will be more on the pace than he was in Valencia. Should they have given Gené the drive? For this race, maybe, but it would have been for com...

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I don't think Badoer should get the reject of the race award (see my comments in other threads for my reasons). I would award it to both the Valencia track, which is truly awful in my opinion (again see my comments in the Valencia race thread for more details), and Jonathan Legard, for trying to con...

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Worst case scenario for me would be him getting rammed from behind on the first corner by newcomer Grosjean Which is exactly what happened, only not at the first corner. As I said in the Valencia race thread, I think he was better in the race, and could have finished higher up had it not been for t...

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I think Luca Badoer does deserve a second chance. His race pace was more impressive, and he not been bundled into a spin by Grosjean after his good start, he could have finished a bit higher up, so I think it's worth giving him a run at a track he knows (i.e. Spa), in order to see how he goes there....

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Is Ivan Capelli a reject? I recall a wonderful race where he drove his March without changing tires for a whole race and led for a while, finally finishing second behind Prost. A fabulous drive in a non-turbo car against formidable opposition. I guess the points for second rules him out as a reject...

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Well, if Ferrari fans are angry about that, I wonder what they made of Schecker's failure to qualify in 1980? Badoer's performance was disappointing, and I'm a fan of his, so I don't like having to say that, although his performance was made to look worse than it was by that big mistake in the last ...

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Valencia is a prime example, in my opinion, of why all this tarmac doesn't work. If there were gravel in some of those huge run off areas, drivers would actually be punished if they made errors, whereas at the moment, they can just get out of jail free, which isn't right in my view. Obviously, at Va...

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Out of all the drivers who qualify for reject status, there are some who, in spite of their lack of success, have had their day or days in the sun, so which F1 rejects have had one or more good races, yet gone unrewarded, in your opinion. I'll start with the obvious by picking Luca Badoer, since he ...

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Patrese stepped in for Mansell, Modena made his debut with Brabham. Yes, you're quite right, well spotted. I was getting my Italians mixed up there. He did still give up in the race though. You don't need to mention Moreno. He was such a gifted driver that you could expect miracles from the Brazili...

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One thing I've learnt from watching today's practice sessions (the first time ever for me) - they're BORING! They can be, but sometimes a few dramatic things happen, such as Kubica's big engine failure at Monaco, and, there are actually more mechanical failures in practice than in the races, so it ...

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kostas22 wrote:What is the criteria for a Reject anyway? Always wondered that...

If you take a look at the F1 rejects website, then the answer will be revealed to you

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Irisado

Well, Luca Badoer was quicker this afternoon, so he's moving in the right direction. Ferrari are treating this race as a test session for him, so let's just see how he gets on tomorrow and the race. His main problem is apparently set-up, as he's not particularly happy with the balance and handling o...

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I watched practice this morning, and I wouldn't say Luca looked that comfortable in the Ferrari, so I don't think he's got it working as he would like yet. The technical issue with the brakes also helps to explain the difference in my view, as there is no way that he is that much slower than Raikkon...

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I'm really pleased to read that piece of news, since having no certainty of continuing after Valencia would have generated a lot of unnecessary pressure. Also, Valencia is going to be tougher for him than say Spa or Monza in my opinion, because he hasn't driven there before, and in spite of its blan...

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What about Stefano Modena? He seemed decent, but kinda dissapeared. Was the only guy who could qualify a EuroBrun... He also managed to 'give up' due to heat exhaustion in his first race as a stand in for Mansell at Williams in 1987. He wasn't the only driver to qualify a EuroBrun though. His team ...

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I will actually watch practice tomorrow for a change just to see how Badoer gets on. Valencia hardly set the world on fire as a venue last year, so this year could hardly be worse, surely..... I suspect that Red Bull will still be the team to beat, but McLaren and Ferrari will probably continue to s...

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I'm pleased to see the back of refuelling. I've never felt that it adds much to the show, and I hope it makes for more interesting racing as a result of tyre management by the drivers (i.e. who can look after them well, and who cannot), and it should also make car set-up more of challenge, since it ...

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Pacific and Forti were actually good compared to some of the teams from the pre-qualifying era of the early 1990s. If you really want to fulfil your criteria, you would need to start talking about Life and Andrea Moda....speaking of which, did we decide on whether Enrico Bertaggia was forgettable or...

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As for Friesacher, did he do ANYTHING of note? Drove the Minardi pretty quickly at Monaco until he crashed very heavily at the Sea Front/Harbour Front chicane. Apart from that, not a lot, but being one of the six to start that infamous US race means he is hard to forget, and he did score points for...

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Will he go past Q1? Yes, providing it's a 'normal' session. Will he go past Q2? Tricky, but I reckon he will make it, simply because I think the Ferrari will suit Valencia reasonably well. What strategy should he employ if he's on the top-10 after Qualy? Ferrari normally fuel quite heavily, so I se...

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I don't like these tarmac run off areas. I understand the safety implications, but the number of gravel traps that they have replaced at some circuits just beggars belief, especially at these new tracks, where the run off areas are so enormous that there is no danger of hitting anything, so gravel t...

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It was a ridiculous ban in my view in the first place, because I can guarantee you that if Massa had not been hit by the torsion bar from Barrichello's Brawn, Renault would not have been banned. There is no evidence that I have read yet which conclusively proves that they knowingly released Alonso w...

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It's "spelled", btw... spelt = British English spelled = American English. The rights and wrongs of this, therefore depend entirely on which form of English an individual is using . I think we can agree though that whichever form of pronunciation the commentator was using though, it wasn'...

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You can't rightly blame Raikkonen's poor showing this season entirely on him and him alone. I'm not just talking about 2009 though, I'm talking about 2008 as well. Ferrari had a much better car last year, and Raikkonen was still poor in my opinion. It's not that he's had a shockingly bad season thi...

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2. That's arguable... I mean points-wise the BAR was worse than both of them. A little poetic license in talking up the achievement of putting that crapola Minardi into 4th place is perfectly acceptable I think!! I agree it's contestable, and I did like your poetic license . I actually do think BAR...

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That's the first podcast of yours I've ever listened to (I know, shame on me), and it was fantastic. Very well put together guys, and very witty. I'm definitely in the 'for' camp though. I think you chose some very apt commentary clips too, and I think Martin Brundle could very well end up having to...

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Sorry, but I think it's utter bullsh*t. Everybody's looking for a reason for Kimi to be let go, but you could do that for just about any driver this year save fo maybe Button, Webber and Vettel. I'll gladly admit to the fact that I will dance around my room and cheer when I hear that Raikkonen is l...

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The big question would be though is would Massa be consistently quick enough to concern Alonso? I know he's beaten Raikkonen, but I don't think Raikkonen is anywhere near as good as Alonso, so would Fernando really be worried about having Massa as his team mate? I don't have an answer to the questio...

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That's essentialy correct, but there's an added twist: "show them what you are made of" would literally translate "fa' loro vedere chi sei". However in colloquial Italian, the "loro" (3rd person plural) is usually substituted with "gli" (3rd person singular)....

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I wish people would stop and think for once. Ferrari deny the Alonso connection. Alonso denies a Ferrari connection. Massa and Raikkonen deny they're going anywhere. Every time Kimi has a dud result, it's usually a result of a balls-up by the team - sending him out on extreme wets in Malaysia, hold...

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Ah OK. As for this second option you mention, I'll refrain from translating the first part (family-friendly website, see), but the second part is probably something like "Show her who you are!" I think the second part is more likely to be 'let him or them see who you are', as fare [insert...

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Another unsurprising development. I agree that Flavio Briatore isn't exactly Mr Supportive (there are too many drivers who have been on the receiving end of Briatore's management style for that not to be true), however, Piquet has hardly helped himself with his overly negative attitudes, self-inflat...

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I'm not at all surprised that BMW pulled out. They were supposed to win the World Championship this year after all, according to their grand master plan. As others stated earlier on, this is what happens when manufacturers take over a sport, they push the costs up so far that they price the independ...

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So, I've been busy writing my dissertation and away on holiday, and I come back to find that not much has really been happening...... Anyway, I am delighted for Luca Badoer, and I promise all of you, I will do something outrageous if he wins. I rarely follow the front of the grid, and I rarely get e...

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