Grand Prix Rejects

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I think the bigger question is would Senna have been able to pass both Prost and Mansell? IIRC Mansell was pulling away from Prost when he crashed. Would Bellof have passed all 3 of them? (Even though he'd later have the win taken off him). Senna's suspension was apparently within a few laps of col...

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I always forget that Nelson Piquet drove for Ensign & a non works McLaren in 1978.

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John Watson - McLaren - 1985

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Mika Salo - Lotus - 1994

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I remember it staggering quite a few people in F1 at the time as well. IIRC in Autosport magazine the week after the Diniz crash they were asking lots of questions as to how the roll hoop could have failed so badly. However I don't think any action was taken against Sauber for the failure.

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Considering F1 cars ran that way in '80s fine, and Indycars ran that way forever, ditto F3000, I think they were ok..... I take your, very well made point Wallio. But I know which airbox design I would prefer to have if I was about to land upside down into a sand/gravel trap. Particularly as one of...

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Considering F1 cars ran that way in '80s fine, and Indycars ran that way forever, ditto F3000, I think they were ok..... I take your, very well made point Wallio. But I know which airbox design I would prefer to have if I was about to land upside down into a sand/gravel trap. Particularly as one of...

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Tyrrell did something similar midway through the 1994 season, presumably sticking more to what the rules intended as opposed to finding some more ingenious way round it. The resultant engine cover looked more like it came off an early 90s Formula 3000 car. I found a picture or two, and here's the C...

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I think that they only used that configuration for one or two races before the FIA made them change it by changing the scruitineering requirements. They used that configuration at Canada 1994 where both Ferrari's where extremely strong in quali trim with Alesi even being on pole on after Friday. Mi...

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Then suddenly he decided to change his behaviour and won in 2006. IIRC the Renualt team accidentally put too much fuel in Alonso car for quali. Which then comprised his race. Otherwise I think 'Nando might have beaten Fisco as he usually did when they were teammates. Sato had some truly reject mome...

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30 minutes before the 1999 Oz GP and when Mika Hakkinen left his pit garage he accidental ran over a wire which then brought down the McLaren pit roof. I'm sure someone who is smarter than me can find a utube video of this incident to post here (I'm at work so can't look for this myself). On a simil...

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Me too. After watching a bunch of late-90s/early-2000s seasons reviews as bedtime background noise, I cannot for the life of me figure out why he stayed in F1 so long. He's a bathplugging idiot. By sheer coincidence, us in the chat came across a part of the answer to that question today. It turns o...

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1975 British GP; a late race downpour meant loads of cars aquaplanning and crashing out at Corpse corner. Just like at Nurburgring 2007 & Interlagos 2003. Whilst on the subject of the 2003 Brazilian GP surely that must count as a pretty rejectfully moment in F1 history when the organisers can't ...

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Patrese trying to spin turn the car on a really wide track at Brazil 1982 was pretty funny. (Yes I know heat fatigue got the better of him at that moment). I can also remember Nakajima Snr also doing a similarly poor spin turn and hitting the barrier at Hungary 1990. And Andrea de Cesaris causing al...

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The ostrich festival was for either 5 or 7 days I forget, while the GP was of course only 3, but the festival's total blew away the races. I'd say it is true, since they mention it on the F1 review for the race...... I can't believe all those people choose to see ostriches over the likes of a Life ...

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I think in the 1986 Portuguese GP Murray Walker said something like...

"Now we look at the Minardi Moderni, whose engine is not very Moderni." Made me giggle.

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Dallas 1984. Not just the track breaking up. But the way most of the drivers crashed and parked up at the same spot.

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Brundle on HRT's debut IIRC at Oz 2012 "What a waste of petrol".

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In 1995 Brundle said something like "I know why they call them Forti. Because in the race you seem to be lapping them so often, its seems there are about forty of them".

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I suppose on a grand scale, the Michelin tyre farce was probably the most far reaching scandal that F1's seen. I think the only comparable race would the 1982 San Marino Grand Prix, but still, that had 14 cars and the teams not competing didn't actually turn up for the race. On the other hand, perh...

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If I was Paul Stoddart, I'd be nipping out with the Box Browning right now to take a photo of the timing screens, because Alonso is in third position, ahead of his team-mate Tarso Marques." I gather this was during a free practice session. I was only able to watch qualifying and races back in ...

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In essence, the car was made in the knowledge that it would almost certainly be protested and Tyrrell promptly protested in order to get Gilles disqualified to bump Alboreto up a place (Tyrrell had also, I believe, protested Williams and Brabham in the Brazilian GP over the "water cooled brake...

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I'm sure I read this somewhere in an old F1 season review book, but was there a practice/qualifying session at Interlagos once where the stewards forbade the drivers from crossing the pit entrance whilst on track, despite the fact that that line was the natural racing line, and almost ended up with...

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Watched that race on Dailymotion a few days ago and Martin Brundle's "Oh No!" when smoke belched from the car entering Hangar Straight said it all. Yeah I remember that as well. Such a shame as IIRC he was in 4th & catching Montoya. Another one I've just remembered is Panis retiring a...

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Frentzen in the Arrows retiring from the 2002 British GP when he was running strongly in the points. Wasn't long after that the team folded.

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Jean Alesi in Belgium 1991, Belgium 1994, Italy 1994, Italy 1995, Europe 1995, Japan 1995, Monaco 1996 and Italy 1997 etc. There were certainly quite a few for Alesi. Spa 1995, Monaco, UK & Austria 1998, France 1999, Monaco & Spa 2000 to name a few more. Hakkinen at UK and Luxembourg 1997. ...

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AustralianStig wrote:Only one driver has more wins than Max Chilton since the summer break!

Or to put it another way. since the summer break Max has won as many races as Alonso, Rosberg, Button, Webber, Kimi and Massa combined!

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While that's all true, it just annoys me at how everyone says Senna was robbed, when Bellof was reeling him in by SECNDS per lap. If anyone had a beef........ Not only that but Bellof had pulled off the passing move of the year on Arnoux here... m (see from 1:05:35 onwards). What I also love about ...

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I still have a VHS player which is used solely to watch F1 season reviews from 1981 to 2002. Same here. As well as many old F1 races which I don't have the time to convert to DVD. Funny thing is despite having a HD TV, dolby surround sound & blueray player etc. I watch my old VHS's much more th...

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Alain Prost was right to be calling off the Monegasque GP in 1984. Not sure how unpopular this might be, but I know a lot of people who hark for the sentimental victory for a then rookie Bellof in his plucky Tyrell. Fixed. +1 I think Senna is a hypocrite for wanting to carry on at Monaco 1984. But ...

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CoopsII wrote:

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Just had a few further thoughts in regards to Piquet Snr… 1982 Brazil – his car was DSQ after it was found to be underweight. So maybe it wasn't that great a drive by him after all? One thing to say about Piquet is that he did have a car that decided to blow up every minute in 1982, so he easily cou...

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Haven't really got time to do a full response since posting from work...& I can't help but think about F1 instead of my job First of all is the obvious one- its all very well having the best machinery but you have to have the ability to make your advantage count. Whilst that is true. You have to...

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Regarding Nelson Piquet Snr. He does strike me as someone who is not able to extract the 'special' qualities associated with a 3 times WDC, day in day out regardless of the team / his teammate situation or even machinery he has underneath him. I would welcome being proved wrong on this front, but th...

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http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7715/221984lauda014pwbu9.jpg "Hello Ladies!" Or "Now that i'm a Hollywood Movie, my PR agents says i should get caught with my pants down. It worked for Hugh Grant." http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/5787/1991cesaris8hd.jpg Andrea; "Can't b...

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On the 1998 VHS they claim that Sauber and Jordan also had rudimentary forms of this braking system. Have never really heard much more about this but clearly they didn't do them much good over those opening two races! IIRC on ITV's intro for the 1998 Brazilian GP, I think Tony Jardine said somethin...

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1997 Luxembourgish Grand Prix Mario Illien. Two Ilmor built blow-ups right in front of the pitwall, costing McLaren an otherwise certain race victory. On Häkkinen's birthday, too. Not only that. But an unintended consequence of this double retirement was that F1 photographer Darren Heath was able t...

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Australia 2010 was pretty decent.

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The FIA must have felt like tools after the 2003 Brazilian GP. Remember that regulation aimed at cutting costs, where teams were only allowed to bring one wet-weather tyre compound to the race. IIRC they had to delay the start of that race because the tyres the Bridgestone teams brought were deemed ...

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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:What did 2002 have? Apart from The Australian Grand Prix and Irvine's podium in a Jaguar at Monza not a lot.

Bernoldi in the Arrows put up a good fight against M Schumi in a Ferrari at Malaysia 2002.

Then there was this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWq8zH5GjA0

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