Grand Prix Rejects

I have to say that I'm a little surprised that there does not seem to have been any comments about Bernie pleading guilty in his latest fraud trial and agreeing to pay £653 million in compensation to HMRC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67088503 I guess that it is a reflection of how Bernie's influen...

Terrible race for Perez, Stroll and Sargeant. Perez has still not settled into "take second and enjoy it" mode, making many mistakes and being in the wrong place all the time. Surely his time at Red Bull is limited to a maximum of one more season. Stroll was terrible all weekend. With his...

I am going to throw one thing out here that has now emerged after the race, which is deciding to hold a race at this time of year and in very high temperatures. It turns out that the reason that Logan Sargeant withdrew from the race was because he was so dehydrated that he had to be taken to the med...

On another note, it seems that there is a new rumour going round that appears to have been started by a reporter for Radio Le Mans, and it is a claim that Audi are now looking at shutting down their Formula 1 programme at the end of this year. If that is the case, then suddenly things aren't looking...

S1: Verstappen S2: Norris S3: Leclerc S4: Piastri S5: Perez S6: Sainz S7: Hamilton S8: Russell 1: Verstapen 2: Norris 3: Piastri 4: Perez 5: Leclerc 6: Sainz 7: Hamilton 8: Russell 9: Alonso 10: Lawson Pole: Verstappen Fastest Lap: Verstappen First Retirement: Bottas ROTR: Alfa Romeo IIDOTR: Lawson ...

significant element of Sulayem showboating We probably got a little spoiled by the several years of a relatively quiet Jean Todt. That's not to say anything good or bad about what he accomplished, just that he wasn't noisy in the way of Sulayem or Max or Balestre. I don't know - even compared to Mo...

As an aside, is it just me, or does it come across as a bit of muscle flexing by the FIA, or rather by Sulayem Yes, the whole process reeks of a chess game by both sides with Andretti used as a pawn, especially by the FIA side (Sulayem). Even so, I would prefer for a new team to come in and liven t...

What is the point of another team? To improve the show? To increase the revenue for F1? To give long term stability of a team goes under? Allowing teams to run a third race car, but then making the team select which two cars will count for the WDC and/or WCC before the race start, might be a soluti...

Thanks gents! So in the last 10-20 years, the price for a functioning team (minus Honda's nominal price) has gone from about $100± million to approaching $1 billion. That is pretty astonishing. I'll bet that the 2010 new teams' owners wish they'd held on. Now those entries would be worth hundreds o...

We have talked about this here and there in the past. I honestly don't see how any racing organization could ever possibly afford the costs to join at this point. The main incentive of the fee is to screen out privateer entrants - a major automotive manufacturer could afford that sort of fee, but t...

Yeah, it's not looking good. I finally got around to reading Mark Hughes' analysis of it in September's Motor Sport and it was helpful in highlighting the difference in the alignment of interests between the FIA on one side and Liberty/the teams on the other. He hinted at the possibility of a team ...

In other news: The FIA has rejected bids from all but Andretti Global with regards to potential new teams. The entrants that have been turned down were apparently LKY SUNZ, Rodin Carlin and Hitech, and I'm not really surprised that they were all turned down. There were suggestions that the LKY SUNZ...

Reject of the Race poll is up for Singapore! You have 48 hours to get voting :dance: Perhaps, in retrospect, the poll should have included the stewards - it turns out that Matteo Perini, who was one of the stewards in Singapore and also served as a steward in Japan, told the team bosses that the st...

In other news: The FIA has rejected bids from all but Andretti Global with regards to potential new teams. The entrants that have been turned down were apparently LKY SUNZ, Rodin Carlin and Hitech, and I'm not really surprised that they were all turned down. There were suggestions that the LKY SUNZ...

Just had something pop up about Sainz, as it seems he is throwing his team under the bus a bit. In some of the post-race interviews, he's quoted as saying "they pitted with Charles to secure the position, and I was somewhat sacrificed". However, somebody has found the radio transmissions b...

Sergio Perez. While Verstappen drove to another flawless victory, Perez had a nightmare weekend. -Qualified seven tenths and four places behind Max -Got caught up in a start collision -Overtook cars behind the safety car -Only a few laps into his recovery drive hit Magnussen -Damaged his car furthe...

It’s gotta be Perez I’m afraid, he’s had a good 3 years of boosting up his win and podium stats but it’s time to get someone else, Merc, Ferrari and McLaren will all get stronger and I can’t see him making the end of 2024 if if that’s the case Sargeant: His form has now got to the point where I’ve ...

More announcements this weekend, but this one might slightly disappoint some - Alpha Tauri will be sticking with a Ricciardo-Tsunoda line up, with Lawson being demoted back to reserve status. Considering his performances, you would have thought that the team might be looking at Lawson, but evidently...

Not sure if it should go here or into another thread, but it's now been confirmed that Piastri will be extending his contract with McLaren until 2026.

I’ll give Alonso a pass after finding out that he suffered a cracked suspension in the early stages of the race, it can’t have been easy to control at a place like Singapore. I’m amazed he still finished the race tbh. The reports I've seen have said that the suspension itself was fine, it was just ...

The "normal service has resumed" GP

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Leclerc
4. Perez
5. Hamilton
6. Sainz
7. Russell
8. Piastri
9. Lawson
10. Gasly

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Zhou
ROTR: Aston Martin
IIDOTR: Lawson
DBTMOTR: Tsunoda
LP: Sargeant
FtP: Bottas

Have to acknowledge Sainz & Norris for co-operating better than most team-mates do and holding off Merc, even though it goes against my general views on IIDOTR. Lawson and Gasly are other options. Since I imagine that Norris and Sainz will be getting a lot of nominations, I would agree with hav...

I'm going for Alonso - by far his poorest weekend in an Aston Martin on a circuit I fancied him to go well. Also his failure to score means only 2 have an unbroken points streak this year (Verstappen and Hamilton). Russell was just going all out for a win on a rare Red Bull off day, and Red Bull th...

Well, a lot of people have been saying for much of the season what a great year we'd be having if only Red Bull weren't there. Let’s hope tomorrow now lives up to that! (Albeit you still wouldn't bet against Max coming through to win… would you…?) That said, it does feel as if Tsunoda was getting p...

1. Verstappen
2. Norris
3. Alonso
4. Leclerc
5. Perez
6. Hamilton
7. Sainz
8. Russell
9. Ocon
10. Stroll

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Zhou
ROTR: Alpha Tauri
IIDOTR: Norris
DBTMOTR: Piastri
LP: Sargeant
FtP: Hulkenberg

Londoner wrote: ↑03 Sep 2023, 14:39 1. Carlos Sainz Jr. An unexpected pole and a hard-earned podium, can't really ask more from the weekend.

Just wondering though - would some of those moves have been considered differently if it wasn't an intra-team battle between the Ferrari's at Monza?

Five second time penalties - penalising drivers, especially world champions, is terrible for franchise value. Best to give penalties that have no consequences and can easily be nullified. Whilst I have seen quite a few posters complain about this, it seems the complaints are mostly targeted towards...

Broken floor. He’s still plenty fast I think that maybe the question is asking about other areas of Leclerc's performance. It's not just purely "is Leclerc fast", but about how consistently he can maintain that performance and how well he copes with changeable conditions. In the past, his...

1. Verstappen
2. Perez
3. Sainz
4. Hamilton
5. Alonso
6. Leclerc
7. Norris
8. Piastri
9. Russell
10. Albon

PP: Verstappen
FL: Verstappen
First Retirement: Bottas
ROTR: Alfa Romeo
IIDOTR: Alonso
DBTMOTR: Sargeant
LP: Zhou
FtP: Piastri

Can anyone with a good memory recall when Leclerc was the new big thing? It hasn't worked out has it. Broken floor. He’s still plenty fast I think that maybe the question is asking about other areas of Leclerc's performance. It's not just purely "is Leclerc fast", but about how consistent...

I might go for one thing that is outside of the usual remit, which is the celebrations by Red Bull's mechanics. Before the race, the circuit owners apparently went to quite a bit of effort to tell fans that flares had been banned from the circuit, with Imre van Leeuwen, the director of the race, put...

Having occasionally dabbled in this thread, I was wondering if somebody can make any sense of what exactly is going on with Alex Palou and the mess that is his contract status? We had the initial lawsuit for Palou to stay at Ganassi, and now we've had Palou bail out of his deal with McLaren to stay ...

Best wishes to Ricciardo on a speedy recovery. Given that he's almost certainly going to miss more than one race, does this put paid to his chances of grabbing the Red Bull seat? I felt like it was unlikely to begin with, but this certainly doesn't help. Could this be a decent opportunity for Lawso...

Speaking of replacement drivers, it has been confirmed that Ricciardo is now out of the Dutch GP after fracturing a bone in his hand in his FP2 crash, with Liam Lawson being called up as his replacement. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ricc ... /10511470/

I would say it's the "let's be honest, Max will win by miles" race, but it seems you can copy and paste that for pretty much every race this season now. Maybe it should instead be the "all hell will break loose if Max doesn't win" GP... 1. Verstappen 2. Alonso 3. Hamilton 4. Pere...

So here's a ponderance... With Robert Shwartzmann being reserve driver at Ferrari- supposing something happened to Leclerc or Sainz at a race weekend in say Qatar or Bahrain or Saudi Arabia,so he stepped up to take their race drive. If he was to get the car into the top 3 what flag would they fly a...

Anyway, that post however very much highlights the reason why moral discussions about the countries hosting F1 among fans are a joke. F1 fans use moral values mostly as an argument against tracks they don't like. Fair comment. I object strongly to the political leanings of Orban's Hungary and I don...

Wasn't his dad like a proper oligarch? I remember claims that both Uralaki and old man Mazepin himself were the target of sanctions. If that's true, I don't see how you can claim the kid has no involvement. Yes; both Nikita and his father Dmitry were placed on the EU sanctions list early in the res...

Did Haas specifically say that he would not be able to race because of his nationality? The Russian invasion took place in February 2022 and I'm certain he was replaced before then.I would have thought it would've been fairly straightforward for Haas to assert that his services were not being kept ...

Perez has another rival for that Red Bull seat it seems /s https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/1001032/nikita-mazepin-f1-return-eu-court-ruling-banned/ It would be great if anyone here is a lawyer and can translate the explanatory word-salad in the story. The greater concern is that Mazepin may now b...

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