Grand Prix Rejects

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Alpine: not for the drivers or the cars but for their treatment of the management team - that is not how you move up the grid. The Sky kids commentator team: a bunch of precocious children coached to behave and speak like adults whilst the graphics were straight out of a 1990s console game - yeugh! ...

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Tsunoda was the only really improbable driver outcome for me.

A race at Spa without an actual or virtual safety car was equally unexpected.

HMs for Norris for outperforming his setup and Russell for his tyre management.

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Thoroughly enjoyed sprint qualy and the sprint itself. For once things went well with good decisions all round despite the variable and unpredictable conditions. The tyre changing was very well choreographed and well behaved. Penalty for Hamilton was a bit harsh, especially as Perez was having tyre ...

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Wallio wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023, 19:21
IceG wrote: ↑28 Jul 2023, 17:45 Ocon to Williams and Gasly to Aston Martin?
Ocon could do worse than a Williams seat. But Alonso has another year on his deal, does he not?

Gasly looks a lot more competitive and consistent than Stroll Jnr....

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This shake-up at Alpine is seismic. Szafnauer, Permane and Fry all out on the tail of Rossi. Stroll over at Aston Martin seems to understand that building a championship winning team takes time, patience and lots of money. Renault seem to have forgotten that. I wonder if this all started after the A...

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It is not just F1. Last year Monza was on the same weekend as a five-day motorcycle rally by Lake Como - hotel prices went through the roof so I blamed F1. This year they are on different weekends but the hotel prices for the motorcycle rally are just as exhorbitant. How about €600 for Saturday nigh...

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2023 "Longest Belgian F1 race in two years" Grand Prix S1: Verstappen S2: Norris S3: Piastri S4: Leclerc S5: Perez S6: Sainz S7: Russell S8: Hamilton 1: Verstappen 2: Norris 3: Leclerc 4: Piastri 5: Perez 6: Hamilton 7: Russell 8: Albon 9: Alonso 10: Ricciardo PP: Norris FL: Verstappen Fir...

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IIDoTR team: no-one

IIDoTR driver: no-one

IIDoTR anything else: nothing

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ROTR team: Ferrari - the ship-to-shore radio tells you everything about how not to run a team, plus a slow stop and a time penalty

ROTR driver: Zhou - for forgetting to start and then forgetting to stop

ROTR anything else: that double DRS zone is not right

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The 2023 Hungarian "Please ignore our support for the Russian genocide in Ukraine" F1 Grand Prix 1. Verstappen 2. Hamilton 3. Norris 4. Alonso 5. Leclerc 6. Russell 7. Sainz 8. Piastri 9. Albon 10. Ricciardo PP: Verstappen FL: Verstappen First Retirement: Zhou ROTR: Perez IIDOTR: Ricciardo...

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The 2023 British "Just Stop Pitt" F1 Grand Prix 1. Verstappen 2. Sainz 3. Perez 4. Alonso 5. Russell 6. Albon (helped by a safety car) 7. Leclerc 8. Hamilton 9. Norris 10. Piastri PP: Verstappen FL: Verstappen First Retirement: Bottas ROTR: Haas IIDOTR: Williams (6th and 11th) DBTMOTR: Str...

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ROTR Driver - Hamilton for an all round poor weekend and for whining

ROTR Team - Haas for 19th and 20th

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IIDOTR Driver - Norris for excellent stuff

IIDOTR Team - Ferrari for not blowing it

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2023 Austrian F1 "Ohne streckenbegrenzungen" Grand Prix S1: Verstappen S2: Alonso S3: Perez S4: Sainz S5: Hamilton S6: Gasly S7: Russell S8: Norris 1. Verstappen 2. Alonso 3. Hamilton 4. Perez 5. Russell 6. Leclerc 7. Sainz 8. Norris 9. Gasly 10. Albon PP: Verstappen FL: Verstappen First R...

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Thanks for a very inciteful and informative reply @mario

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The Red Bull approach seems counter-productive. The Mercedes and Ferrari teams have a history of well-matched drivers who could both get great results from the car. Yes there is still a team hierarchy but Irvine, Rosberg and Bottas were still fabulous in their day. Red Bull manufacture a car for one...

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Albon - that's it.

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Team - Haas for being, well, useless.

Driver - is it Russell for the unforced error, De Vries for THAT overtake, or Stroll for sitting in daddy's car and going "vroom"? I'll go with Russell because the other two were not unusual.

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The 2023 Canadian "Emery paper - can be used wet and dry" F1 Grand Prix 1. "Very lovely" 2. "Keep pushing back at the factory" 3. "My visor is sweaty" 4. "Tell Lance that his overtake at Turn 8 was great" 5. "Why was I on this strategy Christian...

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Nothing stood out.

The race was better than I expected but that is more of an indictment of F1 as it currently is.

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(1) Leclerc - just nowhere throughout the race any tyre grade and barely able to overtake the F1.5 cars.

That's it for me.

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2023 Spanish F1 Grand Prix

1. Verstappen
2. Alonso
3. Perez
4. Hamilton
5. Sainz
6. Leclerc
7. Russell
8. Gasly
9. Ocon
10. Norris

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
1st Retirement: De Vries
ROTR: Haas
IIDOTR: Nothing and/or no-one
DBTMOTR: Stroll
LP: Sargeant
MLP: Piastri

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From the RotR thread: Stroll: At what point do we start asking questions?. 27 points and not a single podium in what’s arguably been the 2nd quickest car up to now just isn’t good enough. A nice lad but if Aston Martin are going to fulfill their ambitions of fighting for the championship then the ow...

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(1) Ocon

(2) Yes, I like piña coladas and getting caught in the rain

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(1) Stroll - all over the place

(2) Haas - very poor all round

HM Perez for being a guinea pig after binning it in qualy

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2023 Monaco F1 Grand Prix and safety car train 1. Verstappen 2. Leclerc 3. Alonso 4. Hamilton 5. Perez 6. Sainz 7. Russell 8. Norris 9. Gasly 10. Bottas PP: Leclerc FL: Verstappen First Retirement: Stroll ROTR: All the rookies crashing out causing innumerable red flags, SCs and VSCs IIDOTR: Ferrari ...

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KMag for the driver.

Alpine for the team.

But a race with 0 DNFs, 0 yellow flags, 0 red flags, and 0 safety cars at a street circuit in the USA - most improbable.

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Well on results it has to be Mclaren for the team prize.

HM for Leclerc all weekend and Stroll on the day.

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2023 My Am I fed up with the Americanisation of F1 Grand Prix 1) Verstappen 2) Leclerc 3) Perez 4) Alonso 5) Hamilton 6) Sainz 7) Russell 8) Norris 9) Stroll 10) Gasly Pole: Verstappen Fastest Lap: Perez First Retirement: Bottas ROTR: Alfa Romeo IIDOTR: Hulkenberg holding 5th place for most of the r...

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Leclerc I guess for getting a podium given Ferrari's shenanigans so far this year but really nothing stood out so no award.

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Just when I thought that Race Control could have a clean weekend, that last lap and Ocon looking to play photographer-skittles in the pit lane - just awful. Now lets see them try and penalise Red Bull for the mechanics on the fence celebrations. Driver: Nyck de Vries - just poor and under-performing...

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S1: Sergio Perez S2: Charles Leclerc S3: Max Verstappen S4: Fernando Alonso S5: George Russell S6: Carlos Sainz 1. Max Verstappen 2. Sergio Perez 3. Charles Leclerc 4. Fernando Alonso 5. Lewis Hamilton 6. Carlos Sainz 7. George Russell 8. Lando Norris 9. Alex Albon 10. Nico Hulkenberg PP: Max Versta...

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(1) Race control for sure. So many options for red flag/safety car/VSC but somehow when it is near the end of a race the rules seem to make each decision and the following outcome worse. The teams are going to be demanding a rewrite surely? (2) Teams with names starting with Alf/Alph - never looked ...

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(1) Alpine - really great race, especially Gasly staying with the Ferrari. Would have been a good double points finish. Shame about the restart

(2) Hulkenberg - not just a lazy choice then?

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2023 Race for cars that are "running around like a blue-arsed fly" Australian Grand Prix 1. Verstappen 2. Perez 3. Alonso 4. Russell 5. Hamilton 6. Leclerc 7. Sainz 8. Stroll 9. Gasly 10. Piastri Pole: Verstappen Fastest lap: Perez First retirement: Sergeant ROTR: Alfa Romeo IIDOTR: Piastr...

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went wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023, 22:55Race control / the stewards.

+1

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Enforcer wrote: ↑19 Mar 2023, 19:36 No award of IIDOTR pls.

+1

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2023 Sportswashing a corrupt dictatorship is what F1 stands for Grand Prix 1. Verstappen 2. Perez 3. Alonso 4. Sainz 5. Stroll 6. Russell 7. Hamilton 8. Gasly 9. Albon 10. Ocon PP: Verstappen FL: Alonso First Retirement: It is he - Leclerc (last seen on his knees outside the Aston Martin hospitality...

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1 Williams - good team performance

2 Gasly - good solo work

3 Alonso - good team choice

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1 Ocon for comedic value

2 McLaren for tragic value

3 Ferrari reliability losing a barge board in qualy and an engine in the race - same old, same old

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